Re: Query about request for new features
Le 23 novembre 2010, Bret Busby a écrit : I use iceape on this computer, as I generally run Debian 5, and I have installed Iceape and Iceweasel on this computer. Which versions? When Iceape crashes, which it does frequently, the session at the time of the crash is lost. SM 2.0 doesn't frequently crash (here, on linux), and the session isn't lost either. I have observed that Galeon, in running the next time from a crash, provides three options: 1. Restore last session (session which crashed) 2. Open new session and save last session as bookmarks (creates new bookmarks folder, wit bookmarks for all tabs and windows that were open when session crashed) 3. Open new session, deleting previous session My request is this; could Firefox and Seamonkey (thence to hopefully filter through to Iceweasel and Iceape, to be implemented therein), have the same provisions implemented? SM 2.0 offers 1 and 3. Also, would it be possible for Firefox and Seamonkey (thence to hopefully filter through to Iceweasel and Iceape, to be implemented therein), to include in the File menu (and thence to be fully implemented), an option, as Opera has; Save current session, so that the current session can be saved and closed in an orderly manner, as needed? Not really the same, but: - SM 2.0 offers to save session when you try and quit, if you have several windows/tabs opened. - You can set prefs so that your start page is the last page visited. HTH. -- LL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: My greatest fear for the new Seamonkey
Jens Hatlak wrote: Jeffrey Needle wrote: I just looked at the new Thunderbird, and they have this incredibly messy header box. Pressing Tab sends you to each element of the header box, and finally to the message body. No way I can see to just turn off the header box! Yuck!!! I really don't need all that crap. I'm hoping that, when Seamonkey updates, it doesn't adapt that same behavior. I don't know what will happen in the far future, but for the next SeaMonkey version, 2.1, you have nothing to fear there. HTH Jens Many thanks for this. I'm glad to be able to put that fear to the side. Thanks so much. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...
Rufus schrieb: I see one sessionstore.json, but not sessionrestore.json. That's the one. Contains info of all pages loaded in the last used session. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM restarts itself
Jay Garcia wrote: On 23.11.2010 09:43, Jordon wrote: --- Original Message --- Win2k. For the past month, whenever I close SM (2.0.10) it restarts itself. I've tried closing it using the X in the upper right. I've tried closing it using File/Exit. Last night after I closed it I noticed it was still running in the process list so I shut it down there. But this morning it's open again. Normally this wouldn't be that big a deal but there's another problem I have... In the email program I have all server settings marked to leave messages on the servers but they don't. I want my messages to show up on my phone but since they're being deleted off the servers they show up only occasionally. TIA When it restarts itself, is there a particular site/page that comes up? Just whatever was up when it was closed. Usually web based email on my local intranet and a radio station. The browser always restarts itself but the email program remains closed. The email program downloads messages even though it's closed. -- Jordon ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SOLVED! SM email not properly responding to FF mailto links
NoOp wrote: I'd recommend that you just install via your distro repository No, I wish to run the official Mozilla binaries, just like I do on Windows. I have the ability to run current versions of Mozilla products. were it not for the fact that the Ubuntu SeaMonkey maintainers can't seem to get their act together and still haven't backported the lucid fixes yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/575160 [seamonkey 2.0 crashes with 'RenderBadPicture' diagnostics] Why would you suggest all of that grief over simply using the official Mozilla binaries via UbuntuZilla?!!?!? -- Michael Lueck ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SOLVED! SM email not properly responding to FF mailto links
NoOp wrote: 2. What if your preferred email application were something other than SeaMonkey? You'd set your email preferences as above only use the path to that particular email client. Then what caused SeaMonkey to get added to the Gnome Preferred Applications list (with the wrong switches) in the first place? I had been using Thunderbird up until I installed SeaMonkey. Thunderbird was handling the mailto: links correctly. At that time, SeaMonkey was not in the list. After I instilled SeaMonkey, it was there, just the switches were incorrect. What ever adds SeaMonkey to the list of Gnome Preferred Applications, THAT needs to be updated to use the correct switches. I would think that something in the SeaMonkey installation process adds SeaMonkey to the Preferred Applications list. Thus why I started with a bug against SeaMonkey. Sincerely, -- Michael Lueck ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Considing the Aged and Vision Impaired
Jens Hatlak wrote: Beverly Howard wrote: imho, reporting bugs and/or reporting problems should be discoverable on the seamonkey site pointing to the link Seconded. KaiRo, how about adding a Reporting Bugs section on the SeaMonkey Community page with a link pointing to the Bug writing guidelines page on MDN? Better late than never: Filed and fixed bug Bug 614090 - Add a Reporting Bugs section to the Community page. Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey Faulty Page Rendering
Such a situation -- works with Firefox but not with SeaMonkey -- generally indicates that the Web server is doing invalid sniffing. For an explanation of sniffing and how to defeat it, see my http://www.rossde.com/internet/sniffing.html. -- David E. Ross I much appreciate your response, but the only thing is I'm not really a techie and can't make heads or tails how to tinker with computer programs, so is there any turn key fix to this or do you think it'll be corrected in the next SeaMonkey issue? Thanks! Jim ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...
Robert Kaiser wrote: Rufus schrieb: I see one sessionstore.json, but not sessionrestore.json. That's the one. Contains info of all pages loaded in the last used session. Robert Kaiser The file only persists while the session is in progress - if I quit the session, it disappears. Doesn't show if I toggle Show Hidden Files, so I'd think it's actually gone on closing the session. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: My greatest fear for the new Seamonkey
Jens Hatlak wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On 23/11/2010 02:39, Jens Hatlak wrote: Jeffrey Needle wrote: I just looked at the new Thunderbird, and they have this incredibly messy header box. Pressing Tab sends you to each element of the header box, and finally to the message body. No way I can see to just turn off the header box! Yuck!!! I really don't need all that crap. I'm hoping that, when Seamonkey updates, it doesn't adapt that same behavior. I don't know what will happen in the far future, but for the next SeaMonkey version, 2.1, you have nothing to fear there. You sure? Email addresses in the header pane are now tabbable. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=479579 Bug 479579 - Make all header fields tabbable, not just Subject and Date Well, I was referring to all the extra buttons TB now has in the header box. We won't have those, at least as far as SM 2.1 is concerned. I have to admit that I didn't check any further. You may be right about more of the existing elements being tabbable now. Greetings, Jens I suppose there is a Marginal desire for tabs in Browsing I have tabs turned off in FireFox and SeaMonkey. But using Tabs in email news reading is a totally dumbass idea. Thankfully I have that turned off in SeaMonkey now. There is simply no logic for it. who wants to try to read 8-10 messages at one time. I have enough trouble trying to read one at a time. If it becomes permanent I'll try to find an extension to turn them off. Sometimes doing something new just to be new is wrong. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net/ mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: My greatest fear for the new Seamonkey
Phillip Jones wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On 23/11/2010 02:39, Jens Hatlak wrote: Jeffrey Needle wrote: I just looked at the new Thunderbird, and they have this incredibly messy header box. Pressing Tab sends you to each element of the header box, and finally to the message body. No way I can see to just turn off the header box! Yuck!!! I really don't need all that crap. I'm hoping that, when Seamonkey updates, it doesn't adapt that same behavior. I don't know what will happen in the far future, but for the next SeaMonkey version, 2.1, you have nothing to fear there. You sure? Email addresses in the header pane are now tabbable. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=479579 Bug 479579 - Make all header fields tabbable, not just Subject and Date Well, I was referring to all the extra buttons TB now has in the header box. We won't have those, at least as far as SM 2.1 is concerned. I have to admit that I didn't check any further. You may be right about more of the existing elements being tabbable now. Greetings, Jens I suppose there is a Marginal desire for tabs in Browsing I have tabs turned off in FireFox and SeaMonkey. But using Tabs in email news reading is a totally dumbass idea. Thankfully I have that turned off in SeaMonkey now. There is simply no logic for it. who wants to try to read 8-10 messages at one time. I have enough trouble trying to read one at a time. If it becomes permanent I'll try to find an extension to turn them off. Sometimes doing something new just to be new is wrong. Tabs ROCK. I don't use tabs in Mail/News, but now that you mention it using one tab per server sounds like a better idea than how I have been doing it - and if I could use/specify one Account per tab and have just that Account/server show in the Sidebar that would be all the better, IMO... I love tabs...and so do a LOT of other folks. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Re: Query about request for new features
On Tue, 23 Nov 2010, Lucas Levrel wrote: Le 23 novembre 2010, Bret Busby a écrit : I use iceape on this computer, as I generally run Debian 5, and I have installed Iceape and Iceweasel on this computer. Which versions? ceape 1.0.9 * Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.14eol) Gecko/20070505 Iceape/1.0.9 (Debian-1.0.13~pre080614i-0etch1) iceweasel version is 3.0.6-3 These are the latest versions available for Debian 5. When Iceape crashes, which it does frequently, the session at the time of the crash is lost. SM 2.0 doesn't frequently crash (here, on linux), and the session isn't lost either. I have observed that Galeon, in running the next time from a crash, provides three options: 1. Restore last session (session which crashed) 2. Open new session and save last session as bookmarks (creates new bookmarks folder, wit bookmarks for all tabs and windows that were open when session crashed) 3. Open new session, deleting previous session My request is this; could Firefox and Seamonkey (thence to hopefully filter through to Iceweasel and Iceape, to be implemented therein), have the same provisions implemented? SM 2.0 offers 1 and 3. Also, would it be possible for Firefox and Seamonkey (thence to hopefully filter through to Iceweasel and Iceape, to be implemented therein), to include in the File menu (and thence to be fully implemented), an option, as Opera has; Save current session, so that the current session can be saved and closed in an orderly manner, as needed? Not really the same, but: - SM 2.0 offers to save session when you try and quit, if you have several windows/tabs opened. - You can set prefs so that your start page is the last page visited. HTH. -- LL In the circumstances, what is the possibility of Seamonkey being offered as a .deb package? I have had massive trouble, in the past, trying to install anything that is not in the form of a .deb package, and so only install software that is in that form. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means. - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts, written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SOLVED! SM email not properly responding to FF mailto links
On 11/23/2010 11:56 AM, Michael Lueck wrote: NoOp wrote: 2. What if your preferred email application were something other than SeaMonkey? You'd set your email preferences as above only use the path to that particular email client. Then what caused SeaMonkey to get added to the Gnome Preferred Applications list (with the wrong switches) in the first place? Not sure, but perhaps you can ask on: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=251 I had been using Thunderbird up until I installed SeaMonkey. Thunderbird was handling the mailto: links correctly. And did you also install via Ubuntuzilla? If so, what was the switch? At that time, SeaMonkey was not in the list. After I instilled SeaMonkey, it was there, just the switches were incorrect. What ever adds SeaMonkey to the list of Gnome Preferred Applications, THAT needs to be updated to use the correct switches. Possibly. I typically run SeaMonkey from a /home folder, so I've not run into this problem previously. I just use 'Custom' and insert the path -compose %s or simply %s (the latter works just fine). However I do note that the SeaMonkey2 build from Joe also includes the '-mail' switch, so I'll ask him. The there *is* something in the build configurations that sets this as '-mail' default, then *perhaps* there is an issue. Unfortunately it would/will be most hard to debug as you'd have to query all those that built .deb packages from source. If you look at the link I previously referenced, you'll find that the '-mail' switch is proper for opening the mail client. The issue is pehaps that the '-mail' command does not recognise/honor the %s (see the GNOME desktop reference guide/docs for this). Again, that wouldn't be a SeaMonkey issue as the reference clearly states: -mail mailto_URL Start the Compose Message window for the given mailto_URL Thunderbird only. thunderbird -mail mailto:m...@isp.net?subject=hi As you can see, that (possibly) only works in Thunderbird. For SeaMonkey you'd need to use: ./seamonkey -compose mailto:m...@isp.net?subject=hi and that works just fine. Have a look at: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client http://kb.mozillazine.org/Default_mail_client#Linux_-_Gnome for methods to configure your desktop. Change your System|Preferences|Preferred Applications|Mail Reader|Custom| to include the path to SeaMonkey (if installed in a /home folder) or simply: 'seamonkey %s' or 'seamonkey -compose %s' if you've installed to the system (via Ubuntuzilla or otherwise). If you do not require SeaMonkey to be available for all users on your system I *highly* recommend just installing to a /home folder and running from there. You'll find that doing so is considerably easier safer. I would think that something in the SeaMonkey installation process adds SeaMonkey to the Preferred Applications list. Thus why I started with a bug against SeaMonkey. Perhaps. But again you'd need to check with whoever built the .deb packages to be certain. Is it a SeaMonkey bug, or is it a problem with how the package was built? Regarding your other post: were it not for the fact that the Ubuntu SeaMonkey maintainers can't seem to get their act together and still haven't backported the lucid fixes yet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/575160 [seamonkey 2.0 crashes with 'RenderBadPicture' diagnostics] Why would you suggest all of that grief over simply using the official Mozilla binaries via UbuntuZilla?!!?!? You obviously missed (and cut): I'd recommend that you just install via your distro repository were it not for the fact that the Ubuntu SeaMonkey maintainers can't seem to get their act together and still haven't backported the lucid fixes yet: I *don't* recommend that you install your distro version for the very reasons mentioned in: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/seamonkey/+bug/575160 I do however recommend that you use Joe's PPA (or install directly to a /home folder) rather than Ubuntuzilla. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
