Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-24 Thread Philip Chee
On 24/05/2011 13:36, Ant wrote:
 On 5/23/2011 4:44 PM PT, NoOp typed:
 Interesting. about:memory didn't work in Windows' SeaMonkey v2.0.14

 As the subject and NoOp's paths suggest, this only works with SM 2.1 and
 later.

 Correct.
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/
 What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1
 Loading the URL about:memory now shows how much memory is used by
 different parts of SeaMonkey.

 Now if we can figure out why memstat  about:memory have such
 considerable differences I'd be happier. :-)
 
 I wonder if Windows and Mac OS X ports have different results too. If 
 so, then is there a bug report about this? ;)

Perhaps it's already fixed in Firefox 6.0a/SeaMonkey 2.future?

See:
http://blog.mozilla.com/nnethercote/2011/05/23/a-better-aboutmemory-stage-1-75/

Phil

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Re: e'mail adresses getting munged...

2011-05-24 Thread Ray_Net

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Mon, 23 May 2011 23:28:02 +0200, /Ray_Net/:


So the correct auto-fill must be contactname@hotmail.com  and
not contactname@hotmail.com 
:-)


I think the best would be to automatically trim trailing spaces as no
quoted form exists for and no spaces are allowed in the domain part. :-)


This is what an intelligent mail client program do :-)
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Recovery from lost mail and newsgroup accounts question

2011-05-24 Thread Dick Hoffman
We are running SM 2.0.14 on a Windows XP-SP3 system. My wife rather 
casually advised my this morning that all our mail accounts were gone. 
When I tried to start SM Mail, I got the New Account Setup Wizard panel 
rather than the normal display of all our mail and newsgroup accounts. I 
tried using Mozbackup to save a copy of the profile but it said the 
profile was corrupted. So I manually copied the profile to a new folder 
and then restored the profile from a copy made a few days ago during our 
normal backup run. I started SM Mail and all our accounts were back. 
Some emails since the backup were, of course, lost but we can retrieve 
them if we need to. I have no idea what corrupted the profile. Since 2.1 
is coming out next week I don't think I'll try to file a Bugzilla 
report. My question is was the action I took the best way to recover 
from the problem or was there some other, maybe simpler, action I should 
have taken?

Dick
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SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread Keith Whaley

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About 
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.


Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley
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access Mozilla SeaMonkey aite

2011-05-24 Thread Keith Whaley
For some reason, I cannot access the seamonkey site, by way of the 
throbber, nor can I by Google, typing in www.mozilla.seamonkey - or any 
other permutations of the above.


Can anyone help me? I want to download a version of SM.

The one I now have is misnamed. (Long story).
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Re: access Mozilla SeaMonkey aite

2011-05-24 Thread Hana Skoumalova

Keith Whaley wrote:

For some reason, I cannot access the seamonkey site, by way of the
throbber, nor can I by Google, typing in www.mozilla.seamonkey - or any
other permutations of the above.

Can anyone help me? I want to download a version of SM.

The one I now have is misnamed. (Long story).


http://www.seamonkey-project.org/

H.
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Re: access Mozilla SeaMonkey aite

2011-05-24 Thread S. Beaulieu

Keith Whaley a écrit :

For some reason, I cannot access the seamonkey site, by way of the
throbber, nor can I by Google, typing in www.mozilla.seamonkey - or any
other permutations of the above.


www.seamonkey-project.org

S.
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 Memory - was Re: Does Mozilla's SeaMonkey use any video acceleration features like Flash v10 and Firefox v4?

2011-05-24 Thread NoOp
On 05/24/2011 02:33 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
 On 24/05/2011 13:36, Ant wrote:
 On 5/23/2011 4:44 PM PT, NoOp typed:
 Interesting. about:memory didn't work in Windows' SeaMonkey v2.0.14

 As the subject and NoOp's paths suggest, this only works with SM 2.1 and
 later.

 Correct.
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.1/
 What's New in SeaMonkey 2.1
 Loading the URL about:memory now shows how much memory is used by
 different parts of SeaMonkey.

 Now if we can figure out why memstat  about:memory have such
 considerable differences I'd be happier. :-)
 
 I wonder if Windows and Mac OS X ports have different results too. If 
 so, then is there a bug report about this? ;)
 
 Perhaps it's already fixed in Firefox 6.0a/SeaMonkey 2.future?
 
 See:
 http://blog.mozilla.com/nnethercote/2011/05/23/a-better-aboutmemory-stage-1-75/
 
 Phil
 

Thanks for that.

Sorted:
$ memstat -w | grep seamonkey   
 795784k PID . (/seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/seamonkey-bin)  
  48908k PID . (/seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/plugin-container)   
  25780k(  22868k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libxul.so . . . .  
   6268k(  0k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/omni.jar . 
   3892k(  0k)   /.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/XUL.mfasl . 
   1224k(  0k)  
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/startupCache/startupCache.4.little . 
868k(836k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnss3.so . . . . 
540k(  0k)  
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{8A6C82A1-F6C9-481a-AAE7-C96444C9A754}/chrome/prefbar.jar
.   
536k(520k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libmozsqlite3.so . . . .   
456k(  0k)  
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{d10d0bf8-f5b5-c8b4-a8b2-2b9879e08c5d}.xpi
.   
352k(300k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnssckbi.so .
344k(  0k)  
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{59c81df5-4b7a-477b-912d-4e0fdf64e5f2}.xpi

308k(300k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libfreebl3.so . . . .  
240k(  0k)  
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/sqlitemana...@mrinalkant.blogspot.com.xpi
.   
228k(192k)  
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}/components/libcalbasecomps.so
.   
200k(192k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnspr4.so . . . .
200k(184k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libldap60.so . . . .   
188k(180k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libsoftokn3.so . . . . 
172k(156k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libssl3.so . . . . 
128k(112k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libsmime3.so . . . .   
124k(116k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnssdbm3.so . . . .  
116k(100k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libsuite.so .   
100k(  0k)  
/.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/extensions/{3ed8cc52-86fc-4613-9026-c1ef969da4c3}/chrome/mboximport.jar
.   
 92k( 68k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libnssutil3.so . . . . 
 88k( 80k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libnkgnomevfs.so .  
 88k( 80k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libmozgnome.so .
 76k( 72k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/components/libdbusservice.so . 
 48k( 44k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/plugin-container . 
 48k( 44k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/seamonkey-bin .
 32k( 32k)   /.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/cookies.sqlite-shm 
.
 32k( 32k)   /.mozilla/seamonkey/user.default/places.sqlite-shm . 
 24k( 16k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libprldap60.so . . . . 
 20k( 12k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libplc4.so . . . . 
 20k( 12k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libxpcom.so . . . .
 16k(  8k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libldif60.so . . . .   
 16k(  8k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libplds4.so . . . .
 12k(  4k)   /seamonkey2.1/seamonkey/libmozalloc.so . . . . 

plugin-container (expected) and libxul.so (not expected) seem to take up
the largest chunks of memory. I say plugin-container is expected as that
is the backup/crash etc., area and is expected to grow/shrink  can
actually be limited in about:config.
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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
 I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
 I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.
 
 But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About 
 SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.
 
 Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?
 
 keith whaley

You posted using SM 2.0.14.

I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info.  Are those Mac features?

In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be replaced
by SM 2.1.

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On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages
posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent
because of spam from that source.
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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread Keith Whaley

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley



You posted using SM 2.0.14.



Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.


I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info.  Are those Mac features?


Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it, 
and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About 
SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.



In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be replaced
by SM 2.1.


Not bloody likely, as with MY setup, that version breaks Widgets. I 
really don't like that.
Why do you guys keep insisting I move up to a version that is less 
perfect than the version that preceded it?
2.0.14 IS less than problem free. Especially in areas of what I use 
frequently. No thanks.


keith


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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread David E. Ross
On 5/24/11 4:12 PM, Keith Whaley wrote [in part]:
 I previously wrote [also in part]:
 On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:
 I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
 I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

 But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
 SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

 Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

 keith whaley
 
 You posted using SM 2.0.14.
 
 
 Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.
 
 I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info.  Are those Mac features?
 
 Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
 Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
 One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it, 
 and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About 
 SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.
 

Aha.  Finder/File/Get Info is a Mac feature similar to the Properties
feature of Windows.  I select a file, right-click, and select Properties
from the pull-down context menu.  Among the properties displayed for
executable files is the version.

In general, I would trust what you see from Finder/File/Get Info more
than what you see from selecting [Help  About SeaMonkey] on the
SeaMonkey menu bar.  That is because it is very easy to spoof a
different version.

However, I recall at least one instance of a new version of Mozilla
Suite or SeaMonkey that was released to end users when the developers
forgot to change the version number seen by Mac's Finder/File/Get Info
and Windows' Properties.  But I might be mistaken about that.

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Re: SM Get Info discrepancy

2011-05-24 Thread Rufus

Keith Whaley wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 5/23/11 7:20 PM, Keith Whaley wrote:

I have what I thought was SM 1.1.13 in my applications folder.
I select Get Info from the Finder, and it says it's v.1.1.13.

But, if I double click on it and open it, and I choose SeaMonkey/About
SeaMonkey, the revision says it's 1.1.14.

Why is this? Has anyone else run across that?

keith whaley



You posted using SM 2.0.14.



Yes, I did. I didn't have a choice.


I don't know what you mean by Finder or Get Info. Are those Mac features?


Yessir. What else from a Mac guy? That means you're probably a PC guy.
Macs have a couple ways to determine what release version an app is.
One is Finder/File/Get Info. The other is to select the app to open it,
and when it opens choose the menu bar's About Firefox or About
SeaMonkey and you'll get the release info.


In any case, you should update to SM 2.0.14, which will soon be replaced
by SM 2.1.


Not bloody likely, as with MY setup, that version breaks Widgets. I
really don't like that.
Why do you guys keep insisting I move up to a version that is less
perfect than the version that preceded it?
2.0.14 IS less than problem free. Especially in areas of what I use
frequently. No thanks.

keith




That will/would be a deal breaker for me as well - I live on Widgets. 
If 2.0.14 is the end of days, then I guess I'll just have to live that 
way or start using Safari/Thunderbird in combination.


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