Re: Region Blocking?
On Fri, 27 May 2011 23:55:47 -0400, in message mailman.1288.1306555164.9060.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org d...@kd4e.com wrote: The Internet is usually thought of as without boundaries, except where renegade thuggish nations manipulate their captive populations by manipulating information. So, I have been surprised from time to time when I am on a site in Europe or elsewhere and get an error saying that some resource is not available in my region. Is there a way to make a Web browser region-neutral? Are these sites looking at the IP address or something in the browser identification? The sites are looking at your IP address. It is not your browser identification. Take your laptop and browser, and fly around the world from country to country. You will see it varies with where you are. I'm just curious, I don't want to do anything illegal, but if there is a legal way it would be nice. I don't have an example other than the BBC in UK did this when I went to look at a Doctor Who show - I am guessing that is a contract-thing where other regiond get delayed viewing. I get that - but it is what reminded me of this anomaly. That might explain it. In the past it has been a document related to the operation or repair of an old radio or piece of test gear - not likely a matter of modern video licensing. They may be publishing a copyrighted document under licence, and someone else has the publishing rights in other countries. The same can also happen with trade marks. -- Kind regards Ralph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto complete for form filling
Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: SeaMonkey Version 1.x.x did have an auto-fill function, but the re-write of the program for Version 2.x.x dis-abled this ability, but there were/are extensions that sort of did it. I think the soon-to-be-released Version 2.1 might have this form-filling function re-installed as part of it's Data Manager function. No, but the add-on that worked for SM 2.0 should also work for 2.1. HTH Jens So, Jens, what is meant by (from the page I linked to previously):- The new Data Manager now unifies cookie, permission, password, and form data management. particularly the last three words?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto complete for form filling
Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: SeaMonkey Version 1.x.x did have an auto-fill function, but the re-write of the program for Version 2.x.x dis-abled this ability, but there were/are extensions that sort of did it. I think the soon-to-be-released Version 2.1 might have this form-filling function re-installed as part of it's Data Manager function. No, but the add-on that worked for SM 2.0 should also work for 2.1. So, Jens, what is meant by (from the page I linked to previously):- The new Data Manager now unifies cookie, permission, password, and form data management. particularly the last three words?? It means that SM 2.1 includes the new Data Manager which allows you to, among other things, list and individually remove form field values that are used for form field auto-completion. This data is shown under the * pseudo-domain. In this way it offers a subset of the functionality of the Form History Control add-on, or differently put, a means of managing the form data available since SM 2.0. What it does not offer/include is the functionality provided by SM 1.x, i.e. a per-site, configurable form manager with the ability to fill whole forms. That is still only available using add-ons such as Autofill Forms. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Region Blocking?
So, other than some thuggish regime blocking free political speech the only reason an IP would be blocked by region would be to protect a copyright? COuld a poorly designed and/or implemented spam filter cause this as well? I have seen lists of countries that may be blocked in filters - based on a presumption of unusually high rates of spam - I think they were in filters designed for children where the children would be unlikely to have any need for access to those countries. Ralph Fox wrote: The sites are looking at your IP address. It is not your browser identification. Take your laptop and browser, and fly around the world from country to country. You will see it varies with where you are. They may be publishing a copyrighted document under licence, and someone else has the publishing rights in other countries. The same can also happen with trade marks. -- Thanks! 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! STARTPAGE.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.com/of.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Region Blocking?
Interviewed by CNN on 28/05/2011 00:55, d...@kd4e.com told the world: The Internet is usually thought of as without boundaries, except where renegade thuggish nations manipulate their captive populations by manipulating information. So, I have been surprised from time to time when I am on a site in Europe or elsewhere and get an error saying that some resource is not available in my region. If you are going to fling epithets liberally, I might point out that some sites in the United States also deny content to foreigners. Hulu.com being a prime example. Again, licensing is probably the cause: Hulu has licenses to exhibit the material in the U.S., but not abroad. Copyright may be also a problem, because different countries used to have different copyright laws (nowadays they are very similar, following the Berne Convention). Particularly, the U.S. used to have a 28 years from register, renewable once system, while Berne convention countries had a till 60 years after author's death, no registration needed system. So, something could have an expired copyright in one country, but be still under copyright abroad. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my NeXT Cube. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.14 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: prefetch web pages
On 5/27/11 3:32 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: On 27.05.2011 10:08, Rick Merrill wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 19.05.2011 18:03, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: On 19.05.2011 15:56, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: --- Original Message --- Jay Garcia wrote: Since a prefetched page(s) is/are put to cache, I don't know if there is any indication that those pages are the ones prefetched. And .. I think that this prefetch function is only workable as intended with a slow dialup type connection. My main website with over 800 pages is quickly accessed to any page from any page quite quickly. I don't really think I could tell the difference with/without prefetch. I like to watch videos online, and even with a broadband connection (about 25 MB/min or 1500 kBps), they can sometimes take awhile to load (probably due to slow/busy servers). For example, if my 36-minute program is broken into three 12-minute chunks, I routinely open three tabs, and launch all three chunks, then quickly pause the second and third ones, allowing them to load without playing. I view the first one, and by the time I'm done, the second is ready to go. Automatic prefetching could come in handy here, especially since the website links the second and third chunks to the first and I have bandwidth to burn. Prefetch does nothing the first time you access the videos. And I don't think that's the purpose of prefetching anyway. Prefetch as I understand it is for pages with multiple links referencing other pages on the same site, ... which is exactly the case I'm describing. The page that embeds part 1 of the vid has a link to part 2, and I could watch all of part 1 and then click the link, or else I could right-click the link and say open in new tab. The second option is the one I choose -- I'm doing manual prefetching, so that when I'm finished with part 1, part 2 is loaded and ready to go. Some of the sites I visit even recommend this buffering technique to avoid choppiness when a server can't keep up. e.g., the prefetch link in the header of the index page would reflectlink rel=prefetch ... ... and that's the answer to the OP's question: look in the source code forlink rel=prefetch If it has such a link, it's set up for prefetching; if not, it's not. Has anyone seen or written such source code? This is the most logical response, and it presumably creates the desired result of making the remainder of the site faster to access. You're not actually prefetching by definition, No. Getting data before it is needed IS prefetching. e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch just loading in another tab but accomplishing 'basically' the same thing. No. it is not another tab. e.g. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/prefetch In order to fetch something it has to be retrieved from somewhere in the local system. Prefetching in Windows fetches it's data from /Windows/prefetch. Firefox, SeaMonkey, etc. fetches it's data from cache. And that is the basis of my point simply because if you cache web sites, etc. it's the same as prefetching it when it's retrieved. I can't think offhand of prefetching any faster than from cache - memory or from disk. Prefetching occurs in the background while you are viewing a prior page. The prefectched data goes into your cache as if you had previously visited the fetched page. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Region Blocking?
Thanks for the info. No epithets are being flung liberally. Blocking for legitimate copyright protection makes good business sense and is not anti-freedom. Blocking citizen access to news, in order to cover-up corruption and repression by a tyrannical regime, is an entirely different matter. Would you not agree? MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 28/05/2011 00:55, d...@kd4e.com told the world: The Internet is usually thought of as without boundaries, except where renegade thuggish nations manipulate their captive populations by manipulating information. So, I have been surprised from time to time when I am on a site in Europe or elsewhere and get an error saying that some resource is not available in my region. If you are going to fling epithets liberally, I might point out that some sites in the United States also deny content to foreigners. Hulu.com being a prime example. Again, licensing is probably the cause: Hulu has licenses to exhibit the material in the U.S., but not abroad. Copyright may be also a problem, because different countries used to have different copyright laws (nowadays they are very similar, following the Berne Convention). Particularly, the U.S. used to have a 28 years from register, renewable once system, while Berne convention countries had a till 60 years after author's death, no registration needed system. So, something could have an expired copyright in one country, but be still under copyright abroad. -- Thanks! 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! STARTPAGE.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.com/of.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: prefetch web pages
David E. Ross wrote: On 5/27/11 3:32 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: On 27.05.2011 10:08, Rick Merrill wrote: ... Prefetching occurs in the background while you are viewing a prior page. The prefectched data goes into your cache as if you had previously visited the fetched page. Let's say the prefetch to cache has begun and you navigate away from the site (which has tons of links within itself). Does the prefetch know to stop? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Clicking on Share button in YouTube videos go to blank web page and get stuck in reading ssl.gstatic.com server.
Hello. I noticed this started a few days ago when logged into YouTube.com and trying to share its videos to gets its embedded videos. It seems like it doesn't detect SeaMonkey v2.0.14 correctly since using Firefox v3.6.8 user agent (and even changing back to real one from SM2 until I exit SM2) had no problems. Is anyone else noticing this too? Thank you in advance. :) -- Even the sharpest ear cannot hear an ant singing. --Sudanese /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: prefetch web pages
On 5/28/11 8:36 AM, Rick Merrill wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 5/27/11 3:32 PM, Jay Garcia wrote: On 27.05.2011 10:08, Rick Merrill wrote: ... Prefetching occurs in the background while you are viewing a prior page. The prefectched data goes into your cache as if you had previously visited the fetched page. Let's say the prefetch to cache has begun and you navigate away from the site (which has tons of links within itself). Does the prefetch know to stop? According to the Mozilla documentation I have read, as soon as a user selects a link to a page that is NOT being prefetched, all prefecting stops. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Setup: Seamonkey 2.0.14 Linux Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 This page was working fine then suddenly stopped: http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;q=Statesboro,+Georgia,+United+States I made no changes here since yesterday. Might Mozilla/Seamonkey have changed something that I didn't notice that could have created a problem? On another PC it works fine with Seamonkey 2.0.13 and with Midori. Failing here with 2.0.14 (WinSP3 Flash 10.3.181.4). But, also failing with Explorer 8. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Setup: Seamonkey 2.0.14 Linux Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 This page was working fine then suddenly stopped: http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;q=Statesboro,+Georgia,+United+States I made no changes here since yesterday. Might Mozilla/Seamonkey have changed something that I didn't notice that could have created a problem? On another PC it works fine with Seamonkey 2.0.13 and with Midori. I'm using SM 2.0.14 on a Mac, and it works for me - I even entered another zip code and it moved there accordingly. Looking here, it does appear your Flash Player is out of date, though... http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
J. Weaver Jr. wrote: d...@kd4e.com wrote: Setup: Seamonkey 2.0.14 Linux Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 This page was working fine then suddenly stopped: http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;q=Statesboro,+Georgia,+United+States I made no changes here since yesterday. Might Mozilla/Seamonkey have changed something that I didn't notice that could have created a problem? On another PC it works fine with Seamonkey 2.0.13 and with Midori. Failing here with 2.0.14 (WinSP3 Flash 10.3.181.4). But, also failing with Explorer 8. -JW Works for me bot in your town and in my ton. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
On 5/28/11 12:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/28/11 10:04 AM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: Setup: Seamonkey 2.0.14 Linux Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 This page was working fine then suddenly stopped: http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;q=Statesboro,+Georgia,+United+States I made no changes here since yesterday. Might Mozilla/Seamonkey have changed something that I didn't notice that could have created a problem? On another PC it works fine with Seamonkey 2.0.13 and with Midori. It's most likely that the page changed and is now broken. The request for Flash 10.+ is a clue since I already have Flash 10.3 r181 (10.3.181.14). I tired spoofing Firefox 4.0 and IE 7. I still could not get it to work. I did get the progress bar to advance from start to finish. I also tried IE 7 itself (not merely spoofing). The page recognized my area but otherwise did not work. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
PhillipJones wrote: J. Weaver Jr. wrote: d...@kd4e.com wrote: Setup: Seamonkey 2.0.14 Linux Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 This page was working fine then suddenly stopped: http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;q=Statesboro,+Georgia,+United+States I made no changes here since yesterday. Might Mozilla/Seamonkey have changed something that I didn't notice that could have created a problem? On another PC it works fine with Seamonkey 2.0.13 and with Midori. Failing here with 2.0.14 (WinSP3 Flash 10.3.181.4). But, also failing with Explorer 8. -JW Works for me bot in your town and in my ton. Works for me as well,Flash 10.3.181.4 and SM 2.0.14-works for my town or any in US -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Setup: Seamonkey 2.0.14 Linux Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 This page was working fine then suddenly stopped: http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;q=Statesboro,+Georgia,+United+States I made no changes here since yesterday. Might Mozilla/Seamonkey have changed something that I didn't notice that could have created a problem? On another PC it works fine with Seamonkey 2.0.13 and with Midori. Thanks for the really neat link! Works great in SM 1119. Flash You have version 10,0,32,18 installed Works great in IE 8 Flash You have version 10,0,45,2 installed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
d...@kd4e.com wrote: Setup: Seamonkey 2.0.14 Linux Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 This page was working fine then suddenly stopped: http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;q=Statesboro,+Georgia,+United+States I made no changes here since yesterday. Might Mozilla/Seamonkey have changed something that I didn't notice that could have created a problem? On another PC it works fine with Seamonkey 2.0.13 and with Midori. On my PC with SM 2.0.14 on WinXP Pro SP3 and Shockwave Flash 10.3 r181, it works fine. It's a great page, I think I'll bookmark it, thanks! -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
So, it appears that it does not like all versions Flash 10.x They must have a coding error ... I am glad that several list members found the resource to be of value - an Amateur Radio friend told me about it. -- Thanks! 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! STARTPAGE.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.com/of.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Region Blocking?
doc@ kd4e.com wrote: I have been surprised from time to time when I am on a site in Europe or elsewhere and get an error saying that some resource is not available in my region. http://google.com/search?tbs=dfn:1q=proxy-server MCBastos wrote: [...]the U.S. used to have a 28 years from register, renewable once system *Originally*, it was 14 years with a near-automatic 14-year renewal. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copyright_Act_of_1790 That works out to about 1 generation, which probably seemed about right 2+ centuries ago. (I think the trend in lengths has gone in the wrong direction.) I note also that you could NOT get a renewal if you were dead. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On 26/05/11 11:30, Philip Chee wrote: Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar. ...or via the Events and Tasks menu which it adds on the menubar. Phil (also posted to Mozillazine http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=2210021) Best regards, Tony. -- hundred-and-one symptoms of being an internet addict: 99. The hum of a cooling fan and the click of keys is comforting to you. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
