Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
NoOp wrote: On 05/28/2011 10:04 AM, d...@kd4e.com wrote: Setup: Seamonkey 2.0.14 Linux Shockwave Flash 10.2 d151 This page was working fine then suddenly stopped: http://weatherspark.com/#!graphs;q=Statesboro,+Georgia,+United+States I made no changes here since yesterday. Might Mozilla/Seamonkey have changed something that I didn't notice that could have created a problem? On another PC it works fine with Seamonkey 2.0.13 and with Midori. WFM: File: /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so Version: Shockwave Flash 10.3 r181 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 WFM. Shockwave Flash 10.3 d162 (64bit Square) Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0a1) Gecko/20110528 Firefox/7.0a1 SeaMonkey/2.2a1pre ID:20110528003006 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Auto complete for form filling
Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: Daniel wrote: SeaMonkey Version 1.x.x did have an auto-fill function, but the re-write of the program for Version 2.x.x dis-abled this ability, but there were/are extensions that sort of did it. I think the soon-to-be-released Version 2.1 might have this form-filling function re-installed as part of it's Data Manager function. No, but the add-on that worked for SM 2.0 should also work for 2.1. So, Jens, what is meant by (from the page I linked to previously):- The new Data Manager now unifies cookie, permission, password, and form data management. particularly the last three words?? It means that SM 2.1 includes the new Data Manager which allows you to, among other things, list and individually remove form field values that are used for form field auto-completion. This data is shown under the * pseudo-domain. In this way it offers a subset of the functionality of the Form History Control add-on, or differently put, a means of managing the form data available since SM 2.0. What it does not offer/include is the functionality provided by SM 1.x, i.e. a per-site, configurable form manager with the ability to fill whole forms. That is still only available using add-ons such as Autofill Forms. HTH Jens so, to put it another way, the Data manager manages data, but doesn't actually enter it on to forms! Sound like a real advancement to me, unless, sometime in the future, the form-filling function will be added!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Can't view images
Monica wrote: Suddenly I can't view graphics (images) in emails and on some websites. What could have gone wrong? I'll appreciate any help in this matter! Monica Monica, I cannot help with your email situation, but if you were only having problems with some images, I would be looking at Edit-Preferences-Privacy Security-Images and make sure you have the right Policy selected. HTH -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
It is working again here, so either they were in maintenance-mode or they fixed their code. -- Thanks! 73, KD4E David Colburn http://kd4e.com Have an http://ultrafidian.com day I don't google I SEARCH! STARTPAGE.com Shop Freedom-Friendly http://kd4e.com/of.html ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14
Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14 Although one is also speaking of Linux IO believe... Might have something to do with the fact that that whole site is still in Beta test, although just to note, it was or is seemingly working properly with Windows XP, Win 7 32/64bit, MS IE, Firefox 4.01 and Chrome 10.x So far, that is. Joe ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Yahoo email upgrade - possible problem with SeaMonkey?
I received this message from Yahoo! == Yahoo! Mail is upgrading: What it means for you. Thank you for being a Yahoo! Mail user for the past 10 year(s). We look forward to bringing you an even faster, safer, easier-to-use Yahoo! Mail very soon. In the coming months, we will ask you to upgrade to the newest version of Yahoo! You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer. If you do not have one of these browsers, you must first update your browser (it’s fast and free), and then return to this email and click the Upgrade Now button. If you don’t upgrade now, we recommend that you upgrade soon. Your current version of Yahoo! Mail will be available for the next few months, but eventually you will need to upgrade to the newest version of Yahoo! Mail. I know SeaMonkey is based on Firefox, but I've encountered some websites which work with Firefox but don't recognize SeaMonkey as a valid browser. If this Yahoo email upgrade doesn't work with SeaMonkey, I will not be a happy camper. I hope someone in the SeaMonkey development team is talking with Yahoo to make sure this doesn't become a problem. Thanks! John ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Yahoo email upgrade - possible problem with SeaMonkey?
John wrote: I received this message from Yahoo! == Yahoo! Mail is upgrading: What it means for you. Thank you for being a Yahoo! Mail user for the past 10 year(s). We look forward to bringing you an even faster, safer, easier-to-use Yahoo! Mail very soon. In the coming months, we will ask you to upgrade to the newest version of Yahoo! You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer. If you do not have one of these browsers, you must first update your browser (it’s fast and free), and then return to this email and click the Upgrade Now button. If you don’t upgrade now, we recommend that you upgrade soon. Your current version of Yahoo! Mail will be available for the next few months, but eventually you will need to upgrade to the newest version of Yahoo! Mail. I know SeaMonkey is based on Firefox, but I've encountered some websites which work with Firefox but don't recognize SeaMonkey as a valid browser. If this Yahoo email upgrade doesn't work with SeaMonkey, I will not be a happy camper. I hope someone in the SeaMonkey development team is talking with Yahoo to make sure this doesn't become a problem. Thanks! John The new Yahoo Mail Beta stopped working for me on SeaMonkey 2.1 RC1 (seems there is a problem with my UA, which I can't seem to correct). If you click on Help on the top of the upgrade your browser page and select Feedback, you can inform Yahoo that it is not your browser that doesn't support Yahoo! Mail Beta, but Yahoo! Mail Beta that does not support your browser which is SeaMonkey 2.0.13. I also included these 2 URL's in my feedback. http://geckoisgecko.org/ https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Browser_Detection_and_Cross_Browser_Support That is what I did, but I don't really expect it to be fixed by Yahoo. The next version of SeaMonkey should work. It did for me until I upgraded to the release candidate. WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Yahoo email upgrade - possible problem with SeaMonkey?
John wrote: I received this message from Yahoo! == Yahoo! Mail is upgrading: What it means for you. Thank you for being a Yahoo! Mail user for the past 10 year(s). We look forward to bringing you an even faster, safer, easier-to-use Yahoo! Mail very soon. In the coming months, we will ask you to upgrade to the newest version of Yahoo! You can upgrade now to the newest Yahoo! Mail if your browser is Internet Explorer 7, Firefox 3, Safari 4, or Chrome 5 or newer. If you do not have one of these browsers, you must first update your browser (it’s fast and free), and then return to this email and click the Upgrade Now button. If you don’t upgrade now, we recommend that you upgrade soon. Your current version of Yahoo! Mail will be available for the next few months, but eventually you will need to upgrade to the newest version of Yahoo! Mail. I know SeaMonkey is based on Firefox, but I've encountered some websites which work with Firefox but don't recognize SeaMonkey as a valid browser. If this Yahoo email upgrade doesn't work with SeaMonkey, I will not be a happy camper. I hope someone in the SeaMonkey development team is talking with Yahoo to make sure this doesn't become a problem. Thanks! John I sometimes use (att) Yahoo web mail instead of pop.att.Yahoo and have NEVER installed anything from Yahoo, and won't. It works just fine with: SeaMonkey 1.1.19 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.24) Gecko/20100228 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/1.1.19 Firefox/2.0.0.24 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Philip Chee wrote: Hi! SeaMonkey 2.1 is almost out of the gate. We need to make sure that the Lightning version targetting SM 2.1 works well with it. So I need volunteers to smoke test Lightning 1.04b on SeaMonkey 2.1 Lightning 1.0b4pre builds are here: https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/nightly/latest-comm-miramar/ SeaMonkey 2.1pre builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-2.0/ Lightning will integrate into the MailNews window and you can open new Calendar and Task tabs via the mini buttons in the tabbar. Phil (also posted to Mozillazine http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=6t=2210021) Seems Lightning 1.0b4pre has broken my UA, preventing me from using Yahoo! Mail Beta. When Lightning is disabled Yahoo! Mail Beta loads normally. I suspected Lightning because I noticed my posts on the MozillaZine forums only showed Lightning 1.04bpre as my UA instead of the full build string. I just installed the latest nightly and the results are the same. Also created a test profile without Lightning and Yahoo! Mail Beta worked. Installed Lightning 1.0b4pre and Yahoo! Mail Beta was disabled again. Just to be sure I even downloaded and re-installed SM 2.1 RC1. WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
WLS wrote: Seems Lightning 1.0b4pre has broken my UA, preventing me from using Yahoo! Mail Beta. When Lightning is disabled Yahoo! Mail Beta loads normally. I suspected Lightning because I noticed my posts on the MozillaZine forums only showed Lightning 1.04bpre as my UA instead of the full build string. Already reported by Stéphane Grégoire in this very same thread and filed as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 Possible workaround: go to about:config and set the preference calendar.useragent.extra to an empty string. /Stefan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
Stefan Sitter wrote: WLS wrote: Seems Lightning 1.0b4pre has broken my UA, preventing me from using Yahoo! Mail Beta. When Lightning is disabled Yahoo! Mail Beta loads normally. I suspected Lightning because I noticed my posts on the MozillaZine forums only showed Lightning 1.04bpre as my UA instead of the full build string. Already reported by Stéphane Grégoire in this very same thread and filed as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 Possible workaround: go to about:config and set the preference calendar.useragent.extra to an empty string. /Stefan That works. Apologies for not reading his complete post. I saw RSS and stopped reading. WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Browser no longer supported
I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. Is it time to switch from Seamonkey to FF? -- - Jane Galt Without America there is no Free World. The reason that Progressivism-Socialism-Communism always fail, is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. Obama and the Democrats: continuing the Cloward-Piven Progressive socialist agenda of borrowing, taxing and insanely spending the country into collapse and global socialism. To be a good democrat, you have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. The one thing that's being pushed in this country, is the motto: The harder I work, the more I owe society. The less I work, the more society owes me. We can't be a great country with that motto. - Charles Payne. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
On 5/29/11 11:21 AM, Jane_Galt wrote: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. Is it time to switch from Seamonkey to FF? On your SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. In the last (5th) bullet in the white box, copy all the text for Build identifier. Reply here, pasting the text into your reply. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Jane_Galt schrieb: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. Is it time to switch from Seamonkey to FF? Might just be the time to switch to SeaMonkey 2.1 instead, which 98% of those sites magically support. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Robert Kaiser wrote: Jane_Galt schrieb: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. Is it time to switch from Seamonkey to FF? Might just be the time to switch to SeaMonkey 2.1 instead, which 98% of those sites magically support. Google search is perfectly happy with my SM 2.0.14 and has been with all previous versions I have ever used. So why should I take the risk and become a beta tester if I don't have to? For those few sites too stupid to sniff for Gecko, why not just lie to them and spoof FF? There are lots of options... -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: For those few sites too stupid to sniff for Gecko, why not just lie to them and spoof FF? That's what 2.1 does. And it's not beta any more, it's RC, which means it's as good as release, with just minor adjustments to be made still. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community needs answers to. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
On 5/29/2011 3:41 PM Robert Kaiser submitted the following: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: For those few sites too stupid to sniff for Gecko, why not just lie to them and spoof FF? That's what 2.1 does. And it's not beta any more, it's RC, which means it's as good as release, with just minor adjustments to be made still. Robert Kaiser Personally I don't think we should have to lie about our browser. That said, I do use 'PrefBar' and spoof when I have to - but I still don't like to. I normally e-mail to whatever site it is that doesn't like SM (the webmaster or help desk) with the following text: == I use SeaMonkey - Your system will not support it, although other Gecko based mail systems are supported. You may not be aware that SeaMonkey is a suite (mail browser combined) as was Netscape Mozilla. It is basically Firefox and Thunderbird rolled into one program. You are supporting other Gecko based software, why not SeaMonkey? Perhaps your powers-to-be should read: http://geckoisgecko.org/ And going further a quote from Wikipedia: Gecko is the second most-popular layout engine on the World Wide Web, after Trident (used by Internet Explorer for Windows since version 4), and followed by WebKit (used by Safari Google Chrome) and Presto (used by Opera). And I'm thinking that you don't support it because it adheres pretty much to the W3C standards for HTML and CSS. 'Nuff said. == Most answers are: We only support the most common browsers. I never heard of SeaMonkey And one actually reported a change in his sniffing to recognize SeaMonkey. -- Ed http://mysite.verizon.net/vze1zhwu/ Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ Not everything that is faced can be changed but nothing can be changed until it is faced.-James Baldwin (1924-1987) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Robert Kaiser wrote: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: For those few sites too stupid to sniff for Gecko, why not just lie to them and spoof FF? That's what 2.1 does. And it's not beta any more, it's RC, which means it's as good as release, with just minor adjustments to be made still. I see. I missed that memo. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
W3BNR wrote: On 5/29/2011 3:41 PM Robert Kaiser submitted the following: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: For those few sites too stupid to sniff for Gecko, why not just lie to them and spoof FF? That's what 2.1 does. And it's not beta any more, it's RC, which means it's as good as release, with just minor adjustments to be made still. Robert Kaiser Personally I don't think we should have to lie about our browser. That said, I do use 'PrefBar' and spoof when I have to - but I still don't like to. I normally e-mail to whatever site it is that doesn't like SM (the webmaster or help desk) with the following text: == I think it is great that you encourage web sites to support SM! But think of all the mobile platforms that would also like support. Most answers are: We only support the most common browsers. This is a necessary evil of support which means training expensive people to answer (ofteh silly) questions! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Jane_Galt wrote: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. When you encounter idiots who don't know how to build a website properly, you have options: 1) Avoid the idiots permanently 2) Complain to the idiots that they should learn how to do their jobs. 3) Spoof your browser's user agent. As has been said, the newest version of SeaMonkey does #3 by default. SeaMonkey users who *want* their browser to be counted accurately think that is a BAD idea and they will spoof **only** when absolutely necessary (allowing non-idiots to tally them properly). The choice is yours. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Rick Merrill wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 5/29/2011 3:41 PM Robert Kaiser submitted the following: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: For those few sites too stupid to sniff for Gecko, why not just lie to them and spoof FF? That's what 2.1 does. And it's not beta any more, it's RC, which means it's as good as release, with just minor adjustments to be made still. Robert Kaiser Personally I don't think we should have to lie about our browser. That said, I do use 'PrefBar' and spoof when I have to - but I still don't like to. I normally e-mail to whatever site it is that doesn't like SM (the webmaster or help desk) with the following text: == I think it is great that you encourage web sites to support SM! But think of all the mobile platforms that would also like support. Of course, the cheapest way to support all the browsers would be to write W3C compliant code, and pay one webmaster to do it instead of paying three or five or eight to write three or five or eight different versions. Most answers are: We only support the most common browsers. This is a necessary evil of support which means training expensive people to answer (ofteh silly) questions! And of course a compliant site would get fewer calls, would it not? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
JeffM wrote: Jane_Galt wrote: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. When you encounter idiots who don't know how to build a website properly, you have options: 1) Avoid the idiots permanently 2) Complain to the idiots that they should learn how to do their jobs. ... This is a delicate job, not easily done. You don't know who you're talking to, so you can't choose to push the right button. Some people respond well to coaxing, others to light humor, still others to a kick in the pants, etc. etc. Most people respond badly to shape up, you idiot! but for a few, that's the only way to change them. Many people will honor a polite, respectful request, but some will ignore it. What do you do if you enter the reactor control room with lights out and alarms ringing? Which button will shut it down and which will blow you up? No way to know. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote : On 5/29/11 11:21 AM, Jane_Galt wrote: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. Is it time to switch from Seamonkey to FF? On your SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. In the last (5th) bullet in the white box, copy all the text for Build identifier. Reply here, pasting the text into your reply. about:buildconfig Source Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/rev/6a8fcd90b366 Build platform target i686-pc-mingw32 Build tools CompilerVersion Compiler flags cl 14.00.50727.762 -TC -nologo -W3 -Gy -Fdgenerated.pdb -DNDEBUG - DTRIMMED -Zi -UDEBUG -DNDEBUG -O1 cl 14.00.50727.762 -GR- -TP -nologo -Zc:wchar_t- -W3 -Gy - Fdgenerated.pdb -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Zi -UDEBUG -DNDEBUG -O1 Configure arguments --enable-application=suite --enable-update-channel=release --enable-update- packaging --enable-jemalloc --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-tests --enable-application=suite --enable-update-channel=release --enable-update- packaging --enable-jemalloc --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-tests --enable-application=../suite --disable-official-branding --with- branding=../suite/branding/nightly --disable-debug --enable-optimize --cache- file=.././config.cache --srcdir=/e/builds/slave/rel-comm-191-w32- bld/build/mozilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Jane_Galt wrote: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. When you encounter idiots who don't know how to build a website properly, you have options: 1) Avoid the idiots permanently 2) Complain to the idiots that they should learn how to do their jobs. 3) Spoof your browser's user agent. As has been said, the newest version of SeaMonkey does #3 by default. SeaMonkey users who *want* their browser to be counted accurately think that is a BAD idea and they will spoof **only** when absolutely necessary (allowing non-idiots to tally them properly). The choice is yours. You consider Google, one of the biggest sites in the world, to be idiots? -- - Jane Galt Without America there is no Free World. The reason that Progressivism-Socialism-Communism always fail, is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. Obama and the Democrats: continuing the Cloward-Piven Progressive socialist agenda of borrowing, taxing and insanely spending the country into collapse and global socialism. To be a good democrat, you have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. The one thing that's being pushed in this country, is the motto: The harder I work, the more I owe society. The less I work, the more society owes me. We can't be a great country with that motto. - Charles Payne. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Robert Kaiser ka...@kairo.at wrote : Jane_Galt schrieb: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. Is it time to switch from Seamonkey to FF? Might just be the time to switch to SeaMonkey 2.1 instead, which 98% of those sites magically support. Robert Kaiser When I click the logo on the upper right, it says: Download Now SeaMonkey 2.0.14 * Windows, English (10 MB) * Linux GTK2, English (13 MB) * Mac OS X, English (22 MB) * Other Systems Languages So I thought that was the latest. -- - Jane Galt Without America there is no Free World. The reason that Progressivism-Socialism-Communism always fail, is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. Obama and the Democrats: continuing the Cloward-Piven Progressive socialist agenda of borrowing, taxing and insanely spending the country into collapse and global socialism. To be a good democrat, you have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. The one thing that's being pushed in this country, is the motto: The harder I work, the more I owe society. The less I work, the more society owes me. We can't be a great country with that motto. - Charles Payne. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Jan_Galt wrote: You consider Google, one of the biggest sites in the world, to be idiots? Size is no measure of intelligence. Some of the biggest people I know are idiots. For that matter, some of the smallest ones are idiots, too. It cuts across all demographics. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Interviewed by CNN on 29/05/2011 16:41, Robert Kaiser told the world: Paul B. Gallagher schrieb: For those few sites too stupid to sniff for Gecko, why not just lie to them and spoof FF? That's what 2.1 does. And it's not beta any more, it's RC, which means it's as good as release, with just minor adjustments to be made still. I sure hope that one of those adjustments is in the installer. I tried to upgrade my 2.0.14 to the RC1, but ran into a series of weird problems with the built-in themes(!) and extensions(!) being listed as incompatible with SM 2.1. I'm no novice with Mozilla, having been here since Netscape 2.0 at least, but I couldn't figure out what's wrong with that. I REALLY wouldn't like to rebuild my profile from scratch. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Bic. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.14 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Yahoo email upgrade - possible problem with SeaMonkey?
On 05/29/2011 08:48 AM, WLS wrote: John wrote: ... I know SeaMonkey is based on Firefox, but I've encountered some websites which work with Firefox but don't recognize SeaMonkey as a valid browser. If this Yahoo email upgrade doesn't work with SeaMonkey, I will not be a happy camper. I hope someone in the SeaMonkey development team is talking with Yahoo to make sure this doesn't become a problem. Thanks! John The new Yahoo Mail Beta stopped working for me on SeaMonkey 2.1 RC1 (seems there is a problem with my UA, which I can't seem to correct). If you click on Help on the top of the upgrade your browser page and select Feedback, you can inform Yahoo that it is not your browser that doesn't support Yahoo! Mail Beta, but Yahoo! Mail Beta that does not support your browser which is SeaMonkey 2.0.13. I also included these 2 URL's in my feedback. http://geckoisgecko.org/ https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Browser_Detection_and_Cross_Browser_Support That is what I did, but I don't really expect it to be fixed by Yahoo. The next version of SeaMonkey should work. It did for me until I upgraded to the release candidate. WLS I only log into the webmail to report spam or check spam folders. However, this url works for me so give it a try instead of your usual: http://us.mg.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch That is the one that they used for the beta, but still works just fine for me. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
JeffM wrote : [...]idiots who don't know how to build a website properly[...] Jan_Galt wrote: You consider Google, one of the biggest sites in the world, to be idiots? Yup. This topic has been covered in this group innumerable times. YOU DON'T NEED TO SNIFF FOR BROWSERS. Just make your stupid pages W3C-compliant. If you are a pervert and insist on sniffing, DON'T then serve up a You-are-a-doodie-head page. Just serve up a standards-compliant page and let the chips fall where they may. (Frankly, if they are going to sniff then bitch, they should go ahead and flag M$'s crappy browsers as turds.) Disclaimer: Though I use Google all the time, the only time I see http://.google.com/ is after I have used their complaint form to bitch about something whereupon they use that URL as the landing page. I use a previously-visited Google numerical IP address already in my Address Bar and edit that URL to do a search.[1] As a rule, their JavaScript and other stupid improvements don't affect me. ...and I avoid DNS by going numeric. I hear that in your Goggle preferences you can also turn off much of the stupidity; again, I do it all manually and precisely. . . ...and corporate size doesn't seem to bring with it any particular smarts. Micros~1 is also a huge outfit, yet they are obviously too stupid to put out a product that doesn't suck. http://google.com/search?q=botnet+%22.13-million%22 . . [1] I also don't end up with a ridiculously long URL that I have to pare down anyway if I include it in a post. A keyboard macro app can then insert the text-address part back in. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
I have just downloaded SeaMonkey 2.1 RC. It is fantastic! Very stable (so far). Very easy to set up. I simply clicked on the SeaMonkey icon and the program checked all my add-ons for compatibility. Then it froze (although no biggie). After a reboot I relaunched SeaMonkey and all my previous settings were there (bookmarks, emails, passwords, cookies). The main improvement in SeaMonkey is speed. It is very noticeably faster than 2.0. BTW I am using an iMac (late 2006 24) running OS X 10.6.7 with 2 GB memory. Try the 2.1 version of SeaMonkey. Even though it is still a RC (release candidate) it is very stable on my Mac. Many thanks to all the SeaMonkey and Mozilla developers for the good work with SeaMonkey 2.1 RC. What are other users experiences with SeaMonkey 2.1 RC? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On 05/29/2011 03:42 AM, Stefan Sitter wrote: Stéphane Grégoire wrote: RSS still worked but I had a very curious bug, my user-agent in mail, news, about: was correct but the user-agent sent to a web server was Lightning 1.0b4pre! Thanks for catching this error. I filed Bug 660522. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 /Stefan Your UA: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 This is a SeaMonkey group, so I'm not sure how relevant your bug report is. However on mine with Lightning 1.0b4: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 and in Windows: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110511 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 I'm not familiar with using RSS within Lightning; search seems to indicate that it's an add-on? http://www.google.com/search?q=mozilla+%2Blightning+%2BrssbtnG=Search ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
Jan_Galt wrote: Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote : Jane_Galt schrieb: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. Is it time to switch from Seamonkey to FF? Might just be the time to switch to SeaMonkey 2.1 instead, which 98% of those sites magically support. Robert Kaiser When I click the logo on the upper right, it says: Download Now SeaMonkey 2.0.14 * Windows, English (10 MB) * Linux GTK2, English (13 MB) * Mac OS X, English (22 MB) * Other Systems Languages So I thought that was the latest. It is the latest in the 2.0.x branch. SM 2.1 is the new release coming soon. Meanwhile the Release Candidate works great. WLS ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On Sun, 29 May 2011 18:42:48 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 05/29/2011 03:42 AM, Stefan Sitter wrote: Stéphane Grégoire wrote: RSS still worked but I had a very curious bug, my user-agent in mail, news, about: was correct but the user-agent sent to a web server was Lightning 1.0b4pre! Thanks for catching this error. I filed Bug 660522. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 /Stefan Your UA: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 This is a SeaMonkey group, so I'm not sure how relevant your bug report is. However on mine with Lightning 1.0b4: Stefan is a Calendar/Lightning peer so wouldn't have filed that bug if it wasn't relevant. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser History
On 5/15/11 8:01 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: David E. Ross schrieb: The user interface to control the browser history has been removed from SeaMonkey 2.1RC1. Do any of the following preference variables still have any effect on controlling the history? No. We have been talking bout this multiple times here and there were blog posts about that automatic system that is in place there now, which we linked to. Robert Kaiser It would have been helpful if you had provided the URI to the blog post. In any case, this A Better Expiration Component Is Now Part of Places Module is really not better. It represents another situation in which a user control of the browsing experience has been eliminated. From comments on the blog post, I think other users are as upset as I am. See bug #660567 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660567. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
On 5/29/11 4:04 PM, Jan_Galt wrote: David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote : On 5/29/11 11:21 AM, Jane_Galt wrote: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. Is it time to switch from Seamonkey to FF? On your SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Help About SeaMonkey]. In the last (5th) bullet in the white box, copy all the text for Build identifier. Reply here, pasting the text into your reply. about:buildconfig Source Built from http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/rev/6a8fcd90b366 Build platform target i686-pc-mingw32 Build tools Compiler Version Compiler flags cl14.00.50727.762 -TC -nologo -W3 -Gy -Fdgenerated.pdb -DNDEBUG - DTRIMMED -Zi -UDEBUG -DNDEBUG -O1 cl14.00.50727.762 -GR- -TP -nologo -Zc:wchar_t- -W3 -Gy - Fdgenerated.pdb -DNDEBUG -DTRIMMED -Zi -UDEBUG -DNDEBUG -O1 Configure arguments --enable-application=suite --enable-update-channel=release --enable-update- packaging --enable-jemalloc --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-tests --enable-application=suite --enable-update-channel=release --enable-update- packaging --enable-jemalloc --enable-static --disable-shared --disable-tests --enable-application=../suite --disable-official-branding --with- branding=../suite/branding/nightly --disable-debug --enable-optimize --cache- file=.././config.cache --srcdir=/e/builds/slave/rel-comm-191-w32- bld/build/mozilla No, I was not asking for build:config. I want the user agent (UA) string that follows Build identifier when you select [Help About SeaMonkey] on the menu bar. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
On 5/29/11 4:08 PM, Jan_Galt wrote: JeffM jef...@email.com wrote : Jane_Galt wrote: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. When you encounter idiots who don't know how to build a website properly, you have options: 1) Avoid the idiots permanently 2) Complain to the idiots that they should learn how to do their jobs. 3) Spoof your browser's user agent. As has been said, the newest version of SeaMonkey does #3 by default. SeaMonkey users who *want* their browser to be counted accurately think that is a BAD idea and they will spoof **only** when absolutely necessary (allowing non-idiots to tally them properly). The choice is yours. You consider Google, one of the biggest sites in the world, to be idiots? When I was young (before Noah and the Flood, or at least in the late 1950s), I would sometimes criticize some large company. My father would reply that a company could not become the largest in its industry by doing things incorrectly. He stopped making such replies when I mentioned the bankruptcy of the Penn-Central Railroad, the largest railroad company in the U.S. Also, see my signature below. Google seems incapable of controlling spam sent through its own services. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SeaMonkey 2.1 RC
On 5/29/11 6:35 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote: I have just downloaded SeaMonkey 2.1 RC. It is fantastic! Very stable (so far). Very easy to set up. I simply clicked on the SeaMonkey icon and the program checked all my add-ons for compatibility. Then it froze (although no biggie). After a reboot I relaunched SeaMonkey and all my previous settings were there (bookmarks, emails, passwords, cookies). The main improvement in SeaMonkey is speed. It is very noticeably faster than 2.0. BTW I am using an iMac (late 2006 24) running OS X 10.6.7 with 2 GB memory. Try the 2.1 version of SeaMonkey. Even though it is still a RC (release candidate) it is very stable on my Mac. Many thanks to all the SeaMonkey and Mozilla developers for the good work with SeaMonkey 2.1 RC. What are other users experiences with SeaMonkey 2.1 RC? Since I installed SM 2.1RC1 on 13 May, I have submitted 13 bug reports. Only 8 are actually against SeaMonkey itself. The others are against Core and Toolkit, but I noticed them only because I had installed SM 2.1RC1. I categorized only two of the actual SeaMonkey bug reports as major, there being no possible workaround. One is normal, two are minor, one is trivial, and one is an RFE (request for enhancement. Overall, I would consider SM 2.1RC1 to be good but not great. The major bug reports: #658936 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=658936 #659731 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659731 -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
WLS wls15...@yahooremove.com wrote : Jan_Galt wrote: Robert Kaiserka...@kairo.at wrote : Jane_Galt schrieb: I keep getting messages from Google search, Adwords and other places that my browser ( SM ) is no longer supported. Is it time to switch from Seamonkey to FF? Might just be the time to switch to SeaMonkey 2.1 instead, which 98% of those sites magically support. Robert Kaiser When I click the logo on the upper right, it says: Download Now SeaMonkey 2.0.14 * Windows, English (10 MB) * Linux GTK2, English (13 MB) * Mac OS X, English (22 MB) * Other Systems Languages So I thought that was the latest. It is the latest in the 2.0.x branch. SM 2.1 is the new release coming soon. Meanwhile the Release Candidate works great. WLS Good, guess I'll keep an eye out for its release, thanks. -- - Jane Galt Without America there is no Free World. The reason that Progressivism-Socialism-Communism always fail, is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. Obama and the Democrats: continuing the Cloward-Piven Progressive socialist agenda of borrowing, taxing and insanely spending the country into collapse and global socialism. To be a good democrat, you have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. The one thing that's being pushed in this country, is the motto: The harder I work, the more I owe society. The less I work, the more society owes me. We can't be a great country with that motto. - Charles Payne. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote : No, I was not asking for build:config. I want the user agent (UA) string that follows Build identifier when you select [Help About SeaMonkey] on the menu bar. No build identifier on mine. That's why I sent the other. -- - Jane Galt Without America there is no Free World. The reason that Progressivism-Socialism-Communism always fail, is that you eventually run out of other peoples' money. Obama and the Democrats: continuing the Cloward-Piven Progressive socialist agenda of borrowing, taxing and insanely spending the country into collapse and global socialism. To be a good democrat, you have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity. The one thing that's being pushed in this country, is the motto: The harder I work, the more I owe society. The less I work, the more society owes me. We can't be a great country with that motto. - Charles Payne. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Clicking on Share button in YouTube videos go to blank web page and get stuck in reading ssl.gstatic.com server.
On 5/28/2011 8:48 AM PT, Ant typed: I noticed this started a few days ago when logged into YouTube.com and trying to share its videos to gets its embedded videos. It seems like it doesn't detect SeaMonkey v2.0.14 correctly since using Firefox v3.6.8 user agent (and even changing back to real one from SM2 until I exit SM2) had no problems. Is anyone else noticing this too? OK, it looks like it is not just SeaMonkey's web browser but others too according to http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/youtube/thread?tid=51b3af5a054a0b27 ... :( -- Do not kill ants. They are your best friends. --Joe Brainard /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[RSS] Re: Need testers for Lightning 1.0b4 for SeaMonkey 2.1
On 05/29/2011 07:17 PM, Philip Chee wrote: On Sun, 29 May 2011 18:42:48 -0700, NoOp wrote: On 05/29/2011 03:42 AM, Stefan Sitter wrote: Stéphane Grégoire wrote: RSS still worked but I had a very curious bug, my user-agent in mail, news, about: was correct but the user-agent sent to a web server was Lightning 1.0b4pre! Thanks for catching this error. I filed Bug 660522. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660522 /Stefan Your UA: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 This is a SeaMonkey group, so I'm not sure how relevant your bug report is. However on mine with Lightning 1.0b4: Stefan is a Calendar/Lightning peer so wouldn't have filed that bug if it wasn't relevant. Phil I realise that Stefan is a Calendar/Lightning peer. However the bug issue still doesn't make sense to me regarding rss (or at all for that matter). The bug subject is: Lightning completely replaces the Thunderbird/SeaMonkey user agent in the protocol headers. Further, his bug report states: Now the headers only contain Lightning/1.0b4pre I'm stating that with Lightning 1.0b4 I show no 'Lightning/whatever' at all in the UA. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser History
On 5/29/11 7:32 PM, David E. Ross wrote: On 5/15/11 8:01 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: David E. Ross schrieb: The user interface to control the browser history has been removed from SeaMonkey 2.1RC1. Do any of the following preference variables still have any effect on controlling the history? No. We have been talking bout this multiple times here and there were blog posts about that automatic system that is in place there now, which we linked to. Robert Kaiser It would have been helpful if you had provided the URI to the blog post. In any case, this A Better Expiration Component Is Now Part of Places Module is really not better. It represents another situation in which a user control of the browsing experience has been eliminated. From comments on the blog post, I think other users are as upset as I am. See bug #660567 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=660567. #660567 was closed as a duplicate of #643254. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=643254. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Browser no longer supported
On 5/29/11 8:22 PM, Jan_Galt wrote: David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote : No, I was not asking for build:config. I want the user agent (UA) string that follows Build identifier when you select [Help About SeaMonkey] on the menu bar. No build identifier on mine. That's why I sent the other. No Build identifier could indicate you are sending a blank UA string to the Web server. If this is so, it might well be the cause of your problem. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
