Re: Is there a way to have SM v2.0.14+ automatically open web sites at/after a specific date and time?

2011-08-13 Thread Philipp van Hüllen

Ant schrieb:

On 8/12/2011 1:24 PM PT, Ant typed:

Then use scheduled tasks in the control panel to run
seamonkey.exe -url [whatever]
at the dates/times desired


Ooh, not a bad idea. I will try that later. Thanks! :)


It works nicely in Windows. Will this parameter still work in other OS'
like Linux and Mac OS X too?


I'm pretty sure I saw this working on Solaris/Linux often enough.

On MacOS 10.7 / SM2.3b3  I currently don't get it to run:

/Applications/SeaMonkey.app/Contents/MacOS/seamonkey-bin -url www.heise.de

- yields a pop-up, which tells me, that only one instance of SM can be 
running at any time...
(Same for -new-tab/-new-window options, and though -no-remote implies 
adding another tab/window to a running instance should be the default.)


BR/Philipp
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Re: html5 demo

2011-08-13 Thread Christian Riechers
On 08/10/2011 11:11 AM, Stéphane Grégoire wrote:
 Hi,
 
 Do you see something?
 
 http://robhawkes.github.com/webgl-html5-audio-visualiser/
 
 
 I only see a black screen with Seamonkey 2.2 and Firefox 5!
 
 
 I'm on Linux xUbuntu 11.04
 

Have you set the pref for the path to your Mesa library?
In about:config filter for 'webgl.osmesalib'. Mine is set to
'/usr/lib/libOSMesa.so'.
It works for me using FF6 on Linux. You may also need to allow WebGL in
Noscript, in case that is installed.

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2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Juiceman
When I installed SM 2.2 my bookmarks are gone. Second problem is 
annoying more than a problem, there isn't a little x on the tab to close 
it. You have to rt click to close the tab.


I sure would like to see my bookmarks again.
Any ideas how to fix this??

  B
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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sat, 13 Aug 2011 19:45:07 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:34:32 -0700, /Juiceman/:


Second problem is
annoying more than a problem, there isn't a little x on the tab to
close it. You have to rt click to close the tab.


As far as I remember, no SeaMonkey version has ever had a little x
on browser tabs. There has always been one on the far right of the
tab bar, however.


You can also just middle-click on tabs to close them.

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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Sat, 13 Aug 2011 09:34:32 -0700, /Juiceman/:


When I installed SM 2.2 my bookmarks are gone. Second problem is
annoying more than a problem, there isn't a little x on the tab to
close it. You have to rt click to close the tab.


As far as I remember, no SeaMonkey version has ever had a little x 
on browser tabs.  There has always been one on the far right of the 
tab bar, however.



I sure would like to see my bookmarks again.
Any ideas how to fix this??


Have you by any chance installed a 2.1 or 2.2 pre release version 
and tried it with your profile?  See 
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.2/#issues:


  * Data loss warning: If you use a profile with this or any later 
version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, SeaMonkey will 
rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and create a new 
places.sqlite file, effectively resetting your browsing history. 
This is because the internal format changed and the upgrade process 
only works in one direction.


You may also just import your SeaMonkey 2.0 bookmarks.html file 
into the 2.2 profile format using Tools - Import HTML... - File 
(from the Bookmarks Manager).


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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)


Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

 You can also just middle-click on tabs to close them.

How would one simulate a middle-click with a 2-button mouse, Stanimir ?
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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Jay Garcia
On 13.08.2011 11:52, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 
 
 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 
 You can also just middle-click on tabs to close them.
 
 How would one simulate a middle-click with a 2-button mouse, Stanimir ?
 Philip Taylor

Easier to just add the extension Seatab X

http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/extensions.html

This will add an x to the tab to close it.

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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/13/11 9:34 AM, Juiceman wrote:
 When I installed SM 2.2 my bookmarks are gone. Second problem is 
 annoying more than a problem, there isn't a little x on the tab to close 
 it. You have to rt click to close the tab.
 
 I sure would like to see my bookmarks again.
 Any ideas how to fix this??
 
B

When you say my bookmarks are gone, do you mean you cannot find the
file bookmarks.html?  Or do you mean that, when you go to the menu bar
and select [Bookmarks  Manage Bookmarks], the Bookmarks Manager window
shows no bookmarks?

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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)


Jay Garcia wrote:

 Easier to just add the extension Seatab X
 
 http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/extensions.html
 
 This will add an x to the tab to close it.

Ah yes, nice : I don't like tabs, but that extension does,
at a stroke, address one of my most serious objections to them.

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Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread Juiceman
When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or send 
it or save it.


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Re: Is there a way to have SM v2.0.14+ automatically open web sites at/after a specific date and time?

2011-08-13 Thread Lemuel Johnson

Ant wrote:

On 8/12/2011 1:24 PM PT, Ant typed:


(SNIPPED)


It works nicely in Windows. Will this paremter still work in other OS'
like Linux and Mac OS X too?


The Windows scheduler is equivalent to the Linux crontab/cron duo.

lj
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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Jay Garcia
On 13.08.2011 12:21, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 
 
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 
 Easier to just add the extension Seatab X
 
 http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/extensions.html
 
 This will add an x to the tab to close it.
 
 Ah yes, nice : I don't like tabs, but that extension does,
 at a stroke, address one of my most serious objections to them.
 
 Philip Taylor

If you don't like tabs:

With only new tab displayed:

VIEW = Show/Hide = Tab Bar

Now you don't even need the x. ;-)


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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)


Jay Garcia wrote:

 If you don't like tabs:
 
 With only new tab displayed:

...

Silly question, but how do I get only new tab displayed ?
** Phil.
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Re: Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Juiceman wrote:

 When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
 send it or save it.

Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites use
subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent copyright
theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and state which
picture you tried.

Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is already in
your browser's cache.

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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 13/08/2011 14:43, Juiceman told the world:

 Its when I click the bookmark button I just get the new style bookmark 
 manager, but my saved bookmark list dosnt show.

OK. IF you have upgraded directly from 2.0.x to 2.2 (that is, if you
wasn't using 2.1 previously), this sounds like a case of failure of the
automatic conversion to the new bookmarks system. It happens sometimes,
but the reasons are still being investigated.

The solution, though, is simple. Open the bookmark manager, open the
menu Tools/Import HTML, select File, navigate to your Seamonkey
profile and select bookmarks.html.

This was SUPPOSED to happen automatically on first run of SM 2.1 or
above, but as I said, sometimes it fails for still unknown reasons.
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This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized
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Stylish in 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread S. Beaulieu
Has Stylish been ported yet for 2.2? I can't seem to find any info, and 
not having the row colours alternating in Mail makes it harder to manage 
on my big screen.


Thanks!

S.
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Re: Stylish in 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread S. Beaulieu

Jens Hatlak a écrit :


There's an experimental version on AMO that is compatible with SM 2.2.
You may either install that one or the Add-ons Compatibilty Reporter.
The latter is also advisable for the soon to be released SM 2.3.



I have the Add-ons Compatibility Reporter, which makes it show in SM as 
usual, but the scripts aren't taken into account, so I'd say the version 
I had truly isn't compatible.


AMO = alt.mozilla.?

Thanks!

S.

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Re: Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread W3BNR

On 8/13/2011 1:54 PM Beauregard T. Shagnasty submitted the following:

Juiceman wrote:


When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
send it or save it.


Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites use
subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent copyright
theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and state which
picture you tried.

Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is already in
your browser's cache.



Lot's of luck in finding it in the multitude of subdirectories in the new cache 
setup in 2.2 and 2.3


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Re: Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread J. Weaver Jr.

W3BNR wrote:

On 8/13/2011 1:54 PM Beauregard T. Shagnasty submitted the following:

 Juiceman wrote:


 When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
 send it or save it.


 Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites use
 subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent copyright
 theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and state which
 picture you tried.

 Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is already in
 your browser's cache.



Lot's of luck in finding it in the multitude of subdirectories in the new cache
setup in 2.2 and 2.3



Still easy with about:cache.  -JW
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Re: Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/13/11 10:54 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Juiceman wrote:
 
 When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
 send it or save it.
 
 Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites use
 subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent copyright
 theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and state which
 picture you tried.
 
 Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is already in
 your browser's cache.
 

I often disable the blocking of copying by disabling JavaScript.  This
works even if I disabled after the page is rendered.

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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/13/11 10:34 AM, Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 13.08.2011 12:21, Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:
 
  --- Original Message ---
 


 Jay Garcia wrote:

 Easier to just add the extension Seatab X

 http://tom-cat.com/mozilla/extensions.html

 This will add an x to the tab to close it.

 Ah yes, nice : I don't like tabs, but that extension does,
 at a stroke, address one of my most serious objections to them.

 Philip Taylor
 
 If you don't like tabs:
 
 With only new tab displayed:
 
 VIEW = Show/Hide = Tab Bar
 
 Now you don't even need the x. ;-)
 
 

No, I don't think that is correct.  I think that affects the Tabs bar
only when a single tab is open.

Instead, on the menu bar select [Edit  Preference].  On the left side
of the Preferences window under Categories, select [Browser  Link
Behavior].  In each of the three groups of radio buttons, select the
bottom button for new windows.  Then select the OK button.

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Re: Stylish in 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/13/11 11:20 AM, S. Beaulieu wrote:
 Jens Hatlak a écrit :

 There's an experimental version on AMO that is compatible with SM 2.2.
 You may either install that one or the Add-ons Compatibilty Reporter.
 The latter is also advisable for the soon to be released SM 2.3.
 
 
 I have the Add-ons Compatibility Reporter, which makes it show in SM as 
 usual, but the scripts aren't taken into account, so I'd say the version 
 I had truly isn't compatible.
 
 AMO = alt.mozilla.?
 
 Thanks!
 
 S.
 

AMO = addons.mozilla.org

See https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/.

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Re: Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread W3BNR

On 8/13/2011 2:34 PM J. Weaver Jr. submitted the following:

W3BNR wrote:

On 8/13/2011 1:54 PM Beauregard T. Shagnasty submitted the following:

Juiceman wrote:


When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
send it or save it.


Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites use
subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent copyright
theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and state which
picture you tried.

Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is already in
your browser's cache.



Lot's of luck in finding it in the multitude of subdirectories in the new cache
setup in 2.2 and 2.3



Still easy with about:cache. -JW


Yes, about:cache does work most of the time, but not always - and not always 
easier that2.0.x and before.



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Re: Stylish in 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread S. Beaulieu

David E. Ross a écrit :




AMO = addons.mozilla.org



D'oh! I'm an idiot!

Thank you!

S.

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Re: Stylish in 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread S. Beaulieu

Jens Hatlak a écrit :

There's an experimental version on AMO that is compatible with SM 2.2.


Hum. I can only find 1.2, which is listed as not compatible. Is that the 
one you meant?


S.
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Re: Tab Groups

2011-08-13 Thread flyguy

On 8/6/2011 1:27 PM, Ant wrote:

On 8/6/2011 11:26 AM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


Ant wrote:

On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed:


Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey?


What does Tab Groups do?


http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/

I think it became standard in Firefox 4.


Interesting and thanks. So group tabs into tabs.


I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years ago.

I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs), NYT 
window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that day), 
shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't have the need 
for any more grouping than that.

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How can I disable the tab ribbon in 2.2?

2011-08-13 Thread flyguy
I prefer the 2.1 tab behavior for my 27 tab weather window, where the 
tabs all showed at once, because I often switch between tabs that are a 
long ways apart. Before, I could easily do that, now I have scroll the 
ribbon or click the tiny down arrow on the left. Is there any way to 
select the previous behavior?

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Group of tabs does not open when clicked on in 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread flyguy
In 2.1, I could click on a groupmark in Personal Toolbar, and all the 
tabs in it would open. Now, clicking on it shows me a list of the tabs, 
and the option to open them all at the bottom of the list. I can also 
right-click and get the open all more easily. But is there setting 
that simply opens all the tabs like previously?

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Re: Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
W3BNR wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty submitted the following:
 Juiceman wrote:
 When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
 send it or save it.
 
 Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites
 use subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent
 copyright theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and
 state which picture you tried. 
 
 Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is
 already in your browser's cache. 
 
 Lot's of luck in finding it in the multitude of subdirectories in
 the new cache setup in 2.2 and 2.3

There's always Ctrl+I. The Media tab.

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Re: Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread Lee
On 8/13/11, W3BNR w3...@verizon.net wrote:
 On 8/13/2011 2:34 PM J. Weaver Jr. submitted the following:
 W3BNR wrote:
 On 8/13/2011 1:54 PM Beauregard T. Shagnasty submitted the following:
 Juiceman wrote:

 When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
 send it or save it.

 Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites use
 subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent copyright
 theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and state which
 picture you tried.

 Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is already in
 your browser's cache.


 Lot's of luck in finding it in the multitude of subdirectories in the new
 cache
 setup in 2.2 and 2.3


 Still easy with about:cache. -JW

 Yes, about:cache does work most of the time, but not always - and not always
 easier that2.0.x and before.

Doesn't setting dom.event.contextmenu.enabled to false fix the
problem?  No need to go poking about in cache.

Lee
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Re: Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Juiceman wrote:


When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
send it or save it.


Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites use
subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent copyright
theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and state which
picture you tried.

Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is already in
your browser's cache.


Sure, but unlike IE, you can't look it up by filename because SM invents 
its own random filename.


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Re: Another 2.2 problem

2011-08-13 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

J. Weaver Jr. wrote:

W3BNR wrote:

On 8/13/2011 1:54 PM Beauregard T. Shagnasty submitted the following:

Juiceman wrote:


When I right click a picture I dont have the option to copy it or
send it or save it.


Is this for all pictures, or just a specific picture? Some sites use
subterfuge to prevent click/save in an attempt to prevent copyright
theft. You need to supply an exact example. URL, and state which
picture you tried.

Normally, the subterfuge is easily bypassed. The picture is already in
your browser's cache.



Lot's of luck in finding it in the multitude of subdirectories in the
new cache
setup in 2.2 and 2.3



Still easy with about:cache. -JW


Neat, but...

Once I find the desired resource, how do I display or save it? Clicking 
the link doesn't do that, and right-clicking it doesn't offer that.


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Adding a Go button to the location box - easy!

2011-08-13 Thread flyguy
Someone complained there wasn't a Go button on the right end of the 
location/URL box, so he had to press Enter instead. If you right-click 
on a blank space on the navigation toolbar, you are offered some icons 
to add to it. One of them is the Go button - drag it to your desired 
location.

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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread PhillipJones

Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:


You can also just middle-click on tabs to close them.


How would one simulate a middle-click with a 2-button mouse, Stanimir ?
Philip Taylor


How would you simulate Middle click with track pad built in a Laptop?



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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread PhillipJones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/13/11 9:34 AM, Juiceman wrote:

When I installed SM 2.2 my bookmarks are gone. Second problem is
annoying more than a problem, there isn't a little x on the tab to close
it. You have to rt click to close the tab.

I sure would like to see my bookmarks again.
Any ideas how to fix this??

B


When you say my bookmarks are gone, do you mean you cannot find the
file bookmarks.html?  Or do you mean that, when you go to the menu bar
and select [Bookmarks  Manage Bookmarks], the Bookmarks Manager window
shows no bookmarks?



That was my case when I tried out 2.3.3.a

I had copied over all the bookmarks from my 2.0 Profile into a new Profile.

The files were there, in the profile none showed up.

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Re: Tab Groups

2011-08-13 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
PhillipJones wrote:

 flyguy wrote:
 I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years
 ago. 
 
 I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs),
 NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that
 day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't
 have the need for any more grouping than that.
 
 I'm not a fan of tabs I prefer windows.

So you would rather have 37 to 57 (as in flyguy's situation) separate
windows open? Each with a button on your taskbar? How would you keep
track?

It has been weeks, maybe months, since I had more than one browser
window open...

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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/13/11 3:50 PM, PhillipJones wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/13/11 9:34 AM, Juiceman wrote:
 When I installed SM 2.2 my bookmarks are gone. Second problem is
 annoying more than a problem, there isn't a little x on the tab to close
 it. You have to rt click to close the tab.

 I sure would like to see my bookmarks again.
 Any ideas how to fix this??

 B

 When you say my bookmarks are gone, do you mean you cannot find the
 file bookmarks.html?  Or do you mean that, when you go to the menu bar
 and select [Bookmarks  Manage Bookmarks], the Bookmarks Manager window
 shows no bookmarks?

 
 That was my case when I tried out 2.3.3.a
 
 I had copied over all the bookmarks from my 2.0 Profile into a new Profile.
 
 The files were there, in the profile none showed up.
 

If you have the bookmarks.html file, open the Bookmarks Manager (as I
indicated earlier).  On the Bookmarks Manager menu bar, select [Tools 
Import HTML].  On the Import Wizard popup dialogue, select the File
radio button and then the Next button.  On the Import Bookmarks File
file-selection window, navigate to the bookmarks.html file and select
it.  The rest should be easy.

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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

2011-08-13 Thread sean nathan bean

Sailfish sent me the following::

My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011
5:56 PM:

My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on
7/3/2011 9:22 PM:

My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the
Seamonkey to version 2.

It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking
theme, that is listed as the default theme.

It appears that software developers design software for their own
pleasure, and not for the users.

The Classic theme will not install.

The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to
the left of the toolbars.

Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x,
so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the
themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape?


I've just ported the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is
available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ .

Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like
(Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits.

Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You
may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted
most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo,
c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this
response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add
you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email.


I've just ported the SM1.x Venerable Modern theme to SM2.2+. It is
available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the
site using SeaMonkey 2.2x.

Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite
making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most
beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an
added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named,
Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining
it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To
enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions.

Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race
Day and, hopefully, Toy Factory and Sky Pilot Classic) as time permits.

Lastly, I've also updated the Modern Mozillium theme and fixed a number
styling errors or previously unstyled elements.

Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may
email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of
the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you
prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your
email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and
send you a confirmation email.



just installed Venerable Modern... still like it... greatly appreciate 
the theme updates... toy factory was always a fave... but i think i like 
more subtlety in my aging years...


sean


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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread PhillipJones

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/13/11 3:50 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 8/13/11 9:34 AM, Juiceman wrote:

When I installed SM 2.2 my bookmarks are gone. Second problem is
annoying more than a problem, there isn't a little x on the tab to close
it. You have to rt click to close the tab.

I sure would like to see my bookmarks again.
Any ideas how to fix this??

 B


When you say my bookmarks are gone, do you mean you cannot find the
file bookmarks.html?  Or do you mean that, when you go to the menu bar
and select [Bookmarks   Manage Bookmarks], the Bookmarks Manager window
shows no bookmarks?



That was my case when I tried out 2.3.3.a

I had copied over all the bookmarks from my 2.0 Profile into a new Profile.

The files were there, in the profile none showed up.



If you have the bookmarks.html file, open the Bookmarks Manager (as I
indicated earlier).  On the Bookmarks Manager menu bar, select [Tools
Import HTML].  On the Import Wizard popup dialogue, select the File
radio button and then the Next button.  On the Import Bookmarks File
file-selection window, navigate to the bookmarks.html file and select
it.  The rest should be easy.



Thanks I'll have to try when 2.3 or 2.4. I'm determined to try until I 
get one that works I might try. I hope PDF support return by 2.4.


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Re: Tab Groups

2011-08-13 Thread PhillipJones

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


flyguy wrote:

I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years
ago.

I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs),
NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that
day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't
have the need for any more grouping than that.


I'm not a fan of tabs I prefer windows.


So you would rather have 37 to 57 (as in flyguy's situation) separate
windows open? Each with a button on your taskbar? How would you keep
track?

It has been weeks, maybe months, since I had more than one browser
window open...

Actually the way I have 2.0.14 setup each new window content replace the 
old window connect. Unless for some reason the Web site generate a new 
window. And who want 57 *tabs* or windows open at onetime doesn't that 
weigh down the application and slow things down.


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Re: Hotmail and 2.0.14

2011-08-13 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, Arnie Goetchius, on 8/12/2011 2:03 PM typed:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote:

Hotmail is now asking me to upgrade my browser every time I log in. I
already modified my about:config in order to get Yahoo Mail to work, by
adding Firefox/3.0 after general.useragent.extra.seamonkey2. What do I
have to do now to get Hotmail to recognize SM 2.0.14?


Upgrade to 2.2 (or 2.3) and you *should* be good.


But then you get duplicate tabs when you click on Home. Bug 369440. That's
keeping me with 2.0.xx


Second that, among other still-present glitches...

Arnie, check how you have your prefs configured for adding the Firefox
notations to your UA string.  My own SM 2.0.14 (running Mnenhy 0.8.3 for
expanded header info) is listing your UA as the following:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319
Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox /3.0 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US;
rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16 Firefox/3.0 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows;
U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.16) Gecko/20110319 Firefox/3.6.16
Firefox/3.0

It looks like your SM is sending the UA in quadruplicate, with a triplicate of
the same info prefaced by a UA that only references Gecko info.  This is very
strange.  Compare your UA above to my own below:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.19) Gecko/20110420
Lightning/1.0b1 Mnenhy/0.8.3 SeaMonkey/2.0.14

Something appears to be skewed in the way your copy of SM is relaying its User
Agent string.  Definitely need to check that.  I'd say that's probably the
core of the problem.


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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

2011-08-13 Thread PhillipJones

sean nathan bean wrote:

Sailfish sent me the following::

My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011
5:56 PM:

My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on
7/3/2011 9:22 PM:

My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the
Seamonkey to version 2.

It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking
theme, that is listed as the default theme.

It appears that software developers design software for their own
pleasure, and not for the users.

The Classic theme will not install.

The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to
the left of the toolbars.

Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x,
so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the
themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape?


I've just ported the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is
available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ .

Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like
(Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits.

Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You
may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted
most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo,
c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this
response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add
you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email.


I've just ported the SM1.x Venerable Modern theme to SM2.2+. It is
available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the
site using SeaMonkey 2.2x.

Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite
making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most
beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an
added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named,
Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining
it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To
enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions.

Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race
Day and, hopefully, Toy Factory and Sky Pilot Classic) as time permits.

Lastly, I've also updated the Modern Mozillium theme and fixed a number
styling errors or previously unstyled elements.

Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may
email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of
the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you
prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your
email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and
send you a confirmation email.



just installed Venerable Modern... still like it... greatly appreciate
the theme updates... toy factory was always a fave... but i think i like
more subtlety in my aging years...

sean


sean


I think Sky Pilot to be the best Theme ever designed for Mozilla 
Products. I would be using it now, if it was compatible. I like the 
ability to click in the dividers and open and close completely.  instead 
of having to pull them down. I use three pane mode, and and there are 
times when I want to pull the window down to mark groups of items as 
read or as spam without reading them.



The was a big flap several years ago, about this they wanted to remove 
two three lines of code to save space, and the current themes have this 
ability killed as a result.  you have to grab the divider  pull all the 
way down then when complete pull back up. a Big time waster.


SkyPilot had this feature where you click on the divider and it would 
open all the way down (hiding the reading window) click on it again ad 
it opens back to original setting.


I want it available for SeaMonkey and FireFox.

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Re: Stylish in 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Philip Chee
On Sat, 13 Aug 2011 14:13:07 -0400, S. Beaulieu wrote:
 Has Stylish been ported yet for 2.2? I can't seem to find any info, and 
 not having the row colours alternating in Mail makes it harder to manage 
 on my big screen.

There are several forks of Stylish out there.
The original  Stylish 1.2 by Jason Barnabe at:
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stylish/

Stylish-Custom 0.7.7 by ChoGGi
with custom additions to Stylish extension.
brings back features from 0.5.9 and adds new features
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/stylish-custom/

And there is my slightly modified 0.6
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html#stylish
(Note does not work in 2.5a because several somethings changed. No idea
what).

Phil

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Re: 2 issues with Seamonky 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread David E. Ross
On 8/13/11 9:07 PM, PhillipJones wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/13/11 3:50 PM, PhillipJones wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 On 8/13/11 9:34 AM, Juiceman wrote:
 When I installed SM 2.2 my bookmarks are gone. Second problem is
 annoying more than a problem, there isn't a little x on the tab to close
 it. You have to rt click to close the tab.

 I sure would like to see my bookmarks again.
 Any ideas how to fix this??

  B

 When you say my bookmarks are gone, do you mean you cannot find the
 file bookmarks.html?  Or do you mean that, when you go to the menu bar
 and select [Bookmarks   Manage Bookmarks], the Bookmarks Manager window
 shows no bookmarks?


 That was my case when I tried out 2.3.3.a

 I had copied over all the bookmarks from my 2.0 Profile into a new Profile.

 The files were there, in the profile none showed up.


 If you have the bookmarks.html file, open the Bookmarks Manager (as I
 indicated earlier).  On the Bookmarks Manager menu bar, select [Tools
 Import HTML].  On the Import Wizard popup dialogue, select the File
 radio button and then the Next button.  On the Import Bookmarks File
 file-selection window, navigate to the bookmarks.html file and select
 it.  The rest should be easy.

 
 Thanks I'll have to try when 2.3 or 2.4. I'm determined to try until I 
 get one that works I might try. I hope PDF support return by 2.4.
 

I'm not sure what problem you are having with PDF.  I'm not having any
problems with HTML Web pages that have links to PDF files.  Depending on
the MIME type associated with the files, they open either within my
browser window or in an Adobe Reader window.

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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

2011-08-13 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

PhillipJones wrote:
I think Sky Pilot to be the best Theme ever designed for Mozilla 
Products. I would be using it now, if it was compatible. I like the 
ability to click in the dividers and open and close completely.  
instead of having to pull them down. I use three pane mode, and and 
there are times when I want to pull the window down to mark groups of 
items as read or as spam without reading them.



The was a big flap several years ago, about this they wanted to remove 
two three lines of code to save space, and the current themes have 
this ability killed as a result.  you have to grab the divider  pull 
all the way down then when complete pull back up. a Big time waster.


SkyPilot had this feature where you click on the divider and it would 
open all the way down (hiding the reading window) click on it again ad 
it opens back to original setting.


I want it available for SeaMonkey and FireFox.


Is your Thread-Pane | Message-Body-Pane divider-grippy non-functional on 
Mac, Phillip ?


The left-click open/restore and drag and drop divider-grippies, have 
been and remain, a valued part and parcel of the Linux SeaMonkey Modern 
themed user-experience.
I can't remember any dysfunction in the nightly explosive development 
editions (Well, maybe once a good many years ago, when Neil had to fix 
them).
I can assert that they are still OK in Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; 
rv:8.0a1) Gecko/20110813 SeaMonkey/2.5a1 ID:20110813003053 (Caveat: 
Trunk nightlies destroy stuff.)

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Re: Tab Groups

2011-08-13 Thread flyguy

On 8/13/2011 9:10 PM, PhillipJones wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


flyguy wrote:

I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years
ago.

I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs),
NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that
day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't
have the need for any more grouping than that.


I'm not a fan of tabs I prefer windows.


So you would rather have 37 to 57 (as in flyguy's situation) separate
windows open? Each with a button on your taskbar? How would you keep
track?

It has been weeks, maybe months, since I had more than one browser
window open...


Actually the way I have 2.0.14 setup each new window content replace the
old window connect. Unless for some reason the Web site generate a new
window. And who want 57 *tabs* or windows open at onetime doesn't that
weigh down the application and slow things down.


I'm a glider pilot with a weather obsession. The weather window has 
tabs for airport webcams so I can see the area weather developing miles 
away; satellite loop for our state; NWS forecasts - daily and weekly; 
soaring parameter forecasts; and so on. I refer to it at least hourly.


The News window has the New York Times open, plus the articles from it 
that I've clicked on, and the local paper letters and comments section. 
It's mostly a morning thing, but I might take a break with it in the 
afternoon.


Usually another window is open for product searches, research on 
political and economic events, etc.


And then there is the window for YouTube videos, and other miscellaneous.

Doesn't seem to run any differently whether it's 5 or 50 tabs open on my 
XP, 2 GHz, 4 core Dell with 4 GB of memory. Even the XP, 2 core, 2 GHz, 
3 GB dell laptop that I travel with runs almost as well - and that's 
with two user accounts going.


Of course, the email window is always open, with an email tab and a 
calendar tab. And a couple other applications, too.


I'd be buried in windows without tabs, and now I'm so happy the tabs now 
open next to the originating tab. Seamonkey rocks!


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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

2011-08-13 Thread Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd)


Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:

 The left-click open/restore and drag and drop divider-grippies, 
 have been and remain, a valued part and parcel of the Linux SeaMonkey 
 Modern themed user-experience.

I don't use any themes, but using Seamonkey V2.2 under Windows XP
I certainly have the ability to conceal or disclose a pane by
clicking on the central (dotted, between two triangles) region
of a divider.

However ...  I /thought/ I used to be able to lay out the three
panes (I am speaking Mail/News here) in at least two different
geometries, but trying to achieve that recently on my wife's
modern 16:9 geometry screen, I could no longer find that geometry
setting.  Does it still exist, and if so, could someone please
remind me where to locate it ?

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Re: Seamonkey2 - themes issues

2011-08-13 Thread Sailfish
My bloviated meandering follows what PhillipJones graced us with on 
8/13/2011 9:26 PM:

sean nathan bean wrote:

Sailfish sent me the following::

My bloviated meandering follows what Sailfish graced us with on 8/9/2011
5:56 PM:

My bloviated meandering follows what Bret Busby graced us with on
7/3/2011 9:22 PM:

My unbuntu 8.04 on my old(ish) laptop computer has just upgraded the
Seamonkey to version 2.

It has changed the appearance of Seamonkey, to some silly looking
theme, that is listed as the default theme.

It appears that software developers design software for their own
pleasure, and not for the users.

The Classic theme will not install.

The Littlemonkey theme has some silly looking phallic symbols to
the left of the toolbars.

Is is possible to get a traditional looking theme for Seamonkey 2.x,
so that we can have a decent appearance for Seamonkey, like the
themes from Seamonkey 1 or Netscape?


I've just ported the SM1.x Modern Mozillium theme to SM2.2+. It is
available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ .

Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like
(Race Day and Venerable Modern) as time permits.

Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You
may email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted
most of the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo,
c. If you prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this
response with your email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add
you to my whitelist and send you a confirmation email.


I've just ported the SM1.x Venerable Modern theme to SM2.2+. It is
available on my server, https://www.projectit.com/ when visiting the
site using SeaMonkey 2.2x.

Venerable Modern was one of the original themes for the Mozilla Suite
making its debut at version M18. In many ways, it is one of the most
beautiful themes with its darker violet hues and toolbar buttons. As an
added bonus, incorporated in this theme is a derivative skin named,
Venerable Chrome Modern authored by storm119. The best way of explaining
it is that it is a hybrid of Modern Mozillium and Venerable Modern. To
enable it, click the Subskin link for instructions.

Additionally, I still plan to port the other SeaMonkey themes like (Race
Day and, hopefully, Toy Factory and Sky Pilot Classic) as time permits.

Lastly, I've also updated the Modern Mozillium theme and fixed a number
styling errors or previously unstyled elements.

Fell free to comment back here with any problems or suggestions. You may
email me directly, too, if replying by email, I have blacklisted most of
the popular email sites such as, aol, gmail, hotmail, yahoo, c. If you
prefer to contact me via email, first reply to this response with your
email addy (munged if you prefer) and I will add you to my whitelist and
send you a confirmation email.



just installed Venerable Modern... still like it... greatly appreciate
the theme updates... toy factory was always a fave... but i think i like
more subtlety in my aging years...

sean


sean


I think Sky Pilot to be the best Theme ever designed for Mozilla 
Products. I would be using it now, if it was compatible. I like the 
ability to click in the dividers and open and close completely.  instead 
of having to pull them down. I use three pane mode, and and there are 
times when I want to pull the window down to mark groups of items as 
read or as spam without reading them.



The was a big flap several years ago, about this they wanted to remove 
two three lines of code to save space, and the current themes have this 
ability killed as a result.  you have to grab the divider  pull all the 
way down then when complete pull back up. a Big time waster.


SkyPilot had this feature where you click on the divider and it would 
open all the way down (hiding the reading window) click on it again ad 
it opens back to original setting.


I want it available for SeaMonkey and FireFox.


Phillip, I've enabled splitters collapse/expand on all of my themes.

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Re: Tab Groups

2011-08-13 Thread Ed Mullen

PhillipJones wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

PhillipJones wrote:


flyguy wrote:

I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years
ago.

I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs),
NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that
day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't
have the need for any more grouping than that.


I'm not a fan of tabs I prefer windows.


So you would rather have 37 to 57 (as in flyguy's situation) separate
windows open? Each with a button on your taskbar? How would you keep
track?

It has been weeks, maybe months, since I had more than one browser
window open...


Actually the way I have 2.0.14 setup each new window content replace the
old window connect.


Well, then you don't have more than one window open at once, yes? 
You're just using a single window/instance of the program.  Hey, 
whatever floats your boat but don't tell us you use multiple windows and 
then tell us you use a single window!  Besides, the program allows you 
to easily NOT use tabs so stop carping about a feature that most love 
that you happen to hate.  It's old news.  And it's no impact on you: 
Just don't use it!  Sheesh.


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Re: Group of tabs does not open when clicked on in 2.2

2011-08-13 Thread Barry Edwin Gilmour

flyguy wrote:
In 2.1, I could click on a groupmark in Personal Toolbar, and all 
the tabs in it would open. Now, clicking on it shows me a list of the 
tabs, and the option to open them all at the bottom of the list. I can 
also right-click and get the open all more easily. But is there 
setting that simply opens all the tabs like previously?
Nope. That is it! menu item Open All in Tabs after you get to scroll 
way, way down the bottom of the Group list  - This was  the best 
workaround due to a limitation carried over from FireFox's Gecko codebase.

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