Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-09 Thread David E. Ross
On 10/8/11 1:15 PM, sean nathan bean wrote:
 Daniel sent me the following::
 sean nathan bean wrote:
 Daniel sent me the following::
 Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:
 Ant wrote:

 Snip


 I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch
 is.

 Edit-Preferences-Advanced-HTTP Networking.

 HTH


 sorta useless until there's a way to quit advertizing compatibility of
 Firefox 2.0

 sean



 To quit advertizing compatibility of Firefox 2.0 simply untick the
 spot on the HTTP Networking page.

 QED!

 
 well duh... guess i need to be more specific... why does SM still 
 advertize compatibility of Firefox 2.0 ... when Firefox is now at 
 version 6,7 or 8?
 
 to date i haven't found an about:config entry to advertize the latest 
 Firefox versions... as opposed to the ancient versions...
 
 iiuc,
 
 sean

Have you tried checking the checkbox?  Your comment indicate the answer
is No.

I just now checked the checkbox (which I normally leave unchecked).  The
result is the following UA string:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923
Firefox/7.0 SeaMonkey/2.4
NOTE CAREFULLY:  It's advertising compatibility with Firefox 7.0, not 2.0.

I much prefer
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/7.0 (not really)
or (better)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110923
SeaMonkey/2.4, NOT Firefox/7.0

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Resource consumption comaprison

2011-10-09 Thread jim
win xp sp2  

I normally run two browsers.  I doubt that this is unusual.

Between the following, which do you find the most resource intensive?  The
least resource intensive?

1.  Seamonkey (2.2)
2. Firefox (7.2)
3.  IE8
4. Google Chrome (latest version, 10/11)
5. (Other you find pertinent to mention?)

jim

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Re: Can Google-Analytics be bypassed?

2011-10-09 Thread Daniel

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

d...@kd4e.com sent me the following::

Just getting back to this ...

Is the file to which this is added /etc/hosts ?

Is everything in there blocked?

Thanks!

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

# block google ads. add additional servers as found.
127.0.0.1 adwords.google.com
127.0.0.1 pagead.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googlesyndication.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1www.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 apps5.oingo.com
127.0.0.1 gcc-08.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1www.google-analytics.com
127.0.0.1 ssl.google-analytics.com
# google urchintracker
127.0.0.1 urchin.com
127.0.0.1www.urchin.com
127.0.0.1 domains.googlesyndication.com #[Parking Service]
127.0.0.1 adservices.google.com
127.0.0.1 video-stats.video.google.com
127.0.0.1 4.afs.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 feedads.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 imageads.googleadservices.com #[Tracking.Cookie]
127.0.0.1 pagead2.googleadservices.com
127.0.0.1 partner.googleadservices.com





i know this is an old thread but... fwiw the Ghostery addon seems to be
blocking all of this for me... anyone else have likes/complaints about
it?

sean




I have Ghostery on board...often see it telling me it's blocked stuff.

Daniel



as do i, and i regularly see it blocking google analytics ...

sean




Yeap, on lots of sites.

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Re: AllState Web Site

2011-10-09 Thread Daniel

sean Nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

sean nathan bean wrote:

Daniel sent me the following::

Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote:

Ant wrote:


Snip



I don't know where the advertise FireFox compatability switch
is.


Edit-Preferences-Advanced-HTTP Networking.

HTH



sorta useless until there's a way to quit advertizing compatibility of
Firefox 2.0

sean




To quit advertizing compatibility of Firefox 2.0 simply untick the
spot on the HTTP Networking page.

QED!



well duh... guess i need to be more specific... why does SM still
advertize compatibility of Firefox 2.0 ... when Firefox is now at
version 6,7 or 8?

to date i haven't found an about:config entry to advertize the latest
Firefox versions... as opposed to the ancient versions...

iiuc,

sean



Sean, where are you getting this Firefox 2.0 idea from??? Your User 
Agent is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:7.0) Gecko/20110922 
Firefox/7.0 SeaMonkey/2.4


Notice you're telling me Firefox 7.0

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Re: Resource consumption comaprison

2011-10-09 Thread Daniel

jim wrote:

win xp sp2  

I normally run two browsers.  I doubt that this is unusual.

Between the following, which do you find the most resource intensive?  The
least resource intensive?

1.  Seamonkey (2.2)
2. Firefox (7.2)
3.  IE8
4. Google Chrome (latest version, 10/11)
5. (Other you find pertinent to mention?)

jim



For me, personally, I don't find any of the named browsers resource 
intensive at all, because I don't, now, use any of them!


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Re: Resource consumption comaprison

2011-10-09 Thread WLS

jim wrote:

win xp sp2  

I normally run two browsers.  I doubt that this is unusual.

Between the following, which do you find the most resource intensive?  The
least resource intensive?

1.  Seamonkey (2.2)
2. Firefox (7.2)
3.  IE8
4. Google Chrome (latest version, 10/11)
5. (Other you find pertinent to mention?)

jim



What problem are you seeking support for?

Can't test Firefox 7.2. It doesn't exist (just like 6.0.02 doesn't 
exist, darn typo) :)


I currently have SeaMonkey 2.5b2 and Firefox 8.0b1 open, using 1.4% CPU, 
108.8 MB of memory for SM and 96.4 MB of memory for Fx.


Removed Chromium, don't have any IE, not testing Konquerer or Epiphany.

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Re: Towards an alternative way forward for Seamonkey

2011-10-09 Thread Keith Whaley

Excellent analogy, Sir Phillip!  :-)
Pertinent, accurate and most amusing all at the same time.
Thanks,
keith whaley


Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote:



MCBastos wrote:


To draw a very simple parallel, there's very little haste and stress
involved in getting on the subway to travel cross-town... because if I
miss this train, there will be another a few minutes later, and you can
get on it with minimum effort and little lost time. Getting on a plane,
OTOH, involves quite a lot of worry and rushing around, because if I
miss the plane, there might take hours to get on another one, with
considerable annoyance, expenses and lost time.



Well, let's explore your metaphor further -- let's say you were used
to catching the 20:14, which stopped everywhere you wanted it to,
didn't stop at strange, out-of-the-way, stations, was reliable,
punctual and got you to the office on time. Then the 20:14 was
cancelled (well, not really cancelled, but all the station staff
told you that it wasn't really safe any more, even though it was
exactly the same train you had been using for months), and they
really thought that you should start taking the 22:00 instead.
So you did what they recommended, and strange things started to
happen; it no longer stopped everywhere it used to, stopped at
strange, out-of-the-way stations that no-one had ever heard of,
your luggage would frequently disappear without trace, you
were automatically sat alongside a bunch of other folk you'd
never seen before instead of having a carriage to yourself,
and various other oddities occurred that forced you to wonder
what exactly was so wrong with the good old 20:14. And then
the 22:00 was cancelled, and replaced by the 23:00, which had
its own set of quirks, and then there was the 24:00 and the 24:10
which replaced it shortly afterwards, and all the staff kept
assuring you that this regular change of timetable was in
everyone's interest, and they didn't mind working their @rses
off so that new timetables could be published every six weeks,
and so on.

And then someone had a brainwave -- look, he said, just because
the rail network keeps introducing new trains doesn't mean that
we commuters have to follow suit; why don't we just agree amongst
ourselves that /our/ timetable will change only every six months ?
Sure there'll be trains that are faster than ours, painted in
prettier, more psychedelic colours, with go-faster stripes and
all the bells and whistles you could possibly ask for, but our
trains will have one great advantage : we will have dry-run them
for a minimum of three months before we let a single commuter loose
on them; they'll be thoroughly way-tested by our dedicated band
of better-testers (as we call them in the rail trade), we'll
make sure that all the rough edges to the seats that were there
when they left the factory have been removed, we'll make sure
that the train stops where /our/ passengers want it to stop,
and that it sails through those crazy stations that the rail
network think it ought to, and so on.

Now wouldn't you, Mr Bastos, think twice before willingly agree
to catch a different train every six weeks, and wouldn't you
perhaps prefer to catch a slightly slower train in the the sure
and certain knowledge that it would be /reliable/, would manifest
no unexpected behaviour, and even if it wasn't 100% bullet-proof
against the latest weapons of micro-destruction (WMDs, as they
are called in the trade, or Viruses and Trojan Horses, as it
is rumoured they were once known), there was still a 99.999%
probability that you would arrive safely, particularly because
you long ago invested in some good, modern, anti-WMD protection
that made sure that your train would almost never encounter those
WMDs in the first place ?

The defence rests, m'lud.


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Re: changing folder sequence

2011-10-09 Thread Keith Whaley

Keith Whaley wrote:

MCBastos wrote:

On 08/10/2011 20:53, Keith Whaley told the world:

I have several folders under my Inbox folder.
Since I upgraded from 2.0.14, to 2.4.1, some of my folders have changed
position. I don't like that.
I want to switch them back to the old order.

Who can tell me how to move a folder to a different place in the
sequence?

SM 2.4.1
Mac OS 10.6.8

Thanks, keith whaley



Try using the Folderpane Tools extension:

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/seamonkey/addon/folderpane-tools/


 Thanks, MC

 keith

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Re: Resource consumption comaprison

2011-10-09 Thread Paul

jim wrote:

win xp sp2  

I normally run two browsers.  I doubt that this is unusual.

Between the following, which do you find the most resource intensive?  The
least resource intensive?

1.  Seamonkey (2.2)
2. Firefox (7.2)
3.  IE8
4. Google Chrome (latest version, 10/11)
5. (Other you find pertinent to mention?)

jim


IE8 is integrated with the O/S and can't really
be compared that way.
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upgrading seamonket 1.1.19

2011-10-09 Thread Joseph Farruggio

Joe wrote:
Can i go directly from seamonkey 1.1.19 to SEamonkey 2.4.1. Thanks for 
your help

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Re: Resource consumption comaprison

2011-10-09 Thread Robert Kaiser

jim schrieb:

1.  Seamonkey (2.2)
2. Firefox (7.2)
3.  IE8
4. Google Chrome (latest version, 10/11)
5. (Other you find pertinent to mention?)


None of those are the latest versions, so comparing those versions isn't 
that useful - but at least IE8 is right in that it's the latest for XP. 
SeaMonkey 2.4.1 is current, as are Firefox 7.0.1 (7.2 does and will not 
exist) and Chrome is already at 14, IIRC.


From all I heard, Chrome 14 probably uses the most resources of those, 
while IE8 and Firefox 7 probably use fewest, with the downside that IE8 
lacks a lot of the modern Internet features all of the others have (and 
IE9 also partially has).


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Re: upgrading seamonket 1.1.19

2011-10-09 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 09/10/2011 18:07, Joseph Farruggio told the world:
 Joe wrote:
 Can i go directly from seamonkey 1.1.19 to SEamonkey 2.4.1. Thanks for 
 your help

I don't think this is recommended. The best procedure would be to
upgrade to Seamonkey 2.0.x first, and then go to 2.4.1.

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Relocating Profiles

2011-10-09 Thread rob

Is it possible to relocate Sea Monkey Profiles on Windows XP?

Can I simply copy the profile to an new location, delete the old profile 
and create a new profile in the new location?

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Re: upgrading seamonket 1.1.19

2011-10-09 Thread Paul Bergsagel

Joseph Farruggio wrote:

Joe wrote:
Can i go directly from seamonkey 1.1.19 to SEamonkey 2.4.1. Thanks for
your help
Since several users have reported that they have lost bookmarks or mail 
after an upgrade it is important and wise that you perform a full backup 
of your profile folder before you make the upgrade.


It is always better to be safe than sorry. :)
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Re: upgrading seamonket 1.1.19

2011-10-09 Thread Ray Davison

Joseph Farruggio wrote:

Joe wrote:
Can i go directly from seamonkey 1.1.19 to SEamonkey 2.4.1.


Yes.  Create a copy of your 1119 profile with a name you will know as SM 
2X after sql.  Then tell 2.4.1 to use that profile and it will update it 
as necessary.


Ray

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Re: Relocating Profiles

2011-10-09 Thread WLS

rob wrote:

Is it possible to relocate Sea Monkey Profiles on Windows XP?

Can I simply copy the profile to an new location, delete the old profile
and create a new profile in the new location?


You probably can, but you might accomplish it easier with the standalone 
profile manager.


http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/utilities/profilemanager/1.0/

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Re: Relocating Profiles

2011-10-09 Thread rob

On 10/9/2011 8:48 PM, WLS wrote:

rob wrote:

Is it possible to relocate Sea Monkey Profiles on Windows XP?

Can I simply copy the profile to an new location, delete the old profile
and create a new profile in the new location?


You probably can, but you might accomplish it easier with the standalone
profile manager.

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/utilities/profilemanager/1.0/


Thanks. I wasn't aware of that utility. I'll try it out.
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Re: Relocating Profiles

2011-10-09 Thread Philip Chee
On Sun, 09 Oct 2011 18:21:31 -0500, rob wrote:
 Is it possible to relocate Sea Monkey Profiles on Windows XP?
 
 Can I simply copy the profile to an new location, delete the old profile 
 and create a new profile in the new location?

You can relocate your profile(s). What you can't do is to relocate the
file that tells SeaMonkey where your profiles are (profiles.ini).

Things get more complicated if you also have mail and news accounts and
your profile is rather old and crusty and inherited from the Mozilla 1.6
or Netscape 7 days.

Phil

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