Re: movemail bug on Linux

2012-04-30 Thread Peter Nieman

On 29/04/12 20:36, Jens Hatlak wrote:

Peter Nieman wrote:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=748593


This will most probably be fixed in SM 2.9.1 (ETA tomorrow).


Great! Thanks a lot!

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Re: Ordering Email Accounts

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel

Larry S. wrote:


Thank you--your insight is always helpful!


I try, Larry, I try!!
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Re: Ordering Email Accounts

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel

Jim Taylor wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 28/04/2012 13:10:

Larry S. wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 12-04-12 5:19 PM, Frosted Flake wrote:

Is there some way to set the order that email (and News)
accounts are
displayed by SeaMonkey? If so, how?


You can install an extension that will add that functionality. It is
called Folderpane Tools
https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/folderpane-tools/.



Alternatively, Flakey, if you are comfortable working in
about:config,
search for the property mail.accountmanager.accounts, change the
order
of the accounts listed under the value, re-start SM and away you go.


Hmmm . . . How do I do that? Just change the numbers on the
accounts, or
physically rearrange them? I.e., is the name Account fixed to the
account, or is the number?

Thanks in advance!


Larry, the sequence the accounts are in now is determined by the
order of the Accountx sequence now in the
mail.accountmanager.accounts pref.

On my Mail  Newsgroups screen, my accounts, in order, are Mail,
Local Folder, Albury News server, Mozilla News server, UseNet
Account1, UseNet Account2.

In Prefs, the mail.accountmanager.accounts Value lists the accounts
as account1, account6, account4, account7, account8, account12.

So, Mail is account1, Local Folder is account6, Albury News is
account4, Mozilla is account7, UseNet Account1 is Account 8 and
UseNet Account2 is actually account12. The missing accountx numbers
are for accounts that I did have, e.g. secnews.netscape.com, but
which I no longer have.

And, as you can see, I've changed the sequence of the accounts such
as account6 (Local Folders) appears before account4 (Albury News).

So, if you change the order of the accountx's in the
mail.accountmanager.accounts pref and then re-start SM, the order of
the accounts in the Mail  Newsgroups page will change.

To change the order, double click on the value and cut-and-paste,
remembering to look after the comma's.


I don't believe what your are saying ... this is my case completely cray.
-
I see:
- Scarlet
- Swing
- Mortehan
- Gmail
- Local Folders
- NEWSatSCARLET
- news.mozilla.org

mail.accountmanager.accounts value list is:
account1,account2,account3,account4,account5,account6,account7

BUT ... this is not the order i see on the left pane...

account1 is server1 is Scarlet
account2 is server2 is Local Folders (instead of Swing)
account3 is server3 is NEWSatSCARLET (instead of Mortehan)
account4 is server4 is Swing (instead of Gmail)
account5 is server5 is news.mozilla.org (instead of Local Folders)
account6 is server6 is Mortehan (instead of NEWSatSCARLET)
account7 is server7 is Gmail (instead of news.mozilla.org)

Therefore the order on the screen is totally different of the list order:
account1,account2,account3,account4,account5,account6,account7


If SeaMonkey is the same as Thunderbird the types of accounts are in a
certain order that you can not change. Changes to
mail.accountmanager.accounts will change the order of accounts within a
type group, but not the order of the type groups. This is my
understanding of how it works:

The default account is always first, Email accounts and RSS accounts are
always above the Local Folders, and Local Folders are always above
Newsgroup accounts.

Jim


Jim, you could well be right (what do I know??), but why then, in Rays 
listing above, is Gmail (a mail account??) last and Swing (which he says 
is in place of Gmail (a mail account)) listed as server4 after a news 
account??


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Re: home page

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel

Smiles wrote:

I have set my homepage to a web page on my d drive when I open SeaMonkey
it opens to the correct file but if I close the browser window and
select from a web page from an email close it then reopen it jumps to
that page as apposed to my homepage

is there a setting I missed to have it default always to the homepage

thanks


Smiles, when you click a link to some webpage from an e-mail, why would 
you expect SM to not open the webpage you've just clicked on??


Or are you expecting SM to open your homepage (from your hard-disk) *and 
then* open the linked page (in another tab or page)??


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Re: NewsGrp Message display issue

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel

Rickles wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rickles wrote:


The only newsgroup I subscribe to is this one, and everyone
top-posts. And every top-post is only shown in light grey font. A
real pain since my background is also light grey (easier on the eyes
than white). Signature block delimiters don't appear to be part of
the issue.


Hate to break it to you, but most people here bottom-post, as you did.


How stupid am I, to have looked at the messages in this newsgroup, esp.
at prior-post texts at the top, and then say top-posted. I should have
more correctly said that the previous-post text, **above the newest
post** was in shown in the light grey font.

Yes, and I bottom-post in this NG as well. Is there such a thing as
vertical dyslexia? :)

Thanks for pointing that out.


O.K., Rickles, forgetting the top posting stuff, are you saying that as 
you read this reply of mine, here, my text is in light grey *and* your 
background is (user-set) light grey??


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OT old SM versions (was:- Re: Trouble with FlashPlayer 11)

2012-04-30 Thread Daniel

David E. Ross wrote:

On 4/29/12 5:13 PM, Yaakov Nahum Ben-Avraham - Яаков Нахум Бен-Аврахам -
יעקב נחום בן אברהם wrote:

I tried installing Flashplayer 11 in
SeaMonkey 2.1b3 as suggested by

   http://plugindoc.mozdev.org/linux.html

This does NOT work - the spiral goes
around in the black YouTube display
for a second or so, then vanishes, and
there is no video or sound whatsoever.

Any ideas what is wrong?

   - Yaakov



1.  Remove any existing installations of Flash.

2.  Go tohttp://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html/

3.  Download the complete installer file for your appropriate system (32
vs 64 bit, Linux).

4.  Install it.

Note, however, that the current version of SeaMonkey is 2.9, not 2.1b3.
  The latter was a development version not intended for end users.



David, it seems SM 2.1b3 has made its way onto a Linux distribution 
disk, It's been mentioned here-abouts in a couple of posts!


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Re: home page

2012-04-30 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Daniel wrote:

 Smiles wrote:
 I have set my homepage to a web page on my d drive when I open
 SeaMonkey it opens to the correct file but if I close the browser
 window and select from a web page from an email close it then reopen it
 jumps to that page as apposed to my homepage

 is there a setting I missed to have it default always to the homepage
 
 Smiles, when you click a link to some webpage from an e-mail, why would
 you expect SM to not open the webpage you've just clicked on??
 
 Or are you expecting SM to open your homepage (from your hard-disk) *and
 then* open the linked page (in another tab or page)??

No, I think Smiles means:  When I click on a link it opens in the 
browser and then when I close the browser and reopen it, that same link 
has now been reset as the homepage.

Other than checking the settings for the previously mentioned (•) Last 
page visited I have no other advice. That seems the issue.

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Re: Composer doesn't support HTML5?

2012-04-30 Thread NoOp
On 04/29/2012 05:44 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 29/04/2012 21:10, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the
 world:
 
 If he was the NVu guy, why did he change the name? (although I rather 
 prefer Bluegriffon to nVu).
 
 I don't know the exact reasoning, but there are a few likely possibilities:
 
 1. BlueGriffon is an entirely different program. NVu was built on the
 old Mozilla Composer codebase, and depended on a (patched) old version
 of Gecko. BlueGriffon was built from the ground up, to use the
 most-current version of Gecko without patches. It's possible that
 Glazman wanted to dissociate the new product from NVu due to those
 differences.
 
 2. Glazman had an sponsor for NVu -- the old Linspire Linux distro. It's
 possible that Linspire and their successors, not Glazman, hold the
 rights to the NVu trademark.
 
 3. BlueGriffon, having no sponsor, uses a different business model --
 the so-called freemium system: basic package is free, add-ons are
 for-pay. Since NVu was totally free, another possible reason for
 changing the brand was not to carry the expectations of it being totally
 free.
 

Not to mention that BlueGriffon and BlueFish support HTML5  kompozer 
Nvu do not...

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Re: Composer doesn't support HTML5?

2012-04-30 Thread WLS
On 04/30/2012 12:18 PM, NoOp wrote:
 On 04/29/2012 05:44 PM, MCBastos wrote:
 Interviewed by CNN on 29/04/2012 21:10, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the
 world:

 If he was the NVu guy, why did he change the name? (although I rather 
 prefer Bluegriffon to nVu).

 I don't know the exact reasoning, but there are a few likely possibilities:

 1. BlueGriffon is an entirely different program. NVu was built on the
 old Mozilla Composer codebase, and depended on a (patched) old version
 of Gecko. BlueGriffon was built from the ground up, to use the
 most-current version of Gecko without patches. It's possible that
 Glazman wanted to dissociate the new product from NVu due to those
 differences.

 2. Glazman had an sponsor for NVu -- the old Linspire Linux distro. It's
 possible that Linspire and their successors, not Glazman, hold the
 rights to the NVu trademark.

 3. BlueGriffon, having no sponsor, uses a different business model --
 the so-called freemium system: basic package is free, add-ons are
 for-pay. Since NVu was totally free, another possible reason for
 changing the brand was not to carry the expectations of it being totally
 free.

 
 Not to mention that BlueGriffon and BlueFish support HTML5  kompozer 
 Nvu do not...
 

So does my preferred Web Editor.

http://www.aptana.com/

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Re: Adjusting filters automatically - more data

2012-04-30 Thread Marisa Ciceran

Jay O'Brien wrote:

More, perhaps useful data for whomever will do a fix to this problem.

I had another occurrence of filters changing, and afterwards I looked at the 
msgFilterRules.dat file.

The msgFilterRules.dat file is unchanged up to a location in the file. After 
that location, every filter in the file is pointed to the same message folder, 
overwriting previously correct data. The first time this happened to me, the 
corruption started only a few filters into the file; the second time only about 
half of the msgFilterRules.dat file was affected.

Jay O'Brien


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Adjusting filters automatically
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:16:30 -0700
From: Jay O'Brienjayobr...@att.net
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

I experienced the same problem; all of my more than 250 message filters were 
changed (I don't know what caused it) to point to the same mail folder. 
Fortunately I do a synchronization with another computer every night, using 
Goodsync, so I was able to retrieve yesterday's copy of msgFilterRules.dat and 
get back to normal. Perhaps SM could store several iterations of this file and 
perhaps a selection to let the user revert to an old copy? Until this is fixed, 
I will save a copy of msgFilterRules.dat daily to be on the safe side.

Jay O'Brien

 Original Message 
Subject: Re: Adjusting filters automatically
Date: Sun, 08 Apr 2012 11:26:29 +0200
From: Jens Hatlakj...@junetz.de
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

It turns out it was worse than I thought: EVERY single ONE of the more
than 50 filters I have for that account has been redirected to that
single folder! What a major PITA!


I guess you're seeing bug 735940. TB spun a 11.0.1 release including a
fix for that, we didn't (and AFAIK we're not planning to do so, but
would probably include it if we had to do an oilspill release with
security fixes for 2.8). It'll be fixed in 2.9, though.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=735940#c39

HTH

Jens

If SM 2.9 was intended to fix this problem, it has missed something. 
Every time I open SM and go to mails, the program disables some filters. 
It seems to choose them randomly. Is anyone else experiencing this?


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Re: NewsGrp Message display issue

2012-04-30 Thread Rickles

Daniel wrote:

Rickles wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rickles wrote:


The only newsgroup I subscribe to is this one, and everyone
top-posts. And every top-post is only shown in light grey font. A
real pain since my background is also light grey (easier on the eyes
than white). Signature block delimiters don't appear to be part of
the issue.


Hate to break it to you, but most people here bottom-post, as you did.


How stupid am I, to have looked at the messages in this newsgroup, esp.
at prior-post texts at the top, and then say top-posted. I should have
more correctly said that the previous-post text, **above the newest
post** was in shown in the light grey font.

Yes, and I bottom-post in this NG as well. Is there such a thing as
vertical dyslexia? :)

Thanks for pointing that out.


O.K., Rickles, forgetting the top posting stuff, are you saying that as
you read this reply of mine, here, my text is in light grey *and* your
background is (user-set) light grey??

No, that's not quite right.  Your text is black and not indented at all, 
since it was the most-current post.  What I *had* been seeing was all of 
the other previous posts the same light grey as my background (which 
means it was invisible till I looked for it), and those previous posts 
were indented by dark-grey vertical bars at the left window edge.


However, since I manually changed the version value in the 'install.rdf' 
file for the add-on, I was able to reinstall and it appears to be 
working normally.

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Re: Ordering Email Accounts

2012-04-30 Thread Jim Taylor

Daniel wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 28/04/2012 13:10:


Snip.


I don't believe what your are saying ... this is my case completely
cray.
-
I see:
- Scarlet
- Swing
- Mortehan
- Gmail
- Local Folders
- NEWSatSCARLET
- news.mozilla.org

mail.accountmanager.accounts value list is:
account1,account2,account3,account4,account5,account6,account7

BUT ... this is not the order i see on the left pane...

account1 is server1 is Scarlet
account2 is server2 is Local Folders (instead of Swing)
account3 is server3 is NEWSatSCARLET (instead of Mortehan)
account4 is server4 is Swing (instead of Gmail)
account5 is server5 is news.mozilla.org (instead of Local Folders)
account6 is server6 is Mortehan (instead of NEWSatSCARLET)
account7 is server7 is Gmail (instead of news.mozilla.org)

Therefore the order on the screen is totally different of the list
order:
account1,account2,account3,account4,account5,account6,account7


If SeaMonkey is the same as Thunderbird the types of accounts are in a
certain order that you can not change. Changes to
mail.accountmanager.accounts will change the order of accounts within a
type group, but not the order of the type groups. This is my
understanding of how it works:

The default account is always first, Email accounts and RSS accounts
are always above the Local Folders, and Local Folders are always above
Newsgroup accounts.

Jim


Jim, you could well be right (what do I know??), but why then, in Rays
listing above, is Gmail (a mail account??) last and Swing (which he
says is in place of Gmail (a mail account)) listed as server4 after a
news account??



Maybe I misunderstand his post, but it looks consistent with what
I said.  If his order on the screen is:

 I see:
 - Scarlet
 - Swing
 - Mortehan
 - Gmail
 - Local Folders
 - NEWSatSCARLET
 - news.mozilla.org

His 4 mail accounts (I'm assuming they are all mail, he didn't say) 
are first (in the order they are listed in 
mail.accountmanager.accounts), then local folders, then his

news accounts in the order they are listed in mail.accountmanger.

Jim

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Re: NewsGrp Message display issue

2012-04-30 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rickles wrote:


No, that's not quite right. Your text is black and not indented at all,
since it was the most-current post. What I *had* been seeing was all of
the other previous posts the same light grey as my background (which
means it was invisible till I looked for it), and those previous posts
were indented by dark-grey vertical bars at the left window edge.

However, since I manually changed the version value in the 'install.rdf'
file for the add-on, I was able to reinstall and it appears to be
working normally.


Another option worth looking into is here:

Edit | Preferences | Mail  Newsgroups | Message Display
...
Settings for quoted messages:
Color: [Gray]

If you choose a contrasting color, that should solve it.

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Re: Ordering Email Accounts

2012-04-30 Thread Ray_Net

Jim Taylor wrote, On 30/04/2012 21:27:

Daniel wrote:

Jim Taylor wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 28/04/2012 13:10:


Snip.


I don't believe what your are saying ... this is my case completely
cray.
-
I see:
- Scarlet
- Swing
- Mortehan
- Gmail
- Local Folders
- NEWSatSCARLET
- news.mozilla.org

mail.accountmanager.accounts value list is:
account1,account2,account3,account4,account5,account6,account7

BUT ... this is not the order i see on the left pane...

account1 is server1 is Scarlet
account2 is server2 is Local Folders (instead of Swing)
account3 is server3 is NEWSatSCARLET (instead of Mortehan)
account4 is server4 is Swing (instead of Gmail)
account5 is server5 is news.mozilla.org (instead of Local Folders)
account6 is server6 is Mortehan (instead of NEWSatSCARLET)
account7 is server7 is Gmail (instead of news.mozilla.org)

Therefore the order on the screen is totally different of the list
order:
account1,account2,account3,account4,account5,account6,account7


If SeaMonkey is the same as Thunderbird the types of accounts are in a
certain order that you can not change. Changes to
mail.accountmanager.accounts will change the order of accounts within a
type group, but not the order of the type groups. This is my
understanding of how it works:

The default account is always first, Email accounts and RSS accounts
are always above the Local Folders, and Local Folders are always above
Newsgroup accounts.

Jim


Jim, you could well be right (what do I know??), but why then, in Rays
listing above, is Gmail (a mail account??) last and Swing (which he
says is in place of Gmail (a mail account)) listed as server4 after a
news account??



Maybe I misunderstand his post, but it looks consistent with what
I said.  If his order on the screen is:

 I see:
 - Scarlet
 - Swing
 - Mortehan
 - Gmail
 - Local Folders
 - NEWSatSCARLET
 - news.mozilla.org

His 4 mail accounts (I'm assuming they are all mail, he didn't say) 
are first (in the order they are listed in 
mail.accountmanager.accounts), then local folders, then his

news accounts in the order they are listed in mail.accountmanger.

Jim

You are correct, i have 4 mails accounts and 2 news accounts(their names 
begins with 'news')

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Re: Composer doesn't support HTML5?

2012-04-30 Thread PhillipJones

WLS wrote:

On 04/30/2012 12:18 PM, NoOp wrote:

On 04/29/2012 05:44 PM, MCBastos wrote:

Interviewed by CNN on 29/04/2012 21:10, Beauregard T. Shagnasty told the
world:


If he was the NVu guy, why did he change the name? (although I rather
prefer Bluegriffon to nVu).


I don't know the exact reasoning, but there are a few likely possibilities:

1. BlueGriffon is an entirely different program. NVu was built on the
old Mozilla Composer codebase, and depended on a (patched) old version
of Gecko. BlueGriffon was built from the ground up, to use the
most-current version of Gecko without patches. It's possible that
Glazman wanted to dissociate the new product from NVu due to those
differences.

2. Glazman had an sponsor for NVu -- the old Linspire Linux distro. It's
possible that Linspire and their successors, not Glazman, hold the
rights to the NVu trademark.

3. BlueGriffon, having no sponsor, uses a different business model --
the so-called freemium system: basic package is free, add-ons are
for-pay. Since NVu was totally free, another possible reason for
changing the brand was not to carry the expectations of it being totally
free.



Not to mention that BlueGriffon and BlueFish support HTML5  kompozer
Nvu do not...



So does my preferred Web Editor.

http://www.aptana.com/


DreamWeaver CS5.5 also handles HTML5 as well as RapidWeaver and Sandvox.

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SM 2.9.1...interesting...

2012-04-30 Thread Rufus
...just installed and launched SM 2.9.1 Mac.  For some reason I didn't 
get the successfully installed welcome splash that one usually gets 
with a new installation/first launch - for launch of either of two 
Profiles.


About SM does show that I have SM 2.9.1 installed, and it checked my 
Add-on compatibility at launch...so I guess everything is OK...


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