Re: Message filters are disabled

2012-06-10 Thread Marisa Ciceran

Bertrand,

Are you saying that it is a big bug that is not resolved but is still 
being worked on? I am not a teckie, unfortunately, but can I be of any 
help?  I've upgraded to SM 2.10, and the email messages filters problem 
continues.


My main computer is a Windows XP Professional SP3 updated to a month 
ago. My secondary unit is an laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium - a 
disastrous program which crashed several times, so it now has minimal 
programs installed, and rarely use it. I have activated the SM 
synchronizer feature on the two computers and not bothered to activate 
any message filters on the laptop Win7 installation. Rather, I've 
checked that emails downloaded to the laptop remain on the server for 
the final download to the desktop. Could there be a clue in what I have 
just described?


Thanks for your reply.

Marisa

denewton wrote:

Marisa Ciceran a écrit :

Every time I start SeaMonkey 2.9.1 and go to mail, message filters are
randomly disabled. This problem began with 2.8.x when the results werea
bit different. Before, instead of disabling the message filters, the
messages related to various different filters would all be redirected to
a single unrelated folder or else were sent to the junk folder. Both of
these other conditions that I mentioned no longer occur since 2.9.1, but
the outright disabling of the filters persists and is very bothersome.

So far, I have not detected no particular pattern. At times it is only
one or two filters that are affected, at other times many.

The discussion of this problem was dropped in this forum. Is there is a
solution or workaround that I missed? I would really appreciate clues on
a resolution.

Thanks,

Marisa

Hello
this bug is describe in two bug in bugzilla : bug 618527 and 594756.
That is till the 2.0.7 version and that is on the actual version.
Before that was from times to times, in 2.9.1 that is each times...
the only solution is to get on filtres and select all and execute all.
That is a big bug because we can't dispatch the mails on their folders
automaticly.
Sinserly
Bertrand
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Re: QUESTION

2012-06-10 Thread Marisa Ciceran


W3BNR wrote:

On 6/8/2012 4:12 AM Marisa Ciceran submitted the following:

Never has worked for me, either.

Marisa

P.S. It is not a stupid question.

W3BNR wrote:

On 6/1/2012 10:56 AM Charles Siracuse submitted the following:

  STUPID QUESTION #2-Does anybody have the coupons.com printer
software working with seamonkey?

From the lack of replies it you look like the readers of this group are like 
you
and me - it don't work with SeaMonkey - never has (at least not here).




You're right - it is NOT a stupid question.

coupons.com response to my inquiry:

You mentioned Seamonkey, this browser is not supported.

You may use Firefox, Internet Explorer, or Chrome with our software in Windows.
Any of these browsers should work

Let us know if you are unable to get the Coupon Printer working in one of these
browsers.

Consumer Support
Coupons Inc.

I responded with comments which included the following from someone's webpage:

SeaMonkey is powered by Gecko,the second most-popular layout engine on the
World Wide Web, after Trident (used by Internet Explorer for Windows since
version 4), and followed by WebKit (used by Safari  Google Chrome) and Presto
(used by Opera).

Gecko is primarily used in web browsers, the earliest being Netscape 6 and
Mozilla Application Suite (later renamed SeaMonkey). It is also used in other
Mozilla web browser derivatives such as Firefox, Camino, Flock, K-Meleon and the
version of Internet Explorer that runs under Wine.

No reply from supp...@coupons.com
Perhaps others would like to complain to them?

Follow ups to mozillal.general
There's another catch to the coupon.com problem that they won't bother 
to resolve: Spybot Search and Destroy nowadays reads their current 
sofware add-on as probable spyware, so I uninstalled it pronto! Has 
anyone else experience with this?


Marisa






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SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-10 Thread Jochen Roderburg
Now that SM 2.10 has adopted the firefox startup style under Linux, it does
not find its own shared libraries any longer without additional help.

Relevant entry from the 2.10 changes files:
The Linux/Unix wrapper shell script has been removed (bug 722262).

The Bugzilla discussion for bug 722262 mentions such problems
and states also that everything is solved.

But what happens now is:

I have installed SM in /usr1/seamonkey210 and start with
/usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey

XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr1/seamonkey210/libxpcom.so:
libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.

An strace shows that is is looking for libxul.so in /lib and /usr/lib.

Of course it helps then starting it with
LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr1/seamonkey210 /usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey

The corresponding new Thunderbird 13.0 has the same problem
whereas it works already fine for some recent Firefox versions.

Regards, J.Roderburg
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Plugin container for Sea Monkey stopped working (v 2.10)

2012-06-10 Thread Lee
This warning has just popped up in the last couple of days, is anyone 
else having this warning.  Don't know what it effects as it all seems

to be working correctly except for the warning.   Am using Vista.
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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-10 Thread Hartmut Figge
Jochen Roderburg:

I have installed SM in /usr1/seamonkey210 and start with
/usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey

XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /usr1/seamonkey210/libxpcom.so:
libxul.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.

Normally extracting the .tar.bz2 in /usr1/seamonkey210 would create the
subdirectory seamonkey with the content of the .tar.bz2 and SM would be
started with /usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey/seamonkey.

But it is possible to avoid this subdirectory. I have now created
/usr1/seamonkey210 and copied the content of my existing installation of
SM 2.10 from ~/seam/release/2.10/seamonkey to /usr1/seamonkey210.

Calling SM from an xterm gives

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ /usr1/seamonkey210/seamonkey
Document http://www.heise.de/newsticker/ loaded successfully
NOTE: child process received `Goodbye', closing down

SM has started normally. Then i loaded heise und then quit SM with ^q. I
could see no problems. What do you get when issuing this command?

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ ls /usr1/seamonkey210/ | egrep '(seam|libxp)'
libxpcom.so
seamonkey
seamonkey-bin

Hartmut
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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-10 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

[To Jochen Roderburg]
What do you get when issuing this command?

hafi@i5_64 ~ $ ls /usr1/seamonkey210/ | egrep '(seam|libxp)'
libxpcom.so
seamonkey
seamonkey-bin

By the way, it would be much easier for me in the related German NG
de.comm.software.mozilla.misc ;)

Hartmut
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Re: Live Bookmarks

2012-06-10 Thread Erik Jan Meijer
Op maandag 28 mei 2012 22:55:29 UTC+2 schreef Neil het volgende:
 Does anyone use Live Bookmarks? They have been broken for a few months 
 (even betas are now affected) because Firefox rewrote them to improve 
 startup time, and I've very recently landed a frontend patch that will 
 at least get them working again. (They don't show up as 
 unvisited/visited yet, but that's a straightforward enhancement now.) I 
 would appreciate it if people could try them out using tonight's (or 
 possibly last night's) nightly.
 
 Note that there is at least one known issue with the new livemark 
 backend, and that is that you can't open all live bookmark items into 
 tabs from the bookmarks toolbar. (You can from the bookmarks manager, 
 but only by selecting them all, rather than from the live bookmark 
 container.)
 
 -- 
 Warning: May contain traces of nuts.


Today I noticed that the Live Bookmark I have in my bookmark toolbar doesn't 
load or refresh. Also if I try to enter a different URL in the bookmark manager 
window as feed location, that new URL doesn't save, it's reverted back to the 
previous value. So it looks still broken to me..? I'm using Seamonkey 2.10 
(release), haven't used any nightly. Is this still in development versions only?
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Re: Live Bookmarks

2012-06-10 Thread Jens Hatlak

Erik Jan Meijer wrote:

Today I noticed that the Live Bookmark I have in my bookmark toolbar
doesn't load or refresh. Also if I try to enter a different URL in
the bookmark manager window as feed location, that new URL doesn't
save, it's reverted back to the previous value. So it looks still
broken to me..? I'm using Seamonkey 2.10 (release), haven't used any
nightly. Is this still in development versions only?


The fix unfortunately didn't make SM 2.10, cf. Known Issues section of 
the Release Notes.


HTH

Jens

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Re: SM 2.10 under Linux does not find its shared libraries

2012-06-10 Thread Jens Hatlak

Jochen Roderburg wrote:

Now that SM 2.10 has adopted the firefox startup style under Linux, it does
not find its own shared libraries any longer without additional help.


I have no real solution either (you already discovered the 
LD_LIBRARY_PATH workaround), but FYI the main bug for this is

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=723487.

Greetings,

Jens

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.10 released

2012-06-10 Thread Jens Hatlak

Mort wrote:

In my last year's SM, when I wish to file a bookmark, the folder list
appears, and I can then click on, e.g. MUSIC, Newstand, etc. and then
click on OK. In the SM of a few months ago, when I click on file
bookmark, a small area drops down, where I am supposed to choose the
folder name, but many of my folder names are absent. This is most
disconcerting, as my thousands of bookmarks get disorganized and
difficult to locate. Has this been corrected in the newest SM iteration?
I hope so.


The new File Bookmark dialog is a bit different. The folder list is 
collapsed by default, but you can expand it using the button right next 
to the folder list drop-down. Since SM 2.9, this choice persists, i.e. 
the expanded state of the folder list (and the Tags list, plus the 
dialog size and position) is remembered. This is an improvement over 
FF's functionality (which our code was based upon). It just took us some 
time to get there and fix the regression from the migration to 
Places-based bookmarks.


HTH

Jens

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Seamonkey and Ubuntu

2012-06-10 Thread Cruz, Jaime

Still feeling my way around Seamonkey on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.

There is a Mail icon on the top of the Unity screen.  By default, it 
launches Thunderbird.  Since I've uninstalled both Firefox and 
Thunderbird and instead installed Seamonkey via Ubuntuzilla (for some 
odd reason, Seamonkey is NOT recognized in the Ubuntu Software Center) 
that icon does nothing.


Is there some way to get it to launch Seamonkey in Email mode?

Also, I'm trying to use Google Earth to mail a View, and it wants to 
launch the default browser with the mailto:; tag... however, it doesn't 
seem to know what my default browser is.  I tried setting the BROWSER= 
variable in .profile, and rebooted but I find that variable isn't 
getting set.


Next, I manually set the variable from the Terminal, verified that it 
was set, and then launched google-earth from the same terminal session 
and it still didn't work.


Can anyone assist (and use small words because I'm still learning my 
way around Linux).


Thanks in advance,


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Re: Message filters are disabled

2012-06-10 Thread denewton

Marisa Ciceran a écrit :

Bertrand,

Are you saying that it is a big bug that is not resolved but is still
being worked on? I am not a teckie, unfortunately, but can I be of any
help?  I've upgraded to SM 2.10, and the email messages filters problem
continues.

Yes, I know...


My main computer is a Windows XP Professional SP3 updated to a month
ago. My secondary unit is an laptop with Windows 7 Home Premium - a
disastrous program which crashed several times, so it now has minimal
programs installed, and rarely use it. I have activated the SM
synchronizer feature on the two computers and not bothered to activate
any message filters on the laptop Win7 installation. Rather, I've
checked that emails downloaded to the laptop remain on the server for
the final download to the desktop. Could there be a clue in what I have
just described?

I don't have W7 : XP SP3 home only


Thanks for your reply.

Marisa

denewton wrote:

Marisa Ciceran a écrit :

Every time I start SeaMonkey 2.9.1 and go to mail, message filters are
randomly disabled. This problem began with 2.8.x when the results werea
bit different. Before, instead of disabling the message filters, the
messages related to various different filters would all be redirected to
a single unrelated folder or else were sent to the junk folder. Both of
these other conditions that I mentioned no longer occur since 2.9.1, but
the outright disabling of the filters persists and is very bothersome.

So far, I have not detected no particular pattern. At times it is only
one or two filters that are affected, at other times many.

The discussion of this problem was dropped in this forum. Is there is a
solution or workaround that I missed? I would really appreciate clues on
a resolution.

Thanks,

Marisa

Hello
this bug is describe in two bug in bugzilla : bug 618527 and 594756.
That is till the 2.0.7 version and that is on the actual version.
Before that was from times to times, in 2.9.1 that is each times...
the only solution is to get on filtres and select all and execute all.
That is a big bug because we can't dispatch the mails on their folders
automaticly.
Sinserly
Bertrand
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My reply don't give you anything. I can't.
Bertrand

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SeaMonkey's send later.

2012-06-10 Thread Ant

Hello.

Is it me or do some e-mail clients download e-mails that were dated for 
send later and some are dated for send now? I noticed my earlier 
e-mails for send later were dated from those times in some specific 
e-mail clients, but others (e.g., Gmail) get the times that were sent at 
Sent Now.


Thank you in advance. :)
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Re: Deleting cookies

2012-06-10 Thread BL

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Craig wrote:

Craig wrote:

I find the process to edit cookies very difficult now.

What happened to the Delete All Cookies button?


While looking for the highlighting checkbox, I found it.

One might expect it to be on the window Privacy  Security -- Cookies,
but one would be wrong.

It's on the window Privacy  Security. It's under the private data
that's cleared by the Clear Now button. One has to have the Cookies
box checked.


Or else you can set SM to accept only session cookies. Then whenever you
restart SM, all cookies are cleared.



...*except* ones that are set before you select the option and start a
new session.  I've found this to be a very handy way of retaining login
cookies for just the sites I want while limiting other sites to session
only.

For ex: you have a Home page that uses a login cookie.  Login, delete
any cookies not desired, Allow Session cookies only, then immediatly
close SM.  At the start of the next session SM will .



Dang fat fingers...

...*except* ones that are set before you select the option and start a
new session.  I've found this to be a very handy way of retaining login
cookies for just the sites I want while limiting other sites to session
only.

For ex: you have a Home page that uses a login cookie.  Login, delete
any cookies not desired, Allow Session cookies only, then immediately
close SM.  At the start of the next session SM will retain the
previously set login cookie and only allow session cookies from that
point forward.

I've been doing this for years, it's very handy.


Thanks Rufus - Very useful tip
BL

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Re: [SM 2.10 ] bug 736811 Mouse changes to drag cursor without clicking any buttons

2012-06-10 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:
On 06/08/2012 06:22 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:
 NoOp:

I think the screen shots may be important as they show: 1) that the
layout is 'Wide View' (no idea if this makes a difference,
 
 No difference here.

So, prior to getting to that screen, you ensured that you were in :
https://bug736811.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=631240
first. Right?

Partly. To reduce complications i had created only one E-Mail account on
a new test profile. No other configuration.

http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm120611-a.png

You should have done the same on a new profile. If you still see the DD
cursor or not, in each case we would be a step nearer to reproducibility.

  2) Both the email and newsgroup have multiple folders so when
the inbox/newsgroup is selected (screenshot 631242) the 'Name' box is
completely full (Qgiz to m.s.s.seamonkey ).
 
 Took some time for me to understand what you meant with 'Name' box. It
 is not visible here because i do not like tabs in MailNews. *g*

Look at the screenshots - left side: 'Name'. That (to me) is very
obvious. Want a screenshot with a red circle aroung 'Name'? :-)

There is a box above 'Name' and a box below 'Name' on your screenshot.
Both are completely full. And the box above doesn't exist here. ;)

As soon as I select 'm.s.s.seamonkey' the cursor jumps automatically to
the message display/compose box (all white at this time).
 
 When i select m.s.seamonkey with the trackball the cursor and the focus
 remain on m.s.seamonkey in the folderpane. Never have seen another behavior.

So, prior to getting to that screen, you ensured that you were in :
https://bug736811.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=631240
mode first. Right?

Similar on my normal profile, apart from that there are 13 news servers
of which 4 normally are expanded. On my test profile there is only one
E-Mail account. At the moment.

 When i press 'n' the focus jumps to a message in the threadpane which is
 displayed in the messagepane. The cursor is still on the NG.

Hartmut, this is a *Mouse* issue - focus eh?

That was covered here

|When i select m.s.seamonkey with the trackball the cursor and the focus
|remain on m.s.seamonkey in the folderpane. Never have seen another
|behavior.

as an answer to

|As soon as I select 'm.s.s.seamonkey' the cursor jumps automatically to
|the message display/compose box (all white at this time).

The part with the 'n' key was to show the difference between cursor and
focus. I have never seen that the cursor jumps to the 'message
display/compose box' when selecting a NG with the mouse in the folderpane.

 What do you mean with 'message display/compose box'? The messagepane?
 The threadpane? After selecting m.s.seamonkey the threadpane is here

Where do you normaly view your message text

Messagepane.

and or enter text for composition?

Compose window.

The message pane/box that you are reading this in now is just that.

Huh? Messagepane and compose window are different animals. So you have
said, that selecting a NG with the mouse results in selecting a message
in the threadpane, displaying it in the message pane and the cursor is
then in the message pane? Hard to believe.

 What is a 'Subject' box?

https://bug736811.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=631242
Subject

Sigh. You mean the box below the box with the text 'Subject'. The latter
deserves the name 'Subject' box.

|The user then must move the cursor up to the 'Subject' box in order
|to select a subject header.

Translation: the user then must move the cursor to a message in the
threadpane in order to select it. *g*

It is at the seperator line between message window and 'Subject'
window
 
 The separator between the threadpane and the line with the column headers?

More screenshots?

Unambiguous explanations.

NoOp, fixing the bug requires reproducibility. Part of this an exact
definition under which circumstances the bug occurs. It might well be
that my English is not good enough to understand you.

Also, answering in English requires me to have dict.cc open and search
for words. Quite tedious. So i propose that i retire from this thread. ;)

Hartmut
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Re: Java in Seamonkey 2.10?

2012-06-10 Thread NoOp
On 06/07/2012 12:14 PM, NoOp wrote:
...

Craig (+Jens),

 @Craig: I won't have fedora or openSUSE back up until later today. I'll
 try to test then.
 
 @Jens: I did a bit of experimenting this morning and discovered
 (Ubuntu/Debian) that Mozilla Firefox (not the distro version) uses
 mozilla-javaplugin.so only, whereas SeaMonkey (not the distro version)
 does not  requires the system java also to be java-6-openjdk.
 
 For example if I set my system jre to 1.7.0_04:
 
 $ java -version
 java version 1.7.0_04
 Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.7.0_04-b20)
 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 23.0-b21, mixed mode, sharing)
 
 And set my mozilla-javaplugin.so to the same
 
 $ ls -al /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 45 2012-06-07 11:59
 /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so -
 /opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
 
 Firefox (13) picks up  accepts 1.7.0_04, SeaMonkey does not.
 
 If I then set *only* mozilla-javaplugin.so to java-6-openjdk (leaving
 the system version set to 1.7.0_04):
 
 $ sudo update-alternatives --config mozilla-javaplugin.so
 There are 2 choices for the alternative mozilla-javaplugin.so (providing
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so).
 
   SelectionPath
   Priority   Status
 
 * 0/opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
2000  auto mode
   1/opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so
2000  manual mode
   2/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so
   1061  manual mode
 
 Press enter to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number: 2
 update-alternatives: using
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so to provide
 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin.so (mozilla-javaplugin.so) in
 manual mode.
 
 Firefox 13 recognizes the change immediately and now uses java-6-openjdk
 (again leaving the system version set to 1.7.0_04) - SeaMonkey does not.
 
 SeaMonkey *only* accepts java-6-openjdk if I set the system *and* the
 mozilla-javaplugin.so to java-6-openjdk:
 
 $ sudo update-alternatives --config java
 There are 4 choices for the alternative java (providing /usr/bin/java).
 
   SelectionPath  Priority   Status
 
 * 0/opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/bin/java  2000  auto
 mode
   1/opt/java/32/jre1.7.0_04/bin/java  2000
 manual mode
   2/usr/bin/gij-4.4   1044
 manual mode
   3/usr/bin/gij-4.5   1045
 manual mode
   4/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java   1061
 manual mode
 
 Press enter to keep the current choice[*], or type selection number: 4
 update-alternatives: using /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/bin/java to
 provide /usr/bin/java (java) in manual mode.
 
 
 $ ls -al /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so
 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 57 2012-06-07 12:03
 /etc/alternatives/mozilla-javaplugin.so -
 /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so
 
 about:plugins (SeaMonkey):
 
 IcedTea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.1.1 (1.1.1-0ubuntu1~11.04.2))
 File: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk/jre/lib/i386/IcedTeaPlugin.so
 
 Note: you do not have to shutdown  restart SeaMonkey to test; just
 clear all your caches  reload the about:plugins page.
 
 So something is definately odd when Firefox ignores the system java/jre
 and relies only on the mozilla-javaplugin.so symlink. But SeaMonkey
 requires both (system and mozilla-javaplugin.so).
 


Craig (+Jens),

I've just replicated the same in Fedora 17. First I installed openjdk 
tested with both Firefox(13)  SeaMonkey (2.10), and the result is
exactly the same as the above tests (works/works). I then did the same
with SeaMonkey 2.10, and the result is exactly the same as in the above
tests (fail/fail).

I then installed Sun Java JRE 1.7:

http://www.if-not-true-then-false.com/2010/install-sun-oracle-java-jdk-jre-7-on-fedora-centos-red-hat-rhel/

tested switch the java, and in this case, again, Firefox sword with
1.7.0_04, SeaMonkey did not. Switched them back to openJDK and
everything works in FireFox *and* SeaMonkey.

Note: I'me posting this from the Fedora 17 SeaMonkey:

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120429
Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9.1

with openJDK:

IcedTea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.2 (fedora-2.fc17-i386))
File: /usr/lib/IcedTeaPlugin.so

and tested with 'java.com':

Verified Java Version
Congratulations!
You have the recommended Java installed (1.7.0_b147-icedtea).

# uname -a
Linux Fedora17 3.4.0-1.fc17.i686 #1 SMP Sun Jun 3 07:16:04 UTC 2012 i686
i686 i386 GNU/Linux

$ java -version
java version 1.7.0_b147-icedtea
OpenJDK Runtime Environment (fedora-2.1.fc17.6-i386)
OpenJDK Client VM (build 22.0-b10, mixed mode)


# alternatives --config 

Re: SeaMonkey's send later.

2012-06-10 Thread Jonathan Kamens
Ant ant@zimage.comANT writes:
Is it me or do some e-mail clients download e-mails that were dated for 
send later and some are dated for send now? I noticed my earlier 
e-mails for send later were dated from those times in some specific 
e-mail clients, but others (e.g., Gmail) get the times that were sent at 
Sent Now.

I've read this paragraph several times, and I'm still not sure
I understand what you're asking. Your question may make sense
to you, but the way you've formulated it here seems rather
convoluted.

I *think* you're asking why some email clients show, as the
date of an email message, the date at which it arrived in your
mailbox, whereas other email clients show the date at which
the sender claims to have sent it, which can in some cases
differ significantly from the date when it arrived in your
mailbox.

Is that right?

If not, then please try to explain better what you're asking,
because I don't get it, and I doubt anyone else will either.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.10 in Linux keeps crashing

2012-06-10 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

Rod wrote:

Hi I know you folk are really totally windows centric, so
don't ignore linux or apple versions they have their place in OS land too.

T/he tgz2 file after decompression crashes going back a page especially
on the ABC aust website but others too.

  http://download.mozilla.org/?product=seamonkey-2.10os=linuxlang=en-US

Gone back to 2.91 and 2.8 which are still branded 2.10 but don't crash,
guess their existing code repairs something bad in 2.10 code./

Regards
Rod



Can you please file a bug (reference it here) and link a few of the 
crash report urls for these crashes?


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Re: [SM 2.10 ] bug 736811 Mouse changes to drag cursor without clicking any buttons

2012-06-10 Thread Justin Wood (Callek)

NoOp wrote:

The bug
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736811
has been updated today.

I can *easily* replicate in Thunderbird 13 as well. 6 machines, 4
distros, 4 linux desktops (GNOME 2, GNOME3, KDE, ICWM,  and 2 Mozilla
products (SeaMonkey 10  Thunderbird 13).

Again: I consider this bug to be a blocker for the next release
(SeaMonkey 11.x).


Ok that bug is currently unconfirmed and listed as Firefox, so even 
though we both know it is gecko, are you able to reproduce in Firefox 
(If so that will make next steps easier).


After than can you help identify when this problem first occurred (it 
has regression-window-wanted listed)


Lets start with this list:

Does it occur in:
* Firefox 13 [ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/13.0/]
* Firefox 12 [ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/12.0/]
* ... major versions

Once you have a case of Broken in major version [x] but works in major 
version [x-1] then I can assist you in drilling down further.


Feel free to come on IRC (irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey) and ask for 
my help in drilling down the range, to a 24 hour period, so we can get a 
better idea of what is wrong, specifically!


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Re: [SM 2.10 ] bug 736811 Mouse changes to drag cursor without clicking any buttons

2012-06-10 Thread NoOp
On 06/10/2012 08:29 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:
 NoOp wrote:
 The bug
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=736811
 has been updated today.

 I can *easily* replicate in Thunderbird 13 as well. 6 machines, 4
 distros, 4 linux desktops (GNOME 2, GNOME3, KDE, ICWM,  and 2 Mozilla
 products (SeaMonkey 10  Thunderbird 13).

 Again: I consider this bug to be a blocker for the next release
 (SeaMonkey 11.x).
 
 Ok that bug is currently unconfirmed and listed as Firefox, so even 
 though we both know it is gecko, are you able to reproduce in Firefox 
 (If so that will make next steps easier).

Actually I don't know it is gecko. If I knew what it was, I'd
concentrate on that. As far as I can tell it's a mailnews issue. And no,
I've not been able to reproduce in Firefox.

However, we *both* know that this is a regression... right?
Are you implying that a regression like this won't be fixed unless it
can also be reproduced in Firefox? Would you like a new SeaMonkey +
Thunderbird mailnews component bug?

 
 After than can you help identify when this problem first occurred (it 
 has regression-window-wanted listed)
 
 Lets start with this list:
 
 Does it occur in:
 * Firefox 13 [ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/13.0/]
 * Firefox 12 [ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/12.0/]
 * ... major versions

Let's start with this instead:
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.9.1/
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/releases/2.10/
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/12.0.1/
ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/thunderbird/releases/13.0/

 
 Once you have a case of Broken in major version [x] but works in major 
 version [x-1] then I can assist you in drilling down further.

Right...
Broken in major version SeaMonkey 10.x (and Thunderbird 12.x) but works
in major version SeaMonkey 2.9.x (and Thunderbird 13.x). Does that not
work for you?

 
 Feel free to come on IRC (irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey) and ask for 
 my help in drilling down the range, to a 24 hour period, so we can get a 
 better idea of what is wrong, specifically!
 

I've already spent a fair amount of time attempting to troubleshoot and
update the bug report. I am happy to try different *user* scenarios, if
asked. However I'm not inclined to evolve to IRC. If you'd like me to
try something else, then comment in the bug report.

Bottom line is that the dev list were made aware of this issue at 2.10b2
- before final 2.10b3/2.10 release. You folks ask users to test the
betas... we do that. We report the issue, we tell you how it seriously
affects our use... and you retort that it must also occur in a different
component (browser - instead of mailnews) in order to get attention?
Wrong bug report/component? Say so  I'll be happy to file a new
SeaMonkey + Thunderbird mailnews component bug, or feel free to reassign
to the correct component.

In the interim I've blocked all of my linux customers from upgrading
to SeaMonkey 2.10 (and now Thunderbird 13 as well).


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