Re: Hogging CPU from JavaScript/JS on some web sites/pages recently?

2012-07-06 Thread Ron Hunter

On 7/5/2012 8:37 PM, Ant wrote:

On 7/3/2012 8:35 PM PT, Ant typed:


Lately, I noticed two (soon to be more? I will post more that I find
since I am a web addict ;)) web sites/pages are currently sucking my web
browsers' CPU powers. They sometimes make web browsers very slow
(sometimes unusable). I found out it is from JavaScript/JS because it
stops if I disable JS and reload/refresh the web pages. Of course, web
site/pages' features/functions don't work.

Example web pages/sites:
1. http://cbs2.com stories like this story/web page:
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/07/03/cudahy-mayor-resigns-amid-corruption-charges/


2. http://icanhascheezburger.com and its family of web sites. Example
web page:
http://icanhascheezburger.com/2012/06/22/funny-animal-videos-the-worlds-oldest-tiger/


I can reproduce them on three different computers (quad core systems
with 2.5-8 GB of RAM), two Mozilla's web browsers (SeaMonkey v2.0.14 and
2.10.1 and Firefox/Iceweasel v13.0.1) and operating systems (64-bit
Windows 7 HPE, XP Pro. SP3, and Debian stable). I even tried disabling
all of my extensions. Also, this happened at work and home with two
different ISPs/Internet connections. :(

Is anyone else able to reproduce this and seeing this problem on other
web sites/pages? Why is it happening recently? I noticed this pattern
since the last weekend. :(


For kicks, I tried clean installations of both Firefox v13.0.1 and
SeaMonkey v2.10.1. I reproduced them too even after disabling all
addons, extensions, and disabling network connection. Something is
wacky. Here's a screen shot of updated Windows XP Pro. SP3's Task
Manager: http://i.imgur.com/58r5T.gif ... I even reproduced it in a new
Firefox v13.0.1 in an updated 64-bit Mac OS X 10.7.4 (1 GB of RAM). :(


I see no unusual CPU activity on those pages.  Win7 Home SP1, 2.6GHZ 
dual core Intel.  Have you done a complete malware scan?


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Re: Hogging CPU from JavaScript/JS on some web sites/pages recently?

2012-07-06 Thread Ant

On 7/6/2012 12:15 AM PT, Ron Hunter typed:


I see no unusual CPU activity on those pages. Win7 Home SP1, 2.6GHZ dual
core Intel. Have you done a complete malware scan?


Yep. Also, remember I tried on three different platforms (Windows, 
Linux/Debian, and Mac OS X) and machines (including clean ones at work I 
use for testings).

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Missing Chat Button..

2012-07-06 Thread JD

I don't know any better way to describe the problem.

On the following web page: http://www.iherb.com/info/Contact

On the left side there is a place to Contact us via Live Chat but 
there is no button to click on. Below where the button should be, it 
says (Click to Chat)


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Re: Missing Chat Button..

2012-07-06 Thread Philip TAYLOR

I see a button : it is above the words Click to chat.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 
Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1


Philip Taylor
JD wrote: I don't know any better way to describe the problem.

 On the following web page: http://www.iherb.com/info/Contact

 On the left side there is a place to Contact us via Live Chat but
 there is no button to click on. Below where the button should be, it
 says (Click to Chat)


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Re: Missing Chat Button..

2012-07-06 Thread JD
I restarted in Safe Mode with all Add-ons disabled and I still don't get 
a button. 	


Philip TAYLOR wrote:

I see a button : it is above the words Click to chat.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615
Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1

Philip Taylor
JD wrote: I don't know any better way to describe the problem.
 
  On the following web page: http://www.iherb.com/info/Contact
 
  On the left side there is a place to Contact us via Live Chat but
  there is no button to click on. Below where the button should be, it
  says (Click to Chat)
 



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Re: Missing Chat Button..

2012-07-06 Thread JD

Do you use any customized HOSTS file?

I do, and it appears to be blocking what the button is referring to:

https://server.iad.liveperson.net/hc/68957657/?cmd=filefile=visitorWantsToChatsite=68957657byhref=1imageUrl=https://www.iherb.com/i/info/logo'

In my HOSTS file:

127.0.0.1  server.iad.liveperson.net


Philip TAYLOR wrote:

I see a button : it is above the words Click to chat.
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615
Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1

Philip Taylor
JD wrote: I don't know any better way to describe the problem.
 
  On the following web page: http://www.iherb.com/info/Contact
 
  On the left side there is a place to Contact us via Live Chat but
  there is no button to click on. Below where the button should be, it
  says (Click to Chat)
 






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Re: SM2.10.1 Composer Tables Not Indented

2012-07-06 Thread Michael Gordon

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:


Brooke Clarke wrote:

It used to be that when a table was inserted it was positioned at the
current tab, but now in 2.10.1 the table always is at the left edge of
the page. How to fix that?


Use CSS styles to position and size your tables and cells.


I'm not sure yet if Brooke means a) on the resultant web page, or b) in
the Composer source code window. I think we should try to determine that
before delving into CSS -- especially if Brooke is not familiar with it.



Apparently Composer has had some modifications added to it's developing 
of web page content that the rest of us are unaware of, changing the way 
a table displays by default may be one.  This will not be the first time 
a developer has made changes without notification.


Changing the way tables and related content display by default should be 
IAW the W3C web standards.


If a table now displays (by default) on the left side of the page then 
this could be changed using CSS positioning elements.


If Composer displays the table in the left side of his screen then it 
will appear in the left side of the screen when viewed from the server.


Composer used to have the option of using HTML coding, or embedded CSS 
Styles into the HTML elements.


Perhaps she could look at her Preferences for Composer and see how 
composition is set?


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Re: SM2.10.1 Composer Tables Not Indented

2012-07-06 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Michael Gordon wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Michael Gordon wrote:

 Brooke Clarke wrote:
 It used to be that when a table was inserted it was positioned at the
 current tab, but now in 2.10.1 the table always is at the left edge
 of the page. How to fix that?

 Use CSS styles to position and size your tables and cells.

 I'm not sure yet if Brooke means a) on the resultant web page, or b) in
 the Composer source code window. I think we should try to determine
 that before delving into CSS -- especially if Brooke is not familiar
 with it.


 Apparently Composer has had some modifications added to it's developing
 of web page content that the rest of us are unaware of, changing the way
 a table displays by default may be one.  This will not be the first time
 a developer has made changes without notification.
 
 Changing the way tables and related content display by default should be
 IAW the W3C web standards.

W3C hasn't change how raw tables display since tables were invented.

 If a table now displays (by default) on the left side of the page then
 this could be changed using CSS positioning elements.

Of course.  table { margin-left: auto; margin-right-auto; } for example.

 If Composer displays the table in the left side of his screen then it
 will appear in the left side of the screen when viewed from the server.
 
 Composer used to have the option of using HTML coding, or embedded CSS
 Styles into the HTML elements.
 
 Perhaps she could look at her Preferences for Composer and see how
 composition is set?

You're also assuming Brooke (he/she) is talking about the display in the 
resultant web page, in the browser. We still don't know if the reference 
is to the web page, or in the Composer composition source code.

I still think we should confirm which is correct before recommending some 
CSS to add.

Tables in a web page by default display at the left margin of their 
containers. It's always been that way.

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Re: SM2.10.1 Composer Tables Not Indented

2012-07-06 Thread Brooke Clarke

Hi:

I turned off the Composer preference to use CSS and that's fixed the problem, 
THANKS.

Here is an example of a table that appears on the left margin of Composer and 
in the browser :
http://www.prc68.com/I/PTS160.html

and here is an example of a table that was inserted at the location of the 
cursor when it was inserted:
http://www.prc68.com/I/GRA71.shtml

Have Fun,

Mr. Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:


Brooke Clarke wrote:

It used to be that when a table was inserted it was positioned at the
current tab, but now in 2.10.1 the table always is at the left edge
of the page. How to fix that?

Use CSS styles to position and size your tables and cells.

I'm not sure yet if Brooke means a) on the resultant web page, or b) in
the Composer source code window. I think we should try to determine
that before delving into CSS -- especially if Brooke is not familiar
with it.



Apparently Composer has had some modifications added to it's developing
of web page content that the rest of us are unaware of, changing the way
a table displays by default may be one.  This will not be the first time
a developer has made changes without notification.

Changing the way tables and related content display by default should be
IAW the W3C web standards.

W3C hasn't change how raw tables display since tables were invented.


If a table now displays (by default) on the left side of the page then
this could be changed using CSS positioning elements.

Of course.  table { margin-left: auto; margin-right-auto; } for example.


If Composer displays the table in the left side of his screen then it
will appear in the left side of the screen when viewed from the server.

Composer used to have the option of using HTML coding, or embedded CSS
Styles into the HTML elements.

Perhaps she could look at her Preferences for Composer and see how
composition is set?

You're also assuming Brooke (he/she) is talking about the display in the
resultant web page, in the browser. We still don't know if the reference
is to the web page, or in the Composer composition source code.

I still think we should confirm which is correct before recommending some
CSS to add.

Tables in a web page by default display at the left margin of their
containers. It's always been that way.




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Re: SM2.10.1 Composer Tables Not Indented

2012-07-06 Thread Michael Gordon

Brooke Clarke wrote:

Hi:

I turned off the Composer preference to use CSS and that's fixed the
problem, THANKS.


Brooke,

You are very welcome.  Now you should be able to create web page 
documents very much like in the old days of Netscape Composer.


If you would like to try something similar to composer, but updated to 
recent web standards you might like to try, Kompozer, patterned after 
the Netscape version, but heavily updated.  Konpozer: 
http://www.kompozer.net/


Michael G




Here is an example of a table that appears on the left margin of
Composer and in the browser :
http://www.prc68.com/I/PTS160.html

and here is an example of a table that was inserted at the location of
the cursor when it was inserted:
http://www.prc68.com/I/GRA71.shtml

Have Fun,

Mr. Brooke Clarke
http://www.PRC68.com
http://www.end2partygovernment.com/2012Issues.html

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:


Brooke Clarke wrote:

It used to be that when a table was inserted it was positioned at the
current tab, but now in 2.10.1 the table always is at the left edge
of the page. How to fix that?

Use CSS styles to position and size your tables and cells.

I'm not sure yet if Brooke means a) on the resultant web page, or b) in
the Composer source code window. I think we should try to determine
that before delving into CSS -- especially if Brooke is not familiar
with it.



Apparently Composer has had some modifications added to it's developing
of web page content that the rest of us are unaware of, changing the way
a table displays by default may be one. This will not be the first time
a developer has made changes without notification.

Changing the way tables and related content display by default should be
IAW the W3C web standards.

W3C hasn't change how raw tables display since tables were invented.


If a table now displays (by default) on the left side of the page then
this could be changed using CSS positioning elements.

Of course. table { margin-left: auto; margin-right-auto; } for example.


If Composer displays the table in the left side of his screen then it
will appear in the left side of the screen when viewed from the server.

Composer used to have the option of using HTML coding, or embedded CSS
Styles into the HTML elements.

Perhaps she could look at her Preferences for Composer and see how
composition is set?

You're also assuming Brooke (he/she) is talking about the display in the
resultant web page, in the browser. We still don't know if the reference
is to the web page, or in the Composer composition source code.

I still think we should confirm which is correct before recommending some
CSS to add.

Tables in a web page by default display at the left margin of their
containers. It's always been that way.







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Re: Missing Chat Button..

2012-07-06 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

JD wrote:

I don't know any better way to describe the problem.

On the following web page: http://www.iherb.com/info/Contact

On the left side there is a place to Contact us via Live Chat but
there is no button to click on. Below where the button should be, it
says (Click to Chat)


WFM with no special actions on my part -- I get a rectangular button 
with Live Chat in bold black on a white background in the top 
two-thirds and online in bold white on a green background in the 
bottom third.


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 
Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1


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Re: Missing Chat Button..

2012-07-06 Thread JD

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

JD wrote:

I don't know any better way to describe the problem.

On the following web page: http://www.iherb.com/info/Contact

On the left side there is a place to Contact us via Live Chat but
there is no button to click on. Below where the button should be, it
says (Click to Chat)


WFM with no special actions on my part -- I get a rectangular button
with Live Chat in bold black on a white background in the top
two-thirds and online in bold white on a green background in the
bottom third.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615
Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1



Did you see my second reply to Phillip?

It's my HOSTS file.

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Re: SM2.10.1 Composer Tables Not Indented

2012-07-06 Thread WLS
On 07/06/2012 05:57 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:
 Brooke Clarke wrote:
 Hi:

 I turned off the Composer preference to use CSS and that's fixed the
 problem, THANKS.
 
 Brooke,
 
 You are very welcome.  Now you should be able to create web page
 documents very much like in the old days of Netscape Composer.
 
 If you would like to try something similar to composer, but updated to
 recent web standards you might like to try, Kompozer, patterned after
 the Netscape version, but heavily updated.  Konpozer:
 http://www.kompozer.net/
 
 Michael G
 

Last stable KompoZer version was released 2007-08-30, so I don't think
it is up to date with web standards.

Last stable BlueGriffon version based on Gecko, was released 2012-05-25,
and supports HTML5.

http://www.bluegriffon.org/

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SeaMonkey Sync

2012-07-06 Thread Bret Blakeslee
The documentation specifies (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/sync) 
that I can 'Click Create a New Account.' under Tools but I can't 
because (I'm using 2.10.1) there is no Create a New Account button 
there.  What do I have to do to get that button to appear?


My system specifics are Fujitsu Notebook A6120, Windows XP, 4GB RAM, 
500GB HDD, Intel Core 2 Duo CPU @ 2GHz, SeaMonkey 2.10.1 (or 2.9.1 - 
neither showed this button, I thought the upgrade might fix it but it 
didn't).


Bret Blakeslee
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Re: SeaMonkey Sync

2012-07-06 Thread WLS
On 07/06/2012 10:05 PM, Bret Blakeslee wrote:
 The documentation specifies (http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/sync)
 that I can 'Click Create a New Account.' under Tools but I can't
 because (I'm using 2.10.1) there is no Create a New Account button
 there.  What do I have to do to get that button to appear?
 
 My system specifics are Fujitsu Notebook A6120, Windows XP, 4GB RAM,
 500GB HDD, Intel Core 2 Duo CPU @ 2GHz, SeaMonkey 2.10.1 (or 2.9.1 -
 neither showed this button, I thought the upgrade might fix it but it
 didn't).
 
 Bret Blakeslee

Did ya click Set Up Sync... under Tools?

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