Re: Usenet in SM

2013-03-12 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/11/13 5:05 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:
 as someone here recently turned me onto free Usenet from 
 EternalSeptember, I'm following several groups again.
 
 When a post is cross-posted to two groups, and I follow both, is there a 
 setting I can tweak so that reading the post in one group marks it as 
 read in both groups?
 IDR,
 GW
 

This is long-standing bug #43278, first submitted over 12 years ago.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278.  Since this
worked quite well with Netscape 4.7, I really do not know why it has not
yet been fixed.

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Re: Usenet in SM

2013-03-12 Thread Geoff Welsh

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/11/13 5:05 PM, Geoff Welsh wrote:

as someone here recently turned me onto free Usenet from
EternalSeptember, I'm following several groups again.

When a post is cross-posted to two groups, and I follow both, is there a
setting I can tweak so that reading the post in one group marks it as
read in both groups?
IDR,
GW



This is long-standing bug #43278, first submitted over 12 years ago.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278.  Since this
worked quite well with Netscape 4.7, I really do not know why it has not
yet been fixed.


jeezis, good memory,

thanks,
GW
(Maybe I'll unpack my OS9 machine and run Netcape 4.7)
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Re: Usenet in SM

2013-03-12 Thread Ant

On 3/11/2013 11:28 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


as someone here recently turned me onto free Usenet from
EternalSeptember, I'm following several groups again.

When a post is cross-posted to two groups, and I follow both, is there a
setting I can tweak so that reading the post in one group marks it as
read in both groups?


This is long-standing bug #43278, first submitted over 12 years ago.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278.  Since this
worked quite well with Netscape 4.7, I really do not know why it has not
yet been fixed.


Wow, I guess no one cares to fix it? I just voted and subscribed.
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Re: Usenet in SM

2013-03-12 Thread Daniel

Ant wrote:

On 3/11/2013 11:28 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


as someone here recently turned me onto free Usenet from
EternalSeptember, I'm following several groups again.

When a post is cross-posted to two groups, and I follow both, is there a
setting I can tweak so that reading the post in one group marks it as
read in both groups?


This is long-standing bug #43278, first submitted over 12 years ago.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278.  Since this
worked quite well with Netscape 4.7, I really do not know why it has not
yet been fixed.


Wow, I guess no one cares to fix it? I just voted and subscribed.


and that would explain why I got an update email on this bug tonight!!

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Re: Usenet in SM

2013-03-12 Thread Daniel

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/11/2013 11:28 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


as someone here recently turned me onto free Usenet from
EternalSeptember, I'm following several groups again.

When a post is cross-posted to two groups, and I follow both, is
there a
setting I can tweak so that reading the post in one group marks it as
read in both groups?


This is long-standing bug #43278, first submitted over 12 years ago.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278.  Since this
worked quite well with Netscape 4.7, I really do not know why it has not
yet been fixed.


Wow, I guess no one cares to fix it? I just voted and subscribed.


and that would explain why I got an update email on this bug tonight!!


and a second one now!! At last, some activity!!

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Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-12 Thread chokito
See 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.seamonkey/BBpOkoTcgnM/w3eLwRc4awcJ
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Re: Email error message

2013-03-12 Thread Ray_Net

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote, On 11/03/2013 12:02:

Danny Kile wrote:


Danny Kile wrote:

Please 5.7.0 visit
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590 ...

OK some more testing done and I have found that if the link is something
other than a .com, lets say speedtest.net or or whatever.xxx it works.
It just can not be a whatever.com. Seems like it see the .com as an
executable file and not a link. Is there a setting in SM to keep it from
putting my links in the Attachment list?

.com is on the list of file types google prohibits, according to the
support link you first posted. A .com file is a command file type
extension. Remember those from the old DOS days?

Perhaps you could obfuscate it is some fashion, and tell your recipient to
change it back? Also try including a trailing slash in your link to see if
that gets by the google filter.  http://example.com/  --

Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)

I have tested sending a mail containing a link ending with .com on my 
gmail box, and i was able to read it using gmail (webmail access) 
without having an error speaking about an attachment.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909 
Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1

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Re: Usenet in SM

2013-03-12 Thread Ray_Net

Daniel wrote, On 12/03/2013 10:37:

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/11/2013 11:28 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


as someone here recently turned me onto free Usenet from
EternalSeptember, I'm following several groups again.

When a post is cross-posted to two groups, and I follow both, is
there a
setting I can tweak so that reading the post in one group marks it as
read in both groups?


This is long-standing bug #43278, first submitted over 12 years ago.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278. Since this
worked quite well with Netscape 4.7, I really do not know why it 
has not

yet been fixed.


Wow, I guess no one cares to fix it? I just voted and subscribed.


and that would explain why I got an update email on this bug tonight!!


and a second one now!! At last, some activity!!


Anyway - who's care ? :-)
The problem is because SM development use the wrong way philosophy.
They need votes to correct a bug.
They don't need votes of implementing a new stuff.
In the real world, this is exactly the inverse:
Votes are needed to implement a new gadget, if no vote, there is nobody 
interesting, so don't spend time to create the not needed stuff.
For bugs, votes are not needed, because each bug needs to be resolved - 
thus creating a more perfect product.

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Re: Windows 8

2013-03-12 Thread sean nathan

WaltS wrote, On 03/01/2013 06:15 AM:

On 02/28/2013 08:08 PM, Ken Rudolph wrote:

Is SeaMonkey useful in windows 8?  For instance, I can't find
application data anywhere in my computer.  What I want to do is use my
bookmark file from windows 7 seamonkey 2.16, and have seamonkey on my
windows 8 machine load up with the same bookmarks.  That's one place to
start, anyway.  Any idea how to do this?

By the way, when I tried to download SeaMonkey, Windows insisted that it
was going to harm my Surface Pro, and I had to bypass the warning even
to get the program.  It seems to work ok; but I would really like to
have my bookmarks!



Isn't SeaMonkey Sync, supposed to allow you to sync your SeaMonkey setup
between two devices?

http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/sync


i was about to post the same thing WaltS... this is precisely the sort 
of situation Seamonkey Sync was designed for


sean



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Re: La Paz Stuff

2013-03-12 Thread sean nathan

Jay Garcia wrote, On 03/01/2013 05:12 PM:

On 01.03.2013 09:13, news.mozilla.org wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Paul here is the hotel we stay at and the place
we fish.

http://www.hotelperlabaja.com/index.html

http://www.fishermensfleet.com/

You can get a Mexican fishing license here.

https://www2.ebajacalifornia.gob.mx/Pesca/

Click the American flag for English.

You want the zona AGUAS DE JURISDICCION FEDERAL

Ted




Ted .. you posted to the seamonkey newsgroup, may want to try again to
email your friend.


Personally. I'm glad Ted messed up... happy to see our old friend Jay's 
name pop up !!!


sean

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Re: Email error message

2013-03-12 Thread Danny Kile

Ray_Net wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote, On 11/03/2013 12:02:

Danny Kile wrote:


Danny Kile wrote:

Please 5.7.0 visit
http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?answer=6590 ...

OK some more testing done and I have found that if the link is something
other than a .com, lets say speedtest.net or or whatever.xxx it works.
It just can not be a whatever.com. Seems like it see the .com as an
executable file and not a link. Is there a setting in SM to keep it from
putting my links in the Attachment list?

.com is on the list of file types google prohibits, according to the
support link you first posted. A .com file is a command file type
extension. Remember those from the old DOS days?

Perhaps you could obfuscate it is some fashion, and tell your
recipient to
change it back? Also try including a trailing slash in your link to
see if
that gets by the google filter.  http://example.com/  --

Or use a less restrictive mail service?   ;-)


I have tested sending a mail containing a link ending with .com on my
gmail box, and i was able to read it using gmail (webmail access)
without having an error speaking about an attachment.
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120909
Firefox/15.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.12.1


So when you create an email with a link in it lets say weather.com, does 
the weather.com show up in SM attachments window?

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Re: Email error message

2013-03-12 Thread Philip TAYLOR
It did not for me, even after I had replicated your
setup (compose in HTML, send in both formats).
I did note, however, that when creating the link,
it asked whether I wanted the contents included
as an attachment.  Are you asked this question, and
if so, what do you answer, and how exactly do you
create your links in the HTML editor ?

P.S.  Of course, I did not attempt to create a link
to (say) weather.com; I created a link to (say)

http://weather.com/

Philip Taylor


kileda...@nospamnetscape.net wrote:

 So when you create an email with a link in it lets say weather.com,
 does the weather.com show up in SM attachments window?
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.16.1 is out

2013-03-12 Thread Rufus

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Rufus wrote:

Justin Wood (Callek) wrote:

Hey Guys.

Following along with our traditional security updates, 2.16.1 is
now
out
to correct a severe security vulnerability.

You should be able to grab it from our website
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ or directly form the app's
check-for-updates.



...here's hoping for a fix for the drop downs...again...



...so much for that hope...again...


Rufus, could you please refresh my memory about the drop downs
situation??



The drop down menus are drawn incompletely for things like Master
Password request using the SM Modern Theme - the bottom edge is cut off
in such a way that even the buttons are incompletely drawn.  I was told
that the team already had a bug on this so I didn't submit one.

This is just one more of a series of UE/UI type bugs that I've been
waiting on fixes (some of them for *years* now)...and this is a
seemingly pretty simple one, but really annoying from a UE standpoint.
I'm holding my most used machines at SM 2.13.2 until this gets fixed.


Wanted to visualize your problem, but can't seem to find it. Would you
please post the complete sequence of choices that leads you to the
problem?

Note that I use SM Modern in Windows, not Mac. Maybe different?


Probably.  This is annoying because of a combination of two problems,
really -

1) open SM and navigate to a site that requires input of a stored
Password.  The drop down to input you Master Password is drawn short.

2) and this is the *REALLY* annoying one - just opening SM and waiting
for a random period of time *WITHOUT* navigating to a site requires a
stored Password I get a request for my Master Password even though I
have my Pref set to ask only when it's first required.  I wrote this up
as SM bug 724296, and it's been broken since roughly about 1.16.  So now
I have this to deal with, *and* the dialog is drawn short.

...and as an aside to #2 - I now have a Windows 7 Bootcamp install on my
Mac Mini and have been running the Win version of SM there - and even
though I have my Pref set to ask for my Master Password the first time
it is needed it asks at start of session - every time!  So something is
really broken as far as invoking the Pref setting is concerned, I should
think.

You guys could fix this *one* bug alone and make a 200% improvement in
the product in terms of UE, IMO.


How about one thing at a time?!?! (Mac or Master Password??)

Rufus any chance you can set up a test profile *without* using a Master
Password then see if your drop-downs work correctly??



Well, the Mac/PC issues are probably related.  And yes - I already have 
a Profile without a Master Password and this doesn't happen with that 
Profile...because there is no Master Password present to invoke that 
portion of the code!


As I've said, I've been living with this situation since roughly SM 1.16 
as far as the random requests for Master Password goes - this recent 
thing with the short-draw only makes it appear worse.


...and don't get me started about the problems with the Password Manager 
and not following a link directly.  Which it appears that the team had a 
resolution for from following my bug thread, but *still* no fix!


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Re: Usenet in SM

2013-03-12 Thread Rufus

Ray_Net wrote:

Daniel wrote, On 12/03/2013 10:37:

Daniel wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 3/11/2013 11:28 PM PT, David E. Ross typed:


as someone here recently turned me onto free Usenet from
EternalSeptember, I'm following several groups again.

When a post is cross-posted to two groups, and I follow both, is
there a
setting I can tweak so that reading the post in one group marks it as
read in both groups?


This is long-standing bug #43278, first submitted over 12 years ago.
See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=43278. Since this
worked quite well with Netscape 4.7, I really do not know why it
has not
yet been fixed.


Wow, I guess no one cares to fix it? I just voted and subscribed.


and that would explain why I got an update email on this bug tonight!!


and a second one now!! At last, some activity!!


Anyway - who's care ? :-)
The problem is because SM development use the wrong way philosophy.
They need votes to correct a bug.
They don't need votes of implementing a new stuff.
In the real world, this is exactly the inverse:
Votes are needed to implement a new gadget, if no vote, there is nobody
interesting, so don't spend time to create the not needed stuff.
For bugs, votes are not needed, because each bug needs to be resolved -
thus creating a more perfect product.


Second.

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Default cookie policy?

2013-03-12 Thread Gerry Hickman

Hi,

I thought the default browser policy for cookies was to allow only from 
the originating site (perhaps I'm getting mixed up with IE?) but anyway 
I was looking at my SM privacy and security settings and it says allow 
all cookies. I thought it must be wrong, but then the SM help file says


Your browser is set by default to accept all cookies.

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Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-12 Thread A Williams

chokito wrote:

See 
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.seamonkey/BBpOkoTcgnM/w3eLwRc4awcJ



oops - I did not look back far enough.
known bug then: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=594646

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Re: Charset revisited

2013-03-12 Thread Gary Montalbine



On 03/11/2013 01:50 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

A Williams wrote:
Note that Composer is not the same as the mail composition applet.
Composer is an outdated HTML editor.


I use Seamonkey as my html composer. I have a simple website. The 
windows-1252 charset surprised me. Is there another easy editor you 
might recommend?


Gary
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Re: Email error message

2013-03-12 Thread Danny Kile

Philip TAYLOR wrote:

It did not for me, even after I had replicated your
setup (compose in HTML, send in both formats).
I did note, however, that when creating the link,
it asked whether I wanted the contents included
as an attachment.  Are you asked this question, and
if so, what do you answer, and how exactly do you
create your links in the HTML editor ?

P.S.  Of course, I did not attempt to create a link
to (say) weather.com; I created a link to (say)

http://weather.com/

Philip Taylor


kileda...@nospamnetscape.net wrote:


So when you create an email with a link in it lets say weather.com,
does the weather.com show up in SM attachments window?


No it does not ask me if I want the contents included as an attachment. 
I create attachment in two way typing them in as www.domainname.com or 
some times I will be at a site www.domainname.com and then right click 
and choose send this page, in either case it will be added to the 
attachment list.


Danny
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Re: Default cookie policy?

2013-03-12 Thread Rufus

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Hi,

I thought the default browser policy for cookies was to allow only from
the originating site (perhaps I'm getting mixed up with IE?) but anyway
I was looking at my SM privacy and security settings and it says allow
all cookies. I thought it must be wrong, but then the SM help file says

Your browser is set by default to accept all cookies.



I've always had to go and select the Originating Site Only option for 
Cookie handling, as I recall.


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Re: Default cookie policy?

2013-03-12 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Rufus wrote:


Gerry Hickman wrote:

Hi,

I thought the default browser policy for cookies was to allow only
from the originating site (perhaps I'm getting mixed up with IE?)
but anyway I was looking at my SM privacy and security settings and
it says allow all cookies. I thought it must be wrong, but then
the SM help file says

Your browser is set by default to accept all cookies.


I've always had to go and select the Originating Site Only option
for Cookie handling, as I recall.


Always? Only if you keep installing the program from scratch.

My settings survive upgrades, so I don't have to keep changing them.

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Re: Default cookie policy?

2013-03-12 Thread Rufus

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rufus wrote:


Gerry Hickman wrote:

Hi,

I thought the default browser policy for cookies was to allow only
from the originating site (perhaps I'm getting mixed up with IE?)
but anyway I was looking at my SM privacy and security settings and
it says allow all cookies. I thought it must be wrong, but then
the SM help file says

Your browser is set by default to accept all cookies.


I've always had to go and select the Originating Site Only option
for Cookie handling, as I recall.


Always? Only if you keep installing the program from scratch.

My settings survive upgrades, so I don't have to keep changing them.



Yeah - or building a new Profile.

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