Lost emails
At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/9/13 5:39 PM +0900, Gita Diem wrote: At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. As far as I understand it, the upgrade path from v1.x would be to install v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgrade to the latest version. So, download 2.0, trash your 2.22.1, delete ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/, install 2.0 and then see whether your mail is back. If not, restore your profile in ~/Library/Application Support/ from backup and try again. From memory, the old 1.x branch stored its profile in ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla whereas the newer releases migrated the profile into ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey. The latest releases to not do the migration directly, which is why installing 2.0 is required. Best of luck with it. trane -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to Manage Invalid/Override Security certificate
On 12/8/2013 5:58 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 12/7/2013 12:53 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: After successfully logging in to United Healthcare web site, I select the option Find Providers When I do, I get the message that that page is not trusted and the Technical Details states that it using an invalid certificate (See below) Is there any way I can modify anything in SM (2.22.1) Manage Certificates to work around this? FWIW, I have similar problems with IE8, Firefox and Google Chrome. Technical Details epcp-prod-e-eprovider.uhc.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for epcprod-e.uhc.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) 1. Copy the complete domain of the URI (possibly epcp-prod-e-eprovider.uhc.com, but possibly not). 2. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. 3. On the left side of the Preference window, select [Privacy Security Certificates]. 4. On the Certificates pane, select the Manage Certificates button. 5. On the Certificate Manager window, select the Servers tab. 6. On the Servers tab, select the Add Exception button. 7. On the Add Security Exception window, enter the complete domain in the Location input area. 8. Select the Get Certificate button. 9. Select the Permanently store this exception checkbox to insert a checkmark and then the Confirm Security Exception button. 10. Close down the various windows by selecting OK buttons. I am sure it would be appreciated if you were to send your problem to the United Health Group at doma...@uhc.com with cc: to ip_addr...@uhg.com. You might also try calling them at (952)936-1300. This is a nasty bug in both Fx recently and SeaMonkey with the bottom of the window being cutoff accidentally. I would not be able to use your method because I disable all Comodo/comodo related certs in all browsers since December 2008 and also disable GoDaddy certs. That's a lot of certs for a lot of sites (since Comodo is too large to be allowed to fail and that's a main reason Mozilla did not yank them out of Fx in December 2008 over the Eddie Nigg incident). I depend on that popup window to work correctly. It does so in Opera 12.15 and IE 10. It used to work correctly in Fx and SeaMonkey. I expect that popup window to allow me to override the problem which is a deliberate one of my own making for security reasons. Frequently, I do NOT wish to make a permanent exception and this fact makes this bug even worse. I am not going to enable Comodo/Comodo related certs except one by one on whatever sites use them and I want to know as I might choose to not use a site that uses a Comodo cert. Same for Go-Daddy which is a sloppy, sleazy cert provider (but not as bad as Comodo) and GoDaddy loves to certify malware ridden sites so to protect myself I wish to know anytime a site is going to use a GoDaddy cert and I probably just won't go to the site at all or just that once (thus not needing permanent exception) and I will be on full alert knowing the site is using GoDaddy. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lightning 2.8b1 not working with Seamonkey 2.23b1
Petr Voralek schrieb: Hello! On 12/09/2013 06:41 AM, *Jens Hatlak* wrote, and I quote (in part): After short tests on two xp-ws Lightning 2.8b1 seems to be not working with Seamonkey 2.23b1. Calendar appears empty, its not possibel to create entrys, tabbed browser freezes. Please try with SM 2.23b2 which includes a fix for binary add-ons such as Lightning. Maybe it helps (didn't try). Unfortunately the problem persists even in this new version (for me, at x86_64 linux, x86_64 SM build 20131207080659, Lightning 2.8b1). On my test-box (x86 , win xp), SM 2.23b2 helped partly. Local and remote calendars are working. But if you hit the settings in Add-on-Manager , the (tabbed) Browser keeps freezing, can only be killed by taskmgr. Build-Identifikator: 20131207072643 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:26.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/26.0 SeaMonkey/2.23 Regards, Gerd ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to Manage Invalid/Override Security certificate
Desiree wrote: On 12/8/2013 5:58 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 12/7/2013 12:53 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: After successfully logging in to United Healthcare web site, I select the option Find Providers When I do, I get the message that that page is not trusted and the Technical Details states that it using an invalid certificate (See below) Is there any way I can modify anything in SM (2.22.1) Manage Certificates to work around this? FWIW, I have similar problems with IE8, Firefox and Google Chrome. Technical Details epcp-prod-e-eprovider.uhc.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for epcprod-e.uhc.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) 1. Copy the complete domain of the URI (possibly epcp-prod-e-eprovider.uhc.com, but possibly not). 2. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. 3. On the left side of the Preference window, select [Privacy Security Certificates]. 4. On the Certificates pane, select the Manage Certificates button. 5. On the Certificate Manager window, select the Servers tab. 6. On the Servers tab, select the Add Exception button. 7. On the Add Security Exception window, enter the complete domain in the Location input area. 8. Select the Get Certificate button. 9. Select the Permanently store this exception checkbox to insert a checkmark and then the Confirm Security Exception button. 10. Close down the various windows by selecting OK buttons. I am sure it would be appreciated if you were to send your problem to the United Health Group at doma...@uhc.com with cc: to ip_addr...@uhg.com. You might also try calling them at (952)936-1300. This is a nasty bug in both Fx recently and SeaMonkey with the bottom of the window being cutoff accidentally. I would not be able to use your method because I disable all Comodo/comodo related certs in all browsers since December 2008 and also disable GoDaddy certs. That's a lot of certs for a lot of sites (since Comodo is too large to be allowed to fail and that's a main reason Mozilla did not yank them out of Fx in December 2008 over the Eddie Nigg incident). I depend on that popup window to work correctly. It does so in Opera 12.15 and IE 10. It used to work correctly in Fx and SeaMonkey. I expect that popup window to allow me to override the problem which is a deliberate one of my own making for security reasons. Frequently, I do NOT wish to make a permanent exception and this fact makes this bug even worse. I am not going to enable Comodo/Comodo related certs except one by one on whatever sites use them and I want to know as I might choose to not use a site that uses a Comodo cert. Same for Go-Daddy which is a sloppy, sleazy cert provider (but not as bad as Comodo) and GoDaddy loves to certify malware ridden sites so to protect myself I wish to know anytime a site is going to use a GoDaddy cert and I probably just won't go to the site at all or just that once (thus not needing permanent exception) and I will be on full alert knowing the site is using GoDaddy. -- Gertjan Vinkesteijn http://ciudadpatricia.com Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/24.0 SeaMonkey/2.21 on Fedora19 @ redhat.com /* * Oops. The kernel tried to access some bad page. We'll have to * terminate things with extreme prejudice. */ die_if_kernel(Oops, regs, error_code); -- From linux/arch/i386/mm/fault.c ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to Manage Invalid/Override Security certificate
Arnie Goetchius wrote: After successfully logging in to United Healthcare web site, I select the option Find Providers When I do, I get the message that that page is not trusted and the Technical Details states that it using an invalid certificate (See below) Is there any way I can modify anything in SM (2.22.1) Manage Certificates to work around this? FWIW, I have similar problems with IE8, Firefox and Google Chrome. Technical Details epcp-prod-e-eprovider.uhc.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for epcprod-e.uhc.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) Arnie, I just clicked on a link for OpenMandriva 2014 and got a This Connection is Untrusted screen, which gave me the options of... What Should I Do?? Technical Details I Understand the Risks When I clicked I Understand the Risks, it showed a couple of paragraphs of info and a Add Exception button, which I clicked and that gave me a sub-screen where I could Get Certificate, View Certificate Status or Confirm Security Exception, which I did and the page I wanted loaded. Did you not see the Connection Untrusted screen?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190953 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:25.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/25.0 SeaMonkey/2.22 Build identifier: 20131023190942 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Lost email with upgrade
At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version.I am aware that the older version stored in Mozilla and the newer in Seamonkey. I installed v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgraded to the latest version. I have been able to retrieve my address book but not the lost emails. Can someone help me on this please? Thanks, Gita ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost email with upgrade
Gita Diem a écrit : At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version.I am aware that the older version stored in Mozilla and the newer in Seamonkey. I installed v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgraded to the latest version. I have been able to retrieve my address book but not the lost emails. Can someone help me on this please? The format of the emails hasn't changed, so it must be a problem with your old emails not being in your profile. There is a file called profiles.ini (at least on Linux and Microsoft systems), which gives the location of each profile. by default is of the form : [General] = first section StartWithLastProfile=0 [Profile0] = section for each profile Name=default IsRelative=1 Path=27tkd5t4.default This gives you the path to each profile. Under the profile is a directory called Mail Under Mail, there is a directory for each email account. (In your case probably something like pop.usa.net ) Your emails will in these account directories, with * and *.msf files for each mailbox, plus the filterlog.html, msgFilterRules.dat, and popstate.dat files. (The *.msf files are indexes to the emails. the *filter* files control filtering, and popstate.dat the downloaded emails still on the server.) The format of these files hasn't changed, so if you don't have any files under Mail, restoring your backup email files should work. If the Mail folder is missing, you can just recreate it. Hope that helps Thanks, Gita -- André ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.23 wrong icon in Junk colum and not working for news messages
Gabriel wrote: On 08/12/13 21.03, Hartmut Figge ha scritto: Gabriel: I don't have a file junkcol.png, I searched for it right now. In the source it is here: hafi@i5_64 ~ $ locate junkcol.png /home/hafi/hg-moz/src/suite/themes/classic/messenger/icons/junkcol.png Is it possibile to download it somewhere? http://mxr.mozilla.org/seamonkey/find?string=junkcol.pngtree=seamonkeyhint= Thank you! I will try later :) Do you know why the button Junk in the toolbar is greyed out for News messages? Junk is specific to Mail. ;) It was working for News too, until I updated to 2.23 And, much more important, the junk/not junk button that appears on top of any email message is not working at all! Eg. I open a mail message, even coming from someone I have in my address book,and a yellow bar appear stating it's junk. I click not junk and nothing happens :( The yellow bar stays there, it doesn't matter if I click the button in the status bar inside the message, or in the tool bar. This relaese of SM is buggy, I didn't have such problems with all the previous ones... Gabriel Have you tried creating a clean profile to see if the probems are specific tou your current profile? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Confidence is the feeling you have before you really understand the problem. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ A Clean House Is A Sign Of A Misspent Life ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ -- Ed, W3BNR Live every day as though it was your last day on earth, and one day you'll be right. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
W3BNR wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Not a complete set of directions. Better refer to Trane Francks' reply in this thread. As long as v. 2.0 finds and imports your old profile, you'll be fine. If not, you may have to go into the profile manager and import it by pointing it out to the program. Here, again, refer to Trane Francks' reply for guidance on where to look. Once you've done that, upgrading within v. 2.x should go smoothly. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lightning 2.8b1 not working with Seamonkey 2.23b1
Gerd Ott wrote: But if you hit the settings in Add-on-Manager , the (tabbed) Browser keeps freezing, can only be killed by taskmgr. That's an old known issue. Quoting from the release notes: Lightning options cannot be opened from the Add-ons Manager. Instead, Lightning preferences can be accessed from Preferences/Lightning HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. Or just copy the profile folder to a removable drive. -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/9/2013 4:49 PM, JAS wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. Or just copy the profile folder to a removable drive. I'm a big fan of Second Copy. I pick the directories and folders, and when and copy them to another computer drive on the network. Works great in the background without my input so I don't have to remember to start a backup. http://www.secondcopy.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Not a complete set of directions. Better refer to Trane Francks' reply in this thread. If you insist on automatic upgrades, you just might get a new profile, and that may or may not have destroyed the previous profile. If you are looking for lost mail search for the file INBOX. You could search for any file in the mail sub-directory, but that one is easy to remember and is rather unique. Here are some things that may effect your philosophy regarding Mozilla. With Mozilla products you never need to kill or deinstall anything. You can have as many versions of the apps and profiles as you have room on the HDD; and use each of them as you chose. On this machine I currently have a total of twelve SM/TB/FF profiles, and a total of fifteen SM/TB/FF apps, counting both OS/2 and Win versions. OS/2 and Win use the same profile files. I once had twenty SM when I was looking for the date/time of a bug creation. I never upgrade a Mozilla app. That destroys the previous and you might not want or be able to use the new one. The new version gets a new tree, and I only delete the older when I decide I don't want it any more. Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
hawker wrote: And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. Or just copy the profile folder to a removable drive. I'm a big fan of Second Copy. If you get a decent file manager you can save and modify Mozilla and do a lot more - like dealing with compressed files - and you only need learn one utility. This one is great. http://www.efsoftware.com/cw/e.htm Ray ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
On 12/9/2013 4:49 PM JAS submitted the following: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: W3BNR wrote: On 12/9/2013 2:17 PM Ed Mullen submitted the following: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Broken record rant alert!!! On average this subject comes up about once a week. If you get the mail out of the profile, and put it somewhere you want it, you won't lose it. Ray And first and foremost do daily backups of your entire profile. Which is easily done with MozBackup. Available at: http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Or with any reliable disk backup utility. Or just copy the profile folder to a removable drive. True, but since I keep all SM stuff in its default directory (except for cache files) MozBackup creates one nice file which I can put on my thumb drive - take it to my Linux laptop and transfer just what I want by using it's check boxes. I might want to only update the bookmark file. Done in less than a minute. Very little chance of operator error. -- Ed, W3BNR Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ADMIN: List policy
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Philip Taylor wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BTW, why would you set followup to /dev/null? Yet another way of gumming up the works? Why are you even here if you are so opposed to what we do? Because not only is this current digression completely unrelated to the focus of this list (i.e., Seamonkey), it is also completely unrelated to anything Mozilla-specific at all. Since I give my e-mail in clear in every message, you are perfectly at liberty to continue the debate off-list if you so wish, as per the guidance from the list moderator : I purposely choose not to keep my views on the purpose and policies of the list secret That's seems odd but it's your choice. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to Manage Invalid/Override Security certificate
Daniel wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: After successfully logging in to United Healthcare web site, I select the option Find Providers When I do, I get the message that that page is not trusted and the Technical Details states that it using an invalid certificate (See below) Is there any way I can modify anything in SM (2.22.1) Manage Certificates to work around this? FWIW, I have similar problems with IE8, Firefox and Google Chrome. Technical Details epcp-prod-e-eprovider.uhc.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for epcprod-e.uhc.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) Arnie, I just clicked on a link for OpenMandriva 2014 and got a This Connection is Untrusted screen, which gave me the options of... What Should I Do?? Technical Details I Understand the Risks When I clicked I Understand the Risks, it showed a couple of paragraphs of info and a Add Exception button, which I clicked and that gave me a sub-screen where I could Get Certificate, View Certificate Status or Confirm Security Exception, which I did and the page I wanted loaded. Did you not see the Connection Untrusted screen?? I don't get the I Understand the Risks or Add Exception screens (I used to on previous versions of SM). I am running SM 2.22.1 on Windows 7 64 bit. I did talk to United Healthcare Tech Support and they are aware of the problem. Still don't know why I don't get the screens. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Ray Davison wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ray Davison wrote: Gita Diem wrote: Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Search for INBOX. Not a complete set of directions. Better refer to Trane Francks' reply in this thread. If you insist on automatic upgrades, ... I don't, and that's not what the OP described... you just might get a new profile, and that may or may not have destroyed the previous profile. The most likely scenario here is that SM 2.21 didn't recognize and import the old SM 1.13 profile. Since they are stored in different locations, it's highly UNlikely that the old profile was affected at all. If you are looking for lost mail search for the file INBOX. You could search for any file in the mail sub-directory, but that one is easy to remember and is rather unique. True. But having found it, what is the OP supposed to do? You didn't say. Here are some things that may [a]ffect your philosophy regarding Mozilla. With Mozilla products you never need to kill or deinstall anything. You can have as many versions of the apps and profiles as you have room on the HDD; and use each of them as you chose. True in principle. But do I want my email history scattered over half-a-dozen profiles? I think not. One of the features of SM I really like is that everything I've ever sent or received since the late 1990s is in one place. Intact. On this machine I currently have a total of twelve SM/TB/FF profiles, and a total of fifteen SM/TB/FF apps, counting both OS/2 and Win versions. OS/2 and Win use the same profile files. I once had twenty SM when I was looking for the date/time of a bug creation. I never upgrade a Mozilla app. That destroys the previous and you might not want or be able to use the new one. The new version gets a new tree, and I only delete the older when I decide I don't want it any more. That's fine if you're a beta tester. If you live out here in the real world, not so much. If you're advising users to be really careful protecting their files, then you might advise them to import their old profiles to a new location when installing the new version, and having successfully tested them, discard the old ones. But that's a lot more trouble than most people want to go to. A much simpler way to go is to shut SM down before a backup, run the backup, upgrade SM, and see if it worked. If all is well, no problem. If there's a problem, restore the profile from the backup and again no problem. At most, you lose a couple of emails that came or went during testing. The key is to have a backup, which is good computing practice anyway. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: ADMIN: List policy
RGrannus wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: I purposely choose not to keep my views on the purpose and policies of the list secret That's seems odd but it's your choice. Are you overlooking the word not above? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to Manage Invalid/Override Security certificate
On 12/9/2013 3:54 PM, Arnie Goetchius wrote: Daniel wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: After successfully logging in to United Healthcare web site, I select the option Find Providers When I do, I get the message that that page is not trusted and the Technical Details states that it using an invalid certificate (See below) Is there any way I can modify anything in SM (2.22.1) Manage Certificates to work around this? FWIW, I have similar problems with IE8, Firefox and Google Chrome. Technical Details epcp-prod-e-eprovider.uhc.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for epcprod-e.uhc.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) Arnie, I just clicked on a link for OpenMandriva 2014 and got a This Connection is Untrusted screen, which gave me the options of... What Should I Do?? Technical Details I Understand the Risks When I clicked I Understand the Risks, it showed a couple of paragraphs of info and a Add Exception button, which I clicked and that gave me a sub-screen where I could Get Certificate, View Certificate Status or Confirm Security Exception, which I did and the page I wanted loaded. Did you not see the Connection Untrusted screen?? I don't get the I Understand the Risks or Add Exception screens (I used to on previous versions of SM). I am running SM 2.22.1 on Windows 7 64 bit. I did talk to United Healthcare Tech Support and they are aware of the problem. Still don't know why I don't get the screens. I believe the I Understand the Risks or Add Exception were intentionally removed some versions ago in an attempt to discourage users from accepting discrepant site certificates. Instead, the convoluted process that I described earlier in this thread is the only way to make exceptions. All this proves that creating a nanny state is not a government monopoly. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Where does your elected official stand? Which politicians refuse to tell us where they stand? See the non-partisan Project Vote Smart at http://votesmart.org/. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to Manage Invalid/Override Security certificate
David E. Ross: I believe the I Understand the Risks or Add Exception were intentionally removed some versions ago in an attempt to discourage users from accepting discrepant site certificates. Instead, the convoluted process that I described earlier in this thread is the only way to make exceptions. This screenshot was just taken with the latest trunk SM. http://www.triffids.de/pub/screenshot/sm131210.png Hartmut ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: How to Manage Invalid/Override Security certificate
In news:oi6dnst9louoxtvpnz2dnuvz_osdn...@mozilla.org, Arnie Goetchius arnie.goetchius@invalid.domain wrote: Daniel wrote: Arnie Goetchius wrote: After successfully logging in to United Healthcare web site, I select the option Find Providers When I do, I get the message that that page is not trusted and the Technical Details states that it using an invalid certificate (See below) Is there any way I can modify anything in SM (2.22.1) Manage Certificates to work around this? FWIW, I have similar problems with IE8, Firefox and Google Chrome. Technical Details epcp-prod-e-eprovider.uhc.com uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate is only valid for epcprod-e.uhc.com (Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain) Arnie, I just clicked on a link for OpenMandriva 2014 and got a This Connection is Untrusted screen, which gave me the options of... What Should I Do?? Technical Details I Understand the Risks When I clicked I Understand the Risks, it showed a couple of paragraphs of info and a Add Exception button, which I clicked and that gave me a sub-screen where I could Get Certificate, View Certificate Status or Confirm Security Exception, which I did and the page I wanted loaded. Did you not see the Connection Untrusted screen?? I don't get the I Understand the Risks or Add Exception screens (I used to on previous versions of SM). I am running SM 2.22.1 on Windows 7 64 bit. I did talk to United Healthcare Tech Support and they are aware of the problem. Still don't know why I don't get the screens. I also don't know why you don't get the I Understand the Risks option; it should be on the same screen where you see the Technical Details. I do get all the options, using SM 2.22.1 with GNU/Linux, and Hartmut's just posted that he gets them with the latest trunk SM. I would try visiting the site in safe mode; hopefully in safe mode, you'll get be able to add the exception permanently, then you could go back to normal operation. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.23 wrong icon in Junk colum and not working for news messages
Gabriel wrote: .. I updated to 2.23 . This relaese of SM is buggy, I didn't have such problems with all the previous ones... Gabriel 2.23 is not a release, it's still in Beta. 2.22.1 is the latest release. http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/ GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert
In news:mailman.12075.1385561002.23841.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org, Philip Taylor p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: BTW, why would you set followup to /dev/null? Yet another way of gumming up the works? Why are you even here if you are so opposed to what we do? Because not only is this current digression completely unrelated to the focus of this list (i.e., Seamonkey), it is also completely unrelated to anything Mozilla-specific at all. Since I give my e-mail in clear in every message, you are perfectly at liberty to continue the debate off-list if you so wish, as per the guidance from the list moderator When Followup-To is set, it would be better to make a note of it in the body of the message, since many people don't routinely look at those headers. Setting Followup-To: mozilla.general is one way to continue a discussion in public. Setting Followup-To: poster is a way to redirect the discussion to non-list e-mail. IMO, setting it to the bitbucket, /dev/null, is not a good idea, mostly because it's almost guaranteed to draw negative reactions. On the topic that launched this subthread, if someone receives help via off-list e-mail, IMO the best thing to do is to come back to the group/list and summarize; there's no need to post the e-mails verbatim or to mention the name(s) of the sender(s). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost emails
Trane Francks wrote: On 12/9/13 5:39 PM +0900, Gita Diem wrote: At the prompting of the Seamonkey Project, I downloaded the new version 2.22.1 to my Mac OS X 10.5.8. I previously used 1.1.13 version. Now I have lost all emails, address book etc. How can I retrieve this? Thanks. As far as I understand it, the upgrade path from v1.x would be to install v2.0 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.0 and after that, upgrade to the latest version. So, download 2.0, trash your 2.22.1, delete ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey/, install 2.0 and then see whether your mail is back. If not, restore your profile in ~/Library/Application Support/ from backup and try again. From memory, the old 1.x branch stored its profile in ~/Library/Application Support/Mozilla whereas the newer releases migrated the profile into ~/Library/Application Support/SeaMonkey. The latest releases to not do the migration directly, which is why installing 2.0 is required. Best of luck with it. trane It's just ~/Library/Mozilla on the old 1.x stuff but he'll have an additional problem in that you need OS X 10.6 to run SM 2.14 or higher; http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.14/ GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Sea Monkey shortcomings
One would think that the send command would be prominent on the mail toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it belongs under the file drop-down menu. I still haven't found where history is. Other aspects of the toolbars are confusing or inappropriate. It seems only a very small number of commands can be moved to a toobar. For example, the directions in Help for creating or working with the personal toolbar have errors or just don't work. To compose a new post, the group(s) name must be added manually. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings
RGrannus wrote: --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com Please search your Avast options for the place to turn off the insertion of the above spam. Thanks for your consideration. It's caused by your recently updated version, and it also has a malformed sig delimiter which causes it to be quoted by the unwary. You do not need to scan outgoing or incoming email or news posts. http://thundercloud.net/infoave/tutorials/email-scanning/index.htm -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings
RGrannus wrote: One would think that the send command would be prominent on the mail toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it belongs under the file drop-down menu. I still haven't found where history is. Other aspects of the toolbars are confusing or inappropriate. It seems only a very small number of commands can be moved to a toobar. For example, the directions in Help for creating or working with the personal toolbar have errors or just don't work. To compose a new post, the group(s) name must be added manually. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com SM Help could stand some revision/clarification, but the key to using most of SM is Customizing the window Toolbars to your own work habits - each one is somewhat independent; forex: I put Get Message, Compose, Reply, Reply All, Forward, File, and Mark buttons on my Mail Toolbar, and Send, Address, Attach, Spell, Security, and Save buttons on my Compose Toolbar a long time ago. And I use the SM Modern Theme because I think it's cleaner looking...YMMV. History is under the Go menu in the Browser Taskbar. I general I haven't many issues with the basic SM interface as presented in the Modern Theme - just all the UE related bugs that never seem to get fixed... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: OT: Error code: sec_error_ocsp_invalid_signing_cert
»Q« wrote: When Followup-To is set, it would be better to make a note of it in the body of the message, since many people don't routinely look at those headers. Setting Followup-To: mozilla.general is one way to continue a discussion in public. Setting Followup-To: poster is a way to redirect the discussion to non-list e-mail. IMO, setting it to the bitbucket, /dev/null, is not a good idea, mostly because it's almost guaranteed to draw negative reactions. On the topic that launched this subthread, if someone receives help via off-list e-mail, IMO the best thing to do is to come back to the group/list and summarize; there's no need to post the e-mails verbatim or to mention the name(s) of the sender(s). Agreed. That would have satisfied the objective I was pursuing. Of course, in this case the help was given here and only the fact of its success and the OP's gratitude were sent privately. Still, a brief statement that the public help was successful would allow other readers to make use of it and/or avoid wasting time trying to help. I think we've run this into the ground by now. Let's stop. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Sea Monkey shortcomings
RGrannus wrote: One would think that the send command would be prominent on the mail toolbar. It took me a while to find it. I don't think it belongs under the file drop-down menu. I still haven't found where history is. Other aspects of the toolbars are confusing or inappropriate. It seems only a very small number of commands can be moved to a toobar. For example, the directions in Help for creating or working with the personal toolbar have errors or just don't work. To compose a new post, the group(s) name must be added manually. On my system, when I have a mail composition window open, the buttons are (left to right): Send, Address, Attach, Spell. Security, Save. First on the list seems prominent enough for me. Or have you hidden the toolbar? If so, look for a small speckled rectangle just under the word Subject: and click it. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
64-bit build on Windows - htguard.info?
Till 6 months ago, one could get unofficial 64 bit Windows builds for Firefox, Seamonkey Thunderbird from here - https://code.google.com/p/htguardmozilla. However there's been no update since 2.19. Anyone know of any other place that offers 64 bit Windows builds? Speaking of Firefox, even the Waterfox project has stalled - no updates since version 18 several months ago. - If a train station is a place where a train stops, what's a workstation? - ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
