Re: IMAP Mail Question

2015-07-13 Thread erendil
Larry a écrit :
 Ed Mullen wrote:
 Larry wrote on 7/12/2015 8:35 PM:
 Is there a way to synchronize the most recent 30 days of mail between
 the server and 2 or more computers and save messages over 31 days old
 locally (keep local copies on each computer) and delete them from the
 server?

 Assuming you're meaning using SeaMonkey, I'm not sure what your issue is.

 Mine is set so that every computer I use has the same IMAP accounts and
 all of them show all messages, archives, folders, etc. going back to the
 beginning of time.  I would think the only limitation would be your
 email provider and their limits on storage.  Mine is Gigabytes so I've
 yet to run into an issue.

 If you're having trouble please tell us how your IMAP account(s) are
 configured.

 
 Yes I am using SeaMonkey.  My email provider limits each account to 2 GB
 and one of my accounts is at 1.74GB, lots of PDF's attached to the emails.
 
 I want to preserve the mails and attachments and locally is better for me.
 
 Synchronization is great because the computers I use occasionally (once
 a week) match my main computer.  But, I would like to remove older
 messages (30 days) from the server without deleting them from all my
 computers also.  I have found that deleting from the server deletes from
 the local computers also.  I am afraid to change any of my settings
 because I do not want to inadvertently delete my older local messages.
 Hopefully any changes will not delete any older messages.
 
 My current synchronization settings are:
 
 Keep messages for this account on this computer
 Synchronize all messages locally regardless of age
 Don't delete any messages
 Always keep flagged messages
 
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

You could use mail filters to achieve that. For example, I have rules to
make copies of some of my IMAP mail to local folders at reception.

You can setup a rule to delete mail before a specific date and apply the
rule to your IMAP folders. However it doesn't look that Seamonkey
supports rules like 'older than 90 days' which would be nice.

See this:
http://www.freeemailtutorials.com/mozillaMail/filtersInMozillaMail.cwd

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Re: IMAP Mail Question

2015-07-13 Thread G. Ross

Larry wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Larry wrote on 7/12/2015 8:35 PM:

Is there a way to synchronize the most recent 30 days of mail between
the server and 2 or more computers and save messages over 31 days old
locally (keep local copies on each computer) and delete them from the
server?


Assuming you're meaning using SeaMonkey, I'm not sure what your issue is.

Mine is set so that every computer I use has the same IMAP accounts and
all of them show all messages, archives, folders, etc. going back to the
beginning of time.  I would think the only limitation would be your
email provider and their limits on storage.  Mine is Gigabytes so I've
yet to run into an issue.

If you're having trouble please tell us how your IMAP account(s) are
configured.



Yes I am using SeaMonkey.  My email provider limits each account to 2 GB
and one of my accounts is at 1.74GB, lots of PDF's attached to the emails.

I want to preserve the mails and attachments and locally is better for me.

Synchronization is great because the computers I use occasionally (once
a week) match my main computer.  But, I would like to remove older
messages (30 days) from the server without deleting them from all my
computers also.  I have found that deleting from the server deletes from
the local computers also.  I am afraid to change any of my settings
because I do not want to inadvertently delete my older local messages.
Hopefully any changes will not delete any older messages.

My current synchronization settings are:

Keep messages for this account on this computer
Synchronize all messages locally regardless of age
Don't delete any messages
Always keep flagged messages

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

I move my keepers to archives, but now I don't know if they are still 
on the server.  So you have got me wondering about the usefulness of 
archives.


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Re: Switched to Firefox/Thunderbird on my laptop

2015-07-13 Thread Daniel

On 12/07/2015 9:49 PM, A Williams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 12/07/2015 4:41 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

With being almost three months behind on security updates I couldn't
take a chance anymore.  I left my desktop system up on Seamonkey but
I've switched over to Firefox/Thunderbird on my laptop since I never
know from where I'll be connecting from one week to the next.

Fortunately, the transition was easy enough.  Just had to copy the
entire contents of the Seamonkey folder into the Firefox and Thunderbird
folders after they were installed.  I did notice that although Firefox
installed as a sub-folder in my existing .mozilla folder, Thunderbird
created its profile directory outside in its own .thunderbird folder.  I
thought that was a bit odd.


Jamie, does this mean that when you install a new Firefox version (not
upgrade, but complete new version) will the new Firefox write itself
over the top of your profile??



No.  firefox and seamonkey are both subfolders under the .mozilla
directory.  That has been the case for many years now.


Not a problem!! Just, the way I read Jamie's post, the profile was being 
created as a sub-directory of the actual Firefox program install, so, if 
you deleted the Firefox program, you would also delete the profile.


If that's not the case, no problem!!

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SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114

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Flash plug-in

2015-07-13 Thread Paul Bergsagel
I got the message in SeaMonkey Shockwave Flash is venerable. Use with 
caution yesterday and updated to the latest up to date flash plug-in.


Today I get the same warning about flash. I clicked on the add-ons 
manager under the Tools menu and clicked on Check to see if your 
plugins are up to date which takes me to 
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/  only to inform me that all 
versions of Adobe's Flash Player are currently vulnerable.


BTW I am using MacOS X. How safe is it to activate flash when it has 
been blocked by Seamonkey because it is outdated?


Thanks,
Paul.
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Re: Flash plug-in

2015-07-13 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Paul Bergsagel wrote:

I got the message in SeaMonkey Shockwave Flash is venerable. Use with caution 
yesterday
and updated to the latest up to date flash plug-in.

Today I get the same warning about flash. I clicked on the add-ons manager 
under the Tools
menu and clicked on Check to see if your plugins are up to date which takes 
me to
https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/plugincheck/  only to inform me that all versions 
of Adobe's
Flash Player are currently vulnerable.

BTW I am using MacOS X. How safe is it to activate flash when it has been 
blocked by
Seamonkey because it is outdated?

Thanks,
Paul.


https://helpx.adobe.com/security/products/flash-player/apsa15-04.html

How safe?  That's relative to YOUR browsing habits and computer knowledge.
I am not the least bit concerned about my machines.
The small kids next door probably already have their computers infected.

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Re: Adobe Flash player v18.0 b203 plugin crashing?

2015-07-13 Thread Ant

I am not crashing but I can no longer go to full screen any more.
However, I am on SM 2.36. It's likely something that's not fixed in
2.33.1 that is in later version of SM. You could always try the 2.35
contrib build
(https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/)
which *should* wind up being what is basically built from FF 38.1ESR
release to be released soon. Keep your installer for 2.33.1 handy in
case you need to revert back.


Is that an official build that QA testers are using for the final release?


I think so yes. It was Phil Chee who was mentioning it being built in
the How Dead is Seamonkey thread from a couple days ago.

Pasted here for your info:


Bug 1177041 - (SM2.35-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be uplifted to
comm-release for SeaMonkey 2.35
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177041

https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-07-07#Roundtable_-_Personal_Status_Updates
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-07-07#Ratty


Thanks. From those links, I don't see them mention about Flash?


I would imagine you'd have to dig through the Firefox bugs to see what
Flash stuff got fixed between FF36 and FF39. So what I am saying is
that between SM 2.33.1 and SM 2.35 (or 2.36), this crashing may have
been fixed but you would have to find out that info on your own.
Personally, I'm having good luck thus far on 64-bit SM 2.36.


It seems like Firefox and other Mozilla web browsers are having crashes 
too. Also, Adobe will be releasing another version this week so I am 
going to wait. I think this is an Adobe's issue, not Mozilla's and 
SeaMonkey's.

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Re: Switched to Firefox/Thunderbird on my laptop

2015-07-13 Thread A Williams

Daniel wrote:

On 12/07/2015 9:49 PM, A Williams wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 12/07/2015 4:41 AM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

With being almost three months behind on security updates I couldn't
take a chance anymore.  I left my desktop system up on Seamonkey but
I've switched over to Firefox/Thunderbird on my laptop since I never
know from where I'll be connecting from one week to the next.

Fortunately, the transition was easy enough.  Just had to copy the
entire contents of the Seamonkey folder into the Firefox and
Thunderbird
folders after they were installed.  I did notice that although Firefox
installed as a sub-folder in my existing .mozilla folder, Thunderbird
created its profile directory outside in its own .thunderbird
folder.  I
thought that was a bit odd.


Jamie, does this mean that when you install a new Firefox version (not
upgrade, but complete new version) will the new Firefox write itself
over the top of your profile??



No.  firefox and seamonkey are both subfolders under the .mozilla
directory.  That has been the case for many years now.


Not a problem!! Just, the way I read Jamie's post, the profile was being
created as a sub-directory of the actual Firefox program install, so, if
you deleted the Firefox program, you would also delete the profile.

If that's not the case, no problem!!



Jaime is posting under Linux (the user agent), and a directory called 
.mozilla is also a clear indication that we are not talking Windows 
here.  The install directory is most probably under /usr (or possibly 
/opt) but the data is under /home.
Having said that, there really is no problem here - that's simply the 
way things are.


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Re: Windows 10

2015-07-13 Thread NFN Smith

S Slicer wrote:

Does anyone know if SeaMonkey will work on Windows 10?



I don't see any reason why it wouldn't. Despite changes in UI, it's not 
really more than yet another incremental update: Vista - Win 7 - Win 8 
- Win 8.1 - Win 10.


I have Win 10 running in a VM, and I haven't tried Seamonkey there, but 
I haven't had any problems with Firefox.


Smith

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Re: Adobe Flash player v18.0 b203 plugin crashing?

2015-07-13 Thread Ant

...

I am not crashing but I can no longer go to full screen any more.
However, I am on SM 2.36. It's likely something that's not fixed in
2.33.1 that is in later version of SM. You could always try the 2.35
contrib build
(https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-release-windows32/)
which *should* wind up being what is basically built from FF 38.1ESR
release to be released soon. Keep your installer for 2.33.1 handy in
case you need to revert back.


Is that an official build that QA testers are using for the final release?


I think so yes. It was Phil Chee who was mentioning it being built in
the How Dead is Seamonkey thread from a couple days ago.

Pasted here for your info:


Bug 1177041 - (SM2.35-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be uplifted to
comm-release for SeaMonkey 2.35
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177041

https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-07-07#Roundtable_-_Personal_Status_Updates
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-07-07#Ratty


Thanks. From those links, I don't see them mention about Flash?
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Re: SeaMonkey Update Fails Because A 2nd Copy Is Running ???

2015-07-13 Thread Rick Merrill

HenriK wrote on 07/12/2015 4:58 PM:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

HenriK wrote:


In trying to update a copy of SM v.2.30 to the latest version on a
Win7Home Premium PC, the update fails and an error message is
returned claiming a 2nd version of SM is running.  After a
file-by-file search using Windows Explorer, I couldn't find any
evidence of a 2nd copy of SM but I wasn't clear about what evidence I
should have been looking for.


Try looking at the Processes tab of Windows Task Manager
(CTRL-SHIFT-ESC). Do you see any SeaMonkeys there?

This sometimes occurs when SM doesn't shut down correctly.


Thanks for the thought.  I looked in Task Manager and didn't see
anything beyond the single copy I thought I was running.

I wonder if the problem could be caused by some stray bit of material
lurking in the registry?

If I tell Control Panel to deinstall SeaMonkey, my understanding is that
the profile, mail, bookmarks, etc., do NOT get deleted.  Is that a
correct understanding?  If so, might a SM deinstallation and
installation of the most recent SM version solve my problem? Or, would
a deinstallation/new installation create more trouble?


Precisely that advice has been given many times in this forum by
authoritative experts, just as you say.

Worth a try, once you've shut down all copies/versions of SM. If you
still get the error message even when WTM says you're clear, post back.

I am really confused. Win7 Home Task Manager consistently indicates no SM is 
running after a deinstall of v.2.30. Fortunately, my profile info was left 
untouched by the v.2.30 deinstall process.  BUT, I still get the error message that 
the v.2.33.1, the newest version won't install because another copy of SM (version 
not stated) is running.  After clicking past the error message window, however, I 
find that v.2.33.1 has, in fact, been installed.  How do I get rid of this nuisance 
error message?


Although I have been around since the MS-DOS days and don't really understand much 
about any Windows version after W98, I can't help but wonder if some odd bid of 
something has been left by the SM v.2.30 deinstall process in the registry or some 
other obscure place or that the v.2.33.1 install mechanism code fails to do 
something it was supposed to do.  Again, any ideas on how to get rid of the 
nuisance error message and what is causing this problem?


Thanks, in advance for pointers to tutorials, and any suggestions or advice.
Knowing nothing about the issue, I am reminded of times when I had to reboot the 
whole computer because some program had left an in-use flag on a file that a program 
needed and only a reboot would clear it.

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Re: help needed

2015-07-13 Thread Ed Mullen

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 7/13/2015 6:10 PM:

Earl Hicks wrote:

working on a 2nd computer to convey messages.
On the other computer I can receive mail but can not send mail.
the Alert I receive when sending any mail is
An error ocurred while sending mail.  The mail server responded:
Authentication is required  to
send mail as ehxxxs...@suddenlink.net.  Please verify that your email
address is correct in your
Mail preferences and try again.

One computer works fine - 2nd computer with same settings has the
problem


They may have the same settings for the *incoming* server but what about
the *outgoing* SMTP server settings?




Ditto.  Something is NOT the same between the two computers/setup.

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Re: help needed

2015-07-13 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Earl Hicks wrote:

working on a 2nd computer to convey messages.
On the other computer I can receive mail but can not send mail.
the Alert I receive when sending any mail is
An error ocurred while sending mail.  The mail server responded:
Authentication is required  to
send mail as ehxxxs...@suddenlink.net.  Please verify that your email
address is correct in your
Mail preferences and try again.

One computer works fine - 2nd computer with same settings has the
problem


They may have the same settings for the *incoming* server but what about 
the *outgoing* SMTP server settings?



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help needed

2015-07-13 Thread Earl Hicks

working on a 2nd computer to convey messages.
On the other computer I can receive mail but can not send mail.
the Alert I receive when sending any mail is
An error ocurred while sending mail.  The mail server responded: 
Authentication is required  to
send mail as ehxxxs...@suddenlink.net.  Please verify that your email 
address is correct in your

Mail preferences and try again.

One computer works fine - 2nd computer with same settings has the 
problem

Can anyone help me fix this?

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help needed posting

2015-07-13 Thread Earl Hicks

Jon  Ed were right on
there was a slight difference in the smtp addressing

Thanks for the help
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Re: IMAP Mail Question

2015-07-13 Thread Mason83
On 13/07/2015 05:13, Larry wrote:
 Ed Mullen wrote:
 Larry wrote on 7/12/2015 8:35 PM:
 Is there a way to synchronize the most recent 30 days of mail between
 the server and 2 or more computers and save messages over 31 days old
 locally (keep local copies on each computer) and delete them from the
 server?

 Assuming you're meaning using SeaMonkey, I'm not sure what your issue is.

 Mine is set so that every computer I use has the same IMAP accounts and
 all of them show all messages, archives, folders, etc. going back to the
 beginning of time.  I would think the only limitation would be your
 email provider and their limits on storage.  Mine is Gigabytes so I've
 yet to run into an issue.

 If you're having trouble please tell us how your IMAP account(s) are
 configured.

 
 Yes I am using SeaMonkey.  My email provider limits each account to 2 GB 
 and one of my accounts is at 1.74GB, lots of PDF's attached to the emails.
 
 I want to preserve the mails and attachments and locally is better for me.
 
 Synchronization is great because the computers I use occasionally (once 
 a week) match my main computer.  But, I would like to remove older 
 messages (30 days) from the server without deleting them from all my 
 computers also.  I have found that deleting from the server deletes from 
 the local computers also.  I am afraid to change any of my settings 
 because I do not want to inadvertently delete my older local messages. 
 Hopefully any changes will not delete any older messages.
 
 My current synchronization settings are:
 
 Keep messages for this account on this computer
 Synchronize all messages locally regardless of age
 Don't delete any messages
 Always keep flagged messages
 
 Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe you could manually move older messages to your
Local Folders hierarchy?

Or you could create a folder in your IMAP account, and uncheck
the synchronize bit to make it only local (but you run the
risk of one day checking it by accident).

Regards.

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Re: IMAP Mail Question

2015-07-13 Thread Ray_Net

Mason83 wrote on 13/07/2015 07:58:

On 13/07/2015 05:13, Larry wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Larry wrote on 7/12/2015 8:35 PM:

Is there a way to synchronize the most recent 30 days of mail between
the server and 2 or more computers and save messages over 31 days old
locally (keep local copies on each computer) and delete them from the
server?

Assuming you're meaning using SeaMonkey, I'm not sure what your issue is.

Mine is set so that every computer I use has the same IMAP accounts and
all of them show all messages, archives, folders, etc. going back to the
beginning of time.  I would think the only limitation would be your
email provider and their limits on storage.  Mine is Gigabytes so I've
yet to run into an issue.

If you're having trouble please tell us how your IMAP account(s) are
configured.


Yes I am using SeaMonkey.  My email provider limits each account to 2 GB
and one of my accounts is at 1.74GB, lots of PDF's attached to the emails.

I want to preserve the mails and attachments and locally is better for me.

Synchronization is great because the computers I use occasionally (once
a week) match my main computer.  But, I would like to remove older
messages (30 days) from the server without deleting them from all my
computers also.  I have found that deleting from the server deletes from
the local computers also.  I am afraid to change any of my settings
because I do not want to inadvertently delete my older local messages.
Hopefully any changes will not delete any older messages.

My current synchronization settings are:

Keep messages for this account on this computer
Synchronize all messages locally regardless of age
Don't delete any messages
Always keep flagged messages

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

Maybe you could manually move older messages to your
Local Folders hierarchy?

Or you could create a folder in your IMAP account, and uncheck
the synchronize bit to make it only local (but you run the
risk of one day checking it by accident).

Regards.


I prefer using pop3 for a local storage 
But the problem with pop3 is that 2 differents computers cannot be 
synchronized for the mail client.

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