SM 2.39 OS X too much memory used

2016-01-16 Thread Gabriel 

Hi everybody,

SeaMonkey for OS X is using *a lot* of RAM!
It starts with about 2 GB, never uses less than 1.7 and after a few hours it 
can grow up to 3+ GB. Also the "compressed memory" (with EL Capitan) is not 
more than 10% even when SM is put in background.
I do have a lot of windows and tabs, but I've set up to laod them only when 
accessing their websites, so I don't think that memory usage is normal.
I have similar settings with Firefox and it's using much less RAM, especially 
when it's in background.


Is it something I can do on my side to ameliorate this situation?

thank you.
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Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?

2016-01-16 Thread Ray_Net 

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 13:27:

Mason83 wrote:

On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote:


The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such
a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html
mail ?


In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions?

Auto Resize Image
Auto Compress File
Auto Resize JPEG

The documentation for what you are doing is probably this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images 



From that link:
Compared to using the "Insert" menu or drag & drop method, pasting 
will usually involve recoding of the image, thus may change quality 
and size. Thus, the other two methods are preferred to retain the 
original format of an image.


That suggests that using Insert > Image *doesn't* recode the image. So 
if you want to control the compression used, perhaps the easiest way 
is to use an image editor (e.g. GIMP) to save a copy of the file with 
the desired compression, and use Insert > Image to include that file 
as an image in the email.


GIMP or IRFANVIEW  the same problem. I had created the file saving 
as .jpg file with 100% quality.
This image on disk was added in the plain-text mail and opened with 
Irfanview the copy/paste into the html mail.
In the both method SM creates mail-data from bits find on disk file on 
disk and from pixels fnd in copy/paste.
This is SM who do a different treatment. For the plain-text, it's only 
and expand and for the html mail it's a compression followed by a expansion.
Gimp or Irfanview are not involved and cannot increase the length of the 
picture in the html mail.

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Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?

2016-01-16 Thread Mason83 
On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote:

> The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such 
> a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html 
> mail ?

In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions?

Auto Resize Image
Auto Compress File
Auto Resize JPEG

The documentation for what you are doing is probably this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images

Regards.

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Re: Seamonkey: failure to load

2016-01-16 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne 

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Ian wrote on 1/15/2016 10:45 PM:

I've been able to download, install, and run Seamonkey before so
I'm not exactly sure what is going on this time.


And, based on you post, neither are we!


I looked through the forums and community pages and found various
things pertaining to the two problems I had but none covered the
two together.


Well, we have no idea of either of your two problems based on this
post.


I'm sending a screenshot of my terminal after running ./seamonkey


And, um, WHEN are you sending the screenshot?


AFAIK attachments are blocked here, so he probably meant well but failed
to accomplish it. Ian, you'll have to put the screenshot somewhere else
and post a link here.


Or, you can probably copy and paste the text from the terminal into the 
body of an email. Which would also be easier for others to search for 
anything relevant.


Exactly how to do that depends on the terminal you're using and how it's 
configured. A few methods I've seen:
- Windows console without "QuickEdit Mode" enabled: Right-click > Mark, 
drag the mouse to select an area, then right-click and it immediately 
copies (no menu to choose "copy" from)
- Windows console with "QuickEdit Mode" enabled: Just drag the mouse to 
select an area, then right-click
- Some Linux consoles: Drag the mouse to select an area, then 
right-click > Copy

- Other consoles: Possibly some variation on the above

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Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

2016-01-16 Thread Daniel 

On 16/01/2016 3:33 AM, Philip Chee wrote:

On 14/01/2016 21:40, Ant wrote:

ewongMc I'm currently stalled on getting 2.40 released..
I'm very sorry.








Bummer. :(


Lets all wish ewong a speedy recovery and thank him for all the
work he's done in the past to keep Seamonkey up and running... i
just love using Seamonkey...


Ditto. Wait, what happened to him? Did I miss something?


Accident happened (not life threatening). He's out of hospital but his
arm is in a splint which means typing is really hard.

Phil

Hey, Ewong, typing one handed is relatively easy . when you've got 
almost forty years practice at it!! ;-P


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Happy Holiday Season to one and all.

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Re: Seamonkey: failure to load

2016-01-16 Thread ergonomical69 
On Friday, January 15, 2016 at 10:45:22 PM UTC-5, Ian wrote:
> I've been able to download, install, and run Seamonkey before so I'm
> not exactly sure what is going on this time. I looked through the
> forums and community pages and found various things pertaining to  the
> two problems I had but none covered the two together. I'm sending a
> screenshot of my terminal after running ./seamonkey

Sorry about that guys, that probably aggravated you. You guys are asses...and I 
love it lol  I don't when I originally sent the message to to moderator, the 
attachment was there, when I realized I needed to subscribe (I get ahead of 
myself at times) I signed up, then went to forward it from my email client and 
I, with a faulty assumption, thought it was going to sent the previously 
attached jpeg. I was profoundly wrong...Anyway..I'm running Linux 4.2.0-23 
Ubuntu (Wily)  I realize that very well could be the issue, but I thought 
unlikely. It says failure something to the effect of a XPCOMGlue error in 
libxul.so /w a failure to load libasound.so.2 but (Not included in Seamonkey 
download) but I already had that particular library installed. XPCOM could not 
load...but without further adieu...the screen shot 
http://hoa.iwarp.com/img/seamonkey_error.jpg  <-- freeservers.com hosted site 
...as for comments on the different ways to have sent the info (copy/paste, 
blah-foobar blah, etc
 ) "To each his own fucked up ways" lol
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Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?

2016-01-16 Thread Ray_Net 

Mason83 wrote on 16/01/2016 11:16:

On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote:


The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such
a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html
mail ?

In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions?

Auto Resize Image
Auto Compress File
Auto Resize JPEG

The documentation for what you are doing is probably this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images

Regards.


That's exactly the full explanation of my research. Thanks !
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Re: seamonkey UI

2016-01-16 Thread A Williams 

Michael Ströder wrote:

Paul Gheno wrote:

the advent of mobile technology has changed the way GUIs are thoughts
the reason why is screen size.


All Seamonkey users I know of have desktop systems.

Ciao, Michael.



I have also used it on a laptops for years as well.  Just saying.
The only real difference in configuration needed is that I keep POP3 
input messages for 3 (?) months or until I delete them.

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Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?

2016-01-16 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne 

Mason83 wrote:

On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote:


The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such
a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html
mail ?


In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions?

Auto Resize Image
Auto Compress File
Auto Resize JPEG

The documentation for what you are doing is probably this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images


From that link:

Compared to using the "Insert" menu or drag & drop method, pasting will usually 
involve recoding of the image, thus may change quality and size. Thus, the other two methods 
are preferred to retain the original format of an image.


That suggests that using Insert > Image *doesn't* recode the image. So 
if you want to control the compression used, perhaps the easiest way is 
to use an image editor (e.g. GIMP) to save a copy of the file with the 
desired compression, and use Insert > Image to include that file as an 
image in the email.


Whatever size the file is on disk, it will add about 1.37 times that 
size to an email due to the encoding (assuming base64, which is usually 
used for binary attachments), plus a few hundred bytes of headers. So 
attaching a 74.8kB file will add about 103kB to the email size.


Mark.

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Search Bar Missing (was: Re: Seamonkey: failure to load)

2016-01-16 Thread WaltS48 

On 01/16/2016 06:41 PM, Ron Lesan wrote:

SM looks different on my lap top than on my office PC.
  Both run XP - - - there's no Search bar at the top on
   my lap top ?


On the lap top, right click in the Menu bar, select Customize and see if 
the Search Bar is there. If it is, drag it to the top.


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Re: SM 2.39 OS X too much memory used

2016-01-16 Thread Ant 

Do you still have this problem with a new clean SM profile?


On 1/16/2016 3:52 AM, Gabriel wrote:

Hi everybody,

SeaMonkey for OS X is using *a lot* of RAM!
It starts with about 2 GB, never uses less than 1.7 and after a few
hours it can grow up to 3+ GB. Also the "compressed memory" (with EL
Capitan) is not more than 10% even when SM is put in background.
I do have a lot of windows and tabs, but I've set up to laod them only
when accessing their websites, so I don't think that memory usage is
normal.
I have similar settings with Firefox and it's using much less RAM,
especially when it's in background.

Is it something I can do on my side to ameliorate this situation?

thank you.



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Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

2016-01-16 Thread Ant 

On 1/16/2016 7:51 AM, David E. Ross wrote:


Before retiring, I had surgery on my right hand.  When the doctor said I
could return to work -- about a week later -- my boss strongly suggested
that I use only my left hand for a while.  I am right-handed.  I changed
the settings on my work PC to use my left hand for the mouse.  That
lasted 3 minutes.  The slight discomfort while using my right hand for
the mouse was less bothersome than the mess I was making with my left
hand.


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Re: Seamonkey: failure to load

2016-01-16 Thread Ron Lesan 
SM looks different on my lap top than on my office PC.
 Both run XP - - - there's no Search bar at the top on
  my lap top ?
=

On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Jonathan N. Little 
wrote:

> Ian Murphy wrote:
>
>> On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 2:14:47 AM UTC-5, Paul B. Gallagher
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>
>>> Ian wrote on 1/15/2016 10:45 PM:

> I've been able to download, install, and run Seamonkey before so
> I'm not exactly sure what is going on this time.
>

 And, based on you post, neither are we!

 I looked through the forums and community pages and found various
> things pertaining to the two problems I had but none covered the
> two together.
>

 Well, we have no idea of either of your two problems based on this
 post.

 I'm sending a screenshot of my terminal after running ./seamonkey
>

 And, um, WHEN are you sending the screenshot?

>>>
>>> AFAIK attachments are blocked here, so he probably meant well but failed
>>> to accomplish it. Ian, you'll have to put the screenshot somewhere else
>>> and post a link here.
>>>
>>> And if you want help, you'll have to give your helpers a lot more to go
>>> on than this. I'm afraid mind-reading is not a common skill hereabouts.
>>>
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>>>
>>
>> Sorry about that guys, that probably aggravated you. You guys are
>> asses...and I love it lol  I don't when I originally sent the message to to
>> moderator, the attachment was there, when I realized I needed to subscribe
>> (I get ahead of myself at times) I signed up, then went to forward it from
>> my email client and I, with a faulty assumption, thought it was going to
>> sent the previously attached jpeg. I was profoundly wrong...Anyway..I'm
>> running Linux 4.2.0-23 Ubuntu (Wily)  I realize that very well could be the
>> issue, but I thought unlikely. It says failure something to the effect of a
>> XPCOMGlue error in libxul.so /w a failure to load libasound.so.2 but (Not
>> included in Seamonkey download) but I already had that particular library
>> installed. XPCOM could not load...but without further adieu...the screen
>> shot: https://goo.gl/photos/RY9izhWLCFMt2MZy9 ...as for comments on the
>> different ways to have sent the info (copy/paste, blah-foobar blah, etc)
>> "To each his own fucked up ways"
>>
> lol
>
>>
>>
> How id you install SeaMonkey? Didn't you use the PPA?
>
> 
>
> Your install seems non-standard and may indicated that you messed up on
> installing it. The PPA is a piece of cake, and default to install
> executable in /opt/
>
>
> jonathan@nomad:~$ dpkg -L seamonkey-mozilla-build
> /.
> /usr
> /usr/bin
> /usr/share
> /usr/share/applications
> /usr/share/applications/seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop
> /usr/share/pixmaps
> /usr/share/pixmaps/seamonkey-mozilla-build.png
> /opt
> /opt/seamonkey
> /opt/seamonkey/platform.ini
> /opt/seamonkey/crashreporter
> /opt/seamonkey/plugin-container
> /opt/seamonkey/updater.ini
> /opt/seamonkey/libfreebl3.chk
> /opt/seamonkey/application.ini
> /opt/seamonkey/liblgpllibs.so
> /opt/seamonkey/libmozsqlite3.so
> /opt/seamonkey/distribution
> /opt/seamonkey/distribution/extensions
> /opt/seamonkey/distribution/extensions/inspec...@mozilla.org.xpi
>
> /opt/seamonkey/distribution/extensions/{59c81df5-4b7a-477b-912d-4e0fdf64e5f2}.xpi
> /opt/seamonkey/Throbber-small.gif
> /opt/seamonkey/precomplete
> /opt/seamonkey/dependentlibs.list
> /opt/seamonkey/seamonkey-bin
> /opt/seamonkey/searchplugins
> /opt/seamonkey/searchplugins/google.xml
> /opt/seamonkey/searchplugins/duckduckgo.xml
> /opt/seamonkey/searchplugins/wikipedia.xml
> /opt/seamonkey/searchplugins/yahoo.xml
> /opt/seamonkey/license.txt
> /opt/seamonkey/icons
> /opt/seamonkey/icons/updater.png
> /opt/seamonkey/libxul.so
> /opt/seamonkey/isp
> /opt/seamonkey/isp/SpamAssassin.sfd
> /opt/seamonkey/isp/DSPAM.sfd
> /opt/seamonkey/isp/POPFile.sfd
> /opt/seamonkey/isp/movemail.rdf
> /opt/seamonkey/isp/SpamPal.sfd
> /opt/seamonkey/isp/Bogofilter.sfd
> /opt/seamonkey/isp/rss.rdf
> /opt/seamonkey/libsoftokn3.chk
> /opt/seamonkey/libsoftokn3.so
> /opt/seamonkey/crashreporter-override.ini
> /opt/seamonkey/update-settings.ini
> /opt/seamonkey/libplds4.so
> /opt/seamonkey/libnspr4.so
> /opt/seamonkey/libssl3.so
> /opt/seamonkey/libplc4.so
> /opt/seamonkey/libldap60.so
> /opt/seamonkey/libnssutil3.so
> /opt/seamonkey/libnss3.so
> /opt/seamonkey/run-mozilla.sh
> /opt/seamonkey/blocklist.xml
> /opt/seamonkey/removed-files
> /opt/seamonkey/crashreporter.ini
> /opt/seamonkey/libprldap60.so
> /opt/seamonkey/libfreebl3.so
> /opt/seamonkey/extensions
> /opt/seamonkey/extensions/{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi
> /opt/seamonkey/extensions/mod...@themes.mozilla.org.xpi
> /opt/seamonkey/libnssdbm3.chk
> /opt/seamonkey/defaults
>

Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

2016-01-16 Thread Ant 

On 1/15/2016 8:33 AM, Philip Chee wrote:

On 14/01/2016 21:40, Ant wrote:

ewongMc I'm currently stalled on getting 2.40 released..
I'm very sorry.








Bummer. :(


Lets all wish ewong a speedy recovery and thank him for all the
work he's done in the past to keep Seamonkey up and running... i
just love using Seamonkey...


Ditto. Wait, what happened to him? Did I miss something?


Accident happened (not life threatening). He's out of hospital but his
arm is in a splint which means typing is really hard.


DOH! That's not good. I hope it wasn't a carpal syndrome! :O
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Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

2016-01-16 Thread Ant 

Hey, Ewong, typing one handed is relatively easy . when you've got
almost forty years practice at it!! ;-P


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Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

2016-01-16 Thread David E. Ross 
On 1/16/2016 1:05 AM, Daniel wrote:
> On 16/01/2016 3:33 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
>> On 14/01/2016 21:40, Ant wrote:
>> ewongMc I'm currently stalled on getting 2.40 released..
>> I'm very sorry.
>>
>> 
>
>
>>
>> Bummer. :(

 Lets all wish ewong a speedy recovery and thank him for all the
 work he's done in the past to keep Seamonkey up and running... i
 just love using Seamonkey...
>>>
>>> Ditto. Wait, what happened to him? Did I miss something?
>>
>> Accident happened (not life threatening). He's out of hospital but his
>> arm is in a splint which means typing is really hard.
>>
>> Phil
>>
> Hey, Ewong, typing one handed is relatively easy . when you've got 
> almost forty years practice at it!! ;-P
> 

Before retiring, I had surgery on my right hand.  When the doctor said I
could return to work -- about a week later -- my boss strongly suggested
that I use only my left hand for a while.  I am right-handed.  I changed
the settings on my work PC to use my left hand for the mouse.  That
lasted 3 minutes.  The slight discomfort while using my right hand for
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Re: New tab wish

2016-01-16 Thread David E. Ross 
On 1/16/2016 10:12 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
> In Firefox there is a pref to set a URL to open when you create a new 
> tab.  I have it set to open my home page (a local file).  Sure would be 
> nice if this were implemented in SM.
> 

This is already a SeaMonkey capability.

1.  On the menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the Preferences window, select [Browser] (generally pre-selected
when the window opens).

3.  In the "Display on" selection list, select the down-pointing
triangle and select "New Tab".

4.  Under "Display on", select the "Home page" radio button.

5.  Select the OK button.

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Re: Seamonkey: failure to load

2016-01-16 Thread Ian Murphy 
On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 2:14:47 AM UTC-5, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
> 
> > Ian wrote on 1/15/2016 10:45 PM:
> >> I've been able to download, install, and run Seamonkey before so
> >> I'm not exactly sure what is going on this time.
> >
> > And, based on you post, neither are we!
> >
> >> I looked through the forums and community pages and found various
> >> things pertaining to the two problems I had but none covered the
> >> two together.
> >
> > Well, we have no idea of either of your two problems based on this
> > post.
> >
> >> I'm sending a screenshot of my terminal after running ./seamonkey
> >
> > And, um, WHEN are you sending the screenshot?
> 
> AFAIK attachments are blocked here, so he probably meant well but failed 
> to accomplish it. Ian, you'll have to put the screenshot somewhere else 
> and post a link here.
> 
> And if you want help, you'll have to give your helpers a lot more to go 
> on than this. I'm afraid mind-reading is not a common skill hereabouts.
> 
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher

Sorry about that guys, that probably aggravated you. You guys are asses...and I 
love it lol  I don't when I originally sent the message to to moderator, the 
attachment was there, when I realized I needed to subscribe (I get ahead of 
myself at times) I signed up, then went to forward it from my email client and 
I, with a faulty assumption, thought it was going to sent the previously 
attached jpeg. I was profoundly wrong...Anyway..I'm running Linux 4.2.0-23 
Ubuntu (Wily)  I realize that very well could be the issue, but I thought 
unlikely. It says failure something to the effect of a XPCOMGlue error in 
libxul.so /w a failure to load libasound.so.2 but (Not included in Seamonkey 
download) but I already had that particular library installed. XPCOM could not 
load...but without further adieu...the screen shot: 
https://goo.gl/photos/RY9izhWLCFMt2MZy9 ...as for comments on the different 
ways to have sent the info (copy/paste, blah-foobar blah, etc) "To each his own 
fucked up ways" lo
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Re: Seamonkey: failure to load

2016-01-16 Thread Jonathan N. Little 

Ian Murphy wrote:

On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 2:14:47 AM UTC-5, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


Ian wrote on 1/15/2016 10:45 PM:

I've been able to download, install, and run Seamonkey before so
I'm not exactly sure what is going on this time.


And, based on you post, neither are we!


I looked through the forums and community pages and found various
things pertaining to the two problems I had but none covered the
two together.


Well, we have no idea of either of your two problems based on this
post.


I'm sending a screenshot of my terminal after running ./seamonkey


And, um, WHEN are you sending the screenshot?


AFAIK attachments are blocked here, so he probably meant well but failed
to accomplish it. Ian, you'll have to put the screenshot somewhere else
and post a link here.

And if you want help, you'll have to give your helpers a lot more to go
on than this. I'm afraid mind-reading is not a common skill hereabouts.

--
War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
--
Paul B. Gallagher


Sorry about that guys, that probably aggravated you. You guys are asses...and I love it lol  I don't when I originally sent the message to to moderator, the attachment was there, when I realized I needed to subscribe (I get ahead of myself at times) I signed up, then went to forward it from my email client and I, with a faulty assumption, thought it was going to sent the previously attached jpeg. I was profoundly wrong...Anyway..I'm running Linux 4.2.0-23 Ubuntu (Wily)  I realize that very well could be the issue, but I thought unlikely. It says failure something to the effect of a XPCOMGlue error in libxul.so /w a failure to load libasound.so.2 but (Not included in Seamonkey download) but I already had that particular library installed. XPCOM could not load...but without further adieu...the screen shot: https://goo.gl/photos/RY9izhWLCFMt2MZy9 ...as for comments on the different ways to have sent the info (copy/paste, blah-foobar blah, etc) "To each his own fucked up ways" 

lol




How id you install SeaMonkey? Didn't you use the PPA?



Your install seems non-standard and may indicated that you messed up on 
installing it. The PPA is a piece of cake, and default to install 
executable in /opt/



jonathan@nomad:~$ dpkg -L seamonkey-mozilla-build
/.
/usr
/usr/bin
/usr/share
/usr/share/applications
/usr/share/applications/seamonkey-mozilla-build.desktop
/usr/share/pixmaps
/usr/share/pixmaps/seamonkey-mozilla-build.png
/opt
/opt/seamonkey
/opt/seamonkey/platform.ini
/opt/seamonkey/crashreporter
/opt/seamonkey/plugin-container
/opt/seamonkey/updater.ini
/opt/seamonkey/libfreebl3.chk
/opt/seamonkey/application.ini
/opt/seamonkey/liblgpllibs.so
/opt/seamonkey/libmozsqlite3.so
/opt/seamonkey/distribution
/opt/seamonkey/distribution/extensions
/opt/seamonkey/distribution/extensions/inspec...@mozilla.org.xpi
/opt/seamonkey/distribution/extensions/{59c81df5-4b7a-477b-912d-4e0fdf64e5f2}.xpi
/opt/seamonkey/Throbber-small.gif
/opt/seamonkey/precomplete
/opt/seamonkey/dependentlibs.list
/opt/seamonkey/seamonkey-bin
/opt/seamonkey/searchplugins
/opt/seamonkey/searchplugins/google.xml
/opt/seamonkey/searchplugins/duckduckgo.xml
/opt/seamonkey/searchplugins/wikipedia.xml
/opt/seamonkey/searchplugins/yahoo.xml
/opt/seamonkey/license.txt
/opt/seamonkey/icons
/opt/seamonkey/icons/updater.png
/opt/seamonkey/libxul.so
/opt/seamonkey/isp
/opt/seamonkey/isp/SpamAssassin.sfd
/opt/seamonkey/isp/DSPAM.sfd
/opt/seamonkey/isp/POPFile.sfd
/opt/seamonkey/isp/movemail.rdf
/opt/seamonkey/isp/SpamPal.sfd
/opt/seamonkey/isp/Bogofilter.sfd
/opt/seamonkey/isp/rss.rdf
/opt/seamonkey/libsoftokn3.chk
/opt/seamonkey/libsoftokn3.so
/opt/seamonkey/crashreporter-override.ini
/opt/seamonkey/update-settings.ini
/opt/seamonkey/libplds4.so
/opt/seamonkey/libnspr4.so
/opt/seamonkey/libssl3.so
/opt/seamonkey/libplc4.so
/opt/seamonkey/libldap60.so
/opt/seamonkey/libnssutil3.so
/opt/seamonkey/libnss3.so
/opt/seamonkey/run-mozilla.sh
/opt/seamonkey/blocklist.xml
/opt/seamonkey/removed-files
/opt/seamonkey/crashreporter.ini
/opt/seamonkey/libprldap60.so
/opt/seamonkey/libfreebl3.so
/opt/seamonkey/extensions
/opt/seamonkey/extensions/{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}.xpi
/opt/seamonkey/extensions/mod...@themes.mozilla.org.xpi
/opt/seamonkey/libnssdbm3.chk
/opt/seamonkey/defaults
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/messenger
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/messenger/mailViews.dat
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/profile
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/profile/panels.rdf
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/profile/mimeTypes.rdf
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/profile/chrome
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/profile/chrome/userContent-example.css
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/profile/chrome/userChrome-example.css
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/pref
/opt/seamonkey/defaults/pref/channel-prefs.js
/opt/seamonkey/chrome.manifest
/opt/seamonkey/components
/opt/seamonkey/components/components.manifest
/opt/seamonkey/components/libmozgnome.so

New tab wish

2016-01-16 Thread Ed Mullen 
In Firefox there is a pref to set a URL to open when you create a new 
tab.  I have it set to open my home page (a local file).  Sure would be 
nice if this were implemented in SM.


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Re: Seamonkey: failure to load

2016-01-16 Thread Ian Murphy 
On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 2:14:47 AM UTC-5, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
> 
> > Ian wrote on 1/15/2016 10:45 PM:
> >> I've been able to download, install, and run Seamonkey before so
> >> I'm not exactly sure what is going on this time.
> >
> > And, based on you post, neither are we!
> >
> >> I looked through the forums and community pages and found various
> >> things pertaining to the two problems I had but none covered the
> >> two together.
> >
> > Well, we have no idea of either of your two problems based on this
> > post.
> >
> >> I'm sending a screenshot of my terminal after running ./seamonkey
> >
> > And, um, WHEN are you sending the screenshot?
> 
> AFAIK attachments are blocked here, so he probably meant well but failed 
> to accomplish it. Ian, you'll have to put the screenshot somewhere else 
> and post a link here.
> 
> And if you want help, you'll have to give your helpers a lot more to go 
> on than this. I'm afraid mind-reading is not a common skill hereabouts.
> 
> -- 
> War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left.
> --
> Paul B. Gallagher



8:45 AM (3 hours ago)
- show quoted text -
Sorry about that guys, that probably aggravated you. You guys are asses...and I 
love it lol  I don't when I originally sent the message to to moderator, the 
attachment was there, when I realized I needed to subscribe (I get ahead of 
myself at times) I signed up, then went to forward it from my email client and 
I, with a faulty assumption, thought it was going to sent the previously 
attached jpeg. I was profoundly wrong...Anyway..I'm running Linux 4.2.0-23 
Ubuntu (Wily)  I realize that very well could be the issue, but I thought 
unlikely. It says failure something to the effect of a XPCOMGlue error in 
libxul.so /w a failure to load libasound.so.2 but (Not included in Seamonkey 
download) but I already had that particular library installed. XPCOM could not 
load...but without further adieu...the screen shot 
https://goo.gl/photos/RY9izhWLCFMt2MZy9 ...as for comments on the different 
ways to have sent the info (copy/paste, blah-foobar blah, etc) "To each his own 
fucked up ways" lol
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Re: Seamonkey: failure to load

2016-01-16 Thread Ian Murphy 
On Saturday, January 16, 2016 at 2:22:19 AM UTC-5, Ed Mullen wrote:
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 1/16/2016 2:14 AM:
> > Ed Mullen wrote:
> >
> >> Ian wrote on 1/15/2016 10:45 PM:
> >>> I've been able to download, install, and run Seamonkey before so
> >>> I'm not exactly sure what is going on this time.
> >>
> >> And, based on you post, neither are we!
> >>
> >>> I looked through the forums and community pages and found various
> >>> things pertaining to the two problems I had but none covered the
> >>> two together.
> >>
> >> Well, we have no idea of either of your two problems based on this
> >> post.
> >>
> >>> I'm sending a screenshot of my terminal after running ./seamonkey
> >>
> >> And, um, WHEN are you sending the screenshot?
> >
> > AFAIK attachments are blocked here, so he probably meant well but failed
> > to accomplish it. Ian, you'll have to put the screenshot somewhere else
> > and post a link here.
> >
> > And if you want help, you'll have to give your helpers a lot more to go
> > on than this. I'm afraid mind-reading is not a common skill hereabouts.
> >
> 
> If he needs to do an attachment I think mozilla.test.multimedia would work.
> 
> 
> -- 
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> http://edmullen.net/
> Deja FU: The feeling that you've screwed this up before.

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Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?

2016-01-16 Thread mozilla-lists . mbourne 

Ray_Net wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 13:27:

Mason83 wrote:

On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote:


The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in such
a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an html
mail ?


In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions?

Auto Resize Image
Auto Compress File
Auto Resize JPEG

The documentation for what you are doing is probably this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images



From that link:

Compared to using the "Insert" menu or drag & drop method, pasting
will usually involve recoding of the image, thus may change quality
and size. Thus, the other two methods are preferred to retain the
original format of an image.


That suggests that using Insert > Image *doesn't* recode the image. So
if you want to control the compression used, perhaps the easiest way
is to use an image editor (e.g. GIMP) to save a copy of the file with
the desired compression, and use Insert > Image to include that file
as an image in the email.


GIMP or IRFANVIEW  the same problem. I had created the file saving
as .jpg file with 100% quality.
This image on disk was added in the plain-text mail and opened with
Irfanview the copy/paste into the html mail.
In the both method SM creates mail-data from bits find on disk file on
disk and from pixels fnd in copy/paste.


When you copy/paste an image, SeaMonkey knows nothing about the file on 
disk and what quality it's saved with. Have you tried using Insert > 
Image? I haven't, but from the link Mason83 posted, it looks like that 
should include the file as it exists on disk. Or attach the file rather 
than including it in the body of the email.



This is SM who do a different treatment. For the plain-text, it's only
and expand and for the html mail it's a compression followed by a
expansion.


There's no difference between plain text and HTML emails - if you attach 
a file to an HTML email it should be the same as attaching it to a plain 
text email. The difference is between attaching a file and copy/pasting 
an image into the email.



Gimp or Irfanview are not involved and cannot increase the length of the
picture in the html mail.


The settings used to save the file should have an effect if you attach 
the file rather than copy and pasting the image.


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Re: Seamonkey: failure to load

2016-01-16 Thread Jonathan N. Little 

Ron Lesan wrote:

SM looks different on my lap top than on my office PC.
  Both run XP - - - there's no Search bar at the top on
   my lap top ?


"View > Show/Hide > Navigation Toolbar" check it.

Also, please just post to the newsgroup and not my email...I'll see it 
on the group.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

2016-01-16 Thread David E. Ross 
On 1/16/2016 7:02 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 1/16/2016 7:51 AM, David E. Ross wrote:
> 
>> Before retiring, I had surgery on my right hand.  When the doctor said I
>> could return to work -- about a week later -- my boss strongly suggested
>> that I use only my left hand for a while.  I am right-handed.  I changed
>> the settings on my work PC to use my left hand for the mouse.  That
>> lasted 3 minutes.  The slight discomfort while using my right hand for
>> the mouse was less bothersome than the mess I was making with my left
>> hand.
> 
> Carpal syndrome sucks. I'm also right handed. :(
> 

It was not carpal tunel sydrome.  It was trigger finger (having nothing
to do with guns).

A bump developed on the tendon that pulls my right ring finger straight
from a curled position.  The bump would catch on a ligament that crossed
over the tendon to hold it in place.   I could not straightened the
finger smoothly; instead, it would jump (the triggering effect) -- with
much pain.

The surgeon cut the ligament.  Scar tissue formed to hold the tendon in
place but more loosely than the ligament.  I can now straighten the
finger smoothly and without pain.

The surgery I had was a last resort when repeated cortisone shots failed
to give more than temporary relief.  A few years later after I retired,
I had to have the same surgery done on two other fingers.  The same
problem happened to both thumbs and even another finger; but in those
situations, the problems yielded to cortisone shots.

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Re: Amount of bytes for a picture different between attached and copy/paste ?

2016-01-16 Thread Ray_Net 

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 23:12:

Ray_Net wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote on 16/01/2016 13:27:

Mason83 wrote:

On 15/01/2016 23:29, Ray_Net wrote:

The last question could be: How can we modify a parameter in SM in 
such
a way that we can modify the compression force when inserted in an 
html

mail ?


In about:support "Extensions", do you see these extensions?

Auto Resize Image
Auto Compress File
Auto Resize JPEG

The documentation for what you are doing is probably this:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Creating_complex_mails_with_inline_images#Drag_.26_drop_images 





From that link:

Compared to using the "Insert" menu or drag & drop method, pasting
will usually involve recoding of the image, thus may change quality
and size. Thus, the other two methods are preferred to retain the
original format of an image.


That suggests that using Insert > Image *doesn't* recode the image. So
if you want to control the compression used, perhaps the easiest way
is to use an image editor (e.g. GIMP) to save a copy of the file with
the desired compression, and use Insert > Image to include that file
as an image in the email.


GIMP or IRFANVIEW  the same problem. I had created the file saving
as .jpg file with 100% quality.
This image on disk was added in the plain-text mail and opened with
Irfanview the copy/paste into the html mail.
In the both method SM creates mail-data from bits find on disk file on
disk and from pixels fnd in copy/paste.


When you copy/paste an image, SeaMonkey knows nothing about the file 
on disk and what quality it's saved with. Have you tried using Insert 
> Image? I haven't, but from the link Mason83 posted, it looks like 
that should include the file as it exists on disk. Or attach the file 
rather than including it in the body of the email.
Just what I said :-) In fact I had done this test to prove at someone 
that html mail could be smaller than plain-text mail, because in 
plain-text mail you cannot do a copy/paste, so there MUST be an 
attachment, which is bigger. This guy have declared that he hate html 
mails because html mails have more bytes that plain-text mail .. I just 
give him the opposite situation.



This is SM who do a different treatment. For the plain-text, it's only
and expand and for the html mail it's a compression followed by a
expansion.


There's no difference between plain text and HTML emails - if you 
attach a file to an HTML email it should be the same as attaching it 
to a plain text email. The difference is between attaching a file and 
copy/pasting an image into the email.

You cannot copy/paste into a plain-text mail 



Gimp or Irfanview are not involved and cannot increase the length of the
picture in the html mail.


The settings used to save the file should have an effect if you attach 
the file rather than copy and pasting the image.


The file was saved BEFORE any action  the attach was this disk file 
and the copy/paste was the pixels present on IrfanView who openend the 
file without any modifications.
As I said, GIMP or IrfanView is not involved in the length of the two 
method.

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