Re: network disconnects on switch to vtty, reconnects on return to GUI

2016-03-09 Thread Felix Miata

Felix Miata composed on 2015-07-11 14:01 (UTC-0500):


Felix Miata composed on 2015-07-02 04:17 (UTC-0400):



I've been using the suite too long to remember, back in the rv0.x days, when
bugzilla numbers were still only 5 digits. At least a decade ago I started
doing so in KDE3 on Linux in addition to using it in OS/2. About 6 years ago
I stopped using it on OS/2 except for IRC. When I first started using it on
Linux I was only using pre-releases, in order to participate in development
QA. I would still be including pre-release among running instances but for
that no such thing exists any more. Current Linux is openSUSE 13.1, which
gets updates manually at whim. Last updates were this AM. Prior were likely
about 2 weeks ago.



So, what I've been running 24/7 lately, all mozilla.org binaries rather than
rpms, are the following:



1-devel release profile: 1 browser window with gobs of tabs, 1 CZ window, 2
servers, 12 channels
2-latest release profile: 1 browser window with gobs of tabs, 1 mailnews window
3-FF latest
4-FF 3.6.28
5-FF 10ESR



When I want to use Domi, most often I open FF 17ESR, in order to prevent
interruption of activity in other browser sessions when restarts are needed
(due to unfixed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208641 ). Its
red outlining of selections stopped working in my latest release SM profile
years ago. Each Mozilla instance is run on a different virtual desktop.



I have multiple email accounts, used in large part for many mailing lists
(too many to count, most likely more than 70). The two most used are set to
auto-fetch messages at different several minute intervals. POP only.



The email profile gets restarted 6 nights a week after emptying trash and
compacting. Others get restarts ad hoc, often staying open for weeks at a time.



I often want to work in fullscreen text sessions, so I switch to the vttys,
framebuffers rather than Xorg/KDE3. This never used to be any problem.
Several months ago, February likely, maybe before, switching to any vtty
somehow disconnects SM from the internet. This may in fact have begun on
upgrading from openSUSE 11.4 to 13.1 in early January.



The SM/CZ profile delays reaction until returning from vtty to KDE by losing
and auto-reconnecting to the IRC servers. The SM/mailnews profile reacts
immediately by ceasing to auto-fetch mail, initializing an auto-fetch within
seconds of returning from vtty to KDE.



Switching to vtty from KDE does not break networking itself. I keep an IRC
session open in a different chat client that only looses connection to server
when the network is down, typically no more than once or twice a week.



I searched the term disconnect in BZ's networking components without finding
anything apparently on point. I searched 2.31, 2.32 & 2.33 relnotes without
seeing anything on point.



How can I get SM to stop playing possum when X/KDE isn't lighting up my
display, stop littering IRC panes with reconnect messages, keep mail fetching
as configured?



This apparently stopped when I upgraded to:
UA ID: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:39.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.36;


The stop was brief, or maybe intermittent. It's been doing it for more than 
the past 6 months, now at rv43.0, even after replacing openSUSE 13.1 with 
42.1.  :-(

--
"The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant
words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation)

 Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks!

Felix Miata  ***  http://fm.no-ip.com/
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey


Re: Corrupted Folder?

2016-03-09 Thread EE

Daniel wrote:

On 9/03/2016 9:16 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

I have an Archives folder under one of my mail accounts with several
sub-folders.  Recently when I tried to move a message from a news inbox
to one of the sub-folders I got an endless wait icon over the
sub-folder.  I now can't see the list of messages in the sub-folder as I
get the endless wait icon whenever I try to open the folder.  I suppose
the failed moving of that last message somehow corrupted the folder.  Is
there any way to retrieve the contents of that folder?


Cecil, if you're really desperate you should be able to open the folder
in a plain text reader (with SeaMonkey closed!!) such as Notepad or
wordpad. The file you are after is the one without the .msf suffix, e.g.
if there are a pair of files called test and test.msf, the one that
might still contain your message is the test file.

Opps!! Wait!! Just noticed that you mentioned "a news inbox"! Normally,
news articals, as I understand it, are not downloaded as such to your
computer, they are just stored in your cache, so if you are trying to
download and save a news post, you may be downloading everything from
the news server!!

If you archive messages, they are saved.  The archive folder may be 
corrupted, however, so backup the profile first and then see if that 
folder can be repaired.  If not, you may have to resort to this:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Recover_messages_from_a_corrupt_folder

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey


Re: Installing Seamonkey in Debian Jessie (stable)

2016-03-09 Thread Gordon Weast

Matthias Mueller wrote:

Hi,

i am relatively new to linux and trying to get Seamonkey to work. There is
no package in the Debian Repositories.

I have tried to unpack and start Seamonkey this way: "
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall;.
Unpacked inside my homefolder "~/seamonkey".


I get this Error Message:

user@Desktop:~/seamonkey$ ./seamonkey
XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/user/seamonkey2/seamonkey/libxul.so:
libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.


I also get errors when i am trying to compile it myself:
http://pastebin.com/8NpkP0RF



I know on Ubuntu (based on Debian) only the 64 bit execution environment 
is installed by default.  When I tried the regular 32 bit Seamonkey, it 
won't start.  I had to get the 64 bit experimental version, then it worked.


It does seem possible to install the 32 bit execution environment, but I 
finally gave up when I couldn't identify and find all the shared 
libraries that Seamonkey 32bit needs.


This could be your problem.  I don't know if Debian installs the 32 bit 
environment by default.

___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey


Re: Installing Seamonkey in Debian Jessie (stable)

2016-03-09 Thread Bret Busby
On 09/03/2016, Matthias Mueller  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> i am relatively new to linux and trying to get Seamonkey to work. There is
> no package in the Debian Repositories.
>

Have you tried
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/files/mozilla/apt/pool/main/s/seamonkey-mozilla-build/
?

-- 

Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia

..

"So once you do know what the question actually is,
 you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
 Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
 "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
 A Trilogy In Four Parts",
 written by Douglas Adams,
 published by Pan Books, 1992


___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey


Re: Installing Seamonkey in Debian Jessie (stable)

2016-03-09 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Is the X server and the package libxrender installed? You also seem to miss 
alot 
of the gtk2 packages so the configure barks. If you have gtk2 installed maybe 
only 
the dev packages with the headers and libraries are missing? Which gcc is 
installed?

On Wed, 9 Mar 2016 16:50:12 +0100, Matthias Mueller wrote:

>>Hi,
>>
>>i am relatively new to linux and trying to get Seamonkey to work. There is
>>no package in the Debian Repositories.
>>
>>I have tried to unpack and start Seamonkey this way: "
>>http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall;.
>>Unpacked inside my homefolder "~/seamonkey".
>>
>>
>>I get this Error Message:
>>
>>user@Desktop:~/seamonkey$ ./seamonkey
>>XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/user/seamonkey2/seamonkey/libxul.so:
>>libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
>>Couldn't load XPCOM.
>>
>>
>>I also get errors when i am trying to compile it myself:
>>http://pastebin.com/8NpkP0RF


 Regards
 Frank-Rainer Grahl


___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey


Installing Seamonkey in Debian Jessie (stable)

2016-03-09 Thread Matthias Mueller
Hi,

i am relatively new to linux and trying to get Seamonkey to work. There is
no package in the Debian Repositories.

I have tried to unpack and start Seamonkey this way: "
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/doc/install-and-uninstall;.
Unpacked inside my homefolder "~/seamonkey".


I get this Error Message:

user@Desktop:~/seamonkey$ ./seamonkey
XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/user/seamonkey2/seamonkey/libxul.so:
libXrender.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.


I also get errors when i am trying to compile it myself:
http://pastebin.com/8NpkP0RF
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey


Re: Corrupted Folder?

2016-03-09 Thread Cecil Bankston

Daniel wrote:

On 9/03/2016 9:16 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

I have an Archives folder under one of my mail accounts with several
sub-folders.  Recently when I tried to move a message from a news inbox
to one of the sub-folders I got an endless wait icon over the
sub-folder.  I now can't see the list of messages in the sub-folder as I
get the endless wait icon whenever I try to open the folder.  I suppose
the failed moving of that last message somehow corrupted the folder.  Is
there any way to retrieve the contents of that folder?


Cecil, if you're really desperate you should be able to open the folder
in a plain text reader (with SeaMonkey closed!!) such as Notepad or
wordpad. The file you are after is the one without the .msf suffix, e.g.
if there are a pair of files called test and test.msf, the one that
might still contain your message is the test file.

Opps!! Wait!! Just noticed that you mentioned "a news inbox"! Normally,
news articals, as I understand it, are not downloaded as such to your
computer, they are just stored in your cache, so if you are trying to
download and save a news post, you may be downloading everything from
the news server!!

Thanks for the reply. This morning the sub-folder opens normally. Even 
the news message that seemed to precipitate the problem is in there. 
Computers can do some strange things.


--
C. Bankston
___
support-seamonkey mailing list
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey