Weird mouse click results

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Since I upgraded to 2.46, I've been experiencing weird mouse behavior in 
SeaMonkey, but not in my other programs. Anyone else seeing this?


I normally have Mail/News open in three panes: the account/folder list 
on the left, the message list at top right, and the preview pane at 
bottom right. When a message is selected in the message list, it 
displays in the preview pane. I only rarely "open" messages in a 
separate window.


Weird results, different from what I'm used to:

1) If I single-click a message to select it in the list, it will often 
open in a new window. This new window often replaces the Mail/News 
window, so when I thoughtlessly close the message, the whole program 
terminates.


2) If I single-click a folder in the account/folder list, a second 
instance of Mail/News opens to that folder.


In both cases, SM is acting as if I've double-clicked, but I haven't. 
Honest.


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46

(That's Win7 Pro SP1)

Build identifier: 20161213183751

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Re: How do I stop Junk Mail (Spam) ?

[Richard Alan]

sean wrote:

> funny, I was just on the line with our ISP (freaking cox.net) about a
> flood of new spam from  (AT)onmicrosoft.com... doesn't seem to matter
> how many times I mark their whole domain as spam, I seem to be getting
> exponentially more...

A WHOIS lookup indicates that onmicrosoft.com is owned by Microsoft. Of 
course, it is entirely possible that a professional spammer is simply 
using that domain name in his spew.

What is the nature of these emails that you are classifying as spam? 
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Re: How do I stop Junk Mail (Spam) ?

[sean]

DoctorBill wrote:

I used to know this, but do not remember anymore.
I can't get the filter to work.
Using SM 2.33.1.

Suddenly getting "Pandora Outlet" adverts and unsubscribing must not be 
in the Chinese Lexicon !


DoctorBill


funny, I was just on the line with our ISP (freaking cox.net) about a 
flood of new spam from  (AT)onmicrosoft.com... doesn't seem to matter 
how many times I mark their whole domain as spam, I seem to be getting 
exponentially more...


as other have said, never unsubscribe from something you never 
subscribed to in the first place. Also don't allow images to open 
automatically in your e'mail.


This is a fresh install of Seamonkey on  my elderly laptop, so I'll be 
doing the spam filtering from zero once again.


oh, BTW, cox.net's home internet support is useless...

sean
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Re: Inflated Size Of Profile?

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Larry S. wrote:

Been getting slow response recently from SM--rotating circle for a while
until selected item comes in (mail and browser, but especially mail). I
see a couple of large items in my profile--places and webappsstore
sqlite files.


How large is "large"? My places.sqlite is 20MB, and webappsstore.sqlite 
is 96KB.


I think webappsstore is used for "Offline Storage", which I've disabled 
at Edit > Preferences > Advanced > Offline Apps and is probably why that 
one's so small for me. I guess it might be worth trying to clear offline 
storage data for websites which you don't need it (at the same 
preferences page) and then setting it to only allow specific sites.



Also, I have DOM inspector and Javascript debugger both disabled,and
never use them.

Could (should)I delete any of these files? Would doing so create any
problems for me? Other thoughts about the slow response?


I don't expect removing the DOM Inspector and Javascript Debugger 
extensions would make much difference, particularly as they're disabled. 
The Javascript Debugger which used to be included in a default 
installation of SeaMonkey isn't compatible with recent versions of 
SeaMonkey (2.29 on I believe), so you may as well remove it. DOM 
Inspector is still usually [1] included; you should be able to remove it 
if you don't use or want it, but I doubt doing so will help much with 
general responsiveness since it's already disabled.


[1] Not in 2.46 due to build issues, although it can be installed 
separately and you've probably already got it from a previous version of 
SeaMonkey.


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Re: wrapping

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Richmond wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov  writes:


Since posting that article, I found that if an email is saved as
draft, it is saved in HTML format, even if it is a plain text
message. So I guess it is converted from HTML to text as it is sent.


If it gets saved in HTML you should be really composing it in
HTML. Have never seen such behavior of composing in plain text, and
then message being saved as HTML draft, using any version of
SeaMonkey.  Does any of this change if you press and hold Shift while
pressing the "Compose" button? (this alternates the preferred
composition format)



OK, I tried shift compose and it is indeed wrapping as I type. What I
was doing before was pressing compose, and then selecting option -
format - plain text. I thought that amounted to the same thing. The
formatting toolbar disappears. But apparently it is not the same thing.


I initially assumed so too and was about to raise this as a bug. But a 
quick search first turned up bug #21128 
 where someone noted 
this behaviour of Options > Format > Plain Text back in 1999. It appears 
it is intentional - the menu just sets the format to use for sending, 
without changing the editor format.


It sounds like your default compose format (at least for the account in 
question) is HTML. If that's what you usually want, you can use 
Shift+Compose on occasions when you want to compose in plain text.


Alternatively, if you usually want to compose in plain text, you can go 
to Edit > Mail & Newsgroups Account Settings > (Select account in the 
left-hand list) > Composition & Addressing, and un-tick "Compose 
messages in HTML format. That will make plain text the default (when you 
just click "Compose"), and if you occasionally want to compose in HTML 
you can use Shift+Compose to do that (as Stanimir mentioned, it gives 
the opposite of your default).


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dom.max_script_run_time

[Richmond]

Is dom.max_script_run_time set in elapsed time or cpu time? I mean to
say if I set it to 10 seconds can I just count to 10?

Actually I have set it to 1 second in my ongoing war on javascript. I am
having SM lock up on yahoo news for example, downloading adverts I
think.
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Re: Advertisement Deluge Follow-up w/uBlock Origin

[cmcadams]

Henrik37 wrote:

On my 64 bit Optiplex 780, Win7-Pro, SM 2.40, I loaded uBlock Origin as an 'add 
on'.

One of the things I don't understand is that I am required to enable uBlock 
Origin
every time I open SeaMonkey.  If I don't specifically enable uBlock Origin, it 
seems
to remain inoperative.

I have never seen an 'add on' before that had to be constantly re-enabled.  Is 
this
normal behaviour for uBlock Origin?

Many thanks, in advance, for any enlightenment.


It wasn't working that way for me on 2.40. So something's wrong.
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Re: Trouble setting up Verizon mail

[Mr. Ed]

On 01/09/17 9:58 PM, Richard Alan wrote:
> Mr. Ed wrote:
> 
>> On 01/09/17 8:23 PM, Richard Alan wrote:
>>> Mr. Ed wrote:
>>>
 On 01/09/17 7:54 PM, jvanabb...@gmail.com wrote:
> I have found conflicting information in setup instructions to
> configure SeaMonkey for Verizon. One source says use full email
> address for username, the other just the name before the @ sign. 
> Please advise.
>
 Unless they changed things lately, you can use anything for your "user
 name".  I usually just use what's in front of  "@verizon.net",  In my
 case "Mr. Ed"
>>>
>>> No, you would use "Mr._Ed" ... you forgot the underscore.
>>
>> You're right, That's what *I'm* using, but I could use "Mr. Ed" without
>> the underline if I desired.
> 
> Not for an email ID. Spaces are not permitted in email addresses. You 
> could use it for a name, but not the address.
> 
Exactly what we are talking about.

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Re: How do I stop Junk Mail (Spam) ?

[Felix Miata]

NFN Smith composed on 2017-01-10 09:28 (UTC-0700):


There's more than one way of designating a message as Junk or Not Junk,
when viewing the folder list pane:



- Use lower case "j" to mark as junk, capital "J" to mark as not junk
- Right click on the message, go to "Mark", then select either "junk" or
"not junk"
- If your folder summary is set to show message junk status, click on
that column -- a junk message will show a flame icon.


Or use customize toolbar to include a junk button. Mine is placed between 
forward and stop, with two flexible spaces on each side of it to minimize 
likelihood of an accidental click on it.

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Re: How do I stop Junk Mail (Spam) ?

[NFN Smith]

DoctorBill wrote:

I used to know this, but do not remember anymore. I can't get the
filter to work. Using SM 2.33.1.

Suddenly getting "Pandora Outlet" adverts and unsubscribing must not
be in the Chinese Lexicon !

DoctorBill


As noted separately, it's not a good idea to unsubscribe from something 
that you didn't subscribe to. The spammer likely harvested your address 
somehow, and once they have it, there's no way of getting them to 
discard it.


For this kind of spam, it's difficult to build filters to discard -- 
spammers routinely vary both From: and Subject: lines to try to foil 
filters, and unless you have a spammer that's uncommonly stupid, you'll 
spend far more time trying to construct and maintain rules than you will 
in actually discarding the stuff.


Your better bet is using the spam filters provided in Seamonkey. Those 
are what are called "Bayesian" filters -- if you mark something as Junk, 
then every message that is similar (and that's not just From: or 
Subject: but the full collection of headers, body, and attachments) will 
also be considered to be Junk. To be really effective, a Bayesian filter 
needs to be given at least 100 samples of both spam and ham, and the 
Bayesian filters done by Mozilla don't really allow for an "unknown" 
condition.  However, after you see three or four of these, and mark as 
Junk, subsequent messages are likely to be automatically marked as Junk.


There's more than one way of designating a message as Junk or Not Junk, 
when viewing the folder list pane:


- Use lower case "j" to mark as junk, capital "J" to mark as not junk
- Right click on the message, go to "Mark", then select either "junk" or 
"not junk"
- If your folder summary is set to show message junk status, click on 
that column -- a junk message will show a flame icon.


I believe that the default handling for junk mail is that if the filter 
finds something that is evaluated as junk, or that you specifically mark 
something as junk, then the message is immediately moved to the 
account's Junk folder.  That's how I have mine set, but there's a number 
personal preferences that you can get to, by going to the account 
settings, and checking options in Junk Settings.


When you're playing with this, you need to pay attention to your Junk 
folder (to make sure that you're not getting legitimate messages thrown 
in). If you get a legit message that turns up in the Junk folder, then 
you need to make sure you mark that as Not Junk.  Doing so will move the 
message back to your inbox, as well as train the filter better 
differentiate between junk and non-junk.


Smith
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