Re: What causes uninvited changes to SeaMonkey ?

[DoctorBill]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/18/2017 8:29 AM, DoctorBill wrote:

Every once in a while, my SeaMonkey changes.
Today the mail went from "Classical View" to "Wide View" (Layout).
Several days ago, my Tabs lost the active tab white - which I had a
thread about here.

I did not change them !

Do some Web Sites do that ?
If so how can I stop this nefarious messing with my system ?

This is MOST ANNOYING !

DoctorBill



Random changes can be caused by a failing disc drive or (much less
likely) a failing memory.  Other causes can be malware or conflicting
extensions.

I suggest you try the following sequence.

1.  Run your anti-virus application to do a complete scan of your system
(memory and disc).  If malware is indeed found, delete it.

2.  Run SeaMonkey in Safe Mode for an extended period.  If the problem
does not occur, run SeaMonkey in normal mode for an extended period but
with half of your extensions disabled.
a.  If the problem does not occur, enable half of the disabled
extensions.  Repeat until the problem occurs, at which point you can
isolate which extensions contribute to the problem.  You will then have
to desable or remove at least one of the offenders.
b.  If the problem occurs in Safe Mode, it is NOT caused by any
extension conflict.

3.  Open the Properties window for your hard drive.  Select the Tools
tab.  Select the Check Now button.  Check both checkboxes.  Select the
Start button.  This will likely require you to reboot Windows.  If you
purge the events in the Windows Event Viewer, you will easily see if
there were any disc errors detected.  The Event Viewer is reached via
[Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Event Viewer]; under Windows
Logs, open each file of logs, right-click, and select Clear Log.  After
the disc is scanned, repeat going to the Event Viewer; I think the
results should appear in the Application log.

4.  Go to  and get the Memtest tool to test
your PC's memory.  This will require creating a self-loading CD or flash
stick and also require changing your boot setup.  To reach your boot
setup menu, you must press function key F2 while doing a cold or warm
boot.  Remember to record on paper what changes you make to your setup
so that you can later undo them.  Run the tool through at least one full
cycle.



Wow !  That is a thorough detective scenario !

BTW - as to your signature thing.WHY do Dems examine every tiny 
detail of

what Trump does and had let Obama go on his merry way w/o even the slightest
inquiry of his obviously questionable actions (Clinton's also) ?  Give 
us all a break !

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Re: What causes uninvited changes to SeaMonkey ?

[DoctorBill]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/19/17 at 11:48 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/18/17 at 2:00 PM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/18/17 at 11:29 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
great aplomb:

Every once in a while, my SeaMonkey changes.
Today the mail went from "Classical View" to "Wide View" (Layout).
Several days ago, my Tabs lost the active tab white - which I had a
thread about here.

I did not change them !

Do some Web Sites do that ?
If so how can I stop this nefarious messing with my system ?

This is MOST ANNOYING !

DoctorBill


Do you have more than one profile?

Do you have more than one shortcut to open SM?



Neither !

DoctorBill


Does anyone else use the computer?

I've never seen such behavior. Any add-ons that might be doing this?



99% myself.  The wife did some Ancestry.com a while back, but almost
entirely me.

The Mail sometimes goes from "Classical View" to something else and I
have to finger out
how to get back to the classical view.


View - Layout



But what bugs me is the ACTIVE Tab losing that different color or hue !
I asked about the Active Tab thing a while ago here.


Well that is weird.  The code that does that is in the userChrome.css
file in the chrome folder of your profile.  I have similar changes as
noted in the info I gave you about changing the appearance of SM.  Here
if I change the mail/news layout the tab visual changes I have are
retained.

Something is either making SM "lose" the userChrome.css file if your
changes are being lost.



The answers were too complex for me to get much out of them - as very
often
happens here.  Answers being too technical for novices.

In any case - things get changed around by some nefarious method.
I wonder if some web sites can do that and why would they ?
That's like asking WHY there are criminally minded people who like to
do harm!


Highly unlikely a site could effect those changes.

When this happens does it occur while SM is already open?  Or when you
restart it?


Jeez !  I can't answer thatnot paying THAT close attention - 
unexpected.
usually I figured that I myself did something wrong, but started to see 
it enough to know

I wasn't doing it.   Thought I'd ask here.
Windows 7 Pro. SM 2.46

Maybe those Alien Gremlins are coming out of another Dimension 'wormhole'
in my computer room and doing this just to piss me off.like in Star 
Trek Voyager.  lol


When I was running in Windows XP, this sort of stuff did not happen.
Ah...the 'Good Ol Days".

DB
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Re: transferring profile to new machine

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-07-19 8:55 PM, terry bicknell wrote:

Hello,
Can  anyone out there tell  me how to transfer  mail profile to a new 
machine using seamonkey in  each  machine?

Thanks - Terry


Here you go: http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/profilefaq/#transferring

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transferring profile to new machine

[terry bicknell]

Hello,
Can  anyone out there tell  me how to transfer  mail profile to a new 
machine using seamonkey in  each  machine?

Thanks - Terry
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Re: What causes uninvited changes to SeaMonkey ?

[David E. Ross]

On 7/18/2017 8:29 AM, DoctorBill wrote:
> Every once in a while, my SeaMonkey changes.
> Today the mail went from "Classical View" to "Wide View" (Layout).
> Several days ago, my Tabs lost the active tab white - which I had a 
> thread about here.
> 
> I did not change them !
> 
> Do some Web Sites do that ?
> If so how can I stop this nefarious messing with my system ?
> 
> This is MOST ANNOYING !
> 
> DoctorBill
> 

Random changes can be caused by a failing disc drive or (much less
likely) a failing memory.  Other causes can be malware or conflicting
extensions.

I suggest you try the following sequence.

1.  Run your anti-virus application to do a complete scan of your system
(memory and disc).  If malware is indeed found, delete it.

2.  Run SeaMonkey in Safe Mode for an extended period.  If the problem
does not occur, run SeaMonkey in normal mode for an extended period but
with half of your extensions disabled.
a.  If the problem does not occur, enable half of the disabled
extensions.  Repeat until the problem occurs, at which point you can
isolate which extensions contribute to the problem.  You will then have
to desable or remove at least one of the offenders.
b.  If the problem occurs in Safe Mode, it is NOT caused by any
extension conflict.

3.  Open the Properties window for your hard drive.  Select the Tools
tab.  Select the Check Now button.  Check both checkboxes.  Select the
Start button.  This will likely require you to reboot Windows.  If you
purge the events in the Windows Event Viewer, you will easily see if
there were any disc errors detected.  The Event Viewer is reached via
[Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Event Viewer]; under Windows
Logs, open each file of logs, right-click, and select Clear Log.  After
the disc is scanned, repeat going to the Event Viewer; I think the
results should appear in the Application log.

4.  Go to  and get the Memtest tool to test
your PC's memory.  This will require creating a self-loading CD or flash
stick and also require changing your boot setup.  To reach your boot
setup menu, you must press function key F2 while doing a cold or warm
boot.  Remember to record on paper what changes you make to your setup
so that you can later undo them.  Run the tool through at least one full
cycle.

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and his denial, there was sufficient time to destroy
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Re: What causes uninvited changes to SeaMonkey ?

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/19/17 at 11:48 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/18/17 at 2:00 PM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/18/17 at 11:29 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
great aplomb:

Every once in a while, my SeaMonkey changes.
Today the mail went from "Classical View" to "Wide View" (Layout).
Several days ago, my Tabs lost the active tab white - which I had a
thread about here.

I did not change them !

Do some Web Sites do that ?
If so how can I stop this nefarious messing with my system ?

This is MOST ANNOYING !

DoctorBill


Do you have more than one profile?

Do you have more than one shortcut to open SM?



Neither !

DoctorBill


Does anyone else use the computer?

I've never seen such behavior. Any add-ons that might be doing this?



99% myself.  The wife did some Ancestry.com a while back, but almost 
entirely me.


The Mail sometimes goes from "Classical View" to something else and I 
have to finger out

how to get back to the classical view.


View - Layout



But what bugs me is the ACTIVE Tab losing that different color or hue !
I asked about the Active Tab thing a while ago here.


Well that is weird.  The code that does that is in the userChrome.css 
file in the chrome folder of your profile.  I have similar changes as 
noted in the info I gave you about changing the appearance of SM.  Here 
if I change the mail/news layout the tab visual changes I have are 
retained.


Something is either making SM "lose" the userChrome.css file if your 
changes are being lost.




The answers were too complex for me to get much out of them - as very often
happens here.  Answers being too technical for novices.

In any case - things get changed around by some nefarious method.
I wonder if some web sites can do that and why would they ?
That's like asking WHY there are criminally minded people who like to do 
harm!


Highly unlikely a site could effect those changes.

When this happens does it occur while SM is already open?  Or when you 
restart it?



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Re: Website won't Let me logout

[Arnie Goetchius]

Ed Mullen wrote:
> On 7/19/17 at 8:03 AM, Arnie Goetchius's prodigious digits fired off with 
> great aplomb:
>> When I login in to www.pacemakerclub.com with SM 2.46, it won't accept my 
>> click on the "Logout"
>> button. It just keeps me logged in. In addition, when I click on "Private 
>> Messages", it won't let me
>> read them. Not a problem with Edge, Google Chrome or Firefox.
>>
>> I have cleared "cache" and removed any "cookies" associated with the site 
>> but nothing helps. Is
>> there anything else I can "Clear"?
>>
> 
> Try Safe Mode.
> 
That fixed it with the following steps;

1: Backup Mozilla folder
2: Enter SM in Safemode and check
   a. the box "Delete All Bookmarks except Backup"
   b. the box "Make Changes and Restart"
3. Log into pacemakerclub.com.
   Everything works okay, can login and log out and go to other tabs on website 
with no problem
4. Restore Mozilla folder
5. Log into pacemakerclub.com
   Everything works so I am all set

Thanks for tip on Safe Mode
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Re: Website won't Let me logout

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:


When I login in to www.pacemakerclub.com with SM 2.46, it won't
accept my click on the "Logout" button. It just keeps me logged in.
In addition, when I click on "Private Messages", it won't let me read
them. Not a problem with Edge, Google Chrome or Firefox.

I have cleared "cache" and removed any "cookies" associated with the
site but nothing helps. Is there anything else I can "Clear"?


Does it actually grant you access and otherwise treat you as if you were 
logged in, or does it just ignore the click?


If it's ignoring the click but denying access, then you're actually 
logged out. Ignore its treatment of the click and move on with your life.


An easy test is to try to do something you can only do if logged in. If 
you're really logged out, it should provoke a request to log in.


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Re: Website won't Let me logout

[Ray_Net]

Arnie Goetchius wrote on 19-07-17 14:03:

When I login in to www.pacemakerclub.com with SM 2.46, it won't accept my click on the 
"Logout"
button. It just keeps me logged in. In addition, when I click on "Private 
Messages", it won't let me
read them. Not a problem with Edge, Google Chrome or Firefox.

I have cleared "cache" and removed any "cookies" associated with the site but 
nothing helps. Is
there anything else I can "Clear"?

Perhaps, if you use AdBlockPlus, you can disable AdBlockPlus for this domain
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Re: What causes uninvited changes to SeaMonkey ?

[DoctorBill]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/18/17 at 2:00 PM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/18/17 at 11:29 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
great aplomb:

Every once in a while, my SeaMonkey changes.
Today the mail went from "Classical View" to "Wide View" (Layout).
Several days ago, my Tabs lost the active tab white - which I had a
thread about here.

I did not change them !

Do some Web Sites do that ?
If so how can I stop this nefarious messing with my system ?

This is MOST ANNOYING !

DoctorBill


Do you have more than one profile?

Do you have more than one shortcut to open SM?



Neither !

DoctorBill


Does anyone else use the computer?

I've never seen such behavior. Any add-ons that might be doing this?



99% myself.  The wife did some Ancestry.com a while back, but almost 
entirely me.


The Mail sometimes goes from "Classical View" to something else and I 
have to finger out

how to get back to the classical view.

But what bugs me is the ACTIVE Tab losing that different color or hue !
I asked about the Active Tab thing a while ago here.

The answers were too complex for me to get much out of them - as very often
happens here.  Answers being too technical for novices.

In any case - things get changed around by some nefarious method.
I wonder if some web sites can do that and why would they ?
That's like asking WHY there are criminally minded people who like to do 
harm!


May I suggest that the SM Menu have a toggle called "Lock In The Current 
System"

which when toggled on does not allow ANY change whatsoever to SeaMonkey !
For what it's worth - FWIW

DoctorBill
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Re: SEND MESSAGE ERROR: "Sending of the mail failed"`

[Bill Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:



Can I change the timeout preference to 210 using about:config, instead of 
adding these new lines to user.js?



Yes.  I happen to prefer adding the lines to user.js so that I can
insert a comment (a line beginning with //) to remind me why I did it.
Using about:config does not allow for commenting changes.

My suggestion in your case illustrates my use of comments.  I originally
changed the timeout preference to 210.  While it reduced the number of
instances of timeouts with a newsgroup server, it did not eliminate
them.  I was then advised to block IPv6, which completely resolved the
problem.  I was able to see my prior change in timeouts.  Not only did I
remove that from user.js, but I also had the name of the preference
variable in order to reset it via about:config.



Got it, thanks - wanted to make sure there wasn't some other drawback if I used 
about:config.

Thanks for this suggestion. I've had no problems sending emails with this 
preference set at 210, so I'm declaring victory and moving on to the next 
conundrum!


 


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Re: Website won't Let me logout

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/19/17 at 8:03 AM, Arnie Goetchius's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

When I login in to www.pacemakerclub.com with SM 2.46, it won't accept my click on the 
"Logout"
button. It just keeps me logged in. In addition, when I click on "Private 
Messages", it won't let me
read them. Not a problem with Edge, Google Chrome or Firefox.

I have cleared "cache" and removed any "cookies" associated with the site but 
nothing helps. Is
there anything else I can "Clear"?



Try Safe Mode.

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Re: SEND MESSAGE ERROR: "Sending of the mail failed"`

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/19/17 at 5:46 AM, Bill Spikowski's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/17/2017 9:53 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:
I'm suddenly getting this message regularly when trying to send 
emails from my XP computer:



Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing 
server (SMTP) mail.greenviewdata.com timed out. Try again.


Is there a way I could lengthen the 'time out' period?

The SM default time-out has always been adequate for me, going back 
to forever, but maybe not any more!


I'm having no trouble sending out emails using my gmail account in 
Seamonkey -- but then they show my gmail address as the sender, which 
I don't want since I dislike gmail and almost never use it.


I've also had intermittent problems sending messages from Seamonkey 
in recent months on my Win7 computers -- but usually I get a password 
dialog box; if I reenter my password, the message goes out. My new 
problem on XP might have the same cause, but without the ability to 
reenter my password to work around it.




The preference variable to control timeouts is mailnews.tcptimeout.  Try
adding the following to your user.js file in your profile:
user_pref("mailnews.tcptimeout", 210);
// set connection timeout to 3.5 minutes because of slow
// response
The "210" is the number of seconds (thus 3.5 minutes) to allow before a
timeout.  You should adjust this as necessary.  The semi-colon (;) at
the end of the first line is necessary.  The second and third lines are
merely a comment to remind you why you did this.



Can I change the timeout preference to 210 using about:config, instead 
of adding these new lines to user.js?




Yes.

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Re: What causes uninvited changes to SeaMonkey ?

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/18/17 at 2:00 PM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/18/17 at 11:29 AM, DoctorBill's prodigious digits fired off with
great aplomb:

Every once in a while, my SeaMonkey changes.
Today the mail went from "Classical View" to "Wide View" (Layout).
Several days ago, my Tabs lost the active tab white - which I had a
thread about here.

I did not change them !

Do some Web Sites do that ?
If so how can I stop this nefarious messing with my system ?

This is MOST ANNOYING !

DoctorBill


Do you have more than one profile?

Do you have more than one shortcut to open SM?



Neither !

DoctorBill


Does anyone else use the computer?

I've never seen such behavior. Any add-ons that might be doing this?

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Re: SEND MESSAGE ERROR: "Sending of the mail failed"`

[David E. Ross]

On 7/19/2017 2:46 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/17/2017 9:53 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:
>>> I'm suddenly getting this message regularly when trying to send emails from 
>>> my XP computer:
>>>
 Sending of the message failed.
 The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing server 
 (SMTP) mail.greenviewdata.com timed out. Try again.
>>>
>>> Is there a way I could lengthen the 'time out' period?
>>>
>>> The SM default time-out has always been adequate for me, going back to 
>>> forever, but maybe not any more!
>>>
>>> I'm having no trouble sending out emails using my gmail account in 
>>> Seamonkey -- but then they show my gmail address as the sender, which I 
>>> don't want since I dislike gmail and almost never use it.
>>>
>>> I've also had intermittent problems sending messages from Seamonkey in 
>>> recent months on my Win7 computers -- but usually I get a password dialog 
>>> box; if I reenter my password, the message goes out. My new problem on XP 
>>> might have the same cause, but without the ability to reenter my password 
>>> to work around it.
>>>
>>
>> The preference variable to control timeouts is mailnews.tcptimeout.  Try
>> adding the following to your user.js file in your profile:
>>  user_pref("mailnews.tcptimeout", 210);
>>  // set connection timeout to 3.5 minutes because of slow
>>  // response
>> The "210" is the number of seconds (thus 3.5 minutes) to allow before a
>> timeout.  You should adjust this as necessary.  The semi-colon (;) at
>> the end of the first line is necessary.  The second and third lines are
>> merely a comment to remind you why you did this.
> 
> 
> Can I change the timeout preference to 210 using about:config, instead of 
> adding these new lines to user.js?
> 

Yes.  I happen to prefer adding the lines to user.js so that I can
insert a comment (a line beginning with //) to remind me why I did it.
Using about:config does not allow for commenting changes.

My suggestion in your case illustrates my use of comments.  I originally
changed the timeout preference to 210.  While it reduced the number of
instances of timeouts with a newsgroup server, it did not eliminate
them.  I was then advised to block IPv6, which completely resolved the
problem.  I was able to see my prior change in timeouts.  Not only did I
remove that from user.js, but I also had the name of the preference
variable in order to reset it via about:config.

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Website won't Let me logout

[Arnie Goetchius]

When I login in to www.pacemakerclub.com with SM 2.46, it won't accept my click 
on the "Logout"
button. It just keeps me logged in. In addition, when I click on "Private 
Messages", it won't let me
read them. Not a problem with Edge, Google Chrome or Firefox.

I have cleared "cache" and removed any "cookies" associated with the site but 
nothing helps. Is
there anything else I can "Clear"?
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Re: SEND MESSAGE ERROR: "Sending of the mail failed"`

[Bill Spikowski]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/17/2017 9:53 AM, Bill Spikowski wrote:

I'm suddenly getting this message regularly when trying to send emails from my 
XP computer:


Sending of the message failed.
The message could not be sent because the connection to Outgoing server (SMTP) 
mail.greenviewdata.com timed out. Try again.


Is there a way I could lengthen the 'time out' period?

The SM default time-out has always been adequate for me, going back to forever, 
but maybe not any more!

I'm having no trouble sending out emails using my gmail account in Seamonkey -- 
but then they show my gmail address as the sender, which I don't want since I 
dislike gmail and almost never use it.

I've also had intermittent problems sending messages from Seamonkey in recent 
months on my Win7 computers -- but usually I get a password dialog box; if I 
reenter my password, the message goes out. My new problem on XP might have the 
same cause, but without the ability to reenter my password to work around it.



The preference variable to control timeouts is mailnews.tcptimeout.  Try
adding the following to your user.js file in your profile:
user_pref("mailnews.tcptimeout", 210);
// set connection timeout to 3.5 minutes because of slow
// response
The "210" is the number of seconds (thus 3.5 minutes) to allow before a
timeout.  You should adjust this as necessary.  The semi-colon (;) at
the end of the first line is necessary.  The second and third lines are
merely a comment to remind you why you did this.



Can I change the timeout preference to 210 using about:config, instead of 
adding these new lines to user.js?

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