Re: Spectre exploit

[Mason83]

On 12/01/2018 22:38, Mark wrote:

> Don't the OS kernel / BIOS / CPU updates just mitigate against Meltdown, 
> preventing applications (executing in ring3) from inferring content of 
> kernel memory (in ring0)?

AFAIU, the kernel work-around for Meltdown is /not/ mapping the
kernel inside an application's virtual memory space.

BIOS and CPU updates are the same. Intel makes a microcode update,
and BIOS vendors integrate that to patch the CPU at boot.

Is there a microcode update for Meltdown? I thought they were only
mitigating Spectre.

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Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing

[Ed Mullen]

On 1/14/2018 at 1:39 PM, Jonathan N. Little created this epitome of 
digital genius:

Lil Sparrow wrote:
Thanks to Ed and Jonathan I now have my layout back again but I don't 
have any of my mail folders or mails.


I originally installed the lastest version of Seamonkey and as warned 
no mails were brought over from the back up. I'm used to that but can 
usually go through the process of re-downloading a sizable number. 
This time none of my folders of important mails have come across 
either. This is an absolute disaster for me.



Firstly you have never said if this was POP3 or IMAP mail. This is very 
significant because it determines *where* the email is actually stored.


If is was POP3 then the actually messages would be located on your hard 
drive in subdirectories under Mail within your profile directory:


Enter "about:support" in the browser url bar

Under "Application Basics" find "Profile Folder" and click "Open Folder" 
button.


There should be a "Mail" subdirectory. If you are restoring your backup 
to the correct location all your POP3 accounts would be there with names 
like mail.example.com or pop.example.com




I uninstalled the newest version but installing an older version still 
hasn't brought back my older mails or my folders. Would trying to 
re-install the back up work or have the folders gone forever?




Where the program installs is not where your profile data is located. 
Possibly when your installed new version you create a new profile. 
Moving to the parent direction might confirm this if you see more than 
one subdirectory


random1.default
random2.default

More info required.



As Jonathan asked, POP3 or IMAP?

Try launching SeaMonkey's Profile Manager to see if you may have created 
a new profile when installing SM.


You should have a SeaMonkey folder in your Start - All Programs menu. 
In it should be a Profile Manager shortcut.  If not, the correct startup is:


[drive]:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe" -profileManager

where [drive] is wherever you installed SM.

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Re: Another problem: Mail folders missing

[Jonathan N. Little]

Lil Sparrow wrote:
Thanks to Ed and Jonathan I now have my layout back again but I don't 
have any of my mail folders or mails.


I originally installed the lastest version of Seamonkey and as warned no 
mails were brought over from the back up. I'm used to that but can 
usually go through the process of re-downloading a sizable number. This 
time none of my folders of important mails have come across either. This 
is an absolute disaster for me.



Firstly you have never said if this was POP3 or IMAP mail. This is very 
significant because it determines *where* the email is actually stored.


If is was POP3 then the actually messages would be located on your hard 
drive in subdirectories under Mail within your profile directory:


Enter "about:support" in the browser url bar

Under "Application Basics" find "Profile Folder" and click "Open Folder" 
button.


There should be a "Mail" subdirectory. If you are restoring your backup 
to the correct location all your POP3 accounts would be there with names 
like mail.example.com or pop.example.com




I uninstalled the newest version but installing an older version still 
hasn't brought back my older mails or my folders. Would trying to 
re-install the back up work or have the folders gone forever?




Where the program installs is not where your profile data is located. 
Possibly when your installed new version you create a new profile. 
Moving to the parent direction might confirm this if you see more than 
one subdirectory


random1.default
random2.default

More info required.

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Another problem: Mail folders missing

[Lil Sparrow]

Thanks to Ed and Jonathan I now have my layout back again but I don't 
have any of my mail folders or mails.


I originally installed the lastest version of Seamonkey and as warned 
no mails were brought over from the back up. I'm used to that but can 
usually go through the process of re-downloading a sizable number. 
This time none of my folders of important mails have come across 
either. This is an absolute disaster for me.


I uninstalled the newest version but installing an older version still 
hasn't brought back my older mails or my folders. Would trying to 
re-install the back up work or have the folders gone forever?


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Re: Disappearing email accounts

[Fire Bird]

Thank you. Ed and Jonathan

On 13 January 2018 at 17:13, Fire Bird  wrote:
> I use SeaMonkey as my email client. I checked my mail first thing, as
> usual, and all was well. However when I went back later, the layout
> had changed, only one account was listed. All the others had
> disappeared. I tried closing Seamonkey and reopening it. I uninstalled
> it. Installed an older version. All to no avail. I've uninstalled it
> again and haven't re-installed. I have no idea what happened or why or
> how.
>
> I don't want to have to use webview nor do I particularly want to use
> my failing laptop. SeaMonkey and Thunderbird are apparently
> incompatible so I can install my SeaMonkey back-up there.
>
> Could someone please tell me how to get the three panel layout back.
>
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Re: Seamonkey Browser

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Mozing wrote:

I use Seamonkey for newsgroups.
In a post there is a link I click on and the default browser (Firefox) 
does NOT open, but the Seamonkey browser opens.


I do not like the Seamonkey browser at all !  I find it harder to use 
and difficult to see.


If you're having difficulty with the display settings, SeaMonkey offers 
a lot of configuration options. One of my personal favorites, just for 
an example, is to set a minimum font size:

Edit | Preferences | Appearance | Fonts

But there's lots more -- just ask.

The same goes for "harder to use" -- what does that mean? We probably 
have answers if you'll be specific.


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Re: Seamonkey Browser

[Ed Mullen]

On 1/14/2018 at 10:41 AM, Mozing created this epitome of digital genius:

I use Seamonkey for newsgroups.
In a post there is a link I click on and the default browser (Firefox) 
does NOT open, but the Seamonkey browser opens.


I do not like the Seamonkey browser at all !  I find it harder to use 
and difficult to see.


How do I fix this !

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You might try this:



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Re: Seamonkey Browser

[David H. Durgee]

Mozing wrote:

I use Seamonkey for newsgroups.
In a post there is a link I click on and the default browser (Firefox) 
does NOT open, but the Seamonkey browser opens.


I do not like the Seamonkey browser at all !  I find it harder to use 
and difficult to see.


How do I fix this !


Use Thunderbird for newgroups instead of Seamonkey.

Dave

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Seamonkey Browser

[Mozing]

I use Seamonkey for newsgroups.
In a post there is a link I click on and the default browser (Firefox) 
does NOT open, but the Seamonkey browser opens.


I do not like the Seamonkey browser at all !  I find it harder to use 
and difficult to see.


How do I fix this !

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Re: Drop Down list

[David H. Durgee]

Daniel wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line 
at the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. 
Theme and distribution dependent.


Tracked in
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208

If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox 
ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and 
then start building.


FRG

Daniel wrote:
Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE 
desktop environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my 
Win7 SM 2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had 
this problem before.


Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE 
desktop or in Mageia Linux.


TIA.

Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL line 
on the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a 
"ribbon'y" thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking the 
URL and then a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I click on 
it, gives me the "drop-down" list of web addresses.


It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the "drop-down" 
list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.


  ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in 
one of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & 
News screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" arrowheads 
or "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag the scroll 
bar to where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.


So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on 
the M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.


Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.




No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk 
theme. You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes 
"steppers" or you can use an override file to add them like I did.  
Create a file in your home directory as follows:


~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css

containing the following:

*{
-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
-GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
-GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
}

The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.

Dave


When I booted the Laptop today (about 10 mins ago), I went looking for 
the mount point you mentioned, David. Even tried as SU, looking under my 
SM installation and in the root directory, but no go!!


Do I need to create the mount point (as SU??), if so where, or was I 
looking in all the wrong places??




You should already have the .config directory at a minimum under your 
HOME directory.  That is what the ~/ refers to.  If working from the 
linux terminal window you will normally be there when the window is 
freshly opened and if you have the typical prompt will see " ~ $ " at 
the end of the input line indicating you are in your home directory.  If 
your prompt does not show a ~ before the $ you can get there by entering 
cd with no argument.  The .config directory is typically hidden, but you 
can still enter it with the cd command.  From anywhere you should get 
there with "cd ~/.config" as a command.


I am using linux mint 18.3 x64 cinnamon here and the gtk-3.0 
sub-directory already existed for me with a file bookmarks in it used by 
the cinnamon desktop.  I had to create the gtk.css file in that 
directory with the content I showed.


If for whatever environment you are running there is no gtk-3.0 
sub-directory you should be able to create it and then create the 
gtk.css file in it.  You might need to restart SeaMonkey to get the 
steppers to display after creating the override file.


I hope this helps.

Dave


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Re: Drop Down list

[Daniel]

David H. Durgee wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Do you miss the list or the button? There should be a thicker line 
at the right which will show the list when clicked. gtk3 problem. 
Theme and distribution dependent.


Tracked in
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1331208

If it is this one will be fixed in 2.49.2 We just wait for Firefox 
ESR52 52.6 now to make sure we get the latest security fixes and 
then start building.


FRG

Daniel wrote:
Since installing SM 2.49.1 on my MageiaLinux ver 6 with KDE desktop 
environment I'm missing the drop-down URL bar list. In my Win7 SM 
2.49.1, I'm sure I do have it. I cannot say I've ever had this 
problem before.


Is this some setting that I have to set in SM or in the KDE desktop 
or in Mageia Linux.


TIA.

Frank-Rainer, I'm back on Win7 SM 2.49.1 a.t.t. and in the URL line 
on the browser screen, at the very right hand side, I see a 
"ribbon'y" thing which offers me the possibility of bookmarking the 
URL and then a down-ward pointing arrowhead which, when I click on 
it, gives me the "drop-down" list of web addresses.


It is this second function, the arrowhead to display the "drop-down" 
list, that I'm missing on my Linux SM 2.49.1.


  ... and it just occurred to me, as I scrolled through the posts in 
one of my UseNet news groups on Win7, in my Linux SM, on the Mail & 
News screen, I have the scroll-bars, but there are no "up" arrowheads 
or "down" arrowheads at either end, so I *have* to drag the scroll bar 
to where I want it. Not an easy task in some groups.


So, in the Browser URL bar, I'm missing the "down" arrowhead and, on 
the M & N screen, I'm missing the "up" and "down" arrowheads.


Could it be that the font I'm using on Linux doesn't have arrowhead 
symbols/characters?? Must check what font I'm using.




No, your problem with missing arrowheads has to do with your gtk theme. 
You can try other themes to see if you have one that includes "steppers" 
or you can use an override file to add them like I did.  Create a file 
in your home directory as follows:


~/.config/gtk-3.0/gtk.css

containing the following:

*{
-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;
-GtkRange-slider-width: 13;
-GtkRange-stepper-size: 13;
}

The above will add steppers to your scroll bars as you and I prefer.

Dave


When I booted the Laptop today (about 10 mins ago), I went looking for 
the mount point you mentioned, David. Even tried as SU, looking under my 
SM installation and in the root directory, but no go!!


Do I need to create the mount point (as SU??), if so where, or was I 
looking in all the wrong places??


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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