Re: Where are the signs of signed messages stored?

2018-05-29 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey

Tue, 29 May 2018 14:37:20 +0200, _Dirk Munk_:

I have set up my email for being able to send and receive encrypted 
email messages.


(Mail & newsgroup account settings > Security)

All my messages are signed now, and in order to be able to send an 
encrypted message, the recipient has to send me one unencrypted signed 
message first. That sign will be stored on my PC, but where is it 
stored, and can I see how many on those signs have been stored so far?


The "signs" you're talking about are called Certificates.  You should be 
able to find them through the same account settings section (Security):


  [Manage Certificates...]

or via the global Preferences:

  Privacy & Security / Certificates: [Manage Certificates...]

Look under the "People" tab of the Certificate Manager window.

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Re: Sophos reports an ROP problem, and shuts Seamonkey down.

2018-05-29 Thread Lee
On 5/29/18, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> Seems to be a "feature" of Sophos to report possible ROP problems in any
> software. Use latest compatible Noscript and uBlock and just add an
> exception in Sophos.

If one wanted to check and see if maybe the possible ROP problem
really was the result of executing a piece of malicious code from a
web site, how would you go about it?

I tried this:
C:\Temp>type startSM-with-logging.bat
@REM see  
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Debugging/HTTP_logging
@REM

@rem set 
MOZ_LOG=timestamp,sync,rotate:200,nsHttp:5,cache2:5,nsSocketTransport:5,nsHostResolver:5

set MOZ_LOG=timestamp,sync,rotate:200,nsHttp:3
@rem nsHttp:3   log only http request and response headers

set MOZ_LOG_FILE=%TEMP%\sm-log.txt

"c:\Program Files (x86)\SeaMonkey\SeaMonkey.exe"


which is 1) more verbose than I'd like and 2) not so easy to parse.
Is there some other way to keep track of what all SeaMonkey gets off the web?

Thanks
Lee


> Dirk Munk wrote:
>> Dirk Munk wrote:
>>> I have Sophos anti-virus (etc.) running on my PC, and a few days ago it
>>> reported a ROP problem with Seamonkey and closed it down.
>>>
>>> After restarting Seamonkey everything was fine again.
>>>
>>> Sophos gave this trace of the problem:
>>>
>>> Mitigation   ROP
>>>
>>> Platform 10.0.17134/x64 v614 06_3a
>>> PID  18136
>>> Application  C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe
>>> Description  SeaMonkey 2.49.3
>>>
>>> Callee Type  LoadLibrary
>>>
>>> Stack Trace
>>> #  Address  Module   Location
>>> --  
>>> 
>>> 1  7FFD8A0FBC4D KernelBase.dll
>>> 2  7FFD8D6927D7 ntdll.dll
>>> 3  7FFD8D67AC26 ntdll.dll__C_specific_handler +0x96
>>> 4  7FFD8D68EDCD ntdll.dll__chkstk +0x11d
>>> 5  7FFD8D5F6C86 ntdll.dll
>>> 6  7FFD8D68DCFE ntdll.dll KiUserExceptionDispatcher +0x2e
>>>
>>> 7  7FFD3CFAF0FD xul.dll
>>> 80791000 CMP  BYTE
>>> [RCX+0x10], 0x0
>>> 7465 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
>>> 83b91c2b00   CMP  DWORD
>>> [RCX+0x2b1c], 0x0
>>> 7416 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf122
>>> 498bc0   MOV  RAX, R8
>>> 482500f0 AND  RAX,
>>> 0xf000
>>> 488b4008 MOV  RAX, [RAX+0x8]
>>> 83b8700800   CMP  DWORD
>>> [RAX+0x870],
>>> 0x0
>>> 7446 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
>>> 4d85c0   TEST R8, R8
>>> 740c JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf133
>>> 4881cae8ff0f00   OR   RDX, 0xfffe8
>>> 833a01   CMP  DWORD [RDX],
>>> 0x1
>>> 7435 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
>>> 498bc0   MOV  RAX, R8
>>> 4981e0a0c0   AND  R8,
>>> 0xc0a0
>>>
>>> 8  7FFD3A505F69 xul.dll
>>> 9  7FFD3A50611B xul.dll
>>> 10 7FFD3CFF9A07 xul.dll
>>>
>>> Process Trace
>>> 1  C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe [18136]
>>> 2  C:\Windows\explorer.exe [11128]
>>> 3  C:\Windows\System32\userinit.exe [10980]
>>> 4  C:\Windows\System32\winlogon.exe [812]
>>> winlogon.exe
>>>
>>> Thumbprint
>>> 6b7c6ddb5008f8cfec2b72d6c65841972bb2c3f0f227ed14ea6b1187aec1429d
>>>
>>>
>> This is a security problem. According to Sophos, Seamonkey is doing
>> something
>> it should not be doing, perhaps executing a piece of malicious code from a
>> web
>> site?
>>
>> I've seen the problem more often now, and I wonder if someone can have a
>> look
>> at it?
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Re: Sophos reports an ROP problem, and shuts Seamonkey down.

2018-05-29 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl
Seems to be a "feature" of Sophos to report possible ROP problems in any 
software. Use latest compatible Noscript and uBlock and just add an exception 
in Sophos. If this isn't possible ditch Sophos.


FRG

Dirk Munk wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:
I have Sophos anti-virus (etc.) running on my PC, and a few days ago it 
reported a ROP problem with Seamonkey and closed it down.


After restarting Seamonkey everything was fine again.

Sophos gave this trace of the problem:

Mitigation   ROP

Platform 10.0.17134/x64 v614 06_3a
PID  18136
Application  C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe
Description  SeaMonkey 2.49.3

Callee Type  LoadLibrary

Stack Trace
#  Address  Module   Location
--   


1  7FFD8A0FBC4D KernelBase.dll
2  7FFD8D6927D7 ntdll.dll
3  7FFD8D67AC26 ntdll.dll    __C_specific_handler +0x96
4  7FFD8D68EDCD ntdll.dll    __chkstk +0x11d
5  7FFD8D5F6C86 ntdll.dll
6  7FFD8D68DCFE ntdll.dll KiUserExceptionDispatcher +0x2e

7  7FFD3CFAF0FD xul.dll
    80791000 CMP  BYTE [RCX+0x10], 0x0
    7465 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
    83b91c2b00   CMP  DWORD 
[RCX+0x2b1c], 0x0

    7416 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf122
    498bc0   MOV  RAX, R8
    482500f0 AND  RAX, 
0xf000

    488b4008 MOV  RAX, [RAX+0x8]
    83b8700800   CMP  DWORD [RAX+0x870], 
0x0

    7446 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
    4d85c0   TEST R8, R8
    740c JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf133
    4881cae8ff0f00   OR   RDX, 0xfffe8
    833a01   CMP  DWORD [RDX], 0x1
    7435 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
    498bc0   MOV  RAX, R8
    4981e0a0c0   AND  R8, 
0xc0a0


8  7FFD3A505F69 xul.dll
9  7FFD3A50611B xul.dll
10 7FFD3CFF9A07 xul.dll

Process Trace
1  C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe [18136]
2  C:\Windows\explorer.exe [11128]
3  C:\Windows\System32\userinit.exe [10980]
4  C:\Windows\System32\winlogon.exe [812]
winlogon.exe

Thumbprint
6b7c6ddb5008f8cfec2b72d6c65841972bb2c3f0f227ed14ea6b1187aec1429d


This is a security problem. According to Sophos, Seamonkey is doing something 
it should not be doing, perhaps executing a piece of malicious code from a web 
site?


I've seen the problem more often now, and I wonder if someone can have a look 
at it?

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Re: Sophos reports an ROP problem, and shuts Seamonkey down.

2018-05-29 Thread Roger Fink

On 5/29/2018 8:02 AM, Dirk Munk wrote:

Dirk Munk wrote:

I have Sophos anti-virus (etc.) running on my PC, and a few days ago
it reported a ROP problem with Seamonkey and closed it down.

After restarting Seamonkey everything was fine again.

Sophos gave this trace of the problem:

Mitigation   ROP

Platform     10.0.17134/x64 v614 06_3a
PIDÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  18136
Application  C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe
Description  SeaMonkey 2.49.3

Callee Type  LoadLibrary

Stack Trace
#  Address        Â
Module                   Location
--  

1Â  7FFD8A0FBC4D KernelBase.dll
2Â  7FFD8D6927D7 ntdll.dll
3  7FFD8D67AC26 ntdll.dll              Â
__C_specific_handler +0x96
4  7FFD8D68EDCD ntdll.dll                __chkstk
+0x11d
5Â  7FFD8D5F6C86 ntdll.dll
6Â  7FFD8D68DCFE ntdll.dll KiUserExceptionDispatcher +0x2e

7Â  7FFD3CFAF0FD xul.dll
                  Â
80791000Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  CMPÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  BYTE
[RCX+0x10], 0x0
                  Â
7465Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
                  Â
83b91c2b00Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  CMPÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  DWORD
[RCX+0x2b1c], 0x0
                  Â
7416Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf122
                  Â
498bc0Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  MOVÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  RAX, R8
                  Â
482500f0Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  ANDÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  RAX,
0xf000
                  Â
488b4008Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  MOVÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  RAX,
[RAX+0x8]
                  Â
83b8700800Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  CMPÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  DWORD
[RAX+0x870], 0x0
                  Â
7446Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
                  Â
4d85c0Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  TESTÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  R8, R8
                  Â
740c                     JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf133
                  Â
4881cae8ff0f00Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  ORÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  RDX, 0xfffe8
                  Â
833a01Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  CMPÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  DWORD
[RDX], 0x1
                  Â
7435Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
                  Â
498bc0Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  MOVÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  RAX, R8
                  Â
4981e0a0c0Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  ANDÂ Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  R8,
0xc0a0

8Â  7FFD3A505F69 xul.dll
9Â  7FFD3A50611B xul.dll
10 7FFD3CFF9A07 xul.dll

Process Trace
1Â  C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe [18136]
2Â  C:\Windows\explorer.exe [11128]
3Â  C:\Windows\System32\userinit.exe [10980]
4Â  C:\Windows\System32\winlogon.exe [812]
winlogon.exe

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6b7c6ddb5008f8cfec2b72d6c65841972bb2c3f0f227ed14ea6b1187aec1429d



This is a security problem. According to Sophos, Seamonkey is doing
something it should not be doing, perhaps executing a piece of malicious
code from a web site?

I've seen the problem more often now, and I wonder if someone can have a
look at it?


To escape Avast's nagging and frivolous complexity (why is a typical 
user designing  his own scan parameters?) I switched to Kaspersky. 
Kaspersky solved these problems but had the unfortunate side effect of 
blocking SeaMonkey in well over half of my attempts to access websites.


Without commenting on the legitimacy of the security concerns raised by 
Kaspersky ands Sophos, since I really don't know, I can say that this 
problem does not occur with Bit Defender, which knows how to stay out of 
your life while doing its job and is a pleasure to use. Its one quirk 
with Windows machines is that System Restore only works in safe mode - 
which for me is no biggie.



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Where are the signs of signed messages stored?

2018-05-29 Thread Dirk Munk
I have set up my email for being able to send and receive encrypted 
email messages.


(Mail & newsgroup account settings > Security)

All my messages are signed now, and in order to be able to send an 
encrypted message, the recipient has to send me one unencrypted signed 
message first. That sign will be stored on my PC, but where is it 
stored, and can I see how many on those signs have been stored so far?

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Re: Sophos reports an ROP problem, and shuts Seamonkey down.

2018-05-29 Thread Dirk Munk

Dirk Munk wrote:
I have Sophos anti-virus (etc.) running on my PC, and a few days ago 
it reported a ROP problem with Seamonkey and closed it down.


After restarting Seamonkey everything was fine again.

Sophos gave this trace of the problem:

Mitigation   ROP

Platform 10.0.17134/x64 v614 06_3a
PID  18136
Application  C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe
Description  SeaMonkey 2.49.3

Callee Type  LoadLibrary

Stack Trace
#  Address  Module   Location
--   


1  7FFD8A0FBC4D KernelBase.dll
2  7FFD8D6927D7 ntdll.dll
3  7FFD8D67AC26 ntdll.dll    __C_specific_handler +0x96
4  7FFD8D68EDCD ntdll.dll    __chkstk +0x11d
5  7FFD8D5F6C86 ntdll.dll
6  7FFD8D68DCFE ntdll.dll KiUserExceptionDispatcher +0x2e

7  7FFD3CFAF0FD xul.dll
    80791000 CMP  BYTE 
[RCX+0x10], 0x0

    7465 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
    83b91c2b00   CMP  DWORD 
[RCX+0x2b1c], 0x0

    7416 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf122
    498bc0   MOV  RAX, R8
    482500f0 AND  RAX, 
0xf000

    488b4008 MOV  RAX, [RAX+0x8]
    83b8700800   CMP  DWORD 
[RAX+0x870], 0x0

    7446 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
    4d85c0   TEST R8, R8
    740c JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf133
    4881cae8ff0f00   OR   RDX, 0xfffe8
    833a01   CMP  DWORD [RDX], 
0x1

    7435 JZ 0x7ffd3cfaf168
    498bc0   MOV  RAX, R8
    4981e0a0c0   AND  R8, 
0xc0a0


8  7FFD3A505F69 xul.dll
9  7FFD3A50611B xul.dll
10 7FFD3CFF9A07 xul.dll

Process Trace
1  C:\Program Files\SeaMonkey\seamonkey.exe [18136]
2  C:\Windows\explorer.exe [11128]
3  C:\Windows\System32\userinit.exe [10980]
4  C:\Windows\System32\winlogon.exe [812]
winlogon.exe

Thumbprint
6b7c6ddb5008f8cfec2b72d6c65841972bb2c3f0f227ed14ea6b1187aec1429d


This is a security problem. According to Sophos, Seamonkey is doing 
something it should not be doing, perhaps executing a piece of malicious 
code from a web site?


I've seen the problem more often now, and I wonder if someone can have a 
look at it?

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