Re: Helper Applications

[Roger Fink]

On 5/3/2018 4:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

Is there a way to edit SeaMonkey's list of Helper Applications?  I want
to add an entry for a file extension and delete another entry.



Set up a new profile and re-create all the helper apps exactly the way 
you want them. Then overinstall mimeTypes.rdf into your regular profile. 
After that you can delete the new profile, thus destroying all the 
evidence. I looked at the mimeTypes file and could find no specific 
reference to SeaMonkey, so maybe it will work in FF as well if you have 
both installed. Lotta work for two helper apps, but whatever...


All the usual caveats about first backing up what you are about to 
change apply.


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Strange behavior

[DoctorBill]

I like to get on FoxNews a lot and make Conservative comments.
It's more fun that a barrel of monkeys, as they say !

When I want to change something, or - when I start up writing
and that darned "You have to Sign In to Comment" thing takes
over - I lose everything I wrote.
So now I highlight and Copy (Ctrl-C) what I wrote before I lose
it.
Well - after I finish the Sign-In, I try to Ctrl-V my saved stuff
back onto the post area and it doesn't work !
BUT - if I go up to EDIT and PASTE in the Menu - it pastes !

What is the difference between Ctrl-V and PASTE "in the Menu"
concerning what I saved to the clipboard  ?

Seems odd.

DoctorBill
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unable to see text being entered....

[sean nathan]

thsi is a recurring problem that has recently reappeared, whenever I try 
to enter e'mail addresses or passwords in fields... the txt block 
remains white or black (depending upon which theme I am using) the only 
way to see if what I am typing is correct is to highlight said text.


This occurred in a new place yesterday while trying to respond to a 
message thread in G+...


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[ANN] QuoteCollapse 1.0+ backward-incompatibility (longish)

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

For those of you using the QuoteCollapse [1] extension, I'm the author 
of the changes included in version 1.0 (one may peek at [2] for some 
more details), and I want to stress out a detail which doesn't appear as 
obvious as it could be.


Now, if you just use the extension out-of-the-box with no user 
customizations you should not notice any change.  All users which have 
previously applied customizations need to see the following:


v1.0 :

  * [Backward-compatibility] Default styles now use max-height instead 
of height. Existing customizations need to be adjusted – see Customising 
on the website for details;


The "Customising" [3] page further includes:

Note, up to QuoteCollapse v0.9 the default styles used CSS |height| 
property instead of |max-height|. If you upgrade from that version you'll 
need to adjust old customizations like: |height: auto| → |max-height: none|, 
and replace other |height| usages for |max-height|.


The example customizations on that page have been updated, but people 
need to adjust them in their user style sheets, too.  A common side 
effect of not doing so is experiencing overlapping content [4][5].  As 
much as I'm sorry for the inconvenience it causes people just need to 
step in and adjust their styles.


-

Next, v1.0 seems to have broken [6][7] the "Expand all quotes by 
default" customization, so v1.1 was released yesterday.  All users of 
the "Expand all quotes by default" customization should note 
:



- Fixed/restored "Expand all quotes by default" support (broken in 1.0)
Note though, the necessary style has a tiny change in a 
backward-incompatible manner – users who customise the AddOn need to adjust 
(see the customising instructions).


Here's the necessary change highlighted:

BODY.mailview blockquote[type="cite"][qctoggled="true"] {

  ↓

BODY.mailview blockquote[type="cite"][qctoggled="false"] {

-

If you have followed all instructions given here, and still experiencing 
a problem with QC, you may try pinging me on these support groups (I'm 
not really following m.s.thunderbird, but m.s.seamonkey), or opening an 
issue here (the "Support site" link on the AMO page):


https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues

-

Apart from all mentioned previously, I recommend people trying out the 
new "Partially collapse quotes" customization (just before the last 
example on the "Customisation" page).  Here's a demo of what it looks 
like (contains traces of other personal customizations not related to QC):


 1. Instead of just seeing an attribution line as part of the collapsed 
quote, part or complete text of it is immediately seen as context to the 
reply:


https://i.imgur.com/ZghEaKm.png

 2. Expanding top-level quote reveals more of the nested collapsed quotes:

https://i.imgur.com/Fd3agLi.png

 3. One may also skip the previous step and directly expand a nested quote:

https://i.imgur.com/VjO4jC3.png


Enough said, have a nice day everyone.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/quotecollapse/
[2] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/pull/1
[3] http://mjg.github.io/QuoteCollapse/customising.html
[4] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/2
[5] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/7
[6] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/4
[7] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/pull/5

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Re: Getting Extensions working.

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Sat, 2 Jun 2018 01:56:15 +0300, _Stanimir Stamenkov_:

Fri, 1 Jun 2018 20:05:56 +1000, _Daniel_:

Daniel wrote on 01/06/18 19:52:

2.    QuoteCollapse 1.0 I've just installed this and re-started SM, 
but the news posts weren't showing as collapsed, so I checked the 
Add-on Manager screen and it's listed with the options to "Disable" 
or "Remove". (I haven't checked in Win7 SM to see if this is working!!)


What need I do to get Lightning and QuoteCollapse functional in Linux 
SM, please??


When I re-restarted SM, I found QuoteCollapse was working ... to such 
an extent that I was only seeing the most recent posts, i.e. the 
messages that I actually clicked on. Can I set QC to show, maybe, the 
last three or four posts in the thread??


I'll post some details and clarifications for QuoteCollapse 1.0+ 
tomorrow (or later today, depending on time zone).


So I've sent out "[ANN] QuoteCollapse 1.0+ backward-incompatibility 
(longish)", but it got likely hold off for moderation as I've 
cross-posted it to mozilla.support.thunderbird, too.  I'm attaching it 
here, and hope it will get through.  Daniel, please have a look at it 
and see if any of the stuff mentioned would help you resolve your 
current issues.


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--- Begin Message ---
For those of you using the QuoteCollapse [1] extension, I'm the author 
of the changes included in version 1.0 (one may peek at [2] for some 
more details), and I want to stress out a detail which doesn't appear as 
obvious as it could be.


Now, if you just use the extension out-of-the-box with no user 
customizations you should not notice any change.  All users which have 
previously applied customizations need to see the following:


v1.0 :

  * [Backward-compatibility] Default styles now use max-height instead 
of height. Existing customizations need to be adjusted – see Customising 
on the website for details;


The "Customising" [3] page further includes:

Note, up to QuoteCollapse v0.9 the default styles used CSS |height| 
property instead of |max-height|. If you upgrade from that version you'll 
need to adjust old customizations like: |height: auto| → |max-height: none|, 
and replace other |height| usages for |max-height|.


The example customizations on that page have been updated, but people 
need to adjust them in their user style sheets, too.  A common side 
effect of not doing so is experiencing overlapping content [4][5].  As 
much as I'm sorry for the inconvenience it causes people just need to 
step in and adjust their styles.


-

Next, v1.0 seems to have broken [6][7] the "Expand all quotes by 
default" customization, so v1.1 was released yesterday.  All users of 
the "Expand all quotes by default" customization should note 
:



- Fixed/restored "Expand all quotes by default" support (broken in 1.0)
Note though, the necessary style has a tiny change in a 
backward-incompatible manner – users who customise the AddOn need to adjust 
(see the customising instructions).


Here's the necessary change highlighted:

BODY.mailview blockquote[type="cite"][qctoggled="true"] {

  ↓

BODY.mailview blockquote[type="cite"][qctoggled="false"] {

-

If you have followed all instructions given here, and still experiencing 
a problem with QC, you may try pinging me on these support groups (I'm 
not really following m.s.thunderbird, but m.s.seamonkey), or opening an 
issue here (the "Support site" link on the AMO page):


https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues

-

Apart from all mentioned previously, I recommend people trying out the 
new "Partially collapse quotes" customization (just before the last 
example on the "Customisation" page).  Here's a demo of what it looks 
like (contains traces of other personal customizations not related to QC):


 1. Instead of just seeing an attribution line as part of the collapsed 
quote, part or complete text of it is immediately seen as context to the 
reply:


https://i.imgur.com/ZghEaKm.png

 2. Expanding top-level quote reveals more of the nested collapsed quotes:

https://i.imgur.com/Fd3agLi.png

 3. One may also skip the previous step and directly expand a nested quote:

https://i.imgur.com/VjO4jC3.png


Enough said, have a nice day everyone.

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/quotecollapse/
[2] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/pull/1
[3] http://mjg.github.io/QuoteCollapse/customising.html
[4] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/2
[5] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/7
[6] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/issues/4
[7] https://github.com/mjg/QuoteCollapse/pull/5

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Re: Getting Extensions working.

[Daniel]

Petr Voralek wrote on 02/06/18 05:48:

Hello!

   On Friday, 01.06.2018 11:52(+0200) *Daniel* wrote, and I quote (in part):

2.  QuoteCollapse 1.0 I've just installed this and re-started SM, but the
news posts weren't showing as collapsed, so I checked the Add-on Manager
screen and it's listed with the options to "Disable" or "Remove". (I
haven't checked in Win7 SM to see if this is working!!)

   You can modify the behavior of this addon using css:
http://mjg.github.io/QuoteCollapse/customising.html
   It has been working for me for years (on Debian)...


Thanks for that, Petr.

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Re: Getting Extensions working.

[Daniel]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 02/06/18 08:56:

Fri, 1 Jun 2018 20:05:56 +1000, _Daniel_:

Daniel wrote on 01/06/18 19:52:

2.    QuoteCollapse 1.0 I've just installed this and re-started SM, 
but the news posts weren't showing as collapsed, so I checked the 
Add-on Manager screen and it's listed with the options to "Disable" 
or "Remove". (I haven't checked in Win7 SM to see if this is working!!)


What need I do to get Lightning and QuoteCollapse functional in Linux 
SM, please??


When I re-restarted SM, I found QuoteCollapse was working ... to such 
an extent that I was only seeing the most recent posts, i.e. the 
messages that I actually clicked on. Can I set QC to show, maybe, the 
last three or four posts in the thread??


I'll post some details and clarifications for QuoteCollapse 1.0+ 
tomorrow (or later today, depending on time zone).



Thanks Stanimir. ;-)

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Re: Getting Extensions working.

[Daniel]

WaltS48 wrote on 01/06/18 23:45:

On 6/1/18 6:05 AM, Daniel wrote:

Daniel wrote on 01/06/18 19:52:

I'm enquiring about the function of two extensions ...

1. Lightning 5.4 I installed it on my Win7 SM 2.49.3 and it 
showed up on the Win7 SM M & N screen ... but it doesn't show on my 
Linux SM 2.49.3. When I look at my Linux SM Add-ons Manager screen, 
it's showing as Disabled and I only have the option to "Remove" it.


2.    QuoteCollapse 1.0 I've just installed this and re-started SM, 
but the news posts weren't showing as collapsed, so I checked the 
Add-on Manager screen and it's listed with the options to "Disable" 
or "Remove". (I haven't checked in Win7 SM to see if this is working!!)


What need I do to get Lightning and QuoteCollapse functional in Linux 
SM, please??


When I re-restarted SM, I found QuoteCollapse was working ... to such 
an extent that I was only seeing the most recent posts, i.e. the 
messages that I actually clicked on. Can I set QC to show, maybe, the 
last three or four posts in the thread??


And Lightning is still not showing in Linux SM!



Are you sharing a profile?


Yes, Walt, I do share my profile. I wondered if that might have been the 
problem! ;-(


If so, your Linux version of SeaMonkey is probably detecting the Windows 
version of Lightning from the shared profile.


There are 4 versions of Lightning, one for win32, linux-i686, 
linux-x86_64 and mac.


Not sure how you work around that without having separate profiles for 
each version of SM.


Hmm!! If that is the case, and as I mainly use Linux-x86_64, unless I 
hear otherwise, I guess I'll have to delete the Win7 version and install 
the Linux-x86_64 version!


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