Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-06-14 Thread stan 

NFN Smith wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:
Just wanted to let the group know that I found myself totally unable 
to complete a customs form on the USPS website on Monday.  I wound up 
having to physically fill one out at the local post office to get my 
package sent.


This is impacting more that SeaMonkey, I was unable to do so with the 
CURRENT FireFox and Google Chrome either here on my linux mint 18.3 
x64 system!  I can only assume that their snooping is not happy with 
linux browsers.


I assume that at some point I could spoof a user agent string that 
will make USPS happy, but this is getting ridiculous when current 
releases of major browsers are not being supported simply because 
they are linux releases.



One related note --

If you're having problems with a site, where you end up spoofing your 
UA string, and then you have continued problems with the site, it may 
not be just the UA that's causing problems.


Take a moment to clear your cache then restart Seamonkey.  A clean 
cache can really help.


Smith


Thanks, very helpful, it fixed my problem with the PayPal
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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-06-14 Thread cmcadams 

 Mr. Ed  wrote:

On 06/14/18 2:57 PM, cmcadams wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to track my 
packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated browsers. To 
continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about to come 
to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for about 15 years, 
but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a pain in the neck to keep 
switching between browsers for certain websites. I like having one browser for 
everything.




Just wanted to let the group know that I found myself totally unable to complete a 
customs form on the USPS website on Monday.  I wound up having to physically fill 
one out at the local post office to get my package sent.


This is impacting more that SeaMonkey, I was unable to do so with the CURRENT 
FireFox and Google Chrome either here on my linux mint 18.3 x64 system!  I can 
only assume that their snooping is not happy with linux browsers.


I assume that at some point I could spoof a user agent string that will make USPS 
happy, but this is getting ridiculous when current releases of major browsers are 
not being supported simply because they are linux releases.


Dave


For what it's worth, my UA string for USPS is spoofed as

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0

and when the same (red) message appears I click on "Read more" and it tells me I am 
virtuous and everything is ducky. No functional problems, but I haven't tried to do 
much on USPS lately.




Logged into my account using the string:

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.4



On the line that says they are not going to support out of date browsers, I clicked 
on the "read more" line and got:



  Good news — your browser is up to date.

You can continue to access all USPS.com features with your current browser 
version.

Thank you for using USPS.com!

So it looks like they DO support SeaMonkey.

--
"This is America!  You can't make a horse
  testify against himself!"  Mister Ed



Sneaky or honest, whatever gets you in. I'm not a strict constructionist when it 
comes to UA strings.


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-06-14 Thread  Mr . Ed  

  
  
On 06/14/18 2:57 PM, cmcadams wrote:

David H.
  Durgee wrote:
  
  Mozilla User wrote:

First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I
  will soon no longer be able to track my packages through USPS
  using SeaMonkey.
  
  
  When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
  
  Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support
  outdated browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade
  your browser. Read more ›
  
  
  :(
  
  
  I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey
  are about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have
  been a loyal user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need
  to switch to FireFox. It's just a pain in the neck to keep
  switching between browsers for certain websites. I like having
  one browser for everything.
  
  


Just wanted to let the group know that I found myself totally
unable to complete a customs form on the USPS website on
Monday.  I wound up having to physically fill one out at the
local post office to get my package sent.


This is impacting more that SeaMonkey, I was unable to do so
with the CURRENT FireFox and Google Chrome either here on my
linux mint 18.3 x64 system!  I can only assume that their
snooping is not happy with linux browsers.


I assume that at some point I could spoof a user agent string
that will make USPS happy, but this is getting ridiculous when
current releases of major browsers are not being supported
simply because they are linux releases.


Dave

  
  
  For what it's worth, my UA string for USPS is spoofed as
  
  
  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101
  Firefox/59.0
  
  
  and when the same (red) message appears I click on "Read more" and
  it tells me I am virtuous and everything is ducky. No functional
  problems, but I haven't tried to do much on USPS lately.
  
  


Logged into my account using the string:
  

User Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.4


  On the line that says they are not going to support out of
  date browsers, I clicked on the "read more" line and got:
  

  
Good news — your browser is
up to date.
 
You can continue to access all USPS.com
features with your current browser version.
 
Thank you for using USPS.com!
  
So it looks like
  they DO support SeaMonkey.
  
  

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 testify against himself!"  Mister Ed
  

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-06-14 Thread cmcadams 

David H. Durgee wrote:

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to track my 
packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated browsers. To 
continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are about to come to 
an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal user for about 15 years, but 
now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. It's just a pain in the neck to keep 
switching between browsers for certain websites. I like having one browser for 
everything.




Just wanted to let the group know that I found myself totally unable to complete a 
customs form on the USPS website on Monday.  I wound up having to physically fill one 
out at the local post office to get my package sent.


This is impacting more that SeaMonkey, I was unable to do so with the CURRENT FireFox 
and Google Chrome either here on my linux mint 18.3 x64 system!  I can only assume 
that their snooping is not happy with linux browsers.


I assume that at some point I could spoof a user agent string that will make USPS 
happy, but this is getting ridiculous when current releases of major browsers are not 
being supported simply because they are linux releases.


Dave


For what it's worth, my UA string for USPS is spoofed as

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:59.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/59.0

and when the same (red) message appears I click on "Read more" and it tells me I am 
virtuous and everything is ducky. No functional problems, but I haven't tried to do 
much on USPS lately.


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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-06-14 Thread NFN Smith 

David H. Durgee wrote:
Just wanted to let the group know that I found myself totally unable to 
complete a customs form on the USPS website on Monday.  I wound up 
having to physically fill one out at the local post office to get my 
package sent.


This is impacting more that SeaMonkey, I was unable to do so with the 
CURRENT FireFox and Google Chrome either here on my linux mint 18.3 x64 
system!  I can only assume that their snooping is not happy with linux 
browsers.


I assume that at some point I could spoof a user agent string that will 
make USPS happy, but this is getting ridiculous when current releases of 
major browsers are not being supported simply because they are linux 
releases.



One related note --

If you're having problems with a site, where you end up spoofing your UA 
string, and then you have continued problems with the site, it may not 
be just the UA that's causing problems.


Take a moment to clear your cache then restart Seamonkey.  A clean cache 
can really help.


Smith

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Re: Testing Marking Cross-posts as read in SeaMonkey

2018-06-14 Thread Daniel 

WaltS48 wrote on 14/06/18 10:01:

On 6/13/18 3:36 PM, Balaco ocalaB wrote:

Em 13-06-2018 14:43, David E. Ross escreveu:

On 6/12/2018 10:14 PM, Daniel wrote:

I do a fair bit of reading of posts on UseNet which are often
cross-posted, but the cross-posts are not getting marked as read.

I know this did function, long ago, in Netscape Navigator, got broken
(was that in Mozilla Suite??) and still doesn't work in SeaMonkey 
and, I

guess, in Thunderbird.

So I'm cross-posting this to three groups on the news.mozilla.org 
server

so I can have a bit of a look ... and play!!

The way I figure, there must be information in the message headers 
which
is common to all the cross-posts but different to any other posts in 
any

of the mentioned groups.

If you're not interested, please killfile this thread in the three news
groups.



This is bug #43278, reported 18 years ago.  The problem is in the
MailNews Core component, whiich means it affects both SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  This worked in Netscape Communicator 4, which means that
this could be fixed.

See .



 From that page:

- Importance: major
- Status: NEW
- Reported: 18 years ago (as you said)
- Modified: a year ago

An opinion: it is just silly to only write a sentence about when 
things were written, instead of saying the actual date. A year ago may 
be a year and 11 months ago - in other words, a year ago may be in 
2016! 18 years ago may be in the first half of 1999!





An opinion: learn how things work.

If you hover your mouse over "18 years ago" you see a tooltip (you know 
what those are, right) with the date 2000-06-21 01:03 PDT.


The same for "a year ago" 2017-03-17 06:51 PDT

The last comment was made "2 years ago" 2016-12-24 11:24 PST.

Walt, the bug mentioned (43278) mentions the Xref line in the message 
header. It seems that line is common to all the cross-posted messages, 
with (maybe, hopefully) the number following each news group name 
represents the actually message number with-in the group.


So, maybe, it might be as simply (Ha!! Ha!!) as making that number in 
the appropriate groups line of the news.mozilla.com.rc file to indicate 
that the message has been read  and job done!!


Cross-posted to m.test

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Daniel

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-06-14 Thread stan 

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for 
certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.


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For me USPS works a OK, however, PayPal is asking for other browser as 
of today.
May HTTP_USER_AGENT: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.3

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Re: USPS website will soon no longer support SeaMonkey

2018-06-14 Thread stan 

Mozilla User wrote:
First YouTube, then YahooMail, now I will soon no longer be able to 
track my packages through USPS using SeaMonkey.


When on the USPS using SeaMonkey, I get this message:
Alert: As of April 30, USPS.com will no longer support outdated 
browsers. To continue access, you may need to upgrade your browser. 
Read more ›


:(

I guess years of using the Mozilla Browser, and then SeaMonkey are 
about to come to an end. I loved the idea of it and have been a loyal 
user for about 15 years, but now I guess I need to switch to FireFox. 
It's just a pain in the neck to keep switching between browsers for 
certain websites. I like having one browser for everything.


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For me USPS works fine, however, PayPal stop accepting SM on Windows 10 
just today.

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