Re: Manual installation of 2.49.3

[Ray Davison]

Ray Davison wrote:


In case someone doubts hat this system works, below is the body of the 
first email I received.  I still have it.  My mail has never been lost.


This is cut and paste so it is not the original formatting.

*
First email 2 June 1997

Regarding whether a version of SM will work with a profile that was 
created while a different version was running.  The above noted message 
was received in Netscape running under OS/2.  I have said do not get rid 
of an app until you are sure you like the replacement better.  I treat 
OSs the same way.  I install the new OS on another partition.  By the 
time I got the above noted message I was booting multiple versions of 
DOS, W9X and OS/2.  My current desktops mostly have WXP and W7 - I have 
tried W8 and WX and deleted both.


And all my HDDs are front panel plugin,  The first HDD is OSs only.  My 
OS backups are cloned HDDs and I may have two or three.  And then there 
are trial OS installations on other HDDs.  The point is that is a lot of 
OSs using the same profile and mail files.


Changes in the SM app have made changes to the profiles - 1X to 2X being 
the most obvious.  Whenever I ran a new version of the app I had it use 
the profile I had been using with the prior version.  SM made whatever 
changes were required, even the 1X to 2X.


After SM changed the profile for the newer app I may or may not have 
been able to use that profile for an earlier version of the app.  I 
currently have 2.40, 2.46, 2.48 and 2.50 and am not aware of any issues 
using the same profile for all of them.


BUT, all the discussion I have seen here concerns how to maintain 
whatever data was in the earlier profile after the new app is running. 
In two decades of Mozilla suite and SM I have never needed to do 
anything but;


Unzip to a sub-directory to your choice of name and place

Create a shortcut with the run line of the form
H:\SM250-Win\seamonkey.exe -Profilemanager

The above just requires adding a space and
"-Profilemanager" to the run line.

Run shortcut

The above assumes you have already set up you profile(S) with your 
choice of location and name and created an entry in Profile manager.


Replacing or adding a version of SM is just not an issue for concern.

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Re: Manual installation of 2.49.3

[Ray Davison]

EE wrote:


You could also save emails as .eml files and put them into a separate 
directory anywhere.



Why would I want to change the file format?


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.3 released

[sean]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.3!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.3, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.3 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

It's been a very difficult release (but it still can't compare with
2.46...  )


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.3
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.3/




Great Work Gang... just reinstalled again into the latest respin of 
PeppermintOS... beta versions being finalized for release of Peppermint 
9 in a few days...


sean
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Re: Welcome to mozilla.support.seamonkey

[sean]

Dave Miller wrote:

Welcome to mozilla.support.seamonkey



Nice to have this installed again today 12 years later and change in my 
PeppermintOS Linux install...


sean
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Re: User agent settings for Seamonkey

[NFN Smith]

Chuck wrote:
For those of us who are not experts in this sort of thing would someone 
post an explaination of this?

Chuck



Others have already responded to this, and I'll leave it to the links 
they posted to address most of the mechanics.  In Seamonkey, the easiest 
way of doing spoofing is via extension (using the older XUL structure 
and not WebExtensions versions that run in current versions of Firefox). 
 Either User Agent Switcher or PrefBar work. Personally, I prefer 
PrefBar, but either is workable.  It's also possible to do per-site 
spoofing via settings in your prefs.js file.


If you set up spoofing, one thing that you have to do regularly is to 
update your strings to match more or less current versions of what 
you're trying to spoof.  Thus, if you occasionally need to show a 
Firefox UA, you'll want it to show something close to the current 
Firefox 60.0.2, rather than something old, like Firefox 38.0.


For me, I find three common reasons to do spoofing:

1) Sites that demand particular browsers (or versions). Historically, 
the issue has been with sites that claim to support only IE, Google 
Chrome, Firefox and Safari. Those problems mostly went away a few years 
ago when the Seamonkey devs added "Advertise Firefox Compatibility" as a 
config setting.  That one causes Seamonkey to show a Firefox UA string, 
and then appends Seamonkey detail at the end.  That's a common thing for 
browsers that are derivatives of others.  Thus, if you use Opera, where 
the current versions are derived from Google Chrome, it will show a 
Chrome UA, but Opera detail at the end of the string.


Since the introduction of Advertise Firefox Compatibility, I've found it 
very rare that sites complain about my use of Seamonkey, although 
there's occasional exceptions.  The archives of this newsgroup will show 
several discussions over the last few years about issues with chase.com.


More recently, it's becoming more common for sites to complain about 
Seamonkey, but it's not so much Seamonkey that they're complaining 
about, but a UA string that shows a relatively old version of Firefox. 
Seamonkey 2.49.3 is based on Firefox 52.x ESR, and there's a lot of 
sites that don't know (or don't care) about the ESR version.  Thus, more 
sites that are insisting on reasonably current versions of Firefox, 
typically 57.0 or newer. I don't do a lot with the ESR version, but a 
user running an ESR release will probably get the same complaints about 
an old browser.


2) Platform issues.  For support purposes, I have a fairly extensive 
collection of downloaded software, for both Windows and Mac. There's a 
lot of developers that have the idea that if you're at their site 
looking for downloads, you intend to install immediately. Thus, some 
sites try to "help" by checking your User Agent string, and looking for 
the platform information.  If you're running a 32-bit version of 
Windows, you'll get the 32-bit installer (and not the 64-bit version). 
If you're running Mac, then you'll get the Mac installer.


In my case, I may want all of them, and so I sometimes have to resort to 
spoofing to show the necessary platform.  Thus, working from Windows, 
I'll change the UA to show a browser that's running from a Mac (and it 
really doesn't matter whether it's Seamonkey, Firefox, Chrome, Safari, 
or anything, so long as it's communicating that the platform is a Mac). 
Download the Mac version, then switch the UA back to the default.


3) I maintain a web page, and I do a measure of tracking of activity by 
browser usage. Most web sites see some quantity of malicious access 
attempts by bots, and it's common that bots show forged UA strings, 
often versions that are really old, or invalid. I've seen a lot of 
activity from a bot that shows "Firefox 40.1" (never valid), and I have 
my site configured to reject connections if that's in the UA.  When I 
was setting up that particular filter, it was easy to spoof that in my 
own browser, to ensure that the server was rejecting that particular 
connection.



Smith

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Re: User agent settings for Seamonkey

[David E. Ross]

On 6/20/2018 7:10 AM, Chuck wrote:
> For those of us who are not experts in this sort of thing would someone 
> post an explaination of this?
> Chuck
> 

Using a fake user agent (UA) string to make a Web server act as if a
browser being used is different from the actual browser (e.g., as if
Opera were being used when actually Firefox is being used) is called
"spoofing".  See my
.  Immediately
below "spoof" is a discussion of "UA".

The reason someone might want to spoof a different browser is discussed
in my "Browser Sniffing: Detecting It, Dealing With It, and Defeating
It" at .  On that Web
page, the section "Defeating Browser Sniffing" is specifically oriented
towards SeaMonkey.  That section cites two extensions, either of which
facilitates spoofing.  Those are NOT Webextensions, so they should still
work with SeaMonkey but will not work with Firefox.

-- 
David E. Ross


Attorney-General Sessions claims the bible favors imprisoning illegal
aliens.  However, God repeatedly commanded us to welcome the stranger in
our land.  For example, see the following:
Exodus 22:20 at

Exodus 23:9 at

Deuteronomy 10:19 at

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Re: User agent settings for Seamonkey

[Ed Mullen]

Chuck wrote:
For those of us who are not experts in this sort of thing would someone 
post an explaination of this?

Chuck




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User agent settings for Seamonkey

[Chuck]

For those of us who are not experts in this sort of thing would someone 
post an explaination of this?

Chuck
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Re: Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[Daniel]

null wrote on 20/06/2018 8:03 PM:
Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, was 
discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it without 
problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started to play up 
and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the hope 
that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here in 
case there is someone who can help.


As you suggest, Sunbird is very, very, old, and, I think, you'll find no 
longer supported.


However there is now an extension called "Lightning" which, I think, 
does the same sort of stuff, and you might find support for it in the 
newsgroup mozilla.support.calender on this server.


Give it a go.
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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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The new AdWords experience is not supported for your current browser

[Arnie Goetchius]

That is the message I get when I access the trial version of the "new" Adwords 
that starts in July.
I can still access the "new" version by clicking on something like "access 
anyway" and it seems to
work okay. Whether the "access anyway" icon will still be there in July is an 
unknown.
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Question about Mozilla Sunbird

[null]

Development of Sunbird, the Mozilla Calendar and appointments app, was 
discontinued quite a while back, but I have continued to use it without 
problems. Unfortunately, the HD I was running it on started to play up 
and I lost access, so I installed it on another computer and carried on.


I have now resurrected the "bad" HD, but I want to transfer all the 
historical data sitting there in Sunbird to the new computer. Problem 
is, I cannot figure out what Sunbird file this data resides in, so I 
cannot even attempt to transfer the file to the new install in the hope 
that Sunbird will somehow pick it up and display the contents.


Can't find any info about this anywhere, so I'm posting my query here in 
case there is someone who can help.

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