Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

2019-12-14 Thread Jonathan N. Little
DoctorBill wrote:
> Sorry - I already ran the setup and SM is up and running on the "New"
> machine.
> Confusing stuff.
> I did go to Users and got into the "Profile" (I remember THAT !) and copied
> abook.mab and bookmarks.html  and pref.js to a thumbdrive.
> 
> If I shove them into the same place on the New Machine, will THAT work ?
> I am like a boulder rolling around in a Glassware store !

No problem just:

1) Close SeaMonkey

2) In File Explorer go to "%APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey"
 (Hidden path unless you have Show Hidden Files Folders enabled)

3) Delete "Profiles" folder and "profiles.ini" file.

4) Copy "Profiles" folder and "profiles.ini" file from old Windows 7
system it will be the same path fill path if your username is bill
 "C:\Users\Bill\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey"

5) Start SeaMonkey and your Windows 7 profile will be on the new system.


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Re: ATT email

2019-12-14 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Ray Davison wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Mine works.
I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to
myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they
forgot to renew the cert.


Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com
account?


I do not have a x...@yahoo.com acct other than yahoo web mail.

ATT.net settings:
Outgoing:
smtp.att.yahoo.com (Default)
Port 465
m...@att.net
Normal password
SSL/TLS

Incoming:
pop.att.yahoo.com
port 995
SSL/TLS
Auth = normal password

As Walt mentioned, I keep hearing about needing a "Secure Mail Key".
I do not have one.  If that becomes necessary I will use pop or imap 
gmail instead.


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Re: ATT email

2019-12-14 Thread Ray Davison

WaltS48 wrote:


Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a 
x...@yahoo.com account?



IMAP or POP3 account? Which type are you setting up?


I don't care.  Anything that will work.  Will you post your settings?





"Computer email program" gets me.

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You're looking for something that moved or doesn't exist.

We work to keep our site updated with the most current information, so
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back to where you were, or return to esupport home.


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Re: ATT email

2019-12-14 Thread WaltS48

On 12/14/19 4:38 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Mine works.
I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to 
myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they 
forgot to renew the cert.


Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com 
account?




IMAP or POP3 account? Which type are you setting up?



You may have to create a "Secure Mail Key".



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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

2019-12-14 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 2.49.1 
SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 running 
(Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine to the 
newer one ?

It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember how.

Things are changing so fast !

DoctorBill


I just did all I wanted to do !
I explained it - took a while.then it disappeared here !  Never 
showed up.


DoctorBill
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Re: ATT email

2019-12-14 Thread Ray Davison

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Mine works.
I got a pop up about an invalid certificate and I clicked to continue,
being fairly sure that ATT really was ATT.  Sent several emails to 
myself to verify.  Either ATT (Yahoo) made some more changes or they 
forgot to renew the cert.


Will you post your in and out settings to have SM manage a x...@yahoo.com 
account?


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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

2019-12-14 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son

DoctorBill wrote:

NFN Smith wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 2.49.1 
SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 
running (Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine to 
the newer one ?

It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember how.


Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: this is pretty easy with Mozilla applications.  What to 
do:


1) Install Seamonkey on the new machine, but don't start it up (i.e., 
don't run the setup wizard).


2) Get a copy of the contents of %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey (the 
entire folder) on the old machine. If you haven't set up networked 
sharing, the fastest way to do this is to copy to a USB device (thumb 
drive or external hard drive).


3) On the new machine, copy all your data %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey, 
and you're all set to go, where Seamonkey on the new machine is 
working with an exact and complete copy of what was on your old machine.


I will note that for this, I'm using Windows environment variables (as 
Seamonkey does itself) to find your profile data, rather than trying 
to explain how to find the data in C:\Users\  If you enter the 
location in the address bar in the Windows Explorer, that will get you 
to the correct location, even though your AppData folder is normally 
hidden. The environment variable gets you to the correct location on 
the first try, and ignores the fact that the folder is hidden.


As an aside, this is useful to know for the purposes of making backups 
of profiles.  Because AppData is hidden, Microsoft makes it difficult 
to back up data stored there, and there are a few apps where you 
actually want to back up your data.  All Mozilla apps (not just 
SeaMonkey, but Firefox and Thunderbird, as well) store data in 
AppData, and if you know how to access via environment variable, then 
it's relatively easy to make sure that data gets included when you're 
doing backups.



One minor complication -- I moved a Seamonkey profile to a new 
computer several months ago, using this methodology.  The one problem 
that I had was with newsgroups, in handling read/unread.  For most of 
my newsgroups, I was able to get things to behave, but in a few cases, 
I had to resort to doing a Repair Folder (and re-downloading the 
entire history of headers).  And in one or two newsgroups, that didn't 
work, and I had to unsubscribe and resubscribe the newsgroups.  Not 
really a significant problem, but annoying.


Smith



Sorry - I already ran the setup and SM is up and running on the "New" 
machine.

Confusing stuff.
I did go to Users and got into the "Profile" (I remember THAT !) and copied
abook.mab and bookmarks.html  and pref.js to a thumbdrive.

If I shove them into the same place on the New Machine, will THAT work ?
I am like a boulder rolling around in a Glassware store !

DoctorBill


You want to migrate your entire profile to the new machine, just as NFN 
said.  That way you keep your emails, passwords, bookmarks (which are 
not in bookmarks.html any more) on the new system.  I'm not sure about 
Calendar entries, I migrated mine recently and some of them were lost in 
the move.
I'd tend to delete your new profile, if you need an empty one then you 
can create a new one.


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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

2019-12-14 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 2.49.1 
SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 running 
(Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine to the 
newer one ?

It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember how.

Things are changing so fast !

DoctorBill


Oh Heck !  I remember the "IMPORT" functions !
Can I import bookmarks and mail from this version on Win 7  TO
the one running in Win 10 ?
I found abooks and bookmarks on this machine and put them on a thumbdrive !

DB

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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

2019-12-14 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

NFN Smith wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 2.49.1 
SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 
running (Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine to 
the newer one ?

It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember how.


Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: this is pretty easy with Mozilla applications.  What to 
do:


1) Install Seamonkey on the new machine, but don't start it up (i.e., 
don't run the setup wizard).


2) Get a copy of the contents of %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey (the 
entire folder) on the old machine. If you haven't set up networked 
sharing, the fastest way to do this is to copy to a USB device (thumb 
drive or external hard drive).


3) On the new machine, copy all your data %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey, 
and you're all set to go, where Seamonkey on the new machine is 
working with an exact and complete copy of what was on your old machine.


I will note that for this, I'm using Windows environment variables (as 
Seamonkey does itself) to find your profile data, rather than trying 
to explain how to find the data in C:\Users\  If you enter the 
location in the address bar in the Windows Explorer, that will get you 
to the correct location, even though your AppData folder is normally 
hidden. The environment variable gets you to the correct location on 
the first try, and ignores the fact that the folder is hidden.


As an aside, this is useful to know for the purposes of making backups 
of profiles.  Because AppData is hidden, Microsoft makes it difficult 
to back up data stored there, and there are a few apps where you 
actually want to back up your data.  All Mozilla apps (not just 
SeaMonkey, but Firefox and Thunderbird, as well) store data in 
AppData, and if you know how to access via environment variable, then 
it's relatively easy to make sure that data gets included when you're 
doing backups.



One minor complication -- I moved a Seamonkey profile to a new 
computer several months ago, using this methodology.  The one problem 
that I had was with newsgroups, in handling read/unread.  For most of 
my newsgroups, I was able to get things to behave, but in a few cases, 
I had to resort to doing a Repair Folder (and re-downloading the 
entire history of headers).  And in one or two newsgroups, that didn't 
work, and I had to unsubscribe and resubscribe the newsgroups.  Not 
really a significant problem, but annoying.


Smith



Sorry - I already ran the setup and SM is up and running on the "New" 
machine.

Confusing stuff.
I did go to Users and got into the "Profile" (I remember THAT !) and copied
abook.mab and bookmarks.html  and pref.js to a thumbdrive.

If I shove them into the same place on the New Machine, will THAT work ?
I am like a boulder rolling around in a Glassware store !

DoctorBill


I can't find any of that stuff in the "New" Windows 10 hard drive (solid 
state).

I supposedly have full "administrator" access to the HD.lol ?

What a mess !

DB
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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

2019-12-14 Thread DoctorBill

NFN Smith wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 2.49.1 
SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 
running (Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine to 
the newer one ?

It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember how.


Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: this is pretty easy with Mozilla applications.  What to do:

1) Install Seamonkey on the new machine, but don't start it up (i.e., 
don't run the setup wizard).


2) Get a copy of the contents of %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey (the entire 
folder) on the old machine. If you haven't set up networked sharing, the 
fastest way to do this is to copy to a USB device (thumb drive or 
external hard drive).


3) On the new machine, copy all your data %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey, 
and you're all set to go, where Seamonkey on the new machine is working 
with an exact and complete copy of what was on your old machine.


I will note that for this, I'm using Windows environment variables (as 
Seamonkey does itself) to find your profile data, rather than trying to 
explain how to find the data in C:\Users\  If you enter the location 
in the address bar in the Windows Explorer, that will get you to the 
correct location, even though your AppData folder is normally hidden. 
The environment variable gets you to the correct location on the first 
try, and ignores the fact that the folder is hidden.


As an aside, this is useful to know for the purposes of making backups 
of profiles.  Because AppData is hidden, Microsoft makes it difficult to 
back up data stored there, and there are a few apps where you actually 
want to back up your data.  All Mozilla apps (not just SeaMonkey, but 
Firefox and Thunderbird, as well) store data in AppData, and if you know 
how to access via environment variable, then it's relatively easy to 
make sure that data gets included when you're doing backups.



One minor complication -- I moved a Seamonkey profile to a new computer 
several months ago, using this methodology.  The one problem that I had 
was with newsgroups, in handling read/unread.  For most of my 
newsgroups, I was able to get things to behave, but in a few cases, I 
had to resort to doing a Repair Folder (and re-downloading the entire 
history of headers).  And in one or two newsgroups, that didn't work, 
and I had to unsubscribe and resubscribe the newsgroups.  Not really a 
significant problem, but annoying.


Smith



Sorry - I already ran the setup and SM is up and running on the "New" 
machine.

Confusing stuff.
I did go to Users and got into the "Profile" (I remember THAT !) and copied
abook.mab and bookmarks.html  and pref.js to a thumbdrive.

If I shove them into the same place on the New Machine, will THAT work ?
I am like a boulder rolling around in a Glassware store !

DoctorBill
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Re: Transferring to Windows 10 system

2019-12-14 Thread NFN Smith

DoctorBill wrote:
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 2.49.1 
SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 running 
(Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine to the 
newer one ?

It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember how.


Short answer: yes.

Longer answer: this is pretty easy with Mozilla applications.  What to do:

1) Install Seamonkey on the new machine, but don't start it up (i.e., 
don't run the setup wizard).


2) Get a copy of the contents of %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey (the entire 
folder) on the old machine. If you haven't set up networked sharing, the 
fastest way to do this is to copy to a USB device (thumb drive or 
external hard drive).


3) On the new machine, copy all your data %APPDATA%\Mozilla\Seamonkey, 
and you're all set to go, where Seamonkey on the new machine is working 
with an exact and complete copy of what was on your old machine.


I will note that for this, I'm using Windows environment variables (as 
Seamonkey does itself) to find your profile data, rather than trying to 
explain how to find the data in C:\Users\  If you enter the location 
in the address bar in the Windows Explorer, that will get you to the 
correct location, even though your AppData folder is normally hidden. 
The environment variable gets you to the correct location on the first 
try, and ignores the fact that the folder is hidden.


As an aside, this is useful to know for the purposes of making backups 
of profiles.  Because AppData is hidden, Microsoft makes it difficult to 
back up data stored there, and there are a few apps where you actually 
want to back up your data.  All Mozilla apps (not just SeaMonkey, but 
Firefox and Thunderbird, as well) store data in AppData, and if you know 
how to access via environment variable, then it's relatively easy to 
make sure that data gets included when you're doing backups.



One minor complication -- I moved a Seamonkey profile to a new computer 
several months ago, using this methodology.  The one problem that I had 
was with newsgroups, in handling read/unread.  For most of my 
newsgroups, I was able to get things to behave, but in a few cases, I 
had to resort to doing a Repair Folder (and re-downloading the entire 
history of headers).  And in one or two newsgroups, that didn't work, 
and I had to unsubscribe and resubscribe the newsgroups.  Not really a 
significant problem, but annoying.


Smith

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Transferring to Windows 10 system

2019-12-14 Thread DoctorBill
Right now, as I write this, I am on a Windows 7 system using 2.49.1 
SeaMonkey.


I bought a Dell "All-In-One" compuker with the latest Windows 10 running 
(Uggg!) and loaded

SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

Can I COPY my E-Mail, Bookmarks, Passwords, etc from this machine to the 
newer one ?

It has been YEARS since I did such a thing and I don't remember how.

Things are changing so fast !

DoctorBill
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