Re: Modify two request headers

[David E. Ross]

On 2/24/2020 1:06 PM, Gerry Hickman wrote:
> 
> I have a router with a web interface. It worked with SeaMonkey 2.7, but 
> recent versions of SeaMonkey add two headers to each request
>   DNT: 1
>   Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
> the router doesn't like any header that it doesn't understand
> 
> I found a way to "fix" this in FireFox
> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-modify-header/
> You create a URL pattern, so it only affects one site, then you tell it 
> to remove the two headers you don't want (for that site only)
> 
> Just wondering if there's a way to do this in SeaMonkey?
> 

Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 x64
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.5
Netgear N300 Wireless Router Model WNR2000v5 (WiFi disabled and
connection via cable) (4 years old)
Motorola MB7220 V1.0 DOCSIS 3.0 cable modem (3 years old)

I just now captured HTTP headers to an external Web site.  My
configuration is sending both
DNT: 1
Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
Neither my router nor my modem seem to care.  Are you sure your problem
is with your router?  I thought routers and modems only analyzed IP
addresses and URIs.

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Ant]

On 2/24/2020 11:29 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
...


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


OK. Yeah, I have both of those. I use PrefBar to toggle between. I hope 
I can do the same in v2.53 and newer versions.

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[David E. Ross]

On 2/24/2020 10:07 PM, Ant wrote:
> On 2/24/2020 9:58 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
>> Danny Kile wrote:
>>> I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is
>>>
>>> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0
>>>
>>> I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
>>> Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
>>> broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.
>>>
>>> When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the 
>>> new version and went to my archives and installed a version that I 
>>> knew worked. Well that did not fix the problem.
>>>
>>> It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things 
>>> you may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of 
>>> the web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to 
>>> are gray.
>>>
>>> I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
>>> What course of action do I need to take here?
>>>
>>> Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the 
>>> same driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me 
>>> over.
>>>
>>> Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.
>>>
>>> Danny,
>>
>> If it were me I would try some other UA.
>> If that did not work then I would do a system restore.
>> If you want html5: about:config:  media.html5video.blocked  set to false.
>> I block html5 due to its intrusiveness.
> 
> I don't see media.html5video.blocked in my SM v2.49.5's about:config list.
> 

I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.

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Re: Best version of Adobe Flash Player

[David E. Ross]

On 2/24/2020 9:17 PM, Danny Kile wrote:
> What is the best version of Adobe Flash Player to run on Windows 7 Home 
> Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Danny
> 

Adobe's corporate blog indicates that Flash will no longer be maintained
or distributed after the end of 2020.  See
.

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Ant wrote:

On 2/24/2020 9:58 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the 
new version and went to my archives and installed a version that I 
knew worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things 
you may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All 
of the web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they 
to are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the 
same driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me 
over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

Danny,


If it were me I would try some other UA.
If that did not work then I would do a system restore.
If you want html5: about:config:  media.html5video.blocked  set to false.
I block html5 due to its intrusiveness.


I don't see media.html5video.blocked in my SM v2.49.5's about:config list.


Oh!  That must have been one of the changes between 2.49.3 and .5
Thanks for the heads up.  Either that or I added it.
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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Ant]

On 2/24/2020 9:58 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the 
new version and went to my archives and installed a version that I 
knew worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things 
you may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of 
the web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to 
are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the 
same driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me 
over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

Danny,


If it were me I would try some other UA.
If that did not work then I would do a system restore.
If you want html5: about:config:  media.html5video.blocked  set to false.
I block html5 due to its intrusiveness.


I don't see media.html5video.blocked in my SM v2.49.5's about:config list.
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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Ant]

On 2/24/2020 8:31 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

 > Anyways, my updated Flash is mostly disabled so YouTube and others 
use HTML5 for videos.



Where are the setting to to disable Flash and the use HTML5 instead?


Hmm, I don't think YouTube uses Flash anymore. Can you try a brand new 
SeaMonkey profile (Profile Manager shortcut in W7's Start Menu) and see 
if you still have this problem?

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Re: Best version of Adobe Flash Player

[Ant]

On 2/24/2020 9:17 PM, Danny Kile wrote:
What is the best version of Adobe Flash Player to run on Windows 7 Home 
Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5?


Danny, the (lat/new)est version from https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. 
Currently, it is at 32.0.0.330. FYI, Adobe usually release a new version 
every second Tuesday of each month. Once in a while, there is no new 
version and a new version not on the second Tuesday of the month.

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the new 
version and went to my archives and installed a version that I knew 
worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things you 
may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of the 
web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the same 
driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

Danny,


If it were me I would try some other UA.
If that did not work then I would do a system restore.
If you want html5: about:config:  media.html5video.blocked  set to false.
I block html5 due to its intrusiveness.
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Best version of Adobe Flash Player

[Danny Kile]

What is the best version of Adobe Flash Player to run on Windows 7 Home 
Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5?


Thank you,

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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

Ant wrote:
I have a similar setup, but noticed your SM's UA is different compared 
to my "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5). Why is your Firefox at v69 and not its 
default v52 and Windows NT6.1? Did you change its UA? Anyways, my 
updated Flash is mostly disabled so YouTube and others use HTML5 for 
videos. I rarely use Flash these days unless the web sites require it.



On 2/24/2020 6:59 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the 
new version and went to my archives and installed a version that I 
knew worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things 
you may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of 
the web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to 
are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the 
same driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me 
over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

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I change my UA for Firefox/52.0.


> Anyways, my updated Flash is mostly disabled so YouTube and others 
use HTML5 for videos.



Where are the setting to to disable Flash and the use HTML5 instead?


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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Ant]

I have a similar setup, but noticed your SM's UA is different compared 
to my "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.5). Why is your Firefox at v69 and not its 
default v52 and Windows NT6.1? Did you change its UA? Anyways, my 
updated Flash is mostly disabled so YouTube and others use HTML5 for 
videos. I rarely use Flash these days unless the web sites require it.



On 2/24/2020 6:59 PM, Danny Kile wrote:

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the new 
version and went to my archives and installed a version that I knew 
worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things you 
may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of the 
web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the same 
driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

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Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

I am running Windows 7 Home Premium and SeaMonkey 2.49.5 UserAgent is

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:69.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/69.0


I recently got a message from Adobe saying I needed to upgrade Flash 
Player. Well, stupid me said OK. (What's that old saying if it ain't 
broke don't fix it. Well, it was not broke put now it is.


When I went to YouTube it would not play any videos. Uninstalled the new 
version and went to my archives and installed a version that I knew 
worked. Well that did not fix the problem.


It show all the recommended boxes that should play reviews of things you 
may want to see. However, all the boxes are are gray boxes. All of the 
web site is mostly gray there are link and radio buttons they to are gray.


I uninstalled that version and now I have no flash player installed. 
What course of action do I need to take here?


Drive Booster says all my drivers are up to date. Plus they are the same 
driver I was using when it was working, before Adobe screwed me over.


Thank you for any help you maybe able to give.

Danny,
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Re: What happens next?

[Felix Miata]

Rubens via support-seamonkey composed on 2020-02-25 01:41 (UTC+0100):
 
>> Seamonkey exists not in any Ubuntu, Debian, nor Red Hat/Fedora
>> repository I checked out, nor any other Linux package. 
 
> That is not correct.
 
> Seamonkey exists for decades in SUSE Linux:
 
> https://packagehub.suse.com/packages/seamonkey/

Also:
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/1.0/seamonkey-1.0.en-US.linux-i686.tar.gz
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_15.2/x86_64/seamonkey-2.49.5-lp152.6.3.x86_64.rpm
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Leap_15.1/x86_64/seamonkey-2.49.5-lp151.6.2.x86_64.rpm
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/x86_64/seamonkey-2.49.5-6.5.x86_64.rpm
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/mozilla/openSUSE_Tumbleweed/i586/seamonkey-2.49.4-1.147.i586.rpm
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.5/linux-x86_64/
https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.5/linux-i686/
http://rpmfind.net/linux/rpm2html/search.php?query=seamonkey
https://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mageia/7/i586/media/core/release/iceape-2.49.4-2.mga7.i586.html
https://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mageia/cauldron/x86_64/media/core/release/iceape-2.49.4-2.mga7.x86_64.html
https://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/mageia/1/x86_64/media/core/release/iceape-2.0.14-2.mga1.x86_64.html
and lots more
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Re: What happens next?

[Rubens via support-seamonkey]

Seamonkey exists not in any Ubuntu, Debian, nor Red Hat/Fedora
repository I checked out, nor any other Linux package. 


That is not correct.

Seamonkey exists for decades in SUSE Linux:

https://packagehub.suse.com/packages/seamonkey/
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Modify two request headers

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

I have a router with a web interface. It worked with SeaMonkey 2.7, but 
recent versions of SeaMonkey add two headers to each request

DNT: 1
Upgrade-Insecure-Requests: 1
the router doesn't like any header that it doesn't understand

I found a way to "fix" this in FireFox
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/simple-modify-header/
You create a URL pattern, so it only affects one site, then you tell it 
to remove the two headers you don't want (for that site only)


Just wondering if there's a way to do this in SeaMonkey?

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Re: What happens next?

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Re: What happens next?


Fri, 21 Feb 2020 01:11 -0800 1lehme...@web.de wrote:
Because I believe that Seamonkey would find more friends again if it
is updated automatically and regularly.


That would certainly help of course!

With total respect for everybody reading and those responding to this
list, certainly to Seamonkey developers:

Question: Is Seamonkey Ubiquitous like Firefox?

Until Seamonkey is distributed and installable like Firefox has been,
available via every repository/kiosk possible, it will not receive
attention, interest, nor respect from ignorant users. --
(Ignorant means lack of knowing!, Not Stupid Nor Dumb!)

Youtube type videos might help attract attention, but must be exposed
more, like maybe add this to our email signature block:
-snip-
 Many videos on Seamonkey Browser:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=seamonkey+browser
-snip-

And Seamonkey must be installable like a cheap cellfone Dvoid app.
Find it, push a button, use it.

If money would really help Seamonkey, we all need to donate as best we
can. But only to Seamonkey, not to Mozilla nor Firefox. Seamonkey
needs support, developers, liberated.

Maybe "Tor" would be a good addition to Seamonkey. It seems to be
failing with Firefox, at least since it was hacked by the Feds. They
are begging for money too! Firefox is not secure, I am not sure about
Seamonkey.

Thank You for reading!

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Many videos on Seamonkey Browser:
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Re: Seamonkey not responding

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Cheryl wrote:
Yes I also get the "Script has stopped responding and do I want to Continue or 
Stop the Script", and I know at that point I need to back out of the site if I 
can. This also happens to me if I go into Password Manager under Tools menu.




The password manager problem is covered in the release notes since some time:

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.5/

>>
If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is busy when 
opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* files from your 
profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These files contain data stored 
by web sites and will be recreated during the next start. If you are unsure if 
the information is needed please back up the files before deleting them. The 
problem is tracked in bug 1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. 
This problem is been reported frequently when trying to manage passwords. But 
the problem will generally happen just after you open the Data Manager, 
because this component is also used for managing cookies, site preferences 
permissions and other settings.


<<

Might well be that a site tries to save to local storage or request a password 
which probbaly will fail then too.


FRG
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Re: Seamonkey not responding

[Cheryl]

Yes I also get the "Script has stopped responding and do I want to 
Continue or Stop the Script", and I know at that point I need to back 
out of the site if I can. This also happens to me if I go into Password 
Manager under Tools menu.


Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Cheryl wrote:
This happens to me several times a day.  I mainly have to stick to 
sites such as Amazon and google.  Any sites that have scripts cause 
me an issue and I have to hurry and back out of them.  I've been 
doing this for a long while . I was hoping the beta version would 
help but still doing the same thing.
I have both chrome and Seamonkey open so I can copy/paste certain 
websites from Seamonkey to Chrome so I can go read them.  Even Gyazo 
causes Seamonkey to hang.


That means this was already happening when you were on 2.49.x?
What add-ons do you have?
You might also want to experiment with a new profile.

I have had somewhat similar experiences with a few sites, eventually 
(up to 2 mins later) they come back to me saying that a script has 
stopped responding and do I want to Continue or Stop the script.  
There is also the option to make that choice permanent (don't even ask 
next time) but I refuse to take that option.




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Re: Seamonkey not responding

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Cheryl wrote:
This happens to me several times a day.  I mainly have to stick to sites 
such as Amazon and google.  Any sites that have scripts cause me an 
issue and I have to hurry and back out of them.  I've been doing this 
for a long while .  I was hoping the beta version would help but still 
doing the same thing.
I have both chrome and Seamonkey open so I can copy/paste certain 
websites from Seamonkey to Chrome so I can go read them.  Even Gyazo 
causes Seamonkey to hang.


That means this was already happening when you were on 2.49.x?
What add-ons do you have?
You might also want to experiment with a new profile.

I have had somewhat similar experiences with a few sites, eventually (up 
to 2 mins later) they come back to me saying that a script has stopped 
responding and do I want to Continue or Stop the script.  There is also 
the option to make that choice permanent (don't even ask next time) but 
I refuse to take that option.


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