Disable mouse hover popups

[AK]

Is there a way to disable those annoying popups whenever your mouse hovers over 
certain areas?

Andy
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Re: Banking sites do not display entire page

[AK]

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 4:30:44 PM UTC-5, Lemuel Johnson wrote:
> On 6/27/2020 3:33 PM, AK wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 2:38:13 PM UTC-5, David E. Ross wrote:
> >> On 6/27/2020 9:59 AM, AK wrote:
> >>> On 2 different banking sites, the whole page is not displayed using 
> >>> Seamonkey.
> >>>
> >>> Same with Firefox.
> >>>
> >>> I have some screenshots as you can only see it after logging in.
> >>>
> >>> I have to hit F11 to see everything.
> >>>
> >>> Is that common?
> >>>
> >>> Is it fixable?
> >>>
> >>> Andy
> >>>
> >>
> >> One of my credit unions (I belong to two) has a navigation bar along the
> >> left edge of every page.  The Logoff link is at the bottom.  The
> >> navigation bar is NOT scrollable.  I cannot see the Logoff link even if
> >> I maximize the SeaMonkey winodw.  Thus, to log off, I must use F11.
> >> Even then, I have to collapse any of the navigation items I have expanded.
> >>
> >> Also, I have to enable third-party cookies to see my monthly statements.
> >>
> >> I call this design "user hostile".
> >>
> >> -- 
> >> David E. Ross
> >> 
> >>
> >> Trump claims he is the "law and order" President.  Then, he
> >> breaks the law by using copyrighted music at his rallies
> >> without permission from the copyright owners.
> > 
> > I tried the 2 sites using Chrome and they both work fine.
> > 
> > But I do not care for Chrome.
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> 
> Both sites look the same here in Chrome and SeaMonkey, nothing seems to 
> be missing.

I found the problem.

My bookmark had 

https://jscfcu.cbzsecure.com/

But the whole page shows when I use

https://www.jscfcu.org

Thanks,
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Re: Banking sites do not display entire page

[Lemuel Johnson via support-seamonkey]

On 6/27/2020 3:33 PM, AK wrote:

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 2:38:13 PM UTC-5, David E. Ross wrote:

On 6/27/2020 9:59 AM, AK wrote:

On 2 different banking sites, the whole page is not displayed using Seamonkey.

Same with Firefox.

I have some screenshots as you can only see it after logging in.

I have to hit F11 to see everything.

Is that common?

Is it fixable?

Andy



One of my credit unions (I belong to two) has a navigation bar along the
left edge of every page.  The Logoff link is at the bottom.  The
navigation bar is NOT scrollable.  I cannot see the Logoff link even if
I maximize the SeaMonkey winodw.  Thus, to log off, I must use F11.
Even then, I have to collapse any of the navigation items I have expanded.

Also, I have to enable third-party cookies to see my monthly statements.

I call this design "user hostile".

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Trump claims he is the "law and order" President.  Then, he
breaks the law by using copyrighted music at his rallies
without permission from the copyright owners.


I tried the 2 sites using Chrome and they both work fine.

But I do not care for Chrome.

Andy



Both sites look the same here in Chrome and SeaMonkey, nothing seems to 
be missing.
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.2

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Re: Banking sites do not display entire page

[AK]

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 2:38:13 PM UTC-5, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 6/27/2020 9:59 AM, AK wrote:
> > On 2 different banking sites, the whole page is not displayed using 
> > Seamonkey.
> > 
> > Same with Firefox.
> > 
> > I have some screenshots as you can only see it after logging in.
> > 
> > I have to hit F11 to see everything.
> > 
> > Is that common?
> > 
> > Is it fixable?
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> 
> One of my credit unions (I belong to two) has a navigation bar along the
> left edge of every page.  The Logoff link is at the bottom.  The
> navigation bar is NOT scrollable.  I cannot see the Logoff link even if
> I maximize the SeaMonkey winodw.  Thus, to log off, I must use F11.
> Even then, I have to collapse any of the navigation items I have expanded.
> 
> Also, I have to enable third-party cookies to see my monthly statements.
> 
> I call this design "user hostile".
> 
> -- 
> David E. Ross
> 
> 
> Trump claims he is the "law and order" President.  Then, he
> breaks the law by using copyrighted music at his rallies
> without permission from the copyright owners.

I tried the 2 sites using Chrome and they both work fine.

But I do not care for Chrome.

Andy
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Re: Banking sites do not display entire page

[AK]

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 12:41:20 PM UTC-5, NFN Smith wrote:
> AK wrote:
> > On 2 different banking sites, the whole page is not displayed using 
> > Seamonkey.
> > 
> > Same with Firefox.
> > 
> > I have some screenshots as you can only see it after logging in.
> > 
> > I have to hit F11 to see everything.
> > 
> > Is that common?
> > 
> > Is it fixable?
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> 
> What sites?

https://www.jscfcu.org/

https://www.beaconfed.org/
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

[WaltS48]

On 6/27/20 3:50 PM, Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

anyone that got the update over the update channel already? I checked for
updates today and still did not get them. I have 2.53.1 and I'm on the release
update channel.

Best regards,

Erik




Hope this explains the problem for you.

Release Notes 

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

[Erik Rull]

Hi all,

anyone that got the update over the update channel already? I checked for
updates today and still did not get them. I have 2.53.1 and I'm on the release
update channel.

Best regards,

Erik



Edmund Wong wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.53.2.
> 
> So please check out [1] or [2].
> 
> Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
> am working on it.
> 
> 
> Edmund
> 
> Links:
> [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2
> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/
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Re: Banking sites do not display entire page

[David E. Ross]

On 6/27/2020 9:59 AM, AK wrote:
> On 2 different banking sites, the whole page is not displayed using Seamonkey.
> 
> Same with Firefox.
> 
> I have some screenshots as you can only see it after logging in.
> 
> I have to hit F11 to see everything.
> 
> Is that common?
> 
> Is it fixable?
> 
> Andy
> 

One of my credit unions (I belong to two) has a navigation bar along the
left edge of every page.  The Logoff link is at the bottom.  The
navigation bar is NOT scrollable.  I cannot see the Logoff link even if
I maximize the SeaMonkey winodw.  Thus, to log off, I must use F11.
Even then, I have to collapse any of the navigation items I have expanded.

Also, I have to enable third-party cookies to see my monthly statements.

I call this design "user hostile".

-- 
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Trump claims he is the "law and order" President.  Then, he
breaks the law by using copyrighted music at his rallies
without permission from the copyright owners.
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Win 10 update and 2.53.2 stability?

[theget]

I just updated Win 10 to whatever MS says is the latest and greatest and 
Seamonkey appears to be a little unstable with that.

Not clear to me if it's a particular page I was on or something else and I 
closed most windows to be able to post here so I'm not sure I can duplicate it.

Anyone else seeing anything like that?
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Re: Prime video does not support Seamonkey

[AK]

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 1:48:15 PM UTC-5, EE wrote:
> AK wrote:
> > I would like to play movies from Prime video, but it says it does not 
> > support Seamonkey.
> > 
> > That's surprising since Seamonkey is very close to the same as Firefox.
> > 
> > Is there a workaround?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> >  Andy
> > 
> Try using a fake user-agent.  You could use an extension like user-agent 
> switcher or set an override in about:config.

I can not find a version for Linux.

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Seamonkey 2.53.1 and others eat my laoptop battery

[Erik Rull]

Hi all,

after some days of runtime, seamonkey starts eating my laptop battery by
constantly consuming CPU time - 55 to 75% even if I close all active tabs!
I tried to chase this with about:performance but this then complains, that
about:performance is the culprit - and when closing it, CPU load does not 
decrease.

I have this trouble since more than 10 years, some responses told me that the
IMAP might be one of problems, but there was never a proof of that.

Is there any way to track this issue? Restarting seamonkey always helps - but
this is not the nice way of solving it. Sometimes seamonkey crashes after a
certain runtime and this higher CPU load which resolves indirectly the problem.
Can I somehow trace threads etc. for their CPU load?

I encoutered the problems on Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 as well on
kubuntu 18.04.

Best regards,

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Re: Prime video does not support Seamonkey

[EE]

AK wrote:

I would like to play movies from Prime video, but it says it does not support 
Seamonkey.

That's surprising since Seamonkey is very close to the same as Firefox.

Is there a workaround?

Thanks,
 Andy

Try using a fake user-agent.  You could use an extension like user-agent 
switcher or set an override in about:config.


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Re: Banking sites do not display entire page

[NFN Smith]

AK wrote:

On 2 different banking sites, the whole page is not displayed using Seamonkey.

Same with Firefox.

I have some screenshots as you can only see it after logging in.

I have to hit F11 to see everything.

Is that common?

Is it fixable?

Andy



What sites?

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Banking sites do not display entire page

[AK]

On 2 different banking sites, the whole page is not displayed using Seamonkey.

Same with Firefox.

I have some screenshots as you can only see it after logging in.

I have to hit F11 to see everything.

Is that common?

Is it fixable?

Andy

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Re: Prime video does not support Seamonkey

[AK]

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 10:56:29 AM UTC-5, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> It uses EME and digital restriction management. Will not work with most third 
> party browsers and in some cases barly or not at all on none Windows systems.
> 
> FRG
> 
> 
> WaltS48 wrote:
> > On 6/27/20 10:48 AM, AK wrote:
> >> I would like to play movies from Prime video, but it says it does not 
> >> support Seamonkey.
> >>
> >> That's surprising since Seamonkey is very close to the same as Firefox.
> >>
> >> Is there a workaround?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >>  Andy
> >>
> > 
> > SeaMonkey is based on a Firefox build that Prime probably doesn't support.
> > 
> > I don't have a Prime account and don't get a message that it doesn't 
> > support 
> > SeaMonkey on the "Start your 30-day free trial" page.
> >

So is the EME and digital restriction management protection against copying of 
digital content?

Andy
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Re: Prime video does not support Seamonkey

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

It uses EME and digital restriction management. Will not work with most third 
party browsers and in some cases barly or not at all on none Windows systems.


FRG


WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/20 10:48 AM, AK wrote:
I would like to play movies from Prime video, but it says it does not 
support Seamonkey.


That's surprising since Seamonkey is very close to the same as Firefox.

Is there a workaround?

Thanks,
 Andy



SeaMonkey is based on a Firefox build that Prime probably doesn't support.

I don't have a Prime account and don't get a message that it doesn't support 
SeaMonkey on the "Start your 30-day free trial" page.



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Re: Prime video does not support Seamonkey

[WaltS48]

On 6/27/20 10:48 AM, AK wrote:

I would like to play movies from Prime video, but it says it does not support 
Seamonkey.

That's surprising since Seamonkey is very close to the same as Firefox.

Is there a workaround?

Thanks,
 Andy



SeaMonkey is based on a Firefox build that Prime probably doesn't support.

I don't have a Prime account and don't get a message that it doesn't 
support SeaMonkey on the "Start your 30-day free trial" page.


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Prime video does not support Seamonkey

[AK]

I would like to play movies from Prime video, but it says it does not support 
Seamonkey.

That's surprising since Seamonkey is very close to the same as Firefox.

Is there a workaround?

Thanks,
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Re: change the font size in tabs

[AK]

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 7:20:22 AM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 6/27/20 2:46 AM, AK wrote:
> > On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 11:12:44 AM UTC-5, Lee wrote:
> >> On 6/25/20, AK  wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 7:46:02 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:
>  AK wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 5:45:21 PM UTC-5, Lee wrote:
> >> On 6/25/20, AK  wrote:
> >>> On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 2:54:13 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:
>  On 6/25/20 3:47 PM, AK wrote:
> > I want to change the font size in tabs.
> >
> > Is it something to be put in userchrome.css?
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> 
>  Isn't that in the userChrome-example.css file found in the profile
>  folder?
> 
>  /*
>  * Some possible accessibility enhancements:
>  */
>  /*
>  * Make all the default font sizes 20 pt:
>  *
>  * * {
>  *   font-size: 20pt !important
>  * }
>  */
>  /*
>  * Make menu items in particular 15 pt instead of the default
>  size:
>  *
>  * menupopup > * {
>  *   font-size: 15pt !important
>  * }
>  */
> >>>
> >>> I did not state my desire completely.
> >>>
> >>> This should help.
> >>>
> >>> https://imgur.com/a/1cTCLrG
> >>
> >> maybe this
> >> .tabbrowser-tab {min-width: 3em !important}
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > It did not help.
> >
> > Just so I am clear, I am looking to reduce the width of tabs.
> >
> > As of now, I can not have more than 5 tabs open.
> >
> > Firefox can have more tabs open.
> >
> 
>  Well, maybe you need to tell us what version of SeaMonkey you are using
>  and on what operating system.
> 
>  Right now I have 12 tabs open and if I add another the overflow < >
>  appear at each end of the tab bar.
> 
>  Added a few more and now have 25 and can keep going.
> 
>  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0
>  SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> SeaMonkey 2.53.2
> >>>
> >>> Ubuntu Mate 18.04
> >>
> >> If you want the tabs to _start out_ smaller, in  about:config
> >>browser.tabs.tabMaxWidth
> >> is the initial size of a tab.
> >> Note that it doesn't take effect until rstarting SeaMonkey.
> >>
> >> I didn't mess with browser.tabs.tabClipWidth or
> >> browser.tabs.tabMinWidth because I'm happy with my userchrome.css
> >> .tabbrowser-tab {min-width: 3em !important}
> >>
> > As of now, I can not have more than 5 tabs open.
> >>
> >> What happens when you have 5 tabs open and try to open another tab?
> >>
> >> Have you tried a new profile?
> >>
> >> Lee
> > 
> > Thanks so much.
> > 
> > browser.tabs.tabMaxWidth = 150 gave me room for 9 tabs.
> > 
> > Andy
> > 
> 
> Why only nine?
> 
> I had 32 before I stopped adding tabs.
> 
> You don't want to use the overflow arrows on the ends of the tab bar?
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But I never use more than 4 or 5 tabs.

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Re: change the font size in tabs

[WaltS48]

On 6/27/20 2:46 AM, AK wrote:

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 11:12:44 AM UTC-5, Lee wrote:

On 6/25/20, AK  wrote:

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 7:46:02 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:

AK wrote:

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 5:45:21 PM UTC-5, Lee wrote:

On 6/25/20, AK  wrote:

On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 2:54:13 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/25/20 3:47 PM, AK wrote:

I want to change the font size in tabs.

Is it something to be put in userchrome.css?

Thanks.



Isn't that in the userChrome-example.css file found in the profile
folder?

/*
* Some possible accessibility enhancements:
*/
/*
* Make all the default font sizes 20 pt:
*
* * {
*   font-size: 20pt !important
* }
*/
/*
* Make menu items in particular 15 pt instead of the default
size:
*
* menupopup > * {
*   font-size: 15pt !important
* }
*/


I did not state my desire completely.

This should help.

https://imgur.com/a/1cTCLrG


maybe this
.tabbrowser-tab {min-width: 3em !important}


Thanks.

It did not help.

Just so I am clear, I am looking to reduce the width of tabs.

As of now, I can not have more than 5 tabs open.

Firefox can have more tabs open.



Well, maybe you need to tell us what version of SeaMonkey you are using
and on what operating system.

Right now I have 12 tabs open and if I add another the overflow < >
appear at each end of the tab bar.

Added a few more and now have 25 and can keep going.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0
SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS.


Thanks.

SeaMonkey 2.53.2

Ubuntu Mate 18.04


If you want the tabs to _start out_ smaller, in  about:config
   browser.tabs.tabMaxWidth
is the initial size of a tab.
Note that it doesn't take effect until rstarting SeaMonkey.

I didn't mess with browser.tabs.tabClipWidth or
browser.tabs.tabMinWidth because I'm happy with my userchrome.css
.tabbrowser-tab {min-width: 3em !important}


As of now, I can not have more than 5 tabs open.


What happens when you have 5 tabs open and try to open another tab?

Have you tried a new profile?

Lee


Thanks so much.

browser.tabs.tabMaxWidth = 150 gave me room for 9 tabs.

Andy



Why only nine?

I had 32 before I stopped adding tabs.

You don't want to use the overflow arrows on the ends of the tab bar?

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Re: Is anybody else still using Win 7 here?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Daniel wrote:
Last Monday (so Sunday Evening USA time) when I checked my Windows Update 
portal, it showed there was an 80.6MB update waiting to be installed.


(Note: Last Monday, so not the normal Windows7 update, which, if there is one, 
I usually get on a Wednesday Afternoon (so Tuesday Evening USA time))


Virtually daily since, I've been having to re-boot my Win7 so it can complete 
the installation  but time after time after time, the update fails, so the 
system reverts to the previously installed system  until next cold boot!!


Is anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Can I, somehow, delete the Windows 
Update from the Control Panel screen  and hope things get fixed up/picked 
up next Update Tuesday??


Any other suggestions  APART FROM UPDATING TO WIN10??


What is the kb number of the update? Microsoft rolled out Chromium Edge to 7 
and 8.1 too last week. Didn't do it on 7 because would be only for less than a 
year. They plan to discontinue it on 7 in June 2021 and extended updates still 
run till 2023. So no point installing i.


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Is anybody else still using Win 7 here?

[Daniel]

Last Monday (so Sunday Evening USA time) when I checked my Windows 
Update portal, it showed there was an 80.6MB update waiting to be installed.


(Note: Last Monday, so not the normal Windows7 update, which, if there 
is one, I usually get on a Wednesday Afternoon (so Tuesday Evening USA 
time))


Virtually daily since, I've been having to re-boot my Win7 so it can 
complete the installation  but time after time after time, the 
update fails, so the system reverts to the previously installed system 
 until next cold boot!!


Is anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Can I, somehow, delete the 
Windows Update from the Control Panel screen  and hope things get 
fixed up/picked up next Update Tuesday??


Any other suggestions  APART FROM UPDATING TO WIN10??
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Re: change the font size in tabs

[AK]

On Friday, June 26, 2020 at 11:12:44 AM UTC-5, Lee wrote:
> On 6/25/20, AK  wrote:
> > On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 7:46:02 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:
> >> AK wrote:
> >> > On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 5:45:21 PM UTC-5, Lee wrote:
> >> >> On 6/25/20, AK  wrote:
> >> >>> On Thursday, June 25, 2020 at 2:54:13 PM UTC-5, WaltS48 wrote:
> >>  On 6/25/20 3:47 PM, AK wrote:
> >> > I want to change the font size in tabs.
> >> >
> >> > Is it something to be put in userchrome.css?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> 
> >>  Isn't that in the userChrome-example.css file found in the profile
> >>  folder?
> >> 
> >>  /*
> >> * Some possible accessibility enhancements:
> >> */
> >>  /*
> >> * Make all the default font sizes 20 pt:
> >> *
> >> * * {
> >> *   font-size: 20pt !important
> >> * }
> >> */
> >>  /*
> >> * Make menu items in particular 15 pt instead of the default
> >>  size:
> >> *
> >> * menupopup > * {
> >> *   font-size: 15pt !important
> >> * }
> >> */
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I did not state my desire completely.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> This should help.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> https://imgur.com/a/1cTCLrG
> >> >>
> >> >> maybe this
> >> >> .tabbrowser-tab {min-width: 3em !important}
> >> >
> >> > Thanks.
> >> >
> >> > It did not help.
> >> >
> >> > Just so I am clear, I am looking to reduce the width of tabs.
> >> >
> >> > As of now, I can not have more than 5 tabs open.
> >> >
> >> > Firefox can have more tabs open.
> >> >
> >>
> >> Well, maybe you need to tell us what version of SeaMonkey you are using
> >> and on what operating system.
> >>
> >> Right now I have 12 tabs open and if I add another the overflow < >
> >> appear at each end of the tab bar.
> >>
> >> Added a few more and now have 25 and can keep going.
> >>
> >> Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0
> >> SeaMonkey/2.53.2 Ubuntu 18.04.4 LTS.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > SeaMonkey 2.53.2
> >
> > Ubuntu Mate 18.04
> 
> If you want the tabs to _start out_ smaller, in  about:config
>   browser.tabs.tabMaxWidth
> is the initial size of a tab.
> Note that it doesn't take effect until rstarting SeaMonkey.
> 
> I didn't mess with browser.tabs.tabClipWidth or
> browser.tabs.tabMinWidth because I'm happy with my userchrome.css
> .tabbrowser-tab {min-width: 3em !important}
> 
> >> > As of now, I can not have more than 5 tabs open.
> 
> What happens when you have 5 tabs open and try to open another tab?
> 
> Have you tried a new profile?
> 
> Lee

Thanks so much.

browser.tabs.tabMaxWidth = 150 gave me room for 9 tabs.

Andy
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