'Import' Function in SM v.2.53.2

[Henrik37 via support-seamonkey]

Is there a good tutorial on how SM v.2.53.2 'import' function works?

I.e., what form must files be in to be imported?  Must the import be 
from a complete installation of the source browser? Where must the items 
to be imported be located - same PC, DVD, flash drive, or where?  What 
does the 'Import All' include?


Many thanks, in advance, for any and assistance.
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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.1 and others eat my laoptop battery

[WaltS48]

On 6/28/20 5:45 PM, Erik Rull wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/20 3:02 PM, Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

I encoutered the problems on Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 as well on
kubuntu 18.04.

Best regards,

Erik



"After some days of running" suggests that you leave the computer on 24/7/52 and
SeaMonkey open.

You are probably experiencing memory leaks from extensions you have installed,
need to track down which extension(s), contact the developer(s) and report the
leaks.

Why not just close SeaMonkey and put the laptop in Sleep mode when not in use.



Yes I do. Just close the lid of the laptop and it goes to sleep. Why manually
closing applications before that? All others survive...
You mean just disable plugin by plugin once the higher load appears?
I'll give it a try next time and let you know.

Best regards,

Erik



Maybe all others don't have extensions and my understanding is a 
computer only has RAM active when in sleep mode.


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Re: Disable mouse hover popups

[David E. Ross]

On 6/27/2020 8:03 PM, AK wrote:
> Is there a way to disable those annoying popups whenever your mouse hovers 
> over certain areas?
> 
> Andy
> 

There are three distinct tooltips that I frequently encounter.  Each
requires a different way to disable it.

For tooltips on tabs:

1.  Enter  in the Address Bar.

2.  If you get a warning popup, dismiss it.

3.  Enter browser.tabs.tooltippreview.enable in the search area.

4.  Select the line for browser.tabs.tooltippreview.enable.

5.  Right-click and select Toggle.

For tooltips on the display of Web pages:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preference window under Category, select
Appearance.

3.  On the Appearance pane, clear the checkmark in the checkbox for Show
Tooltips.  (To clear it, merely click on the checkbox.)

4.  Select the OK button.

HOWEVER, I do NOT recommend disabling tooltips on the display of Web
pages.  For links to other Web pages, they often give more detail about
the linked page before you select it.  For images, they often describe
the image.  I use them on my Web pages to indicate my copyright notices
for images I created; I also use them to warn users that selecting a
link on one of my Web pages will open a new tab or browser window
without leaving the current page.

BEFORE viewing Web pages at Wikipedia:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preference window under Category, select
[Advanced > Scripts & Plugins].

3.  On the Scripts & Plugins pane, clear the checkmark in the checkbox
for Browser directly under "Enable JavaScript for".

4.  Select the OK button.

NOTE:  Remember to restore the checkmark when you are through with
Wikipedia.  Other Web sites might not display correctly if JavaScript
remains disabled.  Also, this does not work on the current Wikipedia
page if you do it after you have loaded that page; if you leave that
page and then return to it, however, this should work.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.1 and others eat my laoptop battery

[Erik Rull]

WaltS48 wrote:
> On 6/27/20 3:02 PM, Erik Rull wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I encoutered the problems on Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 as well on
>> kubuntu 18.04.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> Erik
>>
> 
> "After some days of running" suggests that you leave the computer on 24/7/52 
> and
> SeaMonkey open.
> 
> You are probably experiencing memory leaks from extensions you have installed,
> need to track down which extension(s), contact the developer(s) and report the
> leaks.
> 
> Why not just close SeaMonkey and put the laptop in Sleep mode when not in use.
> 

Yes I do. Just close the lid of the laptop and it goes to sleep. Why manually
closing applications before that? All others survive...
You mean just disable plugin by plugin once the higher load appears?
I'll give it a try next time and let you know.

Best regards,

Erik
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

[Ant]

On 6/28/2020 1:21 PM, EE wrote:
...
I get my new versions from the SeaMonkey download & release site and 
install manually.  I prefer to do it that way anyhow.


I still like the tiny updates to upgrade. :/
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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.1 and others eat my laoptop battery

[Ant]

Ah, I have seen that happen in mine too. Yeah, it's annoying. :(


On 6/28/2020 8:34 AM, Erik Rull wrote:

Hi,

no, it is not.
When seamonkey starts consuming CPU, I can also close all tabs beside
about:performance and the load stays! Some years ago some hint that it could be
the IMAP logics running in the background but there was never a prove for that.

I encounter this problem now for years, why should 2.53.2 fix it?
I will try it out, but I fear the issue still remains.

Best regards,

Erik



Ant wrote:

Erik, are they reproducable by specific web sites? I know YouTube, Facebook,
LinkedIn, Twitter, etc. can do this for me on my decade old 64-bit W7 HPE SP1
PC. :( ALso, why are you not using v2.53.2 (.3 is coming out very soon)?


On 6/27/2020 12:02 PM, Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

after some days of runtime, seamonkey starts eating my laptop battery by
constantly consuming CPU time - 55 to 75% even if I close all active tabs!
I tried to chase this with about:performance but this then complains, that
about:performance is the culprit - and when closing it, CPU load does not
decrease.

I have this trouble since more than 10 years, some responses told me that the
IMAP might be one of problems, but there was never a proof of that.

Is there any way to track this issue? Restarting seamonkey always helps - but
this is not the nice way of solving it. Sometimes seamonkey crashes after a
certain runtime and this higher CPU load which resolves indirectly the problem.
Can I somehow trace threads etc. for their CPU load?

I encoutered the problems on Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 as well on
kubuntu 18.04.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

[EE]

Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

anyone that got the update over the update channel already? I checked for
updates today and still did not get them. I have 2.53.1 and I'm on the release
update channel.

Best regards,

Erik



Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.2.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.  I
am working on it.


Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.2
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.2/
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I get my new versions from the SeaMonkey download & release site and 
install manually.  I prefer to do it that way anyhow.


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Re: Prime video does not support Seamonkey

[EE]

AK wrote:

On Saturday, June 27, 2020 at 1:48:15 PM UTC-5, EE wrote:

AK wrote:

I would like to play movies from Prime video, but it says it does not support 
Seamonkey.

That's surprising since Seamonkey is very close to the same as Firefox.

Is there a workaround?

Thanks,
  Andy


Try using a fake user-agent.  You could use an extension like user-agent
switcher or set an override in about:config.


I can not find a version for Linux.

Most extensions work with any platform.  Certainly User Agent Switcher 
works with any platform, but you probably have to edit install.rdf in 
the .xpi file to increase the max version for SeaMonkey.


As for the override, you can set that in about:config like this:
general.useragent.override.youtube.com - set to - Mozilla/5.0 (X11; 
Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0


Just change the hostname and the version of Firefox to suit.
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Re: Disable mouse hover popups

[EE]

AK wrote:

Is there a way to disable those annoying popups whenever your mouse hovers over 
certain areas?

Andy

Do you mean tooltips?  There are only a few settings for tooltips for 
specific elements, which you can find by searching for tooltip in 
about:config.  If you want them gone totally, I think you have to 
configure the operating system to disable them.


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Re: Is anybody else still using Win 7 here?

[Nobody via support-seamonkey]

Daniel wrote:


Thank you for the link, Don.

Anybody got advice on how to "Remove" the update?? I've de-selected
it, so hopefully, in the meantime, that will stop it repetitively
trying to install itself!


Just right-click on the update in the list and choose "Hide update." 
Deselecting it keeps WU from installing it, but it doesn't stop it from 
offering it.


FWIW, this "update" installs Edge from scratch -- you don't have to 
already have Edge installed, so it's not really an "update." You should 
also be aware that Edge is set up to update itself automatically, and 
it's really hard (maybe impossible) to set it to update only manually.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.1 and others eat my laoptop battery

[WaltS48]

On 6/27/20 3:02 PM, Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

after some days of runtime, seamonkey starts eating my laptop battery by
constantly consuming CPU time - 55 to 75% even if I close all active tabs!
I tried to chase this with about:performance but this then complains, that
about:performance is the culprit - and when closing it, CPU load does not 
decrease.

I have this trouble since more than 10 years, some responses told me that the
IMAP might be one of problems, but there was never a proof of that.

Is there any way to track this issue? Restarting seamonkey always helps - but
this is not the nice way of solving it. Sometimes seamonkey crashes after a
certain runtime and this higher CPU load which resolves indirectly the problem.
Can I somehow trace threads etc. for their CPU load?

I encoutered the problems on Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 as well on
kubuntu 18.04.

Best regards,

Erik



"After some days of running" suggests that you leave the computer on 
24/7/52 and SeaMonkey open.


You are probably experiencing memory leaks from extensions you have 
installed, need to track down which extension(s), contact the 
developer(s) and report the leaks.


Why not just close SeaMonkey and put the laptop in Sleep mode when not 
in use.


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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.1 and others eat my laoptop battery

[Erik Rull]

Hi,

no, it is not.
When seamonkey starts consuming CPU, I can also close all tabs beside
about:performance and the load stays! Some years ago some hint that it could be
the IMAP logics running in the background but there was never a prove for that.

I encounter this problem now for years, why should 2.53.2 fix it?
I will try it out, but I fear the issue still remains.

Best regards,

Erik



Ant wrote:
> Erik, are they reproducable by specific web sites? I know YouTube, Facebook,
> LinkedIn, Twitter, etc. can do this for me on my decade old 64-bit W7 HPE SP1
> PC. :( ALso, why are you not using v2.53.2 (.3 is coming out very soon)?
> 
> 
> On 6/27/2020 12:02 PM, Erik Rull wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> after some days of runtime, seamonkey starts eating my laptop battery by
>> constantly consuming CPU time - 55 to 75% even if I close all active tabs!
>> I tried to chase this with about:performance but this then complains, that
>> about:performance is the culprit - and when closing it, CPU load does not
>> decrease.
>>
>> I have this trouble since more than 10 years, some responses told me that the
>> IMAP might be one of problems, but there was never a proof of that.
>>
>> Is there any way to track this issue? Restarting seamonkey always helps - but
>> this is not the nice way of solving it. Sometimes seamonkey crashes after a
>> certain runtime and this higher CPU load which resolves indirectly the 
>> problem.
>> Can I somehow trace threads etc. for their CPU load?
>>
>> I encoutered the problems on Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 as well on
>> kubuntu 18.04.
> ...
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Re: Is anybody else still using Win 7 here?

[Ant]

On 6/27/2020 5:03 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
...
What is the kb number of the update? Microsoft rolled out Chromium Edge 
to 7 and 8.1 too last week. Didn't do it on 7 because would be only for 
less than a year. They plan to discontinue it on 7 in June 2021 and 
extended updates still run till 2023. So no point installing i.


My Edge was under WU's optional update. I don't use its automatic 
updates since I don't trust MS. I do this for all softwares. I'm in 
control, not them.

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Re: Banking sites do not display entire page

[Ant]

On 6/27/2020 2:54 PM, AK wrote:
...

I found the problem.

My bookmark had

https://jscfcu.cbzsecure.com/


Is cbzsecure.com even legit? I hope it's not fake to steal your personal 
datas!




But the whole page shows when I use

https://www.jscfcu.org

...
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Re: Seamonkey 2.53.1 and others eat my laoptop battery

[Ant]

Erik, are they reproducable by specific web sites? I know YouTube, 
Facebook, LinkedIn, Twitter, etc. can do this for me on my decade old 
64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. :( ALso, why are you not using v2.53.2 (.3 is 
coming out very soon)?



On 6/27/2020 12:02 PM, Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

after some days of runtime, seamonkey starts eating my laptop battery by
constantly consuming CPU time - 55 to 75% even if I close all active tabs!
I tried to chase this with about:performance but this then complains, that
about:performance is the culprit - and when closing it, CPU load does not 
decrease.

I have this trouble since more than 10 years, some responses told me that the
IMAP might be one of problems, but there was never a proof of that.

Is there any way to track this issue? Restarting seamonkey always helps - but
this is not the nice way of solving it. Sometimes seamonkey crashes after a
certain runtime and this higher CPU load which resolves indirectly the problem.
Can I somehow trace threads etc. for their CPU load?

I encoutered the problems on Windows XP, Windows 7 and Windows 10 as well on
kubuntu 18.04.

...
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 released!

[Ant]

On 6/27/2020 1:08 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 6/27/20 3:50 PM, Erik Rull wrote:

Hi all,

anyone that got the update over the update channel already? I checked for
updates today and still did not get them. I have 2.53.1 and I'm on the 
release

update channel.

Best regards,

Erik




Hope this explains the problem for you.

Release Notes 


Yeah, it had been like this for years. :( Hopefully, it will be fixed 
soon. :)

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Re: Is anybody else still using Win 7 here?

[Daniel]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 28/06/2020 9:02 PM:

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 27/06/2020 10:03 PM:

Daniel wrote:
Last Monday (so Sunday Evening USA time) when I checked my Windows 
Update portal, it showed there was an 80.6MB update waiting to be 
installed.


(Note: Last Monday, so not the normal Windows7 update, which, if 
there is one, I usually get on a Wednesday Afternoon (so Tuesday 
Evening USA time))


Virtually daily since, I've been having to re-boot my Win7 so it can 
complete the installation  but time after time after time, the 
update fails, so the system reverts to the previously installed 
system  until next cold boot!!


Is anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Can I, somehow, delete the 
Windows Update from the Control Panel screen  and hope things 
get fixed up/picked up next Update Tuesday??


Any other suggestions  APART FROM UPDATING TO WIN10??


What is the kb number of the update? Microsoft rolled out Chromium 
Edge to 7 and 8.1 too last week. Didn't do it on 7 because would be 
only for less than a year. They plan to discontinue it on 7 in June 
2021 and extended updates still run till 2023. So no point installing i.


FRG

Thanks, Frank-Rainer. The two updates are ...

Important (MS Edge) Update -KB4567409
Optional (2020-01 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Win7) -KB4539601

I'm being told there is 80.6MB update to install ... and the MS Edge 
(which I don't have installed) update is 80.6MB so it seems *THAT's* 
the update that is repeatedly failing!!


The Optional Update is *only* 314.4MB!!

I thought support for Win7 had been discontinued some time ago, anyway!


I fed that KB number into the search engine of my choice and voila!
https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-pushes-out-new-edge-to-windows-7-users/
If you don't want this and/or it is causing problems, I thought Windows 
7 allowed you to blacklist updates.  My Windows 7 update setting was 
something like "Notify but do not install".



Thank you for the link, Don.

Anybody got advice on how to "Remove" the update?? I've de-selected it, 
so hopefully, in the meantime, that will stop it repetitively trying to 
install itself!

--
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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
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Re: Is anybody else still using Win 7 here?

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 27/06/2020 10:03 PM:

Daniel wrote:
Last Monday (so Sunday Evening USA time) when I checked my Windows 
Update portal, it showed there was an 80.6MB update waiting to be 
installed.


(Note: Last Monday, so not the normal Windows7 update, which, if 
there is one, I usually get on a Wednesday Afternoon (so Tuesday 
Evening USA time))


Virtually daily since, I've been having to re-boot my Win7 so it can 
complete the installation  but time after time after time, the 
update fails, so the system reverts to the previously installed 
system  until next cold boot!!


Is anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Can I, somehow, delete the 
Windows Update from the Control Panel screen  and hope things get 
fixed up/picked up next Update Tuesday??


Any other suggestions  APART FROM UPDATING TO WIN10??


What is the kb number of the update? Microsoft rolled out Chromium 
Edge to 7 and 8.1 too last week. Didn't do it on 7 because would be 
only for less than a year. They plan to discontinue it on 7 in June 
2021 and extended updates still run till 2023. So no point installing i.


FRG

Thanks, Frank-Rainer. The two updates are ...

Important (MS Edge) Update -KB4567409
Optional (2020-01 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Win7) -KB4539601

I'm being told there is 80.6MB update to install ... and the MS Edge 
(which I don't have installed) update is 80.6MB so it seems *THAT's* the 
update that is repeatedly failing!!


The Optional Update is *only* 314.4MB!!

I thought support for Win7 had been discontinued some time ago, anyway!


I fed that KB number into the search engine of my choice and voila!
https://mspoweruser.com/microsoft-pushes-out-new-edge-to-windows-7-users/
If you don't want this and/or it is causing problems, I thought Windows 
7 allowed you to blacklist updates.  My Windows 7 update setting was 
something like "Notify but do not install".


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Re: changing to IMAP from POP3

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

David H. Durgee wrote:

I have been using POP3 with most of my email accounts since the
beginning.  For some time now I encounter occasional problems where
automated fetching of new email fails silently.  I only become aware of
the problem when I notice a lack of email and manually request new mail
and get the error messages.  Fixing the problem requires a restart of
SeaMonkey.

I have never seen a similar problem with the accounts using IMAP.  I can
access the accounts currently using POP3 via IMAP.  Can I simply change
my server settings for those accounts from POP3 to IMAP, or would this
cause problems?  IN case this makes a difference I am using 64 bit
2.53.2 on 64 bit linux mint 18.3 here.

Dave



I wanted to do the same several months ago and was told that it was not 
possible, that I needed to create an IMAP account.  My original post was 
on 21 Nov 2019 in my timezone, the header is "pop3 vs imap".


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Re: Is anybody else still using Win 7 here?

[Daniel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 27/06/2020 10:03 PM:

Daniel wrote:
Last Monday (so Sunday Evening USA time) when I checked my Windows 
Update portal, it showed there was an 80.6MB update waiting to be 
installed.


(Note: Last Monday, so not the normal Windows7 update, which, if there 
is one, I usually get on a Wednesday Afternoon (so Tuesday Evening USA 
time))


Virtually daily since, I've been having to re-boot my Win7 so it can 
complete the installation  but time after time after time, the 
update fails, so the system reverts to the previously installed system 
 until next cold boot!!


Is anyone else seeing this behaviour?? Can I, somehow, delete the 
Windows Update from the Control Panel screen  and hope things get 
fixed up/picked up next Update Tuesday??


Any other suggestions  APART FROM UPDATING TO WIN10??


What is the kb number of the update? Microsoft rolled out Chromium Edge 
to 7 and 8.1 too last week. Didn't do it on 7 because would be only for 
less than a year. They plan to discontinue it on 7 in June 2021 and 
extended updates still run till 2023. So no point installing i.


FRG

Thanks, Frank-Rainer. The two updates are ...

Important (MS Edge) Update -KB4567409
Optional (2020-01 Preview of Monthly Quality Rollup for Win7) -KB4539601

I'm being told there is 80.6MB update to install ... and the MS Edge 
(which I don't have installed) update is 80.6MB so it seems *THAT's* the 
update that is repeatedly failing!!


The Optional Update is *only* 314.4MB!!

I thought support for Win7 had been discontinued some time ago, anyway!
--
Daniel

Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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