Electrolysis with Seamonkey

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Hello

Is it possible to activate Electrolysis (e10s) with Seamonkey ?

I've played with some parameters and got 2 processes, but no way to get 
more.


browser.tabs.remote.autostart
dom.ipc.processCount
browser.preferences.defaultPerformanceSettings.enabled

Multiple processes are not blocked by an add-on, the result is the same 
with a new and empty profile.



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Re: Languages & Dictionaries

[RicklesP]

RicklesP wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

rick-shar wrote:
Just upgraded 2 Win10 laptops to SM 2.53.5 (thanks loads, devs!), in 
the UK. On my own laptop, I have the British English Dictionary 
(Marco Pinto) v2.68, which lists in the Add-On Mgr under the category 
'Dictionaries'.  On my wife's laptop, before the SM version update, 
she'd complained about only having the English (US) language 
available for spell-checking, which causes issues whenever composing 
emails for UK recipients.


On that laptop, I've added the latest Marco Pinto Dictionary v2.90 
from the Add-Ons site, but it only lists as an Extension, not a 
Dictionary, so can't be selected for spell-checking. 


That happens if you install a WebExtension-based dictionary in 
SeaMonkey, as mentioned under "Extensions (Add-ons) and Themes" in the 
release notes.  It seems even the ones hosted on 
addons.thunderbird.net may be WebExtensions now but don't work with 
SeaMonkey - see e.g. 
.


I'm currently using v2.68 of British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto). 
You can download older versions by following the "See complete version 
history" link near the bottom of 
. 
  There, 2.68 is explicitly mentioned as being a legacy extension, and 
there's mention of this 2.70 already being a WebExtension.  It's not 
clear which 2.69 is, so that might perhaps work, or it might be that 
2.68 is the last that works in current SeaMonkey.


If you right-click the "Download Now" button, you can select "Save 
Link Target As..." to download the .xpi file for the extension rather 
than immediately installing it.  That way you've got it in case you 
need to install it again in future.  From about:addons, you can 
install an extension from an .xpi file by clicking the cog icon near 
the top right and selecting "Install Add-on From File..."


On my own laptop, the v2.68 installed doesn't appear to have any 
means of updating as-is, but it is working as expected.


It might be that's the latest which actually works with SeaMonkey.  Or 
it may be related to the fact that update checks for the main 
application don't work.  As far as I can see, 2.69 is the only newer 
version which might possibly work - so you could try downloading and 
installing that as above, but be prepared to revert back to 2.68 if it 
doesn't work.



So it looks like I have 2 separate issues.  Any suggestions?



Mark, etc,
Now that I've had time to try, I've downloaded v2.68 and (?)successfully 
installed it into my wife's laptop.  It shows up in the Add-On Mgr 
screen as a loaded Dictionary, but is not available to select anywhere. 
Whether composing a new email or as the default language under 
Properties - Appearance - Spelling, the only entry in her SM v2.53.5 
install is for the default English-US.  And of course, the link for 'add 
more dictionaries' takes me to the Thunderbird add-ons download page, 
for what that's worth.


I really don't want to abandon SM, but if my English wife can't compose 
emails in her own language in the mail client, what's the point?  I've 
been a loyal Netscape/Mozilla/SM user for some time, but I'm not a 
developer.  My skill set is in system administration, not programming.




My thanks to all who replied with additional suggestions, but it has 
been sorted, finally.  Not only did the v2.68 install didn't work even 
after SM and then the laptop restarts, but attempting to use the 
'download more dictionaries' link didn't do anything--no web page, no 
nothing.  With no other changes, I installed v2.53.5.1 on top of the 
current setup, and the v2.68 English-UK dictionary is now listed as 
such, and is now set as the default.  Composition tests with spell check 
work as you'd expect, that way.
I have no idea what was corrupted, but the latest install did something 
and all is now well.


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Re: Languages & Dictionaries

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Mark Bourne wrote:
This seems to be resolved by removing the dictionary (even if it now 
shows as version 2.68), then installing version 2.68:

- Open Add-ons Manager
- Select "Dictionaries" on the left side
- Click "Remove" alongside British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto)
   (if it's not there, look under "Extensions" on the left side instead)


As in Nuno Silva's response, restart SeaMonkey at this point, before 
installing 2.68.


- Install British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto) version 2.68 (either 
by going to the add-ons page, or if you've already downloaded the .xpi 
file click the cog icon at the top and select "Install Add-on From File".


And restart SeaMonkey again after installing 2.68.

After doing that, I see an "English/United Kingdom" option in 
Preferences > Appearance > Spelling.


I did restart SeaMonkey at those points when trying this out, but forgot 
to include them in the steps above.  Apologies for the omission - it 
probably does make a difference!


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Re: Languages & Dictionaries

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-11-22, RicklesP wrote:

> Mark, etc,
> Now that I've had time to try, I've downloaded v2.68 and
> (?)successfully installed it into my wife's laptop.  It shows up in
> the Add-On Mgr screen as a loaded Dictionary, but is not available to
> select anywhere. Whether composing a new email or as the default
> language under Properties - Appearance - Spelling, the only entry in
> her SM v2.53.5 install is for the default English-US.  And of course,
> the link for 'add more dictionaries' takes me to the Thunderbird
> add-ons download page, for what that's worth.
>
> I really don't want to abandon SM, but if my English wife can't
> compose emails in her own language in the mail client, what's the
> point?  I've been a loyal Netscape/Mozilla/SM user for some time, but
> I'm not a developer.  My skill set is in system administration, not
> programming.

Could you please try the following?:
1. Remove the currently installed dictionary (even if it is 2.68)
2. Restart SeaMonkey
3. Install 2.68
4. Restart SeaMonkey

After this, check if it does show up in
Edit->Preferences->Appearance->Spelling.

In a quick test here (with a build of 2.53.6beta1pre), I was able to get
to the point where 2.68 is listed as installed but is not shown as a
spell-checking language option, if I install a webextension version of
the dictionary and then install 2.68 without restarting SeaMonkey first.

(In my testing (when I skipped step 2 above), 2.68 did (at least some
times?) show up as an option and would work until I restarted SeaMonkey,
so make sure you check that it is still working *after* restarting
SeaMonkey.)

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Re: Languages & Dictionaries

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rick-shar wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

rick-shar wrote:
Just upgraded 2 Win10 laptops to SM 2.53.5 (thanks loads, devs!), in 
the UK. On my own laptop, I have the British English Dictionary 
(Marco Pinto) v2.68, which lists in the Add-On Mgr under the category 
'Dictionaries'.  On my wife's laptop, before the SM version update, 
she'd complained about only having the English (US) language 
available for spell-checking, which causes issues whenever composing 
emails for UK recipients.


On that laptop, I've added the latest Marco Pinto Dictionary v2.90 
from the Add-Ons site, but it only lists as an Extension, not a 
Dictionary, so can't be selected for spell-checking. 


That happens if you install a WebExtension-based dictionary in 
SeaMonkey, as mentioned under "Extensions (Add-ons) and Themes" in the 
release notes.  It seems even the ones hosted on 
addons.thunderbird.net may be WebExtensions now but don't work with 
SeaMonkey - see e.g. 
.


I'm currently using v2.68 of British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto). 
You can download older versions by following the "See complete version 
history" link near the bottom of 
. 
  There, 2.68 is explicitly mentioned as being a legacy extension, and 
there's mention of this 2.70 already being a WebExtension.  It's not 
clear which 2.69 is, so that might perhaps work, or it might be that 
2.68 is the last that works in current SeaMonkey.


If you right-click the "Download Now" button, you can select "Save 
Link Target As..." to download the .xpi file for the extension rather 
than immediately installing it.  That way you've got it in case you 
need to install it again in future.  From about:addons, you can 
install an extension from an .xpi file by clicking the cog icon near 
the top right and selecting "Install Add-on From File..."


On my own laptop, the v2.68 installed doesn't appear to have any 
means of updating as-is, but it is working as expected.


It might be that's the latest which actually works with SeaMonkey.  Or 
it may be related to the fact that update checks for the main 
application don't work.  As far as I can see, 2.69 is the only newer 
version which might possibly work - so you could try downloading and 
installing that as above, but be prepared to revert back to 2.68 if it 
doesn't work.



So it looks like I have 2 separate issues.  Any suggestions?



Mark, etc,
Now that I've had time to try, I've downloaded v2.68 and (?)successfully 
installed it into my wife's laptop.  It shows up in the Add-On Mgr 
screen as a loaded Dictionary, but is not available to select anywhere. 
Whether composing a new email or as the default language under 
Properties - Appearance - Spelling, the only entry in her SM v2.53.5 
install is for the default English-US.  And of course, the link for 'add 
more dictionaries' takes me to the Thunderbird add-ons download page, 
for what that's worth.


I've just experimented a bit on a virtual machine.  I can reproduce what 
you're seeing if I install a newer version of the dictionary, then 
install 2.68 over the top without removing the older version.  2.68 then 
shows up under "Dictionaries" in the Add-ons Manager, but isn't 
available under Preferences > Appearance > Spelling.


This seems to be resolved by removing the dictionary (even if it now 
shows as version 2.68), then installing version 2.68:

- Open Add-ons Manager
- Select "Dictionaries" on the left side
- Click "Remove" alongside British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto)
  (if it's not there, look under "Extensions" on the left side instead)
- Install British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto) version 2.68 (either 
by going to the add-ons page, or if you've already downloaded the .xpi 
file click the cog icon at the top and select "Install Add-on From File".


After doing that, I see an "English/United Kingdom" option in 
Preferences > Appearance > Spelling.


If it still doesn't show up, a few things I can think of to check:
- Check that "British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto)" is showing up 
under "Dictionaries", not "Extensions", in the Add-ons Manager.
- Click "More" alongside the dictionary and check that it shows 2.68 in 
the heading.
- Make sure it's not disabled; if it is, click the "Enable" button next 
to the dictionary in add-ons manager.
- If you have multiple profiles, make sure it's installed in the profile 
you're trying to use it in; add-ons are installed separately for each 
profile.  If you've previously installed the newer version in other 
profiles, you'll probably have to remove and reinstall the older version 
in each profile.


SeaMonkey add-ons are hosted on Thunderbird's website, since Mozilla 
stopped hosting them, so it's normal that you'd be taken there. 
Unfortunately, it seems to offer the latest WebExtension dictionaries to 
SeaMonkey even though SeaMonkey doesn't 

Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:




Before Upgrade: 2.53.3 (at a guess, or maybe 2.53.2)
After Upgrade: 2.49.4
This was an upgrade of OpenSuse, "before" used their test repository, "after" 
did not.  What could possibly go wrong?




Something only the openSuse maintainers can answer. The official versions 
never did it. Wonder if the profile was really lost or just downleveled. 
Usually results in bookmarks restored from the latest backup and stored 
passwords no longer there among other things.


Well anyway should not happen with any future 2.53.x releases. 257 will be 
"fun" again but still not ready by a mile.


FRG
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Re: Languages & Dictionaries

[RicklesP]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

rick-shar wrote:
Just upgraded 2 Win10 laptops to SM 2.53.5 (thanks loads, devs!), in 
the UK. On my own laptop, I have the British English Dictionary (Marco 
Pinto) v2.68, which lists in the Add-On Mgr under the category 
'Dictionaries'.  On my wife's laptop, before the SM version update, 
she'd complained about only having the English (US) language available 
for spell-checking, which causes issues whenever composing emails for 
UK recipients.


On that laptop, I've added the latest Marco Pinto Dictionary v2.90 
from the Add-Ons site, but it only lists as an Extension, not a 
Dictionary, so can't be selected for spell-checking. 


That happens if you install a WebExtension-based dictionary in 
SeaMonkey, as mentioned under "Extensions (Add-ons) and Themes" in the 
release notes.  It seems even the ones hosted on addons.thunderbird.net 
may be WebExtensions now but don't work with SeaMonkey - see e.g. 
.


I'm currently using v2.68 of British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto). 
You can download older versions by following the "See complete version 
history" link near the bottom of 
. 
  There, 2.68 is explicitly mentioned as being a legacy extension, and 
there's mention of this 2.70 already being a WebExtension.  It's not 
clear which 2.69 is, so that might perhaps work, or it might be that 
2.68 is the last that works in current SeaMonkey.


If you right-click the "Download Now" button, you can select "Save Link 
Target As..." to download the .xpi file for the extension rather than 
immediately installing it.  That way you've got it in case you need to 
install it again in future.  From about:addons, you can install an 
extension from an .xpi file by clicking the cog icon near the top right 
and selecting "Install Add-on From File..."


On my own laptop, the v2.68 installed doesn't appear to have any means 
of updating as-is, but it is working as expected.


It might be that's the latest which actually works with SeaMonkey.  Or 
it may be related to the fact that update checks for the main 
application don't work.  As far as I can see, 2.69 is the only newer 
version which might possibly work - so you could try downloading and 
installing that as above, but be prepared to revert back to 2.68 if it 
doesn't work.



So it looks like I have 2 separate issues.  Any suggestions?



Mark, etc,
Now that I've had time to try, I've downloaded v2.68 and (?)successfully 
installed it into my wife's laptop.  It shows up in the Add-On Mgr 
screen as a loaded Dictionary, but is not available to select anywhere. 
Whether composing a new email or as the default language under 
Properties - Appearance - Spelling, the only entry in her SM v2.53.5 
install is for the default English-US.  And of course, the link for 'add 
more dictionaries' takes me to the Thunderbird add-ons download page, 
for what that's worth.


I really don't want to abandon SM, but if my English wife can't compose 
emails in her own language in the mail client, what's the point?  I've 
been a loyal Netscape/Mozilla/SM user for some time, but I'm not a 
developer.  My skill set is in system administration, not programming.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

[jcteyssier]

Frank-Rainer Grahl a écrit :


Steve Wendt wrote:

On 11/20/2020 1:22 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Personally I am not impressed by the format. Looks impressive on 
paper only. I doubt anyone other than google needs it in the real 
world and they are now already working on webp2.


I found this nice article a while back:
https://siipo.la/blog/is-webp-really-better-than-jpeg


Yes I read this too and agree. But I don't think it is even worth it for 
small images.


Personally I think compression level has reached a peak. Everything you 
do now compromises quality in some way.


Still using good old zip too. Compression is not that good but very 
convenient to have something which works on almost every system out of 
the box. Same with gif, png and jpeg. If something comes around which 
does this we can talk again. webp and almost anything developed by 
google isn't it. Unfortunately needs to be supported to an extent too.


FRG (backwards yokel)
Still sometimes using .zip but from some years i prefer .7z files: in 
the past have problems with .zip (loss of empty folders: zip does not 
add it if empty and some software look at folder presence and not at 
what is inside). This occur with some zip tools  but not others; since i 
can not now the used tool for the received files it is risky for my usage.
7zip well configured gives smaller file (better compression) with no 
loss AND it add to top folder (zip does not by default) and this is what 
i want.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

[jcteyssier]

Geoff Welsh a écrit :

jcteyssier wrote:

Edmund Wong a écrit :

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.5.  While it was actually released on the 14th, I've only
gotten the chance of posting this today.  My apologies.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Further to note that due to some issues(I would believe bugs, though I
am hand-waving the details), the team is now preparing to get 2.53.1
out.

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.5/





Updated on 3 computers: works well as expected.
I do not see any difference with previous one (2.53.4)


what types of computers?  OS?  version?

Forget:
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.5.1

FR version
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.5 released!

[jcteyssier]

Geoff Welsh a écrit :

jcteyssier wrote:

Edmund Wong a écrit :

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.5.  While it was actually released on the 14th, I've only
gotten the chance of posting this today.  My apologies.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Further to note that due to some issues(I would believe bugs, though I
am hand-waving the details), the team is now preparing to get 2.53.1
out.

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.5
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.5/





Updated on 3 computers: works well as expected.
I do not see any difference with previous one (2.53.4)


what types of computers?  OS?  version?

All computers with W10 pro
1 work laptop computer with  professional profil (on local disc) and 
personal profil (on network disk on nas at home): i swithch between the 
two profiles as needed when working from home (no access to nas when 
oustide of home).


1 personal laptop computer (old but still usefull thinkpad T61) with 
personal profil located on home nas.


1 personal destrop computer with same personal prilfile than the two 
above on nas.


Jean-Charles
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