Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

[Daniel]

no...@nonospam.org wrote on 23/01/21 12:00:

https://www.jewelosco.com

This is the site for a major grocery store and pharmacy chain. It locks 
up SeaMonkey v2.53.5.1 on a fully updated Windows 10 Pro system. Try to 
do anything and it shows "Not Responding".


For what it's worth, my SM 2.49.1 on Linux gives

Quote
Access denied
Error 16
www.jewelosco.com
2021-01-23 03:54:17 UTC
What happened?
This request was blocked by the security rules
Your IP: 203.214.86.23
Proxy IP: 45.60.16.113 (ID 10607-100)
Incident ID: 607000260008177887-102572035340699269
Powered by imperva
End Quote
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SeaMonkey/2.53.5.1 Build identifier: 20201115194905


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[Daniel]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 22/01/21 20:04:

Daniel wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 22/01/21 08:44:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/21/21 3:29 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:





Trying to access the same posting, the top-level one for this thread.
It is from 10 April 2020, 23:32 (my timezone, your mileage may vary).
This attempt is from another profile on another machine, one where 
I have previously replied to this very post myself.




Any help?



I had to get to messages 391-420 from the main archive to find it.


Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
Is this some deficiency with Seamonkey's handling of large 
Newsgroups or has someone started deleting old messages?  I don't 
remember this happening back when I was using 2.49.4.


Answering my own question, I don't have this problem with 
mozilla.general of any of the lower-traffic newsgroups I'm using on 
this server.  It looks to me as though mozilla.support.seamonkey has 
lost most of its history.


Don, if I set my SM 2.49.1 to View -> Threads -> All, I can see that, 
at 17:14 (my time) 06/08/19, you replied in a thread in this newsgroup 
titled "Seamonkey mail ebay". Can you not see this??


I'm guessing there is only so much storage allocated to each newsgroup 
and once that space is full the messages are over-written.


Hmm! Perhaps if we snipped better, the older threads would last 
longer!! ;-P


And then, just as I was snipping my post, I see a reference to 
groups.google.com, maybe their storage is lessor than what mozilla 
allocate!!


Curious - I can see the posts in that thread.  Not just the headers, the 
content as well.
Now to your other hypothesis: I read/write these posts via Seamonkey 
Mail/News on the server news.mozilla.org.  My understanding is that this 
is the "primary", other News providers such as groups.google.com read 
and write to this server.


Yeap!! Same Same for me  and then there is the (whatever) function 
where you can receive all posts here in one great big daily e-mail! 
YUCK!! (IMHO, of course!!)


In Walt S48's first post yesterday he gave me 
a link to Google groups - it is in this mail, you did not snip it - and 
I confirmed to him - also in this mail, unsnipped - that his link worked 
and that the information I was looking for was there and had solved my 
problem.
In another of my posts in this thread I said that the mozilla.general 
newsgroup on the same server does not seem to suffer from the problem. 
There are actually more postings in Mozilla General than in this group 
although I filter+delete on several criteria there so I can't supply 
numbers.  Both are over 110 000.


I (recently) had to make a new account for this news server, so I show 
at 4,306 messages in moz.general verses 5,163 messages in moz.s.seamonkey

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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

[David E. Ross]

On 1/22/2021 5:00 PM, no...@nonospam.org wrote:
> https://www.jewelosco.com
> 
> This is the site for a major grocery store and pharmacy chain. It locks 
> up SeaMonkey v2.53.5.1 on a fully updated Windows 10 Pro system. Try to 
> do anything and it shows "Not Responding".
> 
> It is necessary to use Task Manager to kill the process to get out of 
> it. Task Manager shows it is using a huge amount of memory (Over 1GB) 
> while trying to load the site. I have never seen a site that is so 
> totally incompatible with SeaMonkey, and this is a large corporation 
> which makes it particularly egregious.
> 
> This is critical because the site will be allowing customers to sign up 
> for Covid-19 vaccinations at local pharmacies within a few days.
> 
> This is not a recent problem. I have been using Firefox as an 
> alternative. But now I get an email with a link to a location on this 
> site for vaccine signup and I can't use it.
> 
> Jewel-Osco is part of the Safeway/Albertsons chain, and the email link 
> actually points to a location on their site, which seems to be 
> interconnected and has the same problem.
> 
> Here is that link:
> https://click.email.safeway.com/?qs=e10b65d13a9b9d398e6144d2fe0737fc3111c383162265cda4969e284a29d815e7cfc1fcbc31cbbd7840ba3d1d758647eef30b7ce6211e885d5469b7c597d375
> 
> I know SeaMonkey v2.53.6 was just released, but I'm not ready to try it 
> just yet.
> 
> I have been using SeaMonkey for years but I'm running out of patience 
> with it.
> 
> John
> 

You might try contacting their corporate headquarters.  Do it as a
letter via the Postal Service, not via E-mail.  Send it to the CEO.
Point out that limiting what browsers can be used will also limit their
customer base.

A WhoIs quesry on the domain jewelosco.com revealed two addresses:

Registrant Name: Safeway Inc
Registrant Organization: Safeway Inc
Registrant Street: 31ST ST COR 2ND AVE
Registrant City: TAGUIG CITY
Registrant State/Province: CA
Registrant Postal Code: 1634
Registrant Country: PH
(Philippines??)

Admin Organization: Safeway Inc
Admin Street: 11555 DUBLIN CANYON RD
Admin City: Pleasanton
Admin State/Province: CA
Admin Postal Code: 94588-2815
Admin Country: US
(California in the United States)

You might try Yahoo's  to get the name
and address of the CEO of Albertson's, which seems to own Safeway which,
in turn, seems to own Jewel.

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Re: An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 23/01/2021 01:00, no...@nonospam.org wrote:

https://www.jewelosco.com

This is the site for a major grocery store and pharmacy chain. It locks 
up SeaMonkey v2.53.5.1 on a fully updated Windows 10 Pro system. Try to 
do anything and it shows "Not Responding".

...


Blocked by "Imperva" for me, before even reaching the listed pages on 
the site.


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An important site that doesn't work with SeaMonkey

[notme]

https://www.jewelosco.com

This is the site for a major grocery store and pharmacy chain. It locks 
up SeaMonkey v2.53.5.1 on a fully updated Windows 10 Pro system. Try to 
do anything and it shows "Not Responding".


It is necessary to use Task Manager to kill the process to get out of 
it. Task Manager shows it is using a huge amount of memory (Over 1GB) 
while trying to load the site. I have never seen a site that is so 
totally incompatible with SeaMonkey, and this is a large corporation 
which makes it particularly egregious.


This is critical because the site will be allowing customers to sign up 
for Covid-19 vaccinations at local pharmacies within a few days.


This is not a recent problem. I have been using Firefox as an 
alternative. But now I get an email with a link to a location on this 
site for vaccine signup and I can't use it.


Jewel-Osco is part of the Safeway/Albertsons chain, and the email link 
actually points to a location on their site, which seems to be 
interconnected and has the same problem.


Here is that link:
https://click.email.safeway.com/?qs=e10b65d13a9b9d398e6144d2fe0737fc3111c383162265cda4969e284a29d815e7cfc1fcbc31cbbd7840ba3d1d758647eef30b7ce6211e885d5469b7c597d375

I know SeaMonkey v2.53.6 was just released, but I'm not ready to try it 
just yet.


I have been using SeaMonkey for years but I'm running out of patience 
with it.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Cecil Bankston wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/22/21 2:13 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/


I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't run 
when I double-click or use Open or even when I run it as Administrator.  My 
Avast antivirus and an on-demand scan with MalwareBytes show the file is 
safe.  I switched to Edge to download it again in case my original download 
was corrupted, but Microsoft blocked the download, saying the file may harm 
my computer.





By doesn't run you mean the installer doesn't open?

I had no problem installing and running it on Fedora 33 Linux.

Will check on Windows sometime.

When I double-click the exe file I see the busy icon for a few seconds, then 
nothing else happens.  No installer window opens, and no new task appears in 
Task Manager.  There is no UAC issue, as SeaMonkey is not installed on my boot 
drive.




You could read the releasee notes and check if this helps:

+++ snip +++
Windows:

You might not be able to install SeaMonkey in Windows 10 if you have 
turned on the Windows Defender Smartscreen feature. Your SeaMonkey download 
will be blocked in the case. To overcome this go to "Windows Security->App & 
browser control" in the new Windows Settings and set the "Check apps and 
files" setting to Warn from Block.


+++ snip off +++

I got the file directly from the builder a week ago and it installed fine in 
20H2, 1909 and Server 2016. But the first thing I do after installing Windows 
10 is turn off smartscreen and this "block on first sight" stuff. I value my 
privacy too much for allowing to report anything I download to MS :) Real-time 
protection is the only thing on.


sha256 for *seamonkey-2.53.6.en-US.win64.installer.exe directly from the 
builder is 177924a851751c0351fd1a62f86d03caf9a2d08a9e596ff01037a878b56774ec


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

[Cecil Bankston]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/22/21 2:13 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/


I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't 
run when I double-click or use Open or even when I run it as 
Administrator.  My Avast antivirus and an on-demand scan with 
MalwareBytes show the file is safe.  I switched to Edge to download it 
again in case my original download was corrupted, but Microsoft 
blocked the download, saying the file may harm my computer.





By doesn't run you mean the installer doesn't open?

I had no problem installing and running it on Fedora 33 Linux.

Will check on Windows sometime.

When I double-click the exe file I see the busy icon for a few seconds, 
then nothing else happens.  No installer window opens, and no new task 
appears in Task Manager.  There is no UAC issue, as SeaMonkey is not 
installed on my boot drive.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

[Ant]

On 1/22/2021 11:42 AM, Steve Wendt wrote:

On 1/22/2021 11:13 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't 
run when I double-click or use Open


Worked fine here, although M$ "helpfully" gives a nasty warning that it 
was downloaded from the Internet (oh noes!).


MS doesn't know the file. Isn't there a way to ignore it in W10? I did 
notice the installer file doesn't have a signature when my 64-bit W7 HPE 
SP1's UAC prompt came up.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

[WaltS48]

On 1/22/21 2:13 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/


I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't 
run when I double-click or use Open or even when I run it as 
Administrator.  My Avast antivirus and an on-demand scan with 
MalwareBytes show the file is safe.  I switched to Edge to download it 
again in case my original download was corrupted, but Microsoft blocked 
the download, saying the file may harm my computer.





I opened SeaMonkey on Windows 10.
Downloaded the installer.
Quit SeaMonkey.
Opened the File Manager > Downloads folder.
Double clicked on the installer.

A Windows protected your PC dialog appeared.
Windows Defender SmartScreen prevented an unrecognized app from running, 
blah, blah.

With two buttons. "Run anyway" "Don't run"
I ran anyway.

Now running 2.53.6 on Windows 10.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

[Steve Wendt via support-seamonkey]

On 1/22/2021 11:13 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't 
run when I double-click or use Open


Worked fine here, although M$ "helpfully" gives a nasty warning that it 
was downloaded from the Internet (oh noes!).

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

[WaltS48]

On 1/22/21 2:13 PM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/


I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't 
run when I double-click or use Open or even when I run it as 
Administrator.  My Avast antivirus and an on-demand scan with 
MalwareBytes show the file is safe.  I switched to Edge to download it 
again in case my original download was corrupted, but Microsoft blocked 
the download, saying the file may harm my computer.





By doesn't run you mean the installer doesn't open?

I had no problem installing and running it on Fedora 33 Linux.

Will check on Windows sometime.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

[Cecil Bankston]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/


I downloaded the X64 version for my Windows 10 system, but it doesn't 
run when I double-click or use Open or even when I run it as 
Administrator.  My Avast antivirus and an on-demand scan with 
MalwareBytes show the file is safe.  I switched to Edge to download it 
again in case my original download was corrupted, but Microsoft blocked 
the download, saying the file may harm my computer.



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Re: One user not getting Invitations

[Rob Steinmetz]

OK This one is solved. It turned out that our ISP reset our router and 
wiped out the configuration, even though they said they had restored it. 
Putting in the correct settings solved the problem.

 Rob Steinmetz wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I have a small office and one user is not getting invitations from 
Lightning.


Other users with SeaMonkey using the same servers are getting them, 
hers just disappear somewhere. I updated to the latest SeaMonkey 
version on Windows 10.


Is she the first on the list?  The last?

Doesn't matter

Can you send "normal" mails to that address?

Yes
Does she have a spam filter?  One of my Email providers often drops mass 

Only the one in SeaMonkey and we checked the Junk Folder
mailings from a club I belong to, a club with 300-400 members.  They 
do this silently.








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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[WaltS48]

On 1/22/21 1:02 AM, Sjouke Burry wrote:

On 22.01.21 6:20, Daniel wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 22/01/21 08:44:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/21/21 3:29 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:





Trying to access the same posting, the top-level one for this thread.
It is from 10 April 2020, 23:32 (my timezone, your mileage may vary).
This attempt is from another profile on another machine, one where I
have previously replied to this very post myself.



Any help?



I had to get to messages 391-420 from the main archive to find it.


Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
Is this some deficiency with Seamonkey's handling of large Newsgroups
or has someone started deleting old messages?  I don't remember this
happening back when I was using 2.49.4.


Answering my own question, I don't have this problem with
mozilla.general of any of the lower-traffic newsgroups I'm using on this
server.  It looks to me as though mozilla.support.seamonkey has lost
most of its history.


Don, if I set my SM 2.49.1 to View -> Threads -> All, I can see that, at
17:14 (my time) 06/08/19, you replied in a thread in this newsgroup
titled "Seamonkey mail ebay". Can you not see this??

I'm guessing there is only so much storage allocated to each newsgroup
and once that space is full the messages are over-written.

Hmm! Perhaps if we snipped better, the older threads would last 
longer!! ;-P


And then, just as I was snipping my post, I see a reference to
groups.google.com, maybe their storage is lessor than what mozilla
allocate!!


My provider has (almost) all newsgroups, but removes old messsages
after a few days(3-4?) (at news.planet.nl).
OP should check the rules for his provider,


AIUI the rule for news.mozilla.org is that no old messages are removed 
and are also archived on Google Groups.




The occasional post may get removed in a moderated forum if the posting 
rules are broken.




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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[Don Spam's Thundering Son]

On 11/04/2020 13:02, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Mark B wrote:

Windows 10
SM 23.49.5

The SM Data Manager on my wife's machine isn't working right.  When 
it's called up, there's a long period of not allowing any entry in the 
'Search Domains' field, followed by more time where it says (Not 
Responding) when it goes dim, then after about 45 seconds, allowing 
entry in the 'Search Domains' field, and everything is working.  This 
happens every time it is called.


Any ideas?


 From the release notes 
:


If you experience a hang and/or get a message box that a script is 
busy when opening the Data Manager try deleting the webappsstore.* 
files from your profile folder when SeaMonkey is not running. These 
files contain data stored by web sites and will be recreated during 
the next start. If you are unsure if the information is needed please 
back up the files before deleting them. The problem is tracked in bug 
1305624 but so far no coding error has been found. This problem is 
been reported frequently when trying to manage passwords. But the 
problem will generally happen just after you open the Data Manager, 
because this component is also used for managing cookies, site 
preferences permissions and other settings.




Just to add to the confusion.
I have just installed Thunderbird and followed the same steps as I did 
yesterday in Seamonkey.
It works.  This is the posting I wanted to read, the one where WaltS48 
had to send me a link to google groups because Seamonkey timed out 
trying to open it.

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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Daniel wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote on 22/01/21 08:44:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/21/21 3:29 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:





Trying to access the same posting, the top-level one for this thread.
It is from 10 April 2020, 23:32 (my timezone, your mileage may vary).
This attempt is from another profile on another machine, one where 
I have previously replied to this very post myself.




Any help?



I had to get to messages 391-420 from the main archive to find it.


Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
Is this some deficiency with Seamonkey's handling of large Newsgroups 
or has someone started deleting old messages?  I don't remember this 
happening back when I was using 2.49.4.


Answering my own question, I don't have this problem with 
mozilla.general of any of the lower-traffic newsgroups I'm using on 
this server.  It looks to me as though mozilla.support.seamonkey has 
lost most of its history.


Don, if I set my SM 2.49.1 to View -> Threads -> All, I can see that, at 
17:14 (my time) 06/08/19, you replied in a thread in this newsgroup 
titled "Seamonkey mail ebay". Can you not see this??


I'm guessing there is only so much storage allocated to each newsgroup 
and once that space is full the messages are over-written.


Hmm! Perhaps if we snipped better, the older threads would last longer!! 
;-P


And then, just as I was snipping my post, I see a reference to 
groups.google.com, maybe their storage is lessor than what mozilla 
allocate!!


Curious - I can see the posts in that thread.  Not just the headers, the 
content as well.
Now to your other hypothesis: I read/write these posts via Seamonkey 
Mail/News on the server news.mozilla.org.  My understanding is that this 
is the "primary", other News providers such as groups.google.com read 
and write to this server.  In Walt S48's first post yesterday he gave me 
a link to Google groups - it is in this mail, you did not snip it - and 
I confirmed to him - also in this mail, unsnipped - that his link worked 
and that the information I was looking for was there and had solved my 
problem.
In another of my posts in this thread I said that the mozilla.general 
newsgroup on the same server does not seem to suffer from the problem. 
There are actually more postings in Mozilla General than in this group 
although I filter+delete on several criteria there so I can't supply 
numbers.  Both are over 110 000.



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Re: Problem with Data Manager

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/21/21 4:44 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 1/21/21 3:29 PM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Other Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Article not found

The newsgroup server reports that it can't find the article.

    Newsgroup server responded: no such article
    Perhaps the article has expired?
    Try searching for article: 
 (114862)


This is annoying as hell - I'm having a problem and want to look 
at older threads where other people look to have had the same 
problem. Nothing doing.


This is on a fresh profile with no filters at all, I said I wanted 
to download all headers but anything (?) older than mid June 2020 
is unavailable.


Trying to access the same posting, the top-level one for this thread.
It is from 10 April 2020, 23:32 (my timezone, your mileage may vary).
This attempt is from another profile on another machine, one where 
I have previously replied to this very post myself.




Any help?



I had to get to messages 391-420 from the main archive to find it.



Thank you, that is exactly what I was looking for.
Is this some deficiency with Seamonkey's handling of large Newsgroups 
or has someone started deleting old messages?  I don't remember this 
happening back when I was using 2.49.4.




Answering my own question, I don't have this problem with 
mozilla.general of any of the lower-traffic newsgroups I'm using on 
this server.  It looks to me as though mozilla.support.seamonkey has 
lost most of its history.




I would unsubscribe from the newsgroup, then subscribe again downloading 
as many headers as you would like.




If you look at one of my many previous posts in this thread, this (also) 
happens on a fresh profile with no filters.  I downloaded all headers.


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SeaMonkey 2.53.6 released!

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.6.

So please check out [1] or [2].

Thanks to all involved.

Edmund

PS: Yeah, somewhat a canned message.  Currently in the middle of a bunch
of things while doing release, so my apologies.

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.6
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/




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