Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
On 30/01/2021, Bret Busby wrote: > On 30/01/2021, Bret Busby wrote: >> On 30/01/2021, NFN Smith wrote: >>> Bret Busby wrote: On 30/01/2021, NFN Smith wrote: > Bret Busby wrote: > >> >> ublock origin is not found in searching in Add Ons, Extensions, or >> Plug Ins for Seamonkey 2.53.6 for the build I previously specified. >> > > If you check the Release Notes > (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/), there's > a > link there that resolves to > https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases > > Smith > Both that and the previously mentioned (by other people, I believe) classic add-ons archive, both hosted at github, have only XPL (?) files and source code files. I am running Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE Linux. >>> >>> I have the same setup of Seamonkey on Ubuntu, and running a MATE >>> desktop. >>> >> >> That would be useful, but... see below... >> These applications are not shown as having .deb packages or packages otherwise installable on Ubuntu Linux, and, Seamonkey does not locate them, in searching for add-ons to install. I am not capable of building packages for installation, from source code. So, how do I get either this version of ublock, or, the classic add-ons thingy, installed into Seamonkey, to make it operable? >>> >>> This is the difference between plug-in and extension. In a >>> Debian-derived environment, a plugin-is something that you install from >>> a .deb, and where you can remove with various APT-based tools, such as >>> apt-get, aptitude or dpkg. >>> >>> As noted earlier in this discussion, an extension is exclusively inside >>> the browser. And extensions are platform-neutral, since the code is all >>> scripting (JavaScript, I believe). Thus, download the .XPI file, then >>> go to the Add-Ons Manager, click the gear icon, select "Install Add-On >>> from file...", and select the downloaded .XPI. >>> >>> I will note that for most of the extensions that I run (including >>> uBlock, NoScript, Session Manager, Cookies Exterminator, Display >>> MailUserAgent, and several more), my habit is to download the .XPI file, >>> and then save a copy to my LAN. From that single download, I can >>> install in Seamonkey on any platform (including Windows, Linux and Mac) >>> and in any profile. >>> >>> The key here is that a .XPI file is scripting that's expected to run in >>> an Mozilla application. >>> >>> Unfortunately, at that level, there isn't any differentiation between >>> XUL and the newer WebExtensions. Thus, if you try to install a >>> WebExtensions extension in Seamonkey, you'll get an error, in the the >>> same way that current versions of Firefox and Thunderbird will reject >>> installation of extensions based on XUL. Thus you have to pay attention >>> to version numbers at the distribution site. >>> >>> For uBlock Origin, the current WebExtensions version is 1.32.4, and the >>> most recent XUL version (and is still being updated ) is 1.16.4.28. For >>> Seamonkey use, you don't want version numbers that are 1.17 or later. >>> >> >> Now, here's the rub... >> >> The version of ublock origin at the classic add-ons archive (CAA) >> library package thingy that installed, showed as 1.13. >> > > Sorry - in checking, it is 1.13.10. > >> Upon downloading, to "open" it with Seamonkey, the error message is >> "uBlock Origin/webext-hybrid could not be installed because it is not >> compatible with SeaMonkey 2.53.6." >> >> :( >> >> I will try the CAA versions of Adblock Plus, AdBlocker Ultimate, and >> AdBlocker for YouTube, and find whether they will install. >> >>> One other note about uBlock -- once you have it installed, it will >>> automatically update itself, when new versions are released. I notice >>> that my last downloaded copy is 1.16.4.25, but a check of Seamonkey >>> reveals that I'm running 1.16.4.28, and I haven't done anything specific >>> to update. >>> >>> One other note -- when you're playing in this area, one old extension >>> that I find useful is Add-ons Manager - Version Number. That one will >>> show you the specific version that you're running, and I find that one >>> useful. Unfortunately, it's an XUL extension that got dropped in the >>> Firefox move to WebExtensions, and I think the only source for this one >>> now is if you have installed the Classic Add-Ons Archive. >>> >>> Smith >>> Adblock Plus v2.9.1 appears to have successfully installed. "AdBlocker Ultimate could not be installed because it is not compatible with Seamonkey 2.53.6" (for version 2.26 of AdBlocker Ultimate, from the CAA library) "AdBlocker for YouTube could not be installed because it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.53.6." (for version 0.2.3 of AdBlocker for YouTube from the CAA library) -- Bret Busby UbuntuMATE User and Advocate Clean Energy User and Advocate Human Rights Advocate UBI and Citizens Dividend
Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
On 30/01/2021, Bret Busby wrote: > On 30/01/2021, NFN Smith wrote: >> Bret Busby wrote: >>> On 30/01/2021, NFN Smith wrote: Bret Busby wrote: > > ublock origin is not found in searching in Add Ons, Extensions, or > Plug Ins for Seamonkey 2.53.6 for the build I previously specified. > If you check the Release Notes (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/), there's a link there that resolves to https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases Smith >>> >>> Both that and the previously mentioned (by other people, I believe) >>> classic add-ons archive, both hosted at github, have only XPL (?) >>> files and source code files. >>> >>> I am running Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE Linux. >> >> I have the same setup of Seamonkey on Ubuntu, and running a MATE desktop. >> > > That would be useful, but... see below... > >>> >>> These applications are not shown as having .deb packages or packages >>> otherwise installable on Ubuntu Linux, and, Seamonkey does not locate >>> them, in searching for add-ons to install. >>> >>> I am not capable of building packages for installation, from source >>> code. >>> >>> So, how do I get either this version of ublock, or, the classic >>> add-ons thingy, installed into Seamonkey, to make it operable? >> >> This is the difference between plug-in and extension. In a >> Debian-derived environment, a plugin-is something that you install from >> a .deb, and where you can remove with various APT-based tools, such as >> apt-get, aptitude or dpkg. >> >> As noted earlier in this discussion, an extension is exclusively inside >> the browser. And extensions are platform-neutral, since the code is all >> scripting (JavaScript, I believe). Thus, download the .XPI file, then >> go to the Add-Ons Manager, click the gear icon, select "Install Add-On >> from file...", and select the downloaded .XPI. >> >> I will note that for most of the extensions that I run (including >> uBlock, NoScript, Session Manager, Cookies Exterminator, Display >> MailUserAgent, and several more), my habit is to download the .XPI file, >> and then save a copy to my LAN. From that single download, I can >> install in Seamonkey on any platform (including Windows, Linux and Mac) >> and in any profile. >> >> The key here is that a .XPI file is scripting that's expected to run in >> an Mozilla application. >> >> Unfortunately, at that level, there isn't any differentiation between >> XUL and the newer WebExtensions. Thus, if you try to install a >> WebExtensions extension in Seamonkey, you'll get an error, in the the >> same way that current versions of Firefox and Thunderbird will reject >> installation of extensions based on XUL. Thus you have to pay attention >> to version numbers at the distribution site. >> >> For uBlock Origin, the current WebExtensions version is 1.32.4, and the >> most recent XUL version (and is still being updated ) is 1.16.4.28. For >> Seamonkey use, you don't want version numbers that are 1.17 or later. >> > > Now, here's the rub... > > The version of ublock origin at the classic add-ons archive (CAA) > library package thingy that installed, showed as 1.13. > Sorry - in checking, it is 1.13.10. > Upon downloading, to "open" it with Seamonkey, the error message is > "uBlock Origin/webext-hybrid could not be installed because it is not > compatible with SeaMonkey 2.53.6." > > :( > > I will try the CAA versions of Adblock Plus, AdBlocker Ultimate, and > AdBlocker for YouTube, and find whether they will install. > >> One other note about uBlock -- once you have it installed, it will >> automatically update itself, when new versions are released. I notice >> that my last downloaded copy is 1.16.4.25, but a check of Seamonkey >> reveals that I'm running 1.16.4.28, and I haven't done anything specific >> to update. >> >> One other note -- when you're playing in this area, one old extension >> that I find useful is Add-ons Manager - Version Number. That one will >> show you the specific version that you're running, and I find that one >> useful. Unfortunately, it's an XUL extension that got dropped in the >> Firefox move to WebExtensions, and I think the only source for this one >> now is if you have installed the Classic Add-Ons Archive. >> >> Smith >> > > > -- > Bret Busby > UbuntuMATE User and Advocate > Clean Energy User and Advocate > Human Rights Advocate > UBI and Citizens Dividend Advocate > > Armadale > West Australia > (UTC+0800) > .. > ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
On 30/01/2021, NFN Smith wrote: > Bret Busby wrote: >> On 30/01/2021, NFN Smith wrote: >>> Bret Busby wrote: >>> ublock origin is not found in searching in Add Ons, Extensions, or Plug Ins for Seamonkey 2.53.6 for the build I previously specified. >>> >>> If you check the Release Notes >>> (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/), there's a >>> link there that resolves to >>> https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases >>> >>> Smith >>> >> >> Both that and the previously mentioned (by other people, I believe) >> classic add-ons archive, both hosted at github, have only XPL (?) >> files and source code files. >> >> I am running Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE Linux. > > I have the same setup of Seamonkey on Ubuntu, and running a MATE desktop. > That would be useful, but... see below... >> >> These applications are not shown as having .deb packages or packages >> otherwise installable on Ubuntu Linux, and, Seamonkey does not locate >> them, in searching for add-ons to install. >> >> I am not capable of building packages for installation, from source code. >> >> So, how do I get either this version of ublock, or, the classic >> add-ons thingy, installed into Seamonkey, to make it operable? > > This is the difference between plug-in and extension. In a > Debian-derived environment, a plugin-is something that you install from > a .deb, and where you can remove with various APT-based tools, such as > apt-get, aptitude or dpkg. > > As noted earlier in this discussion, an extension is exclusively inside > the browser. And extensions are platform-neutral, since the code is all > scripting (JavaScript, I believe). Thus, download the .XPI file, then > go to the Add-Ons Manager, click the gear icon, select "Install Add-On > from file...", and select the downloaded .XPI. > > I will note that for most of the extensions that I run (including > uBlock, NoScript, Session Manager, Cookies Exterminator, Display > MailUserAgent, and several more), my habit is to download the .XPI file, > and then save a copy to my LAN. From that single download, I can > install in Seamonkey on any platform (including Windows, Linux and Mac) > and in any profile. > > The key here is that a .XPI file is scripting that's expected to run in > an Mozilla application. > > Unfortunately, at that level, there isn't any differentiation between > XUL and the newer WebExtensions. Thus, if you try to install a > WebExtensions extension in Seamonkey, you'll get an error, in the the > same way that current versions of Firefox and Thunderbird will reject > installation of extensions based on XUL. Thus you have to pay attention > to version numbers at the distribution site. > > For uBlock Origin, the current WebExtensions version is 1.32.4, and the > most recent XUL version (and is still being updated ) is 1.16.4.28. For > Seamonkey use, you don't want version numbers that are 1.17 or later. > Now, here's the rub... The version of ublock origin at the classic add-ons archive (CAA) library package thingy that installed, showed as 1.13. Upon downloading, to "open" it with Seamonkey, the error message is "uBlock Origin/webext-hybrid could not be installed because it is not compatible with SeaMonkey 2.53.6." :( I will try the CAA versions of Adblock Plus, AdBlocker Ultimate, and AdBlocker for YouTube, and find whether they will install. > One other note about uBlock -- once you have it installed, it will > automatically update itself, when new versions are released. I notice > that my last downloaded copy is 1.16.4.25, but a check of Seamonkey > reveals that I'm running 1.16.4.28, and I haven't done anything specific > to update. > > One other note -- when you're playing in this area, one old extension > that I find useful is Add-ons Manager - Version Number. That one will > show you the specific version that you're running, and I find that one > useful. Unfortunately, it's an XUL extension that got dropped in the > Firefox move to WebExtensions, and I think the only source for this one > now is if you have installed the Classic Add-Ons Archive. > > Smith > -- Bret Busby UbuntuMATE User and Advocate Clean Energy User and Advocate Human Rights Advocate UBI and Citizens Dividend Advocate Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
NFN Smith wrote: As noted earlier in this discussion, an extension is exclusively inside the browser. And extensions are platform-neutral, since the code is all scripting (JavaScript, I believe). Thus, download the .XPI file, then go to the Add-Ons Manager, click the gear icon, select "Install Add-On from file...", and select the downloaded .XPI. One other note -- you can bypass the Add-ons Manager to install an extension. In the browser, using File -> Open to open the downloaded .XPI file will also install the extension. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
Bret Busby wrote: On 30/01/2021, NFN Smith wrote: Bret Busby wrote: ublock origin is not found in searching in Add Ons, Extensions, or Plug Ins for Seamonkey 2.53.6 for the build I previously specified. If you check the Release Notes (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/), there's a link there that resolves to https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases Smith Both that and the previously mentioned (by other people, I believe) classic add-ons archive, both hosted at github, have only XPL (?) files and source code files. I am running Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE Linux. I have the same setup of Seamonkey on Ubuntu, and running a MATE desktop. These applications are not shown as having .deb packages or packages otherwise installable on Ubuntu Linux, and, Seamonkey does not locate them, in searching for add-ons to install. I am not capable of building packages for installation, from source code. So, how do I get either this version of ublock, or, the classic add-ons thingy, installed into Seamonkey, to make it operable? This is the difference between plug-in and extension. In a Debian-derived environment, a plugin-is something that you install from a .deb, and where you can remove with various APT-based tools, such as apt-get, aptitude or dpkg. As noted earlier in this discussion, an extension is exclusively inside the browser. And extensions are platform-neutral, since the code is all scripting (JavaScript, I believe). Thus, download the .XPI file, then go to the Add-Ons Manager, click the gear icon, select "Install Add-On from file...", and select the downloaded .XPI. I will note that for most of the extensions that I run (including uBlock, NoScript, Session Manager, Cookies Exterminator, Display MailUserAgent, and several more), my habit is to download the .XPI file, and then save a copy to my LAN. From that single download, I can install in Seamonkey on any platform (including Windows, Linux and Mac) and in any profile. The key here is that a .XPI file is scripting that's expected to run in an Mozilla application. Unfortunately, at that level, there isn't any differentiation between XUL and the newer WebExtensions. Thus, if you try to install a WebExtensions extension in Seamonkey, you'll get an error, in the the same way that current versions of Firefox and Thunderbird will reject installation of extensions based on XUL. Thus you have to pay attention to version numbers at the distribution site. For uBlock Origin, the current WebExtensions version is 1.32.4, and the most recent XUL version (and is still being updated ) is 1.16.4.28. For Seamonkey use, you don't want version numbers that are 1.17 or later. One other note about uBlock -- once you have it installed, it will automatically update itself, when new versions are released. I notice that my last downloaded copy is 1.16.4.25, but a check of Seamonkey reveals that I'm running 1.16.4.28, and I haven't done anything specific to update. One other note -- when you're playing in this area, one old extension that I find useful is Add-ons Manager - Version Number. That one will show you the specific version that you're running, and I find that one useful. Unfortunately, it's an XUL extension that got dropped in the Firefox move to WebExtensions, and I think the only source for this one now is if you have installed the Classic Add-Ons Archive. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
On 30/01/2021, NFN Smith wrote: > Bret Busby wrote: > >> >> ublock origin is not found in searching in Add Ons, Extensions, or >> Plug Ins for Seamonkey 2.53.6 for the build I previously specified. >> > > If you check the Release Notes > (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/), there's a > link there that resolves to > https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases > > Smith > Both that and the previously mentioned (by other people, I believe) classic add-ons archive, both hosted at github, have only XPL (?) files and source code files. I am running Seamonkey on UbuntuMATE Linux. These applications are not shown as having .deb packages or packages otherwise installable on Ubuntu Linux, and, Seamonkey does not locate them, in searching for add-ons to install. I am not capable of building packages for installation, from source code. So, how do I get either this version of ublock, or, the classic add-ons thingy, installed into Seamonkey, to make it operable? -- Bret Busby UbuntuMATE User and Advocate Clean Energy User and Advocate Human Rights Advocate UBI and Citizens Dividend Advocate Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
Bret Busby wrote: Forwarded to list, as reply did not default to list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bret Busby Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:00:20 +0800 Subject: Re: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking To: Rubens On 29/01/2021, Rubens via support-seamonkey wrote: It is not plugins, but extensions that do the ad and tracking blocking. uBlock Origin still works well with SeaMonkey. Same here. ublock origin is not found in searching in Add Ons, Extensions, or Plug Ins for Seamonkey 2.53.6 for the build I previously specified. You need to use the legacy version of uBlock Origin with SeaMonkey (and Pale Moon). https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
Bret Busby wrote: ublock origin is not found in searching in Add Ons, Extensions, or Plug Ins for Seamonkey 2.53.6 for the build I previously specified. If you check the Release Notes (https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.6/), there's a link there that resolves to https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
On 26/01/2021, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote: > On 25/01/2021 18:57, Bret Busby wrote: >> I am running >> >> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 >> Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.6 >> Build identifier: 20210118013008 >> >> on UbuntuMATE Linux 20.10. >> >> Seamonkey does not allow ad blocking plugins like Adblock Plus and >> Adblock Ultimate, etc, that are allowed by Firefox, and, a plugin name >> "Bluehell Firewall" that apparently does ad blocking and tracking >> blocking, is "not compatible with your version of Seamonkey. > > Bluhell Firewall 2.6.4 (FWIW an extension, not a plugin) works fine, > certainly on 2.53.5.1 and earlier, but see below. > Now, here is an interesting observation. Two computers, both running Seamonkey 2.53.6 (and, the same build number) on UbuntuMATE Linux 20.10, one (running an i7 CPU) installed the Bluhell firewall add-on, without any problem, and, the other (running an i5 CPU), returns the error "This add-on is not compatible with your version of Seamonkey". Hmm. -- Bret Busby UbuntuMATE User and Advocate Clean Energy User and Advocate Human Rights Advocate UBI and Citizens Dividend Advocate Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Fwd: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking
Forwarded to list, as reply did not default to list. -- Forwarded message -- From: Bret Busby Date: Sat, 30 Jan 2021 00:00:20 +0800 Subject: Re: Seamonkey 2.53.6 - why does it block ad blocking and tracking blocking To: Rubens On 29/01/2021, Rubens via support-seamonkey wrote: > >>> >> It is not plugins, but extensions that do the ad and tracking blocking. >> uBlock Origin still works well with SeaMonkey. >> > > Same here. ublock origin is not found in searching in Add Ons, Extensions, or Plug Ins for Seamonkey 2.53.6 for the build I previously specified. -- Bret Busby UbuntuMATE User and Advocate Clean Energy User and Advocate Human Rights Advocate UBI and Citizens Dividend Advocate Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. -- Bret Busby UbuntuMATE User and Advocate Clean Energy User and Advocate Human Rights Advocate UBI and Citizens Dividend Advocate Armadale West Australia (UTC+0800) .. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Help! All my passwords gone after update frum 2.53.3 to 2.53.6.1
Hi Rob, how did you get out of this mess ? thanks for help jochen Rob Steinmetz schrieb: It happened to me when upgrading to 2.53.6 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
