Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Ray Davison 

Bret Busby wrote:

On 29/3/21 5:58 am, Ray Davison wrote:
https://groups.io/g/mozilla currently lists only 20 members.  I 
consider .io a better system.


Mozilla mozi...@groups.io
My names Bob Edenhofer, and I'm the owner of this list! this list is 
for the purpose of discussing the on going development, of mozilla 
products, sutch as thunderbird, firefox, and SeaMonkey, whitch is an 
internet and email client, all built into one!
The rules are as follows! 1! there's absolutely no profanity on here, 
whatsoever! 2! there's absolutely no bad mouthing mozilla and their 
products! 3! if you know that a message is off topic? Then don't post 
it, because you'll clutter my list, with unnecessary traffic! 4! if 
someone posts a message, and you don't know the answer? Then don't 
post a message saying you don't know, because you'll clutter my list, 
with unnecessary traffic! 5! I signed up to become a developer for 
mozilla, and I'm also a developer for NVAccess, the company that makes 
the free open source screenreader, NVDA for the blind and visually 
impaired! 6! If anyone violates my rules and regulations, that I set 
forth on this list, you's are automaticly, banned! no questions asked! 
I'm also totally blind as well!


Are you the list administrator of the list on which this message is 
posted, or, are you the list administrator of the groups.io list that 
you cited?



I just pasted the introduction, which contains the owner's ID.

We don't need any Mozilla org to provide us a place to share Mozilla info.

Ray
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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Ray_Net 

Bret Busby wrote on 28-03-21 14:52:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3



It seems like this is the end of all mozilla products. In other words, 
in no time all mozilla products will be dead.


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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Bret Busby 

On 29/3/21 5:58 am, Ray Davison wrote:
https://groups.io/g/mozilla currently lists only 20 members.  I consider 
.io a better system.


Mozilla mozi...@groups.io
My names Bob Edenhofer, and I'm the owner of this list! this list is for 
the purpose of discussing the on going development, of mozilla products, 
sutch as thunderbird, firefox, and SeaMonkey, whitch is an internet and 
email client, all built into one!
The rules are as follows! 1! there's absolutely no profanity on here, 
whatsoever! 2! there's absolutely no bad mouthing mozilla and their 
products! 3! if you know that a message is off topic? Then don't post 
it, because you'll clutter my list, with unnecessary traffic! 4! if 
someone posts a message, and you don't know the answer? Then don't post 
a message saying you don't know, because you'll clutter my list, with 
unnecessary traffic! 5! I signed up to become a developer for mozilla, 
and I'm also a developer for NVAccess, the company that makes the free 
open source screenreader, NVDA for the blind and visually impaired! 6! 
If anyone violates my rules and regulations, that I set forth on this 
list, you's are automaticly, banned! no questions asked! I'm also 
totally blind as well!


Are you the list administrator of the list on which this message is 
posted, or, are you the list administrator of the groups.io list that 
you cited?


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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Ray Davison 
https://groups.io/g/mozilla currently lists only 20 members.  I consider 
.io a better system.


Mozilla mozi...@groups.io
My names Bob Edenhofer, and I'm the owner of this list! this list is for 
the purpose of discussing the on going development, of mozilla products, 
sutch as thunderbird, firefox, and SeaMonkey, whitch is an internet and 
email client, all built into one!
The rules are as follows! 1! there's absolutely no profanity on here, 
whatsoever! 2! there's absolutely no bad mouthing mozilla and their 
products! 3! if you know that a message is off topic? Then don't post 
it, because you'll clutter my list, with unnecessary traffic! 4! if 
someone posts a message, and you don't know the answer? Then don't post 
a message saying you don't know, because you'll clutter my list, with 
unnecessary traffic! 5! I signed up to become a developer for mozilla, 
and I'm also a developer for NVAccess, the company that makes the free 
open source screenreader, NVDA for the blind and visually impaired! 6! 
If anyone violates my rules and regulations, that I set forth on this 
list, you's are automaticly, banned! no questions asked! I'm also 
totally blind as well!

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Re: Is this list being shutdown

2021-03-28 Thread WaltS48 

On 3/28/21 3:47 PM, Bret Busby wrote:

As this list appears to be being shut down within a week, could the
list administrator please advise as to how many subscriber this list
has?

Thank you in anticipation.


What makes you think they read it?

It isn't moderated, and I had no problem finding the admin address from 
the Wiki .


Where they haven't announced the pending shutdown as yet. 

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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son 

Bret Busby wrote:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3


*WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not appear.

Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and you
will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.


*WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
archive will be read-only.

If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages before
the news server is shut down.
1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
"mozilla.support.firefox"
2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
selecting all.


*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Firefox support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support

If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.


*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.


*WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
#firefox chat room at
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo chat
room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org

My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias



I'm wondering whether it is worth the effort of downloading the almost 
116000 messages on this newsgroup.  If one person does it - and I'm 
trying - then maybe everyone else who wants it won't need to.  I'm not 
up to hosting a server with all this but if someone else is . . .

Oh, and some stuff won't be in any copy I make:
- Support the Fork.
- ANYTHINGI BY THATI LUNATICI, you know the one.

I have a Thunderbird profile just for mozilla.support.seamonkey

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Re: Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Bret Busby 
On 28/03/2021, Bret Busby  wrote:
> Please see the message below.
>
> I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org
>
> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Chris Ilias 
> Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
> Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
> To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org
>
> *WHAT IS HAPPENING*
> Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
> mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).
>
>
> *WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
> lists.mozilla.org: April 3
> news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3
>
>
> *WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
> Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
> messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
> access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
> newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not
> appear.
>
> Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and you
> will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.
>
>
> *WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
> The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
> https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
> As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
> archive will be read-only.
>
> If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages before
> the news server is shut down.
> 1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
> "mozilla.support.firefox"
> 2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
> 3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
> NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
> download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
> selecting all.
>
>
> *WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
> The primary Firefox support forum is at
> https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
> Other languages can be found at
> https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support
>
> If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
> can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.
>
>
> *WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
> Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
> years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
> to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
> Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
> newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.
>
>
> *WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
> You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
> If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
> #firefox chat room at
> https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo chat
> room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org
>
> My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias
>
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As this list appears to be being shut down within a week, could the
list administrator please advise as to how many subscriber this list
has?

Thank you in anticipation.

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Re: Is this list being shutdown

2021-03-28 Thread WaltS48 
Yes, as explained in the message you quote. Even the ones the developers 
use are being shutdown and they have to move their discussions.


How could they do this to themselves!

For announcements of new SeaMonkey versions you can follow the topic on 
mozillaZine at


<http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=3>

for support <http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=40>

or just peruse all topics <http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewforum.php?f=51>

There is also a SeaMonkey channel on the FreeNode chat channel 
<https://freenode.logbot.info/seamonkey/20210328>, and the meeting notes 
at <https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings>


On 3/28/21 8:52 AM, Bret Busby wrote:

Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3


*WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not appear.

Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and you
will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.


*WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
archive will be read-only.

If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages before
the news server is shut down.
1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
"mozilla.support.firefox"
2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
selecting all.


*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Firefox support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support

If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.


*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.


*WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
#firefox chat room at
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo chat
room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org

My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias



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Re: Installing Sea Monkey 2.53.6

2021-03-28 Thread Don Spam's Reckless Son 

Vivian S. Ramalingam wrote:
I have completed installing 2.53.6 (from 2.49.5) but I keep getting 
request to install every time I open Sea Monkey. Docs tells me it is 
already installed. I completed useragent string reset, but I'm still 
getting the notice.


PLZ help!

Vivian Ramalingam


You are running on a Mac?

The only thing I can think of which could cause that is moving from a 
32-bit Seamonkey to a 64-bit version without uninstalling the 32-bit one 
first, but that applies to Windows.  No idea about Macs.



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Is this list being shutdown and Seamonkey and Firefox and Thunderbird being assimilated into the Borg

2021-03-28 Thread Bret Busby 
Please see the message below.

I note that this list is hosted on lists.mozilla.org

-- Forwarded message --
From: Chris Ilias 
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 16:11:20 -0400
Subject: **THIS FORUM WILL BE SHUT DOWN SOON**
To: mozilla-support-fire...@lists.mozilla.org

*WHAT IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla is shutting down the newsgroup server (news.mozilla.org) and
mailing lists (list.mozilla.org).


*WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN*
lists.mozilla.org: April 3
news.mozilla.org: Sometime after April 3


*WHAT YOU WILL EXPERIENCE*
Because all posts to this newsgroup go through the mailing list, no
messages will be approved after April 3. You will still be able to
access news.mozilla.org, but there will be no new posts in this
newsgroup after that. If you try to post a message, it will just not appear.

Sometime after that, Giganews will shut down news.mozilla.org, and you
will no longer be able to access the newsgroup.


*WHERE TO FIND THE ARCHIVE*
The archive of this newsgroup will be kept intact at
https://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.support.firefox/
As with other newsgroups that have been shuttered in the past, the
archive will be read-only.

If you're using Thunderbird, you can also download all messages before
the news server is shut down.
1. In your Local Folders account, create a new folder called
"mozilla.support.firefox"
2. Open the newsgroup, then go to Edit-->Select-->All.
3. Go to Message-->Move_to-->Local_Folders-->mozilla.support.firefox
NOTE: There are over 190,000 messages, so it will take a long time to
download. You may want to select batches of messages instead of
selecting all.


*WHERE TO GO FOR SUPPORT*
The primary Firefox support forum is at
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/firefox?show=all
Other languages can be found at
https://support.mozilla.org/kb/get-community-support

If you prefer newsgroups, there may be newsgroups on Usenet where you
can find Firefox support. If not, try netscape.public.mozilla.browser.


*WHY THIS IS HAPPENING*
Mozilla has been migrating off of mailing lists and newsgroups for many
years now. Many of the mailing lists have already closed down and moved
to https://discourse.mozilla.org/
Even though a support web forum already exists, the support
newsgroups/lists have remained open for the lifetime of the server.


*WHERE TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ANNOUNCEMENT*
You can reply to this post, and I'll try to answer any questions.
If you have questions after the shutdown, you can find me in the
#firefox chat room at
https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#firefox:mozilla.org or the #sumo chat
room at https://chat.mozilla.org/#/room/#SUMO:mozilla.org

My display name on chat.mozilla.org is cilias

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