Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Ant]

On 4/1/2021 3:53 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without 
me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them 
to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!



Enjoy. :)


Yep, I use it too in IRC. How about that! :D
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Ray Davison]

WaltS48 wrote:



So you don't know what a Blog & News Feed account is, and don't know how 
to set one up?


I have a "Seamonkey feeds - Blogs and News feeds" section.  I have a 
couple things setup.


I don't recall why I never made more use of it.  Email is just so easy, 
and it threads so well.


And I prefer lists that work like .io rather than the Mozilla.org list. 
In .io the default reply is to the list.  In lists like Mozilla.org I 
regularly replied to the sender rather than the list by mistake.


Ray




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 01/04/2021 21:55, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
...>
Thanks, and just to note that updating the Ubuntuzilla package 
(through its apt repository) without updating the corresponding 
language pack can result in the Compose window losing all contents and 
functionality.


Presumably one can break other builds in a similar way.

We tied the official language packs to the specific version in the 
latest builds. Should only happen if you have a language pack from 
2.53.1 to, I think, 2.53.3).


This was 2.53.6 to 2.53.7.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[WaltS48]

Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without me 
doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them to 
see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray



How about that!

The blog has it's own feed!



Enjoy. :)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[WaltS48]

On 4/1/21 6:13 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without 
me doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them 
to see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray

So you don't know what a Blog & News Feed account is, and don't know how 
to set one up?


I get the push of the SeaMonkey blog in Planet Mozilla Projects via the 
feed.



 SeaMonkey — SeaMonkey 2.53.7
 has been released!
 
is
 one of the items I saw in my account in Thunderbird.

Another is,


 SeaMonkey  — SeaMonkey Support
 newsgroups and mailing lists…
 


I'm subscribed to 20 feeds. Some of which are temporary for testing bug 
reports, others give me a daily update on the bugs fixed for every 
Firefox and Thunderbird version, others are tech news sites. I even have 
one for BBC News.


You just want to bs between each other use what suits you.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Ray Davison]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


Planet Mozilla Projects 

An email list like groups.io is "push" - it lands in my inbox without me 
doing anything.  Blogs and forums are "pull".  I need to go to them to 
see if anything has changed.  Life is too short for that.


Ray

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Bret Busby]

On 02/04/2021, Bret Busby  wrote:
> On 02/04/2021, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com
>  wrote:
>> Bret Busby wrote:
>>> I have not been able to download and install the en-gb dictionary -
>>> whilst I have selected to download the dictionary, and it appears to
>>> happen, the installation appears to not implement. It does not show as
>>> an available language in the spellchecker.
>>>
>>> That applies to both this latest version, and, previous versions.
>>
>> If that's Marco Pinto's British English dictionary, you need to use
>> version 2.68 from
>> .
>>
>>   Newer versions are WebExtensions and, although they appear to install,
>> they don't work in SeaMonkey 2.53.
>>
>> If you've installed a newer version, it might appear in the "Extensions"
>> rather than "Dictionaries" section of Add-ons Manager, and you'll
>> probably need to remove it from there before installing the older 2.68.
>>
>> --
>> Mark.
>>
>
> How do I install that one?
>
> In trying to find an en-gb language pack, the only result found, is
> the latest version.
>

It's alright - I found and installed it.

And, it seems to work.

Thank you for your help.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Bret Busby]

On 02/04/2021, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com
 wrote:
> Bret Busby wrote:
>> I have not been able to download and install the en-gb dictionary -
>> whilst I have selected to download the dictionary, and it appears to
>> happen, the installation appears to not implement. It does not show as
>> an available language in the spellchecker.
>>
>> That applies to both this latest version, and, previous versions.
>
> If that's Marco Pinto's British English dictionary, you need to use
> version 2.68 from
> .
>
>   Newer versions are WebExtensions and, although they appear to install,
> they don't work in SeaMonkey 2.53.
>
> If you've installed a newer version, it might appear in the "Extensions"
> rather than "Dictionaries" section of Add-ons Manager, and you'll
> probably need to remove it from there before installing the older 2.68.
>
> --
> Mark.
>

How do I install that one?

In trying to find an en-gb language pack, the only result found, is
the latest version.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Bret Busby wrote:

I have not been able to download and install the en-gb dictionary -
whilst I have selected to download the dictionary, and it appears to
happen, the installation appears to not implement. It does not show as
an available language in the spellchecker.

That applies to both this latest version, and, previous versions.


If that's Marco Pinto's British English dictionary, you need to use 
version 2.68 from 
. 
 Newer versions are WebExtensions and, although they appear to install, 
they don't work in SeaMonkey 2.53.


If you've installed a newer version, it might appear in the "Extensions" 
rather than "Dictionaries" section of Add-ons Manager, and you'll 
probably need to remove it from there before installing the older 2.68.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

On 31/03/2021 05:44, Edmund Wong wrote:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.7.
...


Thanks, and just to note that updating the Ubuntuzilla package (through its 
apt repository) without updating the corresponding language pack can result in 
the Compose window losing all contents and functionality.


Presumably one can break other builds in a similar way.

/df



Wie tied the official language packs to the specific version in the latest 
builds. Should only happen ist you have a language pack from 2.53.1 to, I 
think, 2.53.3).


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Bret Busby]

On 02/04/2021, Dirk Fieldhouse
 wrote:
> On 31/03/2021 05:44, Edmund Wong wrote:
>
>> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
>> 2.53.7.
>>...
>
> Thanks, and just to note that updating the Ubuntuzilla package (through
> its apt repository) without updating the corresponding language pack can
> result in the Compose window losing all contents and functionality.
>
> Presumably one can break other builds in a similar way.
>
> /df
>
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I have not been able to download and install the en-gb dictionary -
whilst I have selected to download the dictionary, and it appears to
happen, the installation appears to not implement. It does not show as
an available language in the spellchecker.

That applies to both this latest version, and, previous versions.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 31/03/2021 05:44, Edmund Wong wrote:


The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.7.
...


Thanks, and just to note that updating the Ubuntuzilla package (through 
its apt repository) without updating the corresponding language pack can 
result in the Compose window losing all contents and functionality.


Presumably one can break other builds in a similar way.

/df

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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Chris Ilias wrote:

On 2021-04-01 9:48 a.m., Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.


Not viable.  It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably 
going to be terminated at the same time.



The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet before 
this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available on Usenet 
when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.



For more information, see 





I stand corrected.  I had seen that the netscape.public groups were on 
the Mozilla servers and had assumed that they "owned" the groups.


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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2021-04-01 9:48 a.m., Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.


Not viable.  It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably going 
to be terminated at the same time.



The netscape.public.* hierarchy is on Usenet, and was on Usenet before 
this server existed. Those newsgroups will still be available on Usenet 
when this server shuts down.


The inability to close down or rename old newsgroups is one of the 
reasons why these groups are not fed to Usenet.



For more information, see 



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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

[Richard Owlett]

On 04/01/2021 08:48 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/30/2021 4:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be
automatically fatal to it also?
Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?



I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.



Not viable.  It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably going 
to be terminated at the same time.




How do you determine where a list is hosted?



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Re: Opening about:xxxx via links

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

EE wrote:

David H. Durgee wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/31/21 5:32 AM, Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
I have a low-priority question which is going to have to be asked 
now - before the forum dies.


If I want to make - say - "about:memory" clickable from a web page, 
how do I go about it?  I've tried the obvious href="about:memory">about:memory along with various other 
alternatives such as http://about:memory but none of them work.


The reason for this is that my Seamonkey becomes slow to 
non-responsive after a few hours and the least intrusive way of 
fixing this is to do a full cleanup of SM's memory usage.
Sometimes I mistype and pass the request along to a search engine, 
opening the page from my "home page" would be cleaner.  There are 
some other "about" options I use less often, putting them in the 
home-page would also be helpful.



Open the about:memory page and bookmark it?



Would be nice if I could add a pref-bar button for this.  Just tried 
it and went from 2.1G to 1.2G here.


Dave


Put the bookmark on the bookmarks toolbar.



That is what Walt suggested - as you can see.
I implemented that and it worked, then I replied to thank him.  That was 
yesterday and obviously did not work.


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Re: Does a _VIABLE_ SeaMonkey USENET group already exist?

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/30/2021 4:39 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

I access USENET via news.supernews.com .
It carries netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey .
Its activity has be quite low {~600 posts in last decade}.
Will whatever is causing the demise of mozilla.support.seamonkey be
automatically fatal to it also?
Is it carried by enough news servers to be viable?
Sub-question: Is it carried by popular free($) news servers?



I found netscape.public.mozilla.seamonkey on both nntp.aioe.org and
news.eternal-september.org.  Messages were posted there as recently as
today.



Not viable.  It is hosted on the Mozilla servers and is presumably going 
to be terminated at the same time.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[WaltS48]

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Forgot to mention in my other reply that I see SeaMonkey release 
announcements in the Planet Mozilla Projects news feed in my Blogs & 
News Feeds account.


Let me know if you need help setting up an account and subscribing to 
the feed.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[WaltS48]

On 3/31/21 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,



A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
place to post this 


So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?

Ray

Because, they are a small volunteer group that doesn't need to be spread 
out more, have a blog and are on mozillaZine.


Blog 

mozillaZine 



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.7 released!

[ Mr . Ed  via support-seamonkey]

On 3/31/2021 9:32 PM, Ray Davison wrote:
> Edmund Wong wrote:
>> Greetings,
>
>> A new era will be upon us when we finally find a new
>> place to post this 
>
> So why not seamonkey-supp...@groups.io?
>
> Ray
>

Sure, just create a new e-mail address to be used for mail coming from
groups.io.  No problem.

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Kill-filing threads

[Daniel]

Note: Follow-up set to m.d.a.seamonkey

In one of my UseNet groups, a couple of the contributors make some 
useful posts (so I don't want to totally Kill-file those posters) AND 
they make a lot (90%, maybe) of useless posts, i.e. SPAM, usually in 
specific threads.


For example, maybe, last year Poster A might have made a post announcing 
that that day was someone's birthday to which Poster B would respond 
that 'we' don't give a damn and to shut up. Then, this year, Poster A 
would make the same announcement, WITH THE SAME SUBJECT:, so that post 
joins on to the original THREAD (assuming I have 'Threads with Unread' 
View selected) ... and Poster B will make their same reply.


And next year, I'm betting the same thing will happen ... and so on and 
so on and so on.


I initially though by pressing 'k' or 'K', I would kill-file that 
thread, but all that does is 'Make as Read' those posts in that thread 
NOW. Any new posts under that same Subject: (next day, next year, 
whenever) will still appear as 'Unread' in that thread.


When I asked about this problem in m.s.seamonkey, I was advised to try 
'Ctrl-K' and on 'Shift-K', the former to, apparently, Kill-file the 
entire thread forever (or until the newsgroup is completely re-loaded) 
whilst the later would Kill-file that branch ('twig') of the thread but 
leave the rest of the thread untouched!


Using Shift-K seems to work on the 'twig'. Pressing Shift-K marks this 
sub-ordinate message and any messages sub-ordinate to it as well as read 
and the cursor moves on to the next unread message in the next 'twig' or 
the next thread.


Using Ctrl-K seems totally ineffective with the Cursor remaining on the 
message I had just selected


"No problem", I thought, "when I want to totally kill-file a thread 
forever, I'll just go back and select the Root post in the thread and 
then press Shift-K and, hopefully, that would Kill-file the entire 
thread" . and this sort of works except, if there were any other 
un-read posts in that thread, they are marked as read as desired (in 
fact they disappear from view, even though the rest of the thread 
structure remains visible) but there is still a number in the 'Unread" 
messages column (in the Threads Pane) indicating there are invisible 
unread messages in the thread.


Is this a SeaMonkey code problem or is it really a problem in the 
Thunderbird code??


If I select 'Shift-K' I would expect that sub-thread to disappear 
(forever) from view, any adjustment to the 'Unread' message number and 
total newsgroup Unread messages number as required and the Cursor to 
move to the next unread message.


If I select 'Ctrl-K' I would expect that entire thread to disappear 
(forever) from view, any adjustment total newsgroup Unread messages 
number (in the Accounts Pane) as required and the Cursor to move to the 
next unread message (i.e. next thread).

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.6 Build identifier: 20210117210643


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.53.6 Build identifier: 20210118013008

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