Re: How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

2010-05-05 Thread Beorc kano

On 5/5/2010 8:14 AM, Mark Hansen wrote:

On 5/4/2010 7:31 PM, chicagofan wrote:

That might not be a bad idea.  I've read of lots of people with profile
problems, and I think many them had to reinstall SM.  I haven't had that
problem, so I can't offer any useful advice.

Hopefully, someone else will chime in with some suggestions.
bj


FYI: Uninstalling/reinstalling SeaMonkey doesn't clean out any problems
which may be in the profile.
But if the profile were misconfigured in the program itself due to an 
error or somesuch during installation, would not uninstalling it 
completely and starting from scratch have a possibility of correcting 
the configuration error?


I'm just now starting my IT classes (after 18 weeks of General ed... 
gotta love University of Phoenix... _), and I'm new to much of the 
more technical aspects of programs and such, so please forgive me if I 
sound ignorant.

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Re: How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

2010-05-04 Thread Beorc kano

On 5/4/2010 2:00 PM, chicagofan wrote:

Beorc Kano wrote:

Beorc Kano wrote:

I would still like to get SM up and running
properly. It's a pretty nifty all-in-one program... I like it. It
reminds me of older programs... kinda endears me to it.


Here's the response I just got from an e-mail to them about your problem:

Invalid credentials means that either the username or the password
(or problably both) are wrong. Please have him check his account data
for typos and/or leading or trailing blanks.


Hadn't thought about leading or trailing blanks, and thought you might
not have either.
bj


Checked for leading/railing blanks, no dice. however, I DID take your 
advice and cleared all the cache, cookies, etc.. Got that done, and 
then, vioala, it worked like a charm with Thunderbird. Unfortunately, SM 
is still being snotty about it... It keeps asking me to make new account 
profiles whenever I go to reply to a message... Pops up the window like 
I am setting up a new newsgroup server connection. At this point, I am 
willing to use Thunderbird until I get SM debugged... I'm close to just 
uninstalling/reinstalling it.

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How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

2010-05-03 Thread Beorc Kano
I've been trying and trying to get a newsgroup reader, so as to have
access to various other functions (blocking messages by certain
obnoxious (or insane) users being one of those functions) that Google
Groups doesn't seem to provide. I found and downloaded both
Thunderbird and Seamonkey... and I can't figure out how to set up the
newsreader to pick up the newsgroup. I've looked through the help
files and FAQ's, and...  nuthin'.

The error message I keep getting when I click the 'Manage my
subscriptions' link is thus;

Failed to connect to server alt.religion.wicca.

I know it can be done, as others tap into the newsgroup with other
newsreaders. I'm just technotarded enough that I can't figure it out.
Any help would be hot.

Thanks guys!
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Re: How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

2010-05-03 Thread Beorc Kano
On May 3, 8:35 am, WLS rafte...@verizonremove.net wrote:
 Beorc Kano wrote:
  I've been trying and trying to get a newsgroup reader, so as to have
  access to various other functions (blocking messages by certain
  obnoxious (or insane) users being one of those functions) that Google
  Groups doesn't seem to provide. I found and downloaded both
  Thunderbird and Seamonkey... and I can't figure out how to set up the
  newsreader to pick up the newsgroup. I've looked through the help
  files and FAQ's, and...  nuthin'.

  The error message I keep getting when I click the 'Manage my
  subscriptions' link is thus;

  Failed to connect to server alt.religion.wicca.

  I know it can be done, as others tap into the newsgroup with other
  newsreaders. I'm just technotarded enough that I can't figure it out.
  Any help would be hot.

  Thanks guys!

 Well, since alt.religion.wicca is a newgroup and not a server. That is
 why you get that error.

 First you have to set up your newsgroup account to connect to a server,
 then subscribe to the alt.religion.wicca newsgroup.

 HTH- Hide quoted text -

 - Show quoted text -

Thanks... I knew I was doing something wrong. How do I figure out
which server to connect to? as i said, i have never done this before,
so it is a bit of a learning experience for me.
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Re: How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

2010-05-03 Thread Beorc Kano
On May 3, 3:33 pm, chicagofan m...@privacy.net wrote:
 Beorc Kano wrote:
  On May 3, 8:35 am, WLSrafte...@verizonremove.net  wrote:
  Beorc Kano wrote:
  I've been trying and trying to get a newsgroup reader, so as to have
  access to various other functions (blocking messages by certain obnoxious
  (or insane) users being one of those functions) that Google Groups
  doesn't seem to provide. I found and downloaded both Thunderbird and
  Seamonkey... and I can't figure out how to set up the newsreader to pick
  up the newsgroup. I've looked through the help files and FAQ's, and...
  nuthin'.

  The error message I keep getting when I click the 'Manage my
  subscriptions' link is thus;

  Failed to connect to server alt.religion.wicca.

  I know it can be done, as others tap into the newsgroup with other
  newsreaders. I'm just technotarded enough that I can't figure it out. Any
  help would be hot.

  Thanks guys!

  Well, since alt.religion.wicca is a newgroup and not a server. That is why
  you get that error.

  First you have to set up your newsgroup account to connect to a server,
  then subscribe to the alt.religion.wicca newsgroup.

  HTH- Hide quoted text -

  - Show quoted text -

  Thanks... I knew I was doing something wrong. How do I figure out which
  server to connect to? as i said, i have never done this before, so it is a
  bit of a learning experience for me.

 Who is your internet service provider?  If they don't provide a free newsgroup
 service, there are a few you can try, or you can pay for a service you may 
 like
 better.

 Here's a link [below] to one of the free news services you could try.  They 
 tell
 you how to set up your newsreader to access their news server.

 http://www.eternal-september.org/

 bj

Thanks, I'll try to get that other one to work. So far, I've
downloaded Seamonkey and Thunderbird, both in an attempt to be able to
use them and newsreaders. I guess i just don't know how to properly
configure it. I don't know what the server address is. I know it's
going to be something so simple and so stupid, and I'll feel like a
'tard, but I figure everyone has to start somewhere, and better late
than never.
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Re: How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

2010-05-03 Thread Beorc Kano

chicagofan wrote:

Beorc Kano wrote:

On May 3, 3:33 pm, chicagofanm...@privacy.net wrote:

Beorc Kano wrote:

On May 3, 8:35 am, WLSrafte...@verizonremove.net wrote:

Beorc Kano wrote:

I've been trying and trying to get a newsgroup reader, so as to have
access to various other functions (blocking messages by certain
obnoxious
(or insane) users being one of those functions) that Google Groups
doesn't seem to provide. I found and downloaded both Thunderbird and
Seamonkey... and I can't figure out how to set up the newsreader
to pick
up the newsgroup. I've looked through the help files and FAQ's,
and...
nuthin'.



The error message I keep getting when I click the 'Manage my
subscriptions' link is thus;



Failed to connect to server alt.religion.wicca.



I know it can be done, as others tap into the newsgroup with other
newsreaders. I'm just technotarded enough that I can't figure it
out. Any
help would be hot.



Thanks guys!



Well, since alt.religion.wicca is a newgroup and not a server. That
is why
you get that error.



First you have to set up your newsgroup account to connect to a
server,
then subscribe to the alt.religion.wicca newsgroup.



HTH- Hide quoted text -



- Show quoted text -



Thanks... I knew I was doing something wrong. How do I figure out which
server to connect to? as i said, i have never done this before, so
it is a
bit of a learning experience for me.


Who is your internet service provider? If they don't provide a free
newsgroup
service, there are a few you can try, or you can pay for a service
you may like
better.

Here's a link [below] to one of the free news services you could try.
They tell
you how to set up your newsreader to access their news server.


http://www.eternal-september.org/


bj


Thanks, I'll try to get that other one to work. So far, I've
downloaded Seamonkey and Thunderbird, both in an attempt to be able to
use them and newsreaders. I guess i just don't know how to properly
configure it. I don't know what the server address is. I know it's
going to be something so simple and so stupid, and I'll feel like a
'tard, but I figure everyone has to start somewhere, and better late
than never.



I don't know what you mean by other one. You have to sign up for an
outside news server, if your ISP doesn't provide one, to get the address
for SM [or Thunderbird] to access the newsgroups. They are useless for
reading newsgroups without a newsgroup service provided by someone.

The server address will be provided by the service you choose. Who is
your ISP?
bj


By other one, i meant the 'eternal-september'. I got into it, and I've 
been moving around on there for a bit, asking questions and such. I 
didn't know about new servers before tonight, so, yeah, that shows how 
new I am to this. I am able to access their newsgroups, for support for 
their news server, but I can't seem to get my username and password to 
validate. i keep getting an 'invalid credentials' error when I set 
Thunderbird or Seamonkey to auto request authentification (which they 
require, as I'm sure you know). I put in my username and password, and I 
am certain that they are correct... I'm just getting error after error 
here... _


But hey, at least I can use the two programs I downloaded (TB and SM) in 
order to troubleshoot those two programs. XD


Is there a waiting period, perhaps? I've tried changing my password, I 
tred with the password they supplied to me, so on and so forth. Maybe I 
should try making a new account?


My ISP is CableOne, sorry, I forgot to put that in the last one. _
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Re: How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

2010-05-03 Thread Beorc Kano

chicagofan wrote:

Beorc Kano wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Beorc Kano wrote:

On May 3, 3:33 pm, chicagofanm...@privacy.net wrote:

Here's a link [below] to one of the free news services you could try.
They tell you how to set up your newsreader to access their news
server.


http://www.eternal-september.org/


bj


Thanks, I'll try to get that other one to work. So far, I've
downloaded Seamonkey and Thunderbird, both in an attempt to be able to
use them and newsreaders. I guess i just don't know how to properly
configure it. I don't know what the server address is. I know it's
going to be something so simple and so stupid, and I'll feel like a
'tard, but I figure everyone has to start somewhere, and better late
than never.



I don't know what you mean by other one. You have to sign up for an
outside news server, if your ISP doesn't provide one, to get the address
for SM [or Thunderbird] to access the newsgroups. They are useless for
reading newsgroups without a newsgroup service provided by someone.

The server address will be provided by the service you choose. Who is
your ISP?
bj


By other one, i meant the 'eternal-september'. I got into it, and I've
been moving around on there for a bit, asking questions and such. I
didn't know about new servers before tonight, so, yeah, that shows how
new I am to this. I am able to access their newsgroups, for support for
their news server, but I can't seem to get my username and password to
validate. i keep getting an 'invalid credentials' error when I set
Thunderbird or Seamonkey to auto request authentification (which they
require, as I'm sure you know). I put in my username and password, and I
am certain that they are correct... I'm just getting error after error
here..._

But hey, at least I can use the two programs I downloaded (TB and SM) in
order to troubleshoot those two programs. XD

Is there a waiting period, perhaps? I've tried changing my password, I
tred with the password they supplied to me, so on and so forth. Maybe I
should try making a new account?

My ISP is CableOne, sorry, I forgot to put that in the last one._



I don't think there's a waiting period. Don't worry about being new to
this, or the questions you ask, because we were ALL there at one time.
:) With a little patience we'll get all the blanks filled in.

Do I understand that you have put the news.eternal-september.org
address, and all the other info required in the SM New Account boxes?
Just trying to figure out where you are in this process. Whether you
mean you have accessed their support at their web site, or you actually
have set up your new SM newsgroup account and are still getting this
error message. In other words, are you beyond this point below [from the
SM Help FAQ]:


Adding a Newsgroup Server [in Sea Monkey your mail  news reader]


If the newsgroup you want to subscribe to is on a different server, you
must
first set up access to that server. [Since it is not on Cable One's server]

To set up an additional newsgroup server, open the File menu in the Mail
window and choose New, then Account.

* Using the Account Wizard, indicate that the new account you want to set
up is a Newsgroup account.

Once you've set up access to the new server, you can subscribe to
newsgroups on that
server. In the Mail window, open the File menu, and choose Subscribe.



Let us know if you've completed the SM new account process with the news
server address and port 119, etc. and we can go from there. Don't give
up. :)
bj





I am to that point, in fact, that's how I got to here. the next step for 
me was to click the 'Automatically request authentication' box. Every 
time I do that, and it pops up the boxes for filling in the username. I 
enter my username, even cut/pasted from my activation e-mail. The next 
box pops up, for the password, and I cut/paste that as well, so make 
sure I get it right. That's when it gives me the error Invalid 
Credentials.


Now, I DID just recently download Greasemonkey and installed a user 
script for Google Groups that allows one to ignore users and the like, 
so, at least in the interim, I don't have to put up with the loony I was 
looking to avoid, but I would still like to get SM up and running 
properly. It's a pretty nifty all-in-one program... I like it. It 
reminds me of older programs... kinda endears me to it.

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Re: How to set up a Newsgroup Subscription

2010-05-03 Thread Beorc Kano

Beorc Kano wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Beorc Kano wrote:

chicagofan wrote:

Beorc Kano wrote:

On May 3, 3:33 pm, chicagofanm...@privacy.net wrote:

Here's a link [below] to one of the free news services you could try.
They tell you how to set up your newsreader to access their news
server.


http://www.eternal-september.org/


bj


Thanks, I'll try to get that other one to work. So far, I've
downloaded Seamonkey and Thunderbird, both in an attempt to be able to
use them and newsreaders. I guess i just don't know how to properly
configure it. I don't know what the server address is. I know it's
going to be something so simple and so stupid, and I'll feel like a
'tard, but I figure everyone has to start somewhere, and better late
than never.



I don't know what you mean by other one. You have to sign up for an
outside news server, if your ISP doesn't provide one, to get the
address
for SM [or Thunderbird] to access the newsgroups. They are useless for
reading newsgroups without a newsgroup service provided by someone.

The server address will be provided by the service you choose. Who is
your ISP?
bj


By other one, i meant the 'eternal-september'. I got into it, and I've
been moving around on there for a bit, asking questions and such. I
didn't know about new servers before tonight, so, yeah, that shows how
new I am to this. I am able to access their newsgroups, for support for
their news server, but I can't seem to get my username and password to
validate. i keep getting an 'invalid credentials' error when I set
Thunderbird or Seamonkey to auto request authentification (which they
require, as I'm sure you know). I put in my username and password, and I
am certain that they are correct... I'm just getting error after error
here..._

But hey, at least I can use the two programs I downloaded (TB and SM) in
order to troubleshoot those two programs. XD

Is there a waiting period, perhaps? I've tried changing my password, I
tred with the password they supplied to me, so on and so forth. Maybe I
should try making a new account?

My ISP is CableOne, sorry, I forgot to put that in the last one._



I don't think there's a waiting period. Don't worry about being new to
this, or the questions you ask, because we were ALL there at one time.
:) With a little patience we'll get all the blanks filled in.

Do I understand that you have put the news.eternal-september.org
address, and all the other info required in the SM New Account boxes?
Just trying to figure out where you are in this process. Whether you
mean you have accessed their support at their web site, or you actually
have set up your new SM newsgroup account and are still getting this
error message. In other words, are you beyond this point below [from the
SM Help FAQ]:


Adding a Newsgroup Server [in Sea Monkey your mail  news reader]


If the newsgroup you want to subscribe to is on a different server, you
must
first set up access to that server. [Since it is not on Cable One's
server]

To set up an additional newsgroup server, open the File menu in the Mail
window and choose New, then Account.

* Using the Account Wizard, indicate that the new account you want to set
up is a Newsgroup account.

Once you've set up access to the new server, you can subscribe to
newsgroups on that
server. In the Mail window, open the File menu, and choose Subscribe.



Let us know if you've completed the SM new account process with the news
server address and port 119, etc. and we can go from there. Don't give
up. :)
bj






I am to that point, in fact, that's how I got to here. the next step for
me was to click the 'Automatically request authentication' box. Every
time I do that, and it pops up the boxes for filling in the username. I
enter my username, even cut/pasted from my activation e-mail. The next
box pops up, for the password, and I cut/paste that as well, so make
sure I get it right. That's when it gives me the error Invalid
Credentials.

Now, I DID just recently download Greasemonkey and installed a user
script for Google Groups that allows one to ignore users and the like,
so, at least in the interim, I don't have to put up with the loony I was
looking to avoid, but I would still like to get SM up and running
properly. It's a pretty nifty all-in-one program... I like it. It
reminds me of older programs... kinda endears me to it.


Oh! One more thing! How do I tell what server the newsgroup is on, when 
looking at a Google Group? If I can get that, maybe I can cut right to 
it without a password. the server I am using currently is 
news.eternal-september.org. They list alt.religion.wicca as accessible 
from their server (as you likely know, having give me their link. :) ).

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