Java SE 6 U38 Ken Rudolph

2013-01-14 Thread Joe Rotello

Ken...

When running Win 7 64bit, you only have to install BOTH Java 32bit and 
64bit IF -- that's IF -- you also run 64bit browsers.


If not, you only need to install the 32bit Java files. Most users do not 
run or install 64bit browsers as they tend to be sluggish even in 64bit 
Win 7 machines like yours...and mine for that matter. The 32bit browsers 
and 32bvit Java run just fine and very fast, in both 32bit Win 7 and 
64bit Win 7.


If you install Java, while the browsers are closed down, and they fail 
to recognize that a new version is installed, then you should delete 
EVERY scrap of Java from the machine, make sure all Java and related 
components are de-installed from the Program and Features applet, then 
do a new install of the latest Java, which is version 7 Update 11 as of 
this message.


Then you will usually find that all is installed and is known to all the 
browsers, and the Java Control Panel applet will also report that the 
latest version is installed and active.


Joe
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Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen, crashing in FF, SM)

2012-08-14 Thread Joe Rotello

On 8/14/2012 6:55 AM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen
  crashing  in FF, SM


With all this discussion of stopping PHP from working, I scratch my head.

My main point was relating the Flash Plug-In crashing in many current FF 
and SM installations, and what was discussed with Adobe staffers 
regarding Flash 11.


We have seen this disable of one, some or all of the mentioned 
standards, Flash, PHP, JavaScript, even Java, happen, was the point, but 
I have no wish or predilection for such to be done, as web havoc with 
a side-order of user fearanoia always ensues.


My quite minor point was that ANY web standard...be it Flash, PHP, 
JavaScript, even Java, etc. can be disabled at one or more points, 
that's all, hence I mentioned it as a side-note to the Flash Plug-In 
crashing in many current FF and SM installations.


Joe
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RE: Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen crashing in FF, SM

2012-08-13 Thread Joe Rotello

RE: Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen crashing in FF, SM

A great many Firefox and a fair reported number of SM users are 
reporting back to Mozilla and Adobe that Flash Plug-In 11.x is crashing 
the Flash Player Plug-In when going to full screen (aka FS) Flash 
display. The normal default size Flah Plug-In appears to work 
satisfactorily for the vast percentage of users and report-backs. The 
crashing when optioning to Flash FS is sometimes 100% repeatable, and at 
other times closing and re-running the web-page or Flash plug-in, then 
again selecting Flash Plug-In FS no longer shows any problem, especially 
for that particular web-site or page. There are also crash reports 
coming in from Apple OS users as well.


So far, very little insider/tech information is forthcoming from any 
source, although Mozilla and Adobe are looking into the respective and 
other apps, and it appears this will be solved.


So far, the Mozilla answer is to uninstall Flash Plug-In 11.x and 
revert back to the last 10.x Flash install, but that's not as likely or 
recommended because 11 solved a few other operational and security 
problems, yet that reversion option may have to be done.


Adobe has signaled that the core app with the problem is indeed Flash 
11.x Plug-In.


JR Personal Reflection Bottom line: End-users who fully and 
intentionally disable the likes of Flash plug-in, PHP, Java and even 
JavaScript browser operations are in reality doing more to damage 
their browser operations and shut themselves out of a great many needful 
and useful web-sites world-wide. Many users who do the above and dwalk 
away from those options then wonder why a great many web-sites and pages 
no longer work or display properly, then start suspecting the browser or 
the OS, etc.


Joe
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Re: Disable PHP ??? (was : Flash 11.x Plug-In Full Screen crashing in FF, SM)

2012-08-13 Thread Joe Rotello

On 8/13/2012 6:52 AM, Philip TAYLOR wrote:


Joe Rotello wrote:


JR Personal Reflection Bottom line: End-users who fully and
intentionally disable the likes of Flash plug-in, PHP, Java and even
JavaScript browser operations are in reality doing more to damage
their browser operations and shut themselves out of a great many needful
and useful web-sites world-wide. Many users who do the above and walk
away from those options then wonder why a great many web-sites and pages
no longer work or display properly, then start suspecting the browser or
the OS, etc.


Whilst I have a /certain/ (but by no means unequivocal) sympathy with
your position, I am completely at a loss to know how a user might seek
to disable ... PHP.  PHP is a server-side technology, just like
ASP and ASP.NET; how can this possibly be disabled client-side ?

I would also argue that the vast majority of those who do the above
and walk away from those options do not wonder why a great many
web-sites and pages no longer work or display properly -- they know 
why, and they are prepared to live with this in order to satisfy their

own security concerns and/or paranoia.


Like it or not, in many modern browsers, esp. those allowing access to 
about all the settings, one can disrupt PHP operations, essentially 
switching PHP execution off. Can be done in FF, for example, have seen 
it accomplished in the OS with Internet Explorer, etc.


Thankfully, people do NOT usually do this, nor should they, yet it can 
be terribly exciting to troubleshoot a bad web experience and find out 
that this kind of PHP disabling has been done.


Yes, indeed, I tend to agree that many of those who do the above know 
full well, or believe they do, of what they are doing, so PHP failures 
or web-disasters should not come as a surprise to them.


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Re: John S Win 7 software or system crashes

2012-08-01 Thread Joe Rotello

On 7/31/2012 11:30 PM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

John S wrote:


Yesterday (30 July) SeaMonkey started crashing on startup. No
details, it just has encountered a problem and must close. I sent
the report to Mozilla. I also stepped back to v. 2.10, and get the
same result. I then downloaded and installed Thunderbird, and get the
same thing. Firefox works, but doesn't do e-mail. I'm hoping to hear
from Mozilla about this problem, but I'd appreciate any help anyone
can give in troubleshooting this. I'm using Windows 7, latest
updates; Dell computer, ACPI multiprocessor.

John...

I run (almost) the same system you do, exception being an ASUS i5 3.6 
GHz 16GB RAM motherboard, right down to the software apps you mention, 
Win 7 Pro 64bit, updated all current.


No problems whatsoever, in fact almost insanely stable.

HOWEVER, in distant past, when I DID have your problem short-term, and 
for others that I have assisted had same basic problem, it was traced to 
either unstable Win 7 system -- corrupt or missing files, usually -- or 
to how I and others had introduced unsavory other software(s) into the 
system.


Joe
Knoxville, TN
Skype: joerotello
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Re: Seamonkey excessive memory usage, et al

2012-05-26 Thread Joe Rotello
Those having rather recent or sudden extreme memory usage in 
Seamonkey, may want to try this possibility that HAS lessened or solved 
Firefox's similar memory problems.


It may work on SM as well, as it's not adjusting part of the browser 
itself, but instead adjusting Java via the Java Plug-In that most all 
browsers use, especially FF and SM.




 Although the memory leak problem appears to have begun with the 
release of Firefox 12, it is actually not Firefox that is causing the 
problem. The problem is your friend and mine, Sun Java, whose concept of 
a next-generation plug in appears to be lag your computer to all hell.


Go to your control panel, double click Java, and review your settings.

There is an option [called] Enable the next-generation java plug-in. 
Make sure you uncheck that.


This fixed my Firefox memory problem (similar to those problems posted) 
immediately.


You must disable the plug in through Java, it will override Firefox 
settings.
I would like to end this by saying I have always hated Java, and regret 
that it is 2012 and that it is still in use. 


*Does this Java related fix ruin or turn off Java usage in Firefox 12, 
or does it just disconnect a probably faulty part of Java ? 

*

*Answer back states:
*

Hi, disabling this option has had no effect on my web browsing 
experience, other than


1.) halving the memory usage by firefox.exe
2.) prevent firefox.exe process from still running after I have closed 
all firefox windows and tabs




Again, this recommended fix may also assist SM browser users, and the 
fix may not adversely affect those of us that want or need Java to work 
in our browsers.


Joe


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Re: NASA live tv feed

2012-03-22 Thread Joe Rotello

This is the Wallops missile ready site, aka Wallops Flight Facility...

http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644

Having had no trouble whatsoever to run this link's video in VLC Media 
Player in Win 7 64bit system, and having worked at such facilities...


And so far, the site loads and runs fine in FF 11, IE 9 32bit, 
SlimBrowser 6.00.081 et al.


I suggest waiting a short time for the site queue to connect you, and if 
nothing happens inside of say one minute max, it may well be that your 
local system is poorly configured or your ISP is locking that site out 
of the DNS.


There's also the probability that the site itself is very busy server 
wise, as concurrent connections are somewhat few.


Joe

On 3/22/2012 3:00 PM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

Subject:
Re: NASA live tv feed
From:
PhillipJones pjon...@kimbanet.com
Date:
3/22/2012 10:47 AM

To:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org


Miles Fidelman wrote:






Thanks for the confirmation.  It would then appear to be a SM p
Tried running the 
http://mfile.akamai.com/18569/live/reflector:59445.asx?bkup=32644 site 
in:


SM
FF
Camino
Opera
Opera next
OmniWeb
Chrome
iCab
Safari
Aurora

all come up with error previously posted.

Its they way they are handling turn off the feed. They are just 
killing the link itself making it appear as it doesn't exist. when the 
should just put a Notice Feed closed.


They need some SeaMonkey Developers to go and show them show it's done 
right!


--
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it
http://www.phillipmjones.net mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com


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Re: [VML] Works in IE not in SM support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 73/57

2012-01-22 Thread Joe Rotello

On 1/22/2012 4:25 AM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

Subject:
[VML] Works in IE not in SM
From:
NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid
Date:
1/22/2012 12:16 AM

To:
support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org


On 01/21/2012 02:32 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

  http://chez-momo.fr/mona-lisa.html
  
  Did someone know why SM cannot render the picture ?
  


Because VML (Vector Markup Language) is one of the most proprietary, 
useless and long ignored non-standards around.


It should not be used as it's been long superseded by firm, 
major-percentage-in-use standards that are used by perhaps 85 to 99 % of 
all browsers, graphics applications and so forth.


Stop battering SM and other browsers and condemning the browser, when it 
is especially poor designer and end-user demands that show up how 
ineffective and problematic that VML was, has been and is. Is it any 
wonder that it was never adopted as a real and useful standard, grossly 
in favor of the better SVG and others ?


Joe
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Re: [VML] Works in IE not in SM support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 73/57

2012-01-22 Thread Joe Rotello

Subject:
[VML] Works in IE not in SM
From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid
Date:1/22/2012 12:16 AM

To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
On 01/21/2012 02:32 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
http://chez-momo.fr/mona-lisa.html

Did someone know why SM cannot render the picture ? 

Because VML (Vector Markup Language) is one of the most proprietary, 
useless and long ignored non-standards around.


It should not be used as it's been long superseded by firm,
major-percentage-in-use standards that are used by perhaps 85 to 99 % of 
all browsers, graphics applications and so forth.


Stop battering SM and other browsers and condemning the browser, when it 
is especially poor designer and end-user demands that show up how 
ineffective and problematic that VML was, has been and is. Is it any 
wonder that it was never adopted as a real and useful standard, grossly 
in favor of the much better SVG and others ?


Joe

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Re: can i have both sm and firefox?

2011-11-11 Thread Joe Rotello

In response to: Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 71, Issue 34

Re: can i have both sm and firefox?

The original sender of that question may or may not be whom the Email 
says, but as for the answer...


In the case of Windows XP and/or Windows 7 OS...

We have in the past and currently now do use SeaMonkey latest and 
Firefox latest on our Windows 7 64bit machines, and in the past used 
both SeaMonkey older version and Firefox older version on both XP and 
Win 7 machines.


In sum total, maybe 11 machines needed to be run this way (for testing 
web-sites with various web-browsers), and in all cases things ran just 
fine...no conflicts were noted, etc. Each browser also had many add-ons 
and other utilities that ran with each browser, and again nothing out of 
the ordinary happened no earthquakes (unusual ones) were generated 
and the sun still rose and set as usual.


Just install each into its own folder, and all should be running fine.

Hope this information is of value.

Joe

--

On 11/11/2011 8:53 AM On a whim, Jim pounded out on the keyboard

Houston -- I have a problem --

I am a U.S. government employee.  To view our pay statements and make
changes, we have to use the site www.employeeexpress.gov.  I have SM and
IE 9.0 on my PC.  Employee Express will work with neither of these
(sigh).  It requires Firefox or IE 7.0 or 8.0.

Can I install FF, just for the purpose of accessing this site, and still
keep SM?  If so, how do I do that?  I can't go back to IE 8.0.  I wish I
never put IE 9.0 on my PC -- I hate it.

TIA --

Jim,

I don't usually post to these groups, but I tried to respond to your
email address, and the owner of the web site replied and said you were
using a fake address on his site.  You may want to check closer before
picking a random email address.

You can reply to my email for an answer to your question, paying
attention to the info below my name.

Terry


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Re: can i have both sm and firefox?

2011-11-11 Thread Joe Rotello

In response to: Re: support-seamonkey Digest, Vol 71, Issue 34

Re: can i have both sm and firefox?

The original sender of that question may or may not be whom the Email 
says, but as for the answer...


In the case of Windows XP and/or Windows 7 OS...

We have in the past and currently now do use SeaMonkey latest and 
Firefox latest on our Windows 7 64bit machines, and in the past used 
both SeaMonkey older version and Firefox older version on both XP and 
Win 7 machines.


In sum total, maybe 11 machines needed to be run this way (for testing 
web-sites with various web-browsers), and in all cases things ran just 
fine...no conflicts were noted, etc. Each browser also had many add-ons 
and other utilities that ran with each browser, and again nothing out of 
the ordinary happened no earthquakes (unusual ones) were generated 
and the sun still rose and set as usual.


Just install each into its own folder, and all should be running fine.

Hope this information is of value.

Joe

--

On 11/11/2011 8:53 AM On a whim, Jim pounded out on the keyboard

Houston -- I have a problem --

I am a U.S. government employee.  To view our pay statements and make
changes, we have to use the sitewww.employeeexpress.gov.  I have SM and
IE 9.0 on my PC.  Employee Express will work with neither of these
(sigh).  It requires Firefox or IE 7.0 or 8.0.

Can I install FF, just for the purpose of accessing this site, and still
keep SM?  If so, how do I do that?  I can't go back to IE 8.0.  I wish I
never put IE 9.0 on my PC -- I hate it.

TIA --

Jim,

I don't usually post to these groups, but I tried to respond to your
email address, and the owner of the web site replied and said you were
using a fake address on his site.  You may want to check closer before
picking a random email address.

You can reply to my email for an answer to your question, paying
attention to the info below my name.

Terry


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Re: Deleting Emails - bern...@nospam.com

2011-08-19 Thread Joe Rotello

On 8/18/2011 8:45 PM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

bern...@nospam.com  wrote:

  I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form
  2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay
  about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1
  at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3
  second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before
  in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but
  all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I
  highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I
  bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3
  second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie

The three second delay may well be what most all other Email tools do.

When one deletes Email, the Email tool goes out to the web-server/Email 
server and deletes the files there.


One would think that when deleting multiple Emails, say three of them, 
the server visit is made but once, not three separate times.


You may be seeing that delay.

Joe
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Re: Deleting Emails - bern...@nospam.com

2011-08-19 Thread Joe Rotello

On 8/18/2011 8:45 PM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

bern...@nospam.com  wrote:

  I just noticed something odd. My computer updated Seamonkey form
  2.2 to 2.3 After the update, when I delete email, it seems to delay
  about 3 seconds for every email on the list I delete if I delete 1
  at a time. I highlight a message, click delete, and there is a 3
  second delay before it deletes the message. I noticed this before
  in 2.2 when I deleted the first message, there would be a delay but
  all others would delete very quickly after the first one as I
  highlighted them and hit delete. Seems pretty strange to me. If I
  bulk delete by selecting 2 or more they all delete after that 3
  second delay. Compacting the folder did not help. Bernie

The three second delay may well be what most all other Email tools do.

When one deletes Email, the Email tool goes out to the web-server/Email 
server and deletes the files there.


One would think that when deleting multiple Emails, say three of them, 
the server visit is made but once, not three separate times.


You may be seeing that delay.

Joe
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Re: new 2.3 - Firefox updates too often

2011-08-06 Thread Joe Rotello
Repeated it below, but whomever is freaking out on were told that 
Firefox is not suitable for business use. better sit down and realize 
that they were likely told / ordered what they would say. MS owns most 
of corporate America...period. And no, that's not a blanket 
statement...the likes of Firefox scares MS corporate.


Firefox updates FAST, PROPERLY, SAFELY and can be set to automatically 
update so fast -- on a decent speed machine, be it laptop or desktop, 
that who the #*#* cares if Firefox updates once every two weeks, two 
months, or two years?


Somebody is passing FUD around, likely a competitor or a frightened IT 
admin. It doesn't matter if Firefox is used in a corporate, small 
business, professional at home or common every-day end-user atmosphere.


Get a life, people !

BTW, Firefox RARELY -- almost almost-never -- updates every two weeks, 
and that's a fact.


Joe

 On 8/6/2011 1:40 PM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:
Interviewed by CNN on 05/08/2011 11:17, Bill Davidsen told the world: 
Some commercial users have complained that they can't do a QA cycle that 
often, and according to the reports were told that Firefox is not 
suitable for business use. I can dig out the link for anyone who hasn't 
learned to use a search engine, I saw it in either networkworld.com or 
slashdot.

This guy at Ars Technica had a different spin on the issue:

http://arstechnica.com/business/news/2011/06/firefox-update-policy-the-enterprise-is-wrong-not-mozilla.ars/

Where we can read: six week cycle is the goal.


Therefore the end-user MUST install a new version each six weeks.
He have other things to do 
This is why he will decide: I will stay on my version for at least one 
year ... i am not part of an SM testing group.


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Re: SM (and Thunderbird) needs a full fledged manual.

2011-06-27 Thread Joe Rotello

On 6/25/2011 3:20 AM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

On Fri, 24 and 25 Jun 2011 , Rostyslaw Lewyckyj And Philip Chee discussed:

  SM needs a full fledged manual.

Thunderbird is crowsourcing a manual. Looks quite impressive.

http://blogs.mozillamessaging.com/docs/2010/12/08/thunderbird-floss-manual-done/
http://en.flossmanuals.net/thunderbird/
http://en.flossmanuals.net/firefox/

Phil


One main trouble with these manuals, be they crowdsourced or not, 
although the idea has good merit...


Does this/these apparent new Thunderbird, SeaMonkey or Firefox manuals 
cover up to, say, Thunderbird 3.1.11 or at least 3.1, SeaMonkey as of 
2.1, or Firefox as of 5.0 ?


Just wondering, as so many of these manuals or instructions we see were 
not updated or published last since late 2010 or so.


Far FAR too much has changed for many manuals to be of real value to 
most users ?


Joe
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Re: SM (and Tunderbird) needs a full fledged manual.

2011-06-25 Thread Joe Rotello

On 6/25/2011 3:20 AM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

On Fri, 24 and 25 Jun 2011 , Rostyslaw Lewyckyj And Philip Chee discussed:

  SM needs a full fledged manual.

Thunderbird is crowsourcing a manual. Looks quite impressive.

http://blogs.mozillamessaging.com/docs/2010/12/08/thunderbird-floss-manual-done/
http://en.flossmanuals.net/thunderbird/
http://en.flossmanuals.net/firefox/

Phil


One main trouble with these manuals, be they crowdsourced or not, 
although the idea has good merit...


Does this/these apparent new Thunderbird, SeaMonkey or Firefox manuals 
cover up to, say, Thunderbird 3.1.11 or at least 3.1, SeaMonkey as of 
2.1, or Firefox as of 5.0 ?


Just wondering, as so many of these manuals or instructions we see were 
not updated or published last since late 2010 or so.


Far FAR too much has changed for many manuals to be of real value to 
most users ?


Joe
Skype: joerotello
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Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14

2011-05-29 Thread Joe Rotello

Re: weatherspark.com stopped working with 2.0.14 

Although one is also speaking of Linux IO believe...

Might have something to do with the fact that that whole site is still 
in Beta test, although just to note, it was or is seemingly working 
properly with Windows XP, Win 7 32/64bit, MS IE, Firefox 4.01 and Chrome 
10.x


So far, that is.

Joe
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Re: Consider identifying the OS

2011-05-10 Thread Joe Rotello

Just a reminder...that will assist us all...

Even if it is a short text, perhaps best in the Subject line, and also 
maybe in the first line of the message...


*PLEASE*  consider identifying the OS you are using?  Win XP ?  Win 7 ?  
Linux ?  Mac ?


Anything reasonable ID wise would be infinitely preferable to no ID at all.

All readers might get a MUCH faster grasp on the precise message ideas, 
needs and problem-solving expressed in the messages.


Joe

P.S. Mine is Win 7 64bit/irefox 4/Seamonkey 2. The one with the fat cat 
(no, not me, Tinker the cat) sitting next to it most of the time.

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Re: PLEASE ID the operating system in Subject line ?

2010-12-16 Thread Joe Rotello
Is it possible that we can all return to identifying the OS we are using 
SeaMonkey on, perhaps in the Subject line ?


It would assist both the user and others that can assist or comment if 
that was known right in the Subject line...something like:


Subject: [Win] [Linux] [] [subject text]

Perhaps exemplified...
Subject: Linux It chases cats out of the room

Even though the message body might EVENTUALLY give some hint as to what 
OS we are discussing or having a trouble with, why make all users HAVE 
to read deeply every message just to find out ?


Just an outburst of potential common sense...

Joe
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Re: PLEASE ID the operating system in Subject line ?

2010-12-16 Thread Joe Rotello
Is it possible that we can all return to identifying the OS we are using 
SeaMonkey on, perhaps in the Subject line ?


It would assist both the user and others that can assist or comment if 
that was known right in the Subject line...something like:


Subject: [Win] [Linux] [] [subject text]

Perhaps exemplified...
Subject: Linux SM chases cats out of the room

Even though the message body might EVENTUALLY give some hint as to what 
OS we are discussing or having a trouble with, why make all users HAVE 
to read deeply every message just to find out ?


Just an outburst of potential common sense...

Joe
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PLEASE ID the operating system in Subject line ?

2010-12-16 Thread Joe Rotello
Is it possible that we can all return to identifying the OS we are using 
SeaMonkey on, perhaps in the Subject line ?


It would assist both the user and others that can assist or comment if 
that was known right in the Subject line...something like:


Subject: [Win] [Linux] [] [subject text]

Perhaps exemplified...
Subject: Linux It chases cats out of the room

Even though the message body might EVENTUALLY give some hint as to what 
OS we are discussing or having a trouble with, and even though the 
problem MIGHT also exist in other OS versions of SM, why make all users 
HAVE to read deeply every message just to find out ?


Hopefully, just an outburst of potential common sense...

Joe
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Re: Copies of PLEASE IS the system...

2010-12-16 Thread Joe Rotello

On 12/16/2010 3:00 PM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

Yet I had to read each of your three messages to see if anything
different appeared.

-- David E. Ross

Apologies for the extra copies.

Almost time it's more to laugh...the Email kept reporting that 
lists.mozilla.org server kept bouncing the Email back. Didn't TELL me 
that the first two * actually * made it through, only that they were 
refused, or so the feedback made it seem.


Anyway, in my insanity defense, I tried it the trusty third time, and it 
worked.


Joe
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Playing .wmv files in email

2010-12-07 Thread Joe Rotello
On 12/7/2010 1:25 AM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org 
wrote:Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2010 16:41:52 +1030


From:u...@domain.invalid
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Playing .wmv files in email
Message-ID:6rmdnr9kyv23twdrnz2dnuvz_hmdn...@mozilla.org
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

I'm running XP SP3 and SM 2.0.10 and I can't get .wmv (or any videos for
that matter) to open by double clicking on the attachment.
I have to save them to view them.
How can I fix this? Should I install a third party video player or
something?

1. Make sure that the XP File Associations are set to play the various video 
file formats when properly selected.

2. Strongly consider one of the best OpenSource media players in existence, VLC 
Media Player (http://www.videolan.org). VLC works and has worked superbly with 
XP, Vista, Win 7 in the various Windows 32bit and 64bit versions.

In many ways, web browsers love VLC Media Player. Likewise, in many ways it 
solves playing problems for web browsers, and of course for full-time use as your Windows 
media player in general.

Joe Rotello
Knoxville, TN

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Anyone else having problems with zap2it?

2010-10-09 Thread Joe Rotello
We and a great many others that are and have been using ZAP2IT.COM for 
many years and with many browsers -- currently now including SeaMonkey 
2.x, Firefox 3.6.x and now Firefox 4, IE 5 through IE 8 and 9, 
SlimBrowser 5 -- and many OS systems.


We and a great many others have had few if any problems with ZAP2IT.COM 
-- with any problems seen seemingly dwelling in arcane MS IE 6, 7, 8, 9 
settings and design factors, not in the other browsers nor on the 
ZAP2IT.COM pages.


As is usual, if the ZAP2IT.COM site was in that dire of straits as far 
as HTML / XHTML / PHP and who knows what else coding problems, then not 
many people could ever have used it, and it would have collapsed years ago.


May I and we ZAP2IT.COM users suggest looking more into your own OS, 
your browsers that are in use, and the fact that in many instances, the 
computer end-user has mangled their own systems and/or browsers to the 
extent of having manifold problems.


Joe

On 10/9/2010 3:25 AM, support-seamonkey-requ...@lists.mozilla.org wrote:

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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2010 11:20:17 -0700 (PDT)
From: JeffMjef...@email.com
To:support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
Subject: Re: Anyone else having problems with zap2it?


DSF wrote:

There are many other web sites where I save pages this way.

I'll bet when you check those other pages for crappiness
they look more like this
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://www.webstandards.org/2008/10/02/dowehaveawinner/
than like this
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http://tvlistings.zap2it.com/tvlistings/ZCGrid.do?zipcode=33570


Zap2it.com is the only place I've found where this happens.


If those morons knew how to construct a Web page.
*that* would be a start.
Over 100 XHTML errors on a single page is just pathetic.

You could send them the link to their validation results
and tell them they need to pull their heads out of their rear
orifices.


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