Re: Languages & Dictionaries

[RicklesP]

RicklesP wrote:

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rick-shar wrote:
Just upgraded 2 Win10 laptops to SM 2.53.5 (thanks loads, devs!), in 
the UK. On my own laptop, I have the British English Dictionary 
(Marco Pinto) v2.68, which lists in the Add-On Mgr under the category 
'Dictionaries'.  On my wife's laptop, before the SM version update, 
she'd complained about only having the English (US) language 
available for spell-checking, which causes issues whenever composing 
emails for UK recipients.


On that laptop, I've added the latest Marco Pinto Dictionary v2.90 
from the Add-Ons site, but it only lists as an Extension, not a 
Dictionary, so can't be selected for spell-checking. 


That happens if you install a WebExtension-based dictionary in 
SeaMonkey, as mentioned under "Extensions (Add-ons) and Themes" in the 
release notes.  It seems even the ones hosted on 
addons.thunderbird.net may be WebExtensions now but don't work with 
SeaMonkey - see e.g. 
<https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1555116>.


I'm currently using v2.68 of British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto). 
You can download older versions by following the "See complete version 
history" link near the bottom of 
<https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-GB/seamonkey/addon/british-english-dictionary-2/>. 
  There, 2.68 is explicitly mentioned as being a legacy extension, and 
there's mention of this 2.70 already being a WebExtension.  It's not 
clear which 2.69 is, so that might perhaps work, or it might be that 
2.68 is the last that works in current SeaMonkey.


If you right-click the "Download Now" button, you can select "Save 
Link Target As..." to download the .xpi file for the extension rather 
than immediately installing it.  That way you've got it in case you 
need to install it again in future.  From about:addons, you can 
install an extension from an .xpi file by clicking the cog icon near 
the top right and selecting "Install Add-on From File..."


On my own laptop, the v2.68 installed doesn't appear to have any 
means of updating as-is, but it is working as expected.


It might be that's the latest which actually works with SeaMonkey.  Or 
it may be related to the fact that update checks for the main 
application don't work.  As far as I can see, 2.69 is the only newer 
version which might possibly work - so you could try downloading and 
installing that as above, but be prepared to revert back to 2.68 if it 
doesn't work.



So it looks like I have 2 separate issues.  Any suggestions?



Mark, etc,
Now that I've had time to try, I've downloaded v2.68 and (?)successfully 
installed it into my wife's laptop.  It shows up in the Add-On Mgr 
screen as a loaded Dictionary, but is not available to select anywhere. 
Whether composing a new email or as the default language under 
Properties - Appearance - Spelling, the only entry in her SM v2.53.5 
install is for the default English-US.  And of course, the link for 'add 
more dictionaries' takes me to the Thunderbird add-ons download page, 
for what that's worth.


I really don't want to abandon SM, but if my English wife can't compose 
emails in her own language in the mail client, what's the point?  I've 
been a loyal Netscape/Mozilla/SM user for some time, but I'm not a 
developer.  My skill set is in system administration, not programming.




My thanks to all who replied with additional suggestions, but it has 
been sorted, finally.  Not only did the v2.68 install didn't work even 
after SM and then the laptop restarts, but attempting to use the 
'download more dictionaries' link didn't do anything--no web page, no 
nothing.  With no other changes, I installed v2.53.5.1 on top of the 
current setup, and the v2.68 English-UK dictionary is now listed as 
such, and is now set as the default.  Composition tests with spell check 
work as you'd expect, that way.
I have no idea what was corrupted, but the latest install did something 
and all is now well.


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Re: Languages & Dictionaries

[RicklesP]

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rick-shar wrote:
Just upgraded 2 Win10 laptops to SM 2.53.5 (thanks loads, devs!), in 
the UK. On my own laptop, I have the British English Dictionary (Marco 
Pinto) v2.68, which lists in the Add-On Mgr under the category 
'Dictionaries'.  On my wife's laptop, before the SM version update, 
she'd complained about only having the English (US) language available 
for spell-checking, which causes issues whenever composing emails for 
UK recipients.


On that laptop, I've added the latest Marco Pinto Dictionary v2.90 
from the Add-Ons site, but it only lists as an Extension, not a 
Dictionary, so can't be selected for spell-checking. 


That happens if you install a WebExtension-based dictionary in 
SeaMonkey, as mentioned under "Extensions (Add-ons) and Themes" in the 
release notes.  It seems even the ones hosted on addons.thunderbird.net 
may be WebExtensions now but don't work with SeaMonkey - see e.g. 
.


I'm currently using v2.68 of British English Dictionary (Marco Pinto). 
You can download older versions by following the "See complete version 
history" link near the bottom of 
. 
  There, 2.68 is explicitly mentioned as being a legacy extension, and 
there's mention of this 2.70 already being a WebExtension.  It's not 
clear which 2.69 is, so that might perhaps work, or it might be that 
2.68 is the last that works in current SeaMonkey.


If you right-click the "Download Now" button, you can select "Save Link 
Target As..." to download the .xpi file for the extension rather than 
immediately installing it.  That way you've got it in case you need to 
install it again in future.  From about:addons, you can install an 
extension from an .xpi file by clicking the cog icon near the top right 
and selecting "Install Add-on From File..."


On my own laptop, the v2.68 installed doesn't appear to have any means 
of updating as-is, but it is working as expected.


It might be that's the latest which actually works with SeaMonkey.  Or 
it may be related to the fact that update checks for the main 
application don't work.  As far as I can see, 2.69 is the only newer 
version which might possibly work - so you could try downloading and 
installing that as above, but be prepared to revert back to 2.68 if it 
doesn't work.



So it looks like I have 2 separate issues.  Any suggestions?



Mark, etc,
Now that I've had time to try, I've downloaded v2.68 and (?)successfully 
installed it into my wife's laptop.  It shows up in the Add-On Mgr 
screen as a loaded Dictionary, but is not available to select anywhere. 
Whether composing a new email or as the default language under 
Properties - Appearance - Spelling, the only entry in her SM v2.53.5 
install is for the default English-US.  And of course, the link for 'add 
more dictionaries' takes me to the Thunderbird add-ons download page, 
for what that's worth.


I really don't want to abandon SM, but if my English wife can't compose 
emails in her own language in the mail client, what's the point?  I've 
been a loyal Netscape/Mozilla/SM user for some time, but I'm not a 
developer.  My skill set is in system administration, not programming.


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Languages & Dictionaries

[RicklesP]

Just upgraded 2 Win10 laptops to SM 2.53.5 (thanks loads, devs!), in the 
UK. On my own laptop, I have the British English Dictionary (Marco 
Pinto) v2.68, which lists in the Add-On Mgr under the category 
'Dictionaries'.  On my wife's laptop, before the SM version update, 
she'd complained about only having the English (US) language available 
for spell-checking, which causes issues whenever composing emails for UK 
recipients.


On that laptop, I've added the latest Marco Pinto Dictionary v2.90 from 
the Add-Ons site, but it only lists as an Extension, not a Dictionary, 
so can't be selected for spell-checking.  On my own laptop, the v2.68 
installed doesn't appear to have any means of updating as-is, but it is 
working as expected.


So it looks like I have 2 separate issues.  Any suggestions?

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Re: Calendar SM 2.53.4 W 10 Pro

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Samuel S wrote:

RicklesP wrote:

Samuel S wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/25/20 9:42 AM, Samuel S wrote:
Hello - did the calendar go away, I cannot find it or have I missed 
something in the update?


Can anyone assist me in this?

TIA - bo1953


By go away meaning?

1) You don't have Events & Tasks in the Menu bar.
2) You don't see it in the Add-ons Manager.
3) Have Events & Tasks in the Menu bar, but didn't select it and 
then select Calendar.

4) Other

You may want to peruse the Known Issues section in the release notes 
on Lightning and other distributed extensions not appearing.


<https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.4/>



Walt - it is #1 and #3.

I did look at 'Known Issues' and did not see any reference there 
unless it was glaring right at me and I could not see it... which is 
possible, for sure.


TIA - bo1953

Bo1953, try this:
*-in the browser, type in the address bar: 'about:config' & see the 
tab contents change to a list of text lines

*-in the search frame above the listings, copy/paste this setting name:

'extensions.installedDistroAddon.{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}' 
and press 'Enter'

*-in the tab, see only a line which begins with what you searched for
*-right-click on that entry, and select 'Reset' from the menuSamua
*-open the Mail window, verify 'Events and Tasks' menu item is visible
*-Click on Events and Tasks, then select 'Calendar' from the menu
*-Verify the calendar appears in a new tab in the Mail window

Since the first release where Lightning was included be default, I 
occasionally have issues when installing a newer version of SM, where 
the extension checker plugin doesn't like Lightning so wants to 
disable/remove it.  When I reset that setting, all is well again.




RicklesP,

Thank you for the recommendation.

That line of code does not exist (that I can find) in my system, so this 
has left me perplexed.


Shall I re-install SM?

TIA - bo1953

Bo1953,
Silly question: when you copy/pasted the string value I gave previously, 
that starts with "extensions.", did you by chance include the leading 
and trailing single-quote marks as well?  If so, nothing will show up. 
Failing that, the about:config listing is normally sorted alphabetically 
by the Preference Name column, so you should be able to simply scroll 
down to see the entry, if it's there.  On my default SM install of 
v2.53.4, I have 3 entries that begin "extensions.installedDistroAddon.", 
so you should see SOMETHING like that in yours.


As for reinstalling SM, I just install the newer versions on top of 
whatever previous is already in place, and other than this Lightning 
glitch, don't have any issues.  I'd say you probably won't have any 
problems, but by all means back up your info as the first step, just in 
case.


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Re: Calendar SM 2.53.4 W 10 Pro

[RicklesP]

Samuel S wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 9/25/20 9:42 AM, Samuel S wrote:
Hello - did the calendar go away, I cannot find it or have I missed 
something in the update?


Can anyone assist me in this?

TIA - bo1953


By go away meaning?

1) You don't have Events & Tasks in the Menu bar.
2) You don't see it in the Add-ons Manager.
3) Have Events & Tasks in the Menu bar, but didn't select it and then 
select Calendar.

4) Other

You may want to peruse the Known Issues section in the release notes 
on Lightning and other distributed extensions not appearing.






Walt - it is #1 and #3.

I did look at 'Known Issues' and did not see any reference there unless 
it was glaring right at me and I could not see it... which is possible, 
for sure.


TIA - bo1953

Bo1953, try this:
*-in the browser, type in the address bar: 'about:config' & see the tab 
contents change to a list of text lines

*-in the search frame above the listings, copy/paste this setting name:

'extensions.installedDistroAddon.{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}' 
and press 'Enter'

*-in the tab, see only a line which begins with what you searched for
*-right-click on that entry, and select 'Reset' from the menu
*-open the Mail window, verify 'Events and Tasks' menu item is visible
*-Click on Events and Tasks, then select 'Calendar' from the menu
*-Verify the calendar appears in a new tab in the Mail window

Since the first release where Lightning was included be default, I 
occasionally have issues when installing a newer version of SM, where 
the extension checker plugin doesn't like Lightning so wants to 
disable/remove it.  When I reset that setting, all is well again.


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Events calendar grouped with Mail tab?

[RicklesP]

Now that Lightning is packaged with SeaMonkey (thank you!!), and 
selecting the Events & Tasks 'Calendar' option opens a second tab in the 
Mail window for that calendar along with the Mail tab, is there a way to 
set the Mail view so that both open as a group, same as can be done with 
multiple tabs in the web browser?  Can't find anything in the GUI for this.


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Re: Links in emails not sending?

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mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:




Messages arrive as HTML.  In the message preview window of SM, with 
the message displayed, I see a sentence, with 2 words underlined, 
and hovering over that changes the cursor as expected for a 
hyperlink. But clicking does nothing, and I do not see the expected 
URL of the link in the status bar at the bottom of the SM mail 
window.  If I view the message source (Ctrl-U), I can find the 
section which includes the on-screen text.





Here's the beginning of the html area after the mail headers:

"--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64


--=_cb8726f93e1fb726332572ff60596c58
Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable"

That was followed by a lot of formatting and content, leading to the 
code below.  On-screen was a green rectangle with the words 'Renew 
Now' centered.  That link also didn't work.  In the code below was a 
URL which included a token specifically for me to access my account at 
AVG--I've removed that part of the URL, but the 'Renew Now' is in the 
last section of text quoted.



  
 style=3D"text-align:center;vertical-align:top;">
   style=3D"margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;">
   style=3D"mso-hide:all;wid=

th:auto;">
 cellspacing=3D"0" sty=
le=3D"mso-hide:all;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;" width=3D"180" 
heigh=

t=3D"50">
   
 style=3D"text-alig=
n:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;vertical-align:middle;color:#f= 

f;display:block;background-color:#3da32e;border-radius:4px;" 
width=3D"180" =

height=3D"50" class=3D"td-cta-tbl">   
http://www.avg.com/cart?addtocart=3Dgsr.0.0.0.12=3<>
" 
style=3D"text-align:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;= 

margin:0 
auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;text-decoration:none;display:in=
line-block;padding:0;padding-top:15px;padding-bottom:15px;width:180px;" tar= 

get=3D"_blank">sans-serif"=
  size=3D"3" 
style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;text-dec=
oration:none;">style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#ff=

;">Renew Now
   
 
   
 
 
   

Does this suggest anything?


In the "href=" part, there are a couple of spaces between the opening 
quote and the start of the URL. A quick experiment sending myself an 
email with:

   http://www.example.com/;>Click Here
has exactly the effect you describe - the text is recognised as a link 
(blue underline and cursor changes to a hand), but the URL is not 
recognised (not shown in the status bar, and clicking has no effect). 
Note that I had to manually craft that email, since inserting a link 
SeaMonkey's HTML mail editor strips the extra spaces from the href!


An HTML document with the same link opened in SeaMonkey's browser works 
fine, and clicking it leads to .


The HTML5 specification [1] says that the value of the href attribute 
must be "a valid URL potentially surrounded by spaces". I haven't found 
a clear statement in specs for earlier HTML versions.


Although the unnecessary presence of those spaces in the href is a bit 
odd, it appears they shouldn't strictly cause any problem so the fact 
they do may be a bug in SeaMonkey mail (which isn't present in the 
browser). The difference in behaviour between mail and browser does seem 
a bit odd, as I thought they used the same rendering engine, so perhaps 
this is intentional for some reason.


Possibly related to bug 680352, in that whatever blocks links without a 
protocol might also block links with the leading spaces (since the link 
doesn't start with a protocol). That may well be intentional as a 
security protection, since a link to "www.example.com" actually 
references a file relative to the email, not "http://www.example.com;!


[1] 
 



Makes perfect sense, syntax is everything in text-based media.  That 
explains the second email, don't suppose you have any insights for the 
first one I described, with [x] references called out in the html code?

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Re: Links in emails not sending?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Rick & Sharon wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


In this case, it seems clear that the sender is to blame. They're 
using footnotes and putting the URLs in the notes, not hyperlinking 
them in the body text.


OK Paul, can you decipher the other one I had this with?  Here's the 
beginning of the html area after the mail headers:


...

That was followed by a lot of formatting and content, leading to the 
code below.  On-screen was a green rectangle with the words 'Renew 
Now' centered.  That link also didn't work.  In the code below was a 
URL which included a token specifically for me to access my account at 
AVG--I've removed that part of the URL, but the 'Renew Now' is in the 
last section of text quoted.


...

   
http://www.avg.com/cart?addtocart=3Dgsr.0.0.0.12=3<>
" 
style=3D"text-align:center;font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;= 

margin:0 
auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust:none;text-decoration:none;display:in=
line-block;padding:0;padding-top:15px;padding-bottom:15px;width:180px;" tar= 

get=3D"_blank">sans-serif"=
  size=3D"3" 
style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#3da32e;text-dec=
oration:none;">style=3D"font-size:16px;line-height:18px;color:#ff=

;">Renew Now

...

Does this suggest anything?


That much looks like a valid link to me (fair warning: I'm not a web 
designer, I could've overlooked something)...


Are you using an ad blocker that would prevent SM from honoring your 
click and going to the linked page?



No ad blocker in SM.  That's why I'm surprised this is happening at all.
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Casting from SM?

[RicklesP]

Apologies if this had been covered previously but my searches have come 
up empty.  Be sure, I love SM and have done for many years.


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:51.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/51.0 SeaMonkey/2.48


I am interested in casting content from my browser on this tablet device 
to the smart TVs in my house.  The Add-ons searches have discovered a 
few Cast options, but none even mentioning SM, only FF.  Anyone have any 
experience with making one of them work with SM?  I have Chrome 
installed but only use it for that one thing.


Suggestions?
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