Re: 2.46 update not working

[EE]

Desiree wrote:

On 12/27/2016 8:10 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to
2.46
automatically.  Help!


The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK
again. I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46
which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?)


Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software Installation.

Uncheck 'Automatically Check for Updates.'


Thank you.  I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0
that an update has failed so disastrously.  This really scares me, since
I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey.


Yep.  I've been using Sea Monkey since Mozilla abandoned its predecessor
the Mozilla Suite and never had problems other than maybe a minor one
occasionally when upgrading.  Upgrade to 2.46 was a disaster on my
default profile but ok on a newish profile with only two extensions.  I
can't understand why we were not warned that no checking of extension
compatibility with this version would be done and that NO extensions
being used that were converted via LemonJuice's SeaMonkey extension
converter would work and that disaster would ensue if we tried to update
without first uninstalling all converted extensions.   I'm left
wondering why SeaMonkey is being continued since it is now Fx and no
point in it.


I did not use an automatic update.  I prefer to get the new installer 
and install manually.  I have not had problems with extensions, and most 
of mine have been converted or tweaked to install into SeaMonkey.  I 
also have a habit of changing the max version for SeaMonkey in 
install.rdf to 3.0 to stop the add-on from being marked incompatible.


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Ken Rudolph]

Edmund Wong wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
automatically.  Help!


Hi Ken,

Can you clarify what operating system you're running 2.40 on?


Win-7.  But I haven't checked back here for a few days since the reload 
of SM 2.40 worked fine and I haven't had any problems since.  I'll check 
frequently to see when ver. 2.47 is released since I don't have 
automatic updates anymore.  I suppose I should try to update at that 
time for security purposes etc.  I hope they fix the problems by then.


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Extension checking is in the Mozilla backend and changed significatly between 
2.40 and 2.46 (mostly not for the better). Signing requirements are turned off 
but still some checks for sideloaded apps are done. Extensions might get 
disabled but from tests reenabling them again worked. No reinstall needed.


And SeaMonkey is not Fx or I would probably looking for another browser :)

FRG

Desiree wrote:

On 12/27/2016 8:10 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Yep.  I've been using Sea Monkey since Mozilla abandoned its predecessor the 
Mozilla Suite and never had problems other than maybe a minor one occasionally 
when upgrading.  Upgrade to 2.46 was a disaster on my default profile but ok 
on a newish profile with only two extensions.  I can't understand why we were 
not warned that no checking of extension compatibility with this version would 
be done and that NO extensions being used that were converted via LemonJuice's 
SeaMonkey extension converter would work and that disaster would ensue if we 
tried to update without first uninstalling all converted extensions.   I'm 
left wondering why SeaMonkey is being continued since it is now Fx and no 
point in it.


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Desiree]

On 12/27/2016 8:10 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
automatically.  Help!


The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK
again. I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46
which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?)


Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software Installation.

Uncheck 'Automatically Check for Updates.'


Thank you.  I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0
that an update has failed so disastrously.  This really scares me, since
I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey.

Yep.  I've been using Sea Monkey since Mozilla abandoned its predecessor 
the Mozilla Suite and never had problems other than maybe a minor one 
occasionally when upgrading.  Upgrade to 2.46 was a disaster on my 
default profile but ok on a newish profile with only two extensions.  I 
can't understand why we were not warned that no checking of extension 
compatibility with this version would be done and that NO extensions 
being used that were converted via LemonJuice's SeaMonkey extension 
converter would work and that disaster would ensue if we tried to update 
without first uninstalling all converted extensions.   I'm left 
wondering why SeaMonkey is being continued since it is now Fx and no 
point in it.

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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Richard Alan]

Edmund Wong wrote:

> Ken Rudolph wrote:
>> 1)  POP e-mail not updating 2)  password manager crashes program
>> 
>> I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
>> that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to
>> 2.46 automatically.  Help!
> 
> Can you clarify what operating system you're running 2.40 on?

His user agent string says Windows 7.

Yours says Windows 8.1.
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Edmund Wong]

Ken Rudolph wrote:
> 1)  POP e-mail not updating
> 2)  password manager crashes program
> 
> I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
> that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
> automatically.  Help!
> 
Hi Ken,

Can you clarify what operating system you're running 2.40 on?

Edmund
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[David E. Ross]

On 12/27/2016 8:48 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote:
> 1)  POP e-mail not updating
> 2)  password manager crashes program
> 
> I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure 
> that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 
> automatically.  Help!
> 

Profile:  Once you try using 2.46, you might not be able to use your
profile when you revert to 2.40.  Restore your profile from the last
backup prior to installing 2.46.  You do have a backup, do you not?

Block automatic updates:

1.  On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit > Preferences].

2.  On the left side of the Preferences window (under Category), select
[Advanced > Software Installation].

3.  On the Software Inatallation pane under SeaMonkey, select or clear
the checkboxes as you wish.

4.  Select the OK button.

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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

How about filing a bug for the two issues. #2 is likely profile related and #1 
might be also. If yes this won't go away.


Ken Rudolph wrote:

This really scares me, since I don't know what I'd do


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Hawker]

On 12/27/2016 1:17 PM, Adrian Kalla wrote:

W dniu 12/27/2016 o 07:10 PM, Ken Rudolph pisze:

Thank you.  I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0
that an update has failed so disastrously.  This really scares me, since
I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey.



To be honest: as no one reported similar problems, it is very likely
that you either have incompatible addons installed (tried safe mode with
all addons disabled?) or something in your profile is broken (tried
temporarily a new profile?).



Actually that's not true. Read above - those issues are known.
Regarding the data manager is that seems to be an issue for large old 
profiles and it just temporarily locks up then is fine.
I fixed mine by going though and getting rid of a ton of old legacy 
entries going back to Netscape 3.x that I didn't need. Now it works fine.


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Adrian Kalla]

W dniu 12/27/2016 o 07:10 PM, Ken Rudolph pisze:
> Thank you.  I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0
> that an update has failed so disastrously.  This really scares me, since
> I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey.


To be honest: as no one reported similar problems, it is very likely
that you either have incompatible addons installed (tried safe mode with
all addons disabled?) or something in your profile is broken (tried
temporarily a new profile?).
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Ken Rudolph]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
automatically.  Help!


The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK
again. I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46
which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?)


Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software Installation.

Uncheck 'Automatically Check for Updates.'


Thank you.  I'll be honest, this is the first time since Netscape 1.0 
that an update has failed so disastrously.  This really scares me, since 
I don't know what I'd do without SeaMonkey.


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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

Ken Rudolph wrote:

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
automatically.  Help!

The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK again.  
I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46 which I don't 
want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?)



Edit->Preferences->Advanced->Software Installation.

Uncheck 'Automatically Check for Updates.'

FRG
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Re: 2.46 update not working

[Ken Rudolph]

Ken Rudolph wrote:

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46
automatically.  Help!

The reload and re-install of 2.40 worked, and everything is working OK 
again.  I still don't know how to stop the automatic updating to 2.46 
which I don't want to do until I know it works (maybe the next update?)


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2.46 update not working

[Ken Rudolph]

1)  POP e-mail not updating
2)  password manager crashes program

I need to go back to 2.40 and have downloaded it.  How can I make sure 
that it will use my profile, and how can I stop it from updating to 2.46 
automatically.  Help!


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