Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[Ed Mullen]

On 1/22/2017 at 6:50 PM, Ed Mullen's prodigious digits fired off with 
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On 1/22/2017 at 3:31 PM, EE's prodigious digits fired off with great
aplomb:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


I see that; it seems to be a recent development. The second line is
especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works, but multiple
*bold words* apparently no longer do.


Or perhaps it's the inclusion of a sentence terminator that causes this.

*One* word
*Two words*
*Two. Words* with a period


All of those examples appear bold.



Another imperfectly implemented "feature."  Sigh.



And, on second thought, why make the effort?  Just send HTML. That works 
a whole lot more reliably.


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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[Ed Mullen]

On 1/22/2017 at 3:31 PM, EE's prodigious digits fired off with great aplomb:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


I see that; it seems to be a recent development. The second line is
especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works, but multiple
*bold words* apparently no longer do.


Or perhaps it's the inclusion of a sentence terminator that causes this.

*One* word
*Two words*
*Two. Words* with a period


All of those examples appear bold.



Another imperfectly implemented "feature."  Sigh.

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Re: Plain-text formatting [Was: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46]

[Ed Mullen]

On 1/22/2017 at 5:16 PM, Ray_Net's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22-01-17 20:25:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


I see that; it seems to be a recent development. The second line
is especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works, but
multiple *bold words* apparently no longer do.


Or perhaps it's the inclusion of a sentence terminator that causes
this.

*One* word
*Two words*
*Two. Words* with a period


Saving and opening a draft saves waiting for an email to make the
round trip before seeing the results ;o)

It seems to be having anything other than a-z (even an accented
character) adjacent to the opening or closing asterisk that prevents
the text from being formatted:
*Several words with no numbers*
*Several words ending with a number 1*
*1 number and several words*
*Several words ending with punctuation!*
*Several words ending with an accented á*
*==*

It's not a problem having any of those characters in the middle of
the text, just not at the start or end:
*Several words with 1 number in the middle*
*Several words with an accented á in the middle*
*xx*

Not sure what people want to do with that...


Well done!

And now we know it wasn't the OP's fault.


Therefore, it's better to write in HTML . plain-text with
_*/bold/italic/underline gadget/*_  IS NOT USABLE !


I understand that old-timers (circa the 80s/early 90s) are hung up on 
plain text.  But since starting to use corporate email in the 80s the 
vast majority of my email experience has been HTML.  Virtually no one I 
communicate with uses plain text and hasn't in decades.  And 99.9% of 
commercial email is HTML.  I just don't get the aversion to it.  I mean, 
c'mon, it's frigging 2017, not 1982!


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Re: Plain-text formatting [Was: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46]

[Ray_Net]

  
  
Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22-01-17
  20:25:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com
  wrote:
  
  
  Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:
  
  
  I see that; it seems to be a recent
development. The second line

is especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works,
but

multiple *bold words* apparently no longer do.

  
  
  Or perhaps it's the inclusion of a sentence terminator that
  causes
  
  this.
  
  
  *One* word
  
  *Two words*
  
  *Two. Words* with a period
  


Saving and opening a draft saves waiting for an email to make
the

round trip before seeing the results ;o)


It seems to be having anything other than a-z (even an accented

character) adjacent to the opening or closing asterisk that
prevents

the text from being formatted:

*Several words with no numbers*

*Several words ending with a number 1*

*1 number and several words*

*Several words ending with punctuation!*

*Several words ending with an accented á*

*==*


It's not a problem having any of those characters in the middle
of

the text, just not at the start or end:

*Several words with 1 number in the middle*

*Several words with an accented á in the middle*

*xx*


Not sure what people want to do with that...

  
  
  Well done!
  
  
  And now we know it wasn't the OP's fault.
  
  

Therefore, it's better to write in HTML
  . plain-text with  bold/italic/underline gadget 
  IS NOT USABLE !
  

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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


I see that; it seems to be a recent development. The second line is
especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works, but multiple
*bold words* apparently no longer do.


Or perhaps it's the inclusion of a sentence terminator that causes this.

*One* word
*Two words*
*Two. Words* with a period


All of those examples appear bold.

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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[EE]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22-01-17 09:38:

Daniel wrote:


By-the-By, your attempt at using the * to cause the "header" to
appear in Bold is incorrect because, I think, you have the second *
on a line all by itself, rather than at the end on the text that you
wished to highlight.


Works fine here, though of course the OP's message shows as his
original HTML unless you force your display to plain text. His coding
does place the "unbold" tag after the line break, but in HTML that
doesn't matter.

=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=


As a general rule, I find SM does not honor bold, italic, and similar
markings in plain text when they straddle line breaks. Each line must
be separately bolded, italicized, etc., thus:

*=*
*Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46*
*=*

and not thus:

*=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=*


Evenwhile ithout line-break, your bold exemple is not in *bold*


I see that; it seems to be a recent development. The second line is
especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works, but multiple
*bold words* apparently no longer do.

Your "bold words" phrase actually does appear bold.  The remark with the 
equal signs above and below does not appear bold.


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Re: Plain-text formatting [Was: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46]

[Paul B. Gallagher]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


I see that; it seems to be a recent development. The second line
is especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works, but
multiple *bold words* apparently no longer do.


Or perhaps it's the inclusion of a sentence terminator that causes
this.

*One* word
*Two words*
*Two. Words* with a period


Saving and opening a draft saves waiting for an email to make the
round trip before seeing the results ;o)

It seems to be having anything other than a-z (even an accented
character) adjacent to the opening or closing asterisk that prevents
the text from being formatted:
*Several words with no numbers*
*Several words ending with a number 1*
*1 number and several words*
*Several words ending with punctuation!*
*Several words ending with an accented á*
*==*

It's not a problem having any of those characters in the middle of
the text, just not at the start or end:
*Several words with 1 number in the middle*
*Several words with an accented á in the middle*
*xx*

Not sure what people want to do with that...


Well done!

And now we know it wasn't the OP's fault.

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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[Chris Ilias]

On 2017-01-22 3:31 AM, Daniel wrote:

By-the-By, your attempt at using the * to  cause the "header" to appear
in Bold is incorrect ...



He didn't attempt that; he posted in HTML. ;)

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Re: Plain-text formatting [Was: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46]

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

I just wrote:


I see that; it seems to be a recent development. The second line
is especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works, but
multiple *bold words* apparently no longer do.


Or perhaps it's the inclusion of a sentence terminator that causes
this.

*One* word
*Two words*
*Two. Words* with a period


Saving and opening a draft saves waiting for an email to make the round 
trip before seeing the results ;o)


It seems to be having anything other than a-z (even an accented 
character) adjacent to the opening or closing asterisk that prevents the 
text from being formatted:

*Several words with no numbers*
*Several words ending with a number 1*
*1 number and several words*
*Several words ending with punctuation!*
*Several words ending with an accented á*
*==*

It's not a problem having any of those characters in the middle of the 
text, just not at the start or end:

*Several words with 1 number in the middle*
*Several words with an accented á in the middle*
*xx*

Not sure what people want to do with that...

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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[Paul B. Gallagher]

I just wrote:


I see that; it seems to be a recent development. The second line is
especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works, but multiple
*bold words* apparently no longer do.


Or perhaps it's the inclusion of a sentence terminator that causes this.

*One* word
*Two words*
*Two. Words* with a period

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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22-01-17 09:38:

Daniel wrote:


By-the-By, your attempt at using the * to cause the "header" to
appear in Bold is incorrect because, I think, you have the second *
on a line all by itself, rather than at the end on the text that you
wished to highlight.


Works fine here, though of course the OP's message shows as his
original HTML unless you force your display to plain text. His coding
does place the "unbold" tag after the line break, but in HTML that
doesn't matter.

=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=


As a general rule, I find SM does not honor bold, italic, and similar
markings in plain text when they straddle line breaks. Each line must
be separately bolded, italicized, etc., thus:

*=*
*Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46*
*=*

and not thus:

*=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=*


Evenwhile ithout line-break, your bold exemple is not in *bold*


I see that; it seems to be a recent development. The second line is 
especially surprising. Your individual word *bold* works, but multiple 
*bold words* apparently no longer do.


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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[Ray_Net]

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22-01-17 09:38:

Daniel wrote:


By-the-By, your attempt at using the * to cause the "header" to
appear in Bold is incorrect because, I think, you have the second *
on a line all by itself, rather than at the end on the text that you
wished to highlight.


Works fine here, though of course the OP's message shows as his 
original HTML unless you force your display to plain text. His coding 
does place the "unbold" tag after the line break, but in HTML that 
doesn't matter.


=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=


As a general rule, I find SM does not honor bold, italic, and similar 
markings in plain text when they straddle line breaks. Each line must 
be separately bolded, italicized, etc., thus:


*=*
*Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46*
*=*

and not thus:

*=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=*


Evenwhile ithout line-break, your bold exemple is not in *bold*
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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Daniel wrote:


By-the-By, your attempt at using the * to  cause the "header" to
appear in Bold is incorrect because, I think, you have the second *
on a line all by itself, rather than at the end on the text that you
wished to highlight.


Works fine here, though of course the OP's message shows as his original 
HTML unless you force your display to plain text. His coding does place 
the "unbold" tag after the line break, but in HTML that doesn't matter.


=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=


As a general rule, I find SM does not honor bold, italic, and similar 
markings in plain text when they straddle line breaks. Each line must be 
separately bolded, italicized, etc., thus:


*=*
*Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46*
*=*

and not thus:

*=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=*

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Re: Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[Daniel]

On 22/01/2017 11:22 AM, JMK wrote:

*=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=
*
I have noticed this issue happening with messages that have a signature
attachment added from a (.html) file.  The messages in question have a
"washed out" look, as if they are being viewed thru an opaque filter.

Did not have this problem in prior versions of SM.

Has anyone reported this issue?

Is there a fix?


Regards,

j...@restoreamericanliberty.com
www.RestoreAmericanLiberty.com
Liberty Depends Upon Virtue


It seems to me what you might be experiencing is an incorrectly located 
signature marker, -- , i.e. a line containing two dashes followed by a 
space only.


Properly coded e-mail programs identify that as the end of the message 
and expect what follows is just a sig file which need not be quoted in 
replies.


I believe that has been a long standing problem with HTML formatted 
e-mails where the sig file marker is (incorrectly) included with-in the 
message envelop rather than with-in the sig file itself.


Or something like that anyway. ;-)

By-the-By, your attempt at using the * to  cause the "header" to appear 
in Bold is incorrect because, I think, you have the second * on a line 
all by itself, rather than at the end on the text that you wished to 
highlight.


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.46 Build identifier: 20161213183751

or
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501

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Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.4 and v2.46

[JMK]

  
  
=
Archived Email Messages Faded Out in SM v2.40 and v2.46
=
  
  I have noticed this issue happening with messages that have a
  signature attachment added from a (.html) file.  The messages in
  question have a "washed out" look, as if they are being viewed
  thru an opaque filter.
  
  Did not have this problem in prior versions of SM.
  
  Has anyone reported this issue?  
  
  Is there a fix?
  
  
  Regards,
  
  j...@restoreamericanliberty.com
  www.RestoreAmericanLiberty.com
  Liberty Depends Upon Virtue

  

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