Re: Email bounces
Bonnell Frost wrote: Please write your message above the signature area. Please do not put your message in the signature area. What is the name of your ISP? JAS -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email bounces
[Followup set to mozilla.support.seamonkey] On 4/21/2016 8:45 AM, Bonnell Frost wrote: "" He did intend to however. His intended message was in the "signature" block. His problem is a "NON-FUNCTIONAL" email address. 1. https://duckduckgo.com/html/?q=%22skybeam.org%22=1 reports "skybeam.org is a parked domain (last time we checked)." 2. I pinged "skybeam.org" and received below: Pinging skybeam.org [208.68.50.108] with 32 bytes of data: Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Request timed out. Ping statistics for 208.68.50.108: Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 0, Lost = 4 (100% loss), Mr. Frost should contact his ISP to resolve. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Email bounces
E. -- I am getting all windows 7 seamonkey email since 5 March bounced. I had some computer problems and had to a restart, since then done a LOT of restarts. I would like to get the bounce fixed. I don't know how to check email on server. No local contacts that might help available. I can email on newsgroups. The edit entry on taskbar normally requires "pop.everyone.net" and "STMP.everyone.net", the latter for sending. My bar has only the latter, the first sets up receiving and is missing. Does anyone know how to fix this, and maybe my bouncing email? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Email bounces
Bonnell Frost wrote: Edmund Wong wrote: Edmund Wong wrote: Hi, They weren't generated properly at all. Currently fixing them (though, README is online). Once again, sorry for the fubar there.. Edmund I believe I've fixed this issue. Edmund -- When my correspondents try so sent me email, it bounces. I don't think that there is a message, will check. Bounces started when I had too much trash and other space occupied; has been cleaned. Since 05 March. Please, any one who can help me access the server, give me some clews ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Email bounces
Edmund Wong wrote: Edmund Wong wrote: Hi, They weren't generated properly at all. Currently fixing them (though, README is online). Once again, sorry for the fubar there.. Edmund I believe I've fixed this issue. Edmund -- I am getting all windows 7 seamonkey email since 5 March bounced. I had some computer problems and had to a restart, since then done a LOT of restarts. I would like to get the bounce fixed. I don't know how to check email on server. No local contacts that might help available. I can email on newsgroups. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bounces?
On 21/08/2015 9:17 AM, Keith Whaley wrote: If I recall correctly, it was outgoing. I say that because I was sending the message to Support (@ whereever)... for assistance. Definitelu outgoing. Question No. 3: Why do you, David, send me a question that when I reply to it, it gets refused because you have an invalid return address? keith Answer No. 3: Probably because David does not want you to send your question to him directly, he wants you to post your questions to the list/newsgroup/whatever, so everybody gets to read them, and respond to them, just like I've done here! -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150223174142 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.33 Build identifier: 20150215202114 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bounces?
On 8/20/2015 4:17 PM, Keith Whaley wrote [in part]: If I recall correctly, it was outgoing. I say that because I was sending the message to Support (@ whereever)... for assistance. Definitelu outgoing. If the problem appears with outgoing messages, you are composing them HTML-formatted. In HTML, div /div bracket a block of content for some purpose (e.g., a different font, different margins). However, you might be displaying the messages as plain-text, which exposes the HTML. Without seeing an actual example of your problem #2, I cannot guess what is happening. -- David E. Ross The Crimea is Putin's Sudetenland. The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia. See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bounces?
If I recall correctly, it was outgoing. I say that because I was sending the message to Support (@ whereever)... for assistance. Definitelu outgoing. Question No. 3: Why do you, David, send me a question that when I reply to it, it gets refused because you have an invalid return address? keith - Original Message - From: David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Bounces? On 8/20/2015 12:11 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: divWhat dows this mean to me?/div div/div Now I have two questions: #1 is: What does div mean when it appears before my message text? There's also /div which I take to mean 'close div', but what is div? #2: If a copy of my message appears on screen, sometimes I see the words +keith_w bounces, or words to that effect. I assume this should be addressed to me, for me to actually DO something about it... but WHAT? I haven't a clue. TIA for any assistance, keith whaley Is that for outgoing messages or incoming messages? -- David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bounces?
Keith Whaley wrote: If I recall correctly, it was outgoing. I say that because I was sending the message to Support (@ whereever)... for assistance. Definitelu outgoing. Question No. 3: Why do you, David, send me a question that when I reply to it, it gets refused because you have an invalid return address? Lots of people here -- myself included -- use fake addresses to defeat the spambots. If you reply to the newsgroup, it's not a problem. Nobody wants or expects you to write back to their private addresses, because then your discussion is secret and the solutions are secret. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bounces?
On 8/20/2015 4:17 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: If I recall correctly, it was outgoing. I say that because I was sending the message to Support (@ whereever)... for assistance. Definitelu outgoing. Question No. 3: Why do you, David, send me a question that when I reply to it, it gets refused because you have an invalid return address? keith - Original Message - From: David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org Sent: Thu, 20 Aug 2015 17:52:16 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: Bounces? On 8/20/2015 12:11 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: divWhat dows this mean to me?/div div/div Now I have two questions: #1 is: What does div mean when it appears before my message text? There's also /div which I take to mean 'close div', but what is div? #2: If a copy of my message appears on screen, sometimes I see the words +keith_w bounces, or words to that effect. I assume this should be addressed to me, for me to actually DO something about it... but WHAT? I haven't a clue. TIA for any assistance, keith whaley Is that for outgoing messages or incoming messages? I use a fake address to prevent spammers from harvesting it for their flood of unwanted E-mail. If you want my real address, either expand the headers of one of my messages or else look at the source. My real address is in the Organization header field in a form that I hope defeats its use if harvested by automatic scripts. My E-mail messages use my real E-mail address. But then I know with whom I am communicating, and I do not expect they are affiliated with spammers. I also have two other E-mail addresses for use when I send E-mail messages to organizations or individuals who might indeed be involved with spam. -- David E. Ross The Crimea is Putin's Sudetenland. The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia. See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bounces?
On 08/20/2015 03:11 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: divWhat dows this mean to me?/div div/div Now I have two questions: #1 is: What does div mean when it appears before my message text? There's also /div which I take to mean 'close div', but what is div? #2: If a copy of my message appears on screen, sometimes I see the words +keith_w bounces, or words to that effect. I assume this should be addressed to me, for me to actually DO something about it... but WHAT? I haven't a clue. TIA for any assistence, keith whaley 1. It looks like the message is displaying the message source. div is an HTML5 tag. See [HTML div tag]http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_div.asp 2. No clue either -- Linux Mint 17.2 Rafaela | KDE 4.14.2 | Thunderbird 38.2.0 Go Bucs! [Visit Pittsburgh]http://www.visitpittsburgh.com/ [Pittsburgh Renaissance Festival]http://www.pittsburghrenfest.com/ One users useless feature, is a useful feature to another ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Bounces?
divWhat dows this mean to me?/div div/div Now I have two questions: #1 is: What does div mean when it appears before my message text? There's also /div which I take to mean 'close div', but what is div? #2: If a copy of my message appears on screen, sometimes I see the words +keith_w bounces, or words to that effect. I assume this should be addressed to me, for me to actually DO something about it... but WHAT? I haven't a clue. TIA for any assistence, keith whaley ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Bounces?
On 8/20/2015 12:11 PM, Keith Whaley wrote: divWhat dows this mean to me?/div div/div Now I have two questions: #1 is: What does div mean when it appears before my message text? There's also /div which I take to mean 'close div', but what is div? #2: If a copy of my message appears on screen, sometimes I see the words +keith_w bounces, or words to that effect. I assume this should be addressed to me, for me to actually DO something about it... but WHAT? I haven't a clue. TIA for any assistence, keith whaley Is that for outgoing messages or incoming messages? -- David E. Ross The Crimea is Putin's Sudetenland. The Ukraine will be Putin's Czechoslovakia. See http://www.rossde.com/editorials/edtl_PutinUkraine.html. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What does sender support-seamonkey-bounces.... mean? (WAS:Re: New message. WAS Re: Password Manager)
... that sender uses an invalid sender mail address Hi, I am afraid it might be some more complicated. I also see such dev-apps-seamonkey-bounces+rainerbielefeld_nurng=bielefeldundbuss...@lists.mozilla.org, even in the confirmation mail that I am a subscriber for that list. I will ask mailmanager Best Regards Rainer Bielefeld ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: What does sender support-seamonkey-bounces.... mean? (WAS:Re: New message. WAS Re: Password Manager)
Rainer Bielefeld wrote: ... that sender uses an invalid sender mail address Hi, I am afraid it might be some more complicated. I also see such dev-apps-seamonkey-bounces+rainerbielefeld_nurng=bielefeldundbuss...@lists.mozilla.org, even in the confirmation mail that I am a subscriber for that list. I will ask mailmanager Best Regards Rainer Bielefeld I think any bounce messages from subscriber addresses (e.g. if an address doesn't exist, or mailbox is full, etc.) go to that address, instead of to the original sender. The list manager might just ignore such messages, or some mailing lists I've seen automatically unsubscribe addresses which continually bounce for more than a certain time. The copy of a message sent to you has the address you mention in its headers. If it couldn't be delivered for some reason, your mail server (or an intermediate server if it didn't even get that far) would send a message to that address describing the problem. The list software can then deal with the problem, without bothering the original sender who probably doesn't want to be bothered with a whole pile of delivery failure messages every time they post to the list. Mark. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
What does sender support-seamonkey-bounces.... mean? (WAS:Re: New message. WAS Re: Password Manager)
Keith Whaley schrieb: the words Sender : support-seamonkey support-seamonkey-bounces+keith_w=dslextreme@lists.mozilla.org Hi Keith Whaley, please do not hijack other threads for your questons. Concerning your question: I think reason for such a bounces-address is that sender uses an invalid sender mail address in his account settings for that news server. Best regards Rainer Bielefeld ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. chinagirl with questions about marlon brandon -- Gertjan DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD, UNTIE! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
GeraldJan wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. chinagirl with questions about marlon brandon hello goodmorning! thank i appreciate that thank you youŕe welcome -- Gertjan DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD, UNTIE! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. Your crossposting noted... :-) The .test group is for testing your newsreader. Most of the posting in mozilla.test, and at least the batch in the last few hours, is from the GeraldJan person. This person has stated s/he is taking medication for ... well, you might have seen one of those posts. Message filters should work. Regarding bouncing, there is none from the news server; however, you might want to watch your From: area and make sure you aren't also emailing a copy to a list-subscriber. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. Your crossposting noted... :-) The .test group is for testing your newsreader. Most of the posting in mozilla.test, and at least the batch in the last few hours, is from the GeraldJan person. This person has stated s/he is taking medication for ... well, you might have seen one of those posts. Message filters should work. Regarding bouncing, there is none from the news server; however, you might want to watch your From: area and make sure you aren't also emailing a copy to a list-subscriber. thanx -- Gertjan DYSLEXICS OF THE WORLD, UNTIE! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. So has it been repaired? I'm kinda tired of all the spam in my email from the list, since I subscribed yesterday, and I am ready to unsubscribe. LOL! -- SeaMonkey - openSUSE 11.3 Linux - 1.8GHz CPU - 2GB RAM Get openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/114/en Firefox Support: http://support.mozilla.com Profile Manager: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
WLS wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. So has it been repaired? I'm kinda tired of all the spam in my email from the list, since I subscribed yesterday, and I am ready to unsubscribe. LOL! Easy solution: set a filter where From = u...@mozilla-xp.com and the action is to mark the message as read. (If you subscribe to the mailing list, the action should be to mark as junk, and of course junk messages will instantly jump to the trash folder) When reading the group, use N to jump to the next unread message, and you'll always skip over the spam. If you display only threads with unread, you won't even see most of it in the list of messages. I haven't seen any of his crap since I set the filter a week ago. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WLS wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. So has it been repaired? I'm kinda tired of all the spam in my email from the list, since I subscribed yesterday, and I am ready to unsubscribe. LOL! Easy solution: set a filter where From = u...@mozilla-xp.com and the action is to mark the message as read. (If you subscribe to the mailing list, the action should be to mark as junk, and of course junk messages will instantly jump to the trash folder) When reading the group, use N to jump to the next unread message, and you'll always skip over the spam. If you display only threads with unread, you won't even see most of it in the list of messages. I haven't seen any of his crap since I set the filter a week ago. Thanks Paul. I already have filters set for xp-com, GeraldJan, and km, and only subscribed to the list yesterday to see if I would experience the spurious bounce problem. No need to mark the spam as junk, since I plan to unsubscribe. -- SeaMonkey - openSUSE 11.3 Linux - 1.8GHz CPU - 2GB RAM Get openSUSE: http://software.opensuse.org/114/en Firefox Support: http://support.mozilla.com Profile Manager: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Profile_Manager ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. Your crossposting noted... :-) The .test group is for testing your newsreader. Most of the posting in mozilla.test, and at least the batch in the last few hours, is from the GeraldJan person. This person has stated s/he is taking medication for ... well, you might have seen one of those posts. Message filters should work. Regarding bouncing, there is none from the news server; however, you might want to watch your From: area and make sure you aren't also emailing a copy to a list-subscriber. 1) What do you mean by 'watch your From: area' ??? Did you mean to write 'To: area'. I am sure that I am NOT addressing a separate copy of my postings to anywhere but the newsgroups, unless I am specifically and intentionally CCing to some individual. However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. Just to be sure that something did not flip a bit in the mailing list subscription roster, I went to the SeaMonkey web pages and did an unsubscribe from the mailing list. That put up a message on the browser screen that 'a message has been sent'. But I did not get any confirmation or error message in my mailbox regarding this unsubscribe action. Nevertheless I did receive another e-mail bounce message for the preceding later posting : --- Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:49:16 -0500 From: MDaemon at fts.vcl.sld.cu mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Reply-To: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Subject: Your message can not be delivered To: urj...@bellsouth.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: urj...@bellsouth.net Message-ID: mdaemon007120020049.aa4916...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Actual-From: mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu X-Return-Path: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=1102-0049-16-PART-BREAK The following data may contain sections which represent BASE64 encoded file attachments. These sections will be unreadable without MIME aware tools. Seek your system administrator if you need help extracting any files which may be embedded within this message. --1102-0049-16-PART-BREAK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Delivery of the attached message: From : urj...@bellsouth.net To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:40:22 -0400 Subject: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-) would violate local account restrictions. This message was not delivered. .--. Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ - So it seems that the unsubscribe did not repair anything. 2) Yes GeraldJan figures prominently in the list of postings to mozilla.test from the last several hours, and days. But he is not the only poster frequently there from the last several days! -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: WLS wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. So has it been repaired? I'm kinda tired of all the spam in my email from the list, since I subscribed yesterday, and I am ready to unsubscribe. LOL! Easy solution: set a filter where From = u...@mozilla-xp.com and the action is to mark the message as read. (If you subscribe to the mailing list, the action should be to mark as junk, and of course junk messages will instantly jump to the trash folder) When reading the group, use N to jump to the next unread message, and you'll always skip over the spam. If you display only threads with unread, you won't even see most of it in the list of messages. I haven't seen any of his crap since I set the filter a week ago. That doesn't repair the problem. It just sweeps it under the rug, so to speak. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Snip . . . . However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. Snipped . . . None of my occasional newsgroup posts have bounced. Shouldn't they, if they are also automatically forwarded to the mailing list? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
After sending a number of these to the offending party : I do not care. MDaemon at fts.vcl.sld.cu wrote: Delivery of the attached message: From : p.tay...@rhul.ac.uk To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Tue, 18 Oct 2011 11:15:27 +0100 Subject: Re: Plug In Container? would violate local account restrictions. This message was not delivered. all further communications from that end ceased. You may wish to try the same. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. Your crossposting noted... :-) Is it necessary to retain the crossposting? Regarding bouncing, there is none from the news server; however, you might want to watch your From: area and make sure you aren't also emailing a copy to a list-subscriber. 1) What do you mean by 'watch your From: area' ??? Did you mean to write 'To: area'. Yeah, you're right. Your To: area. Is there only the newsgroup(s) listed? Not any email addresses? I am sure that I am NOT addressing a separate copy of my postings to anywhere but the newsgroups, unless I am specifically and intentionally CCing to some individual. However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. That is true. Just to be sure that something did not flip a bit in the mailing list subscription roster, I went to the SeaMonkey web pages and did an unsubscribe from the mailing list. That put up a message on the browser screen that 'a message has been sent'. But I did not get any confirmation or error message in my mailbox regarding this unsubscribe action. Nevertheless I did receive another e-mail bounce message for the preceding later posting : Let's examine this bounce. --- Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:49:16 -0500 From: MDaemon at fts.vcl.sld.cu mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu So how is your newsgroup post getting to a mailer daemon in Cuba? Reply-To: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu [snip] From : urj...@bellsouth.net You. To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:40:22 -0400 To: that dainierlt address in Cuba. I'm rather certain that the mozilla support group did not add that address to your post! This message was not delivered. Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ - So it seems that the unsubscribe did not repair anything. No, it is in your configuration somewhere. Check your account settings for your bellsouth account, to look for a copy-to that includes the Cuban address. If you read Spanish, have a look at the sld.cu web site. Are you associated in any way? Info-Med ? -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Snip . . . Nevertheless I did receive another e-mail bounce message for the preceding later posting : --- Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:49:16 -0500 From: MDaemon at fts.vcl.sld.cu mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Reply-To: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Subject: Your message can not be delivered To: urj...@bellsouth.net X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: urj...@bellsouth.net Message-ID: mdaemon007120020049.aa4916...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Actual-From: mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu X-Return-Path: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Snip . . . Delivery of the attached message: From : urj...@bellsouth.net To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:40:22 -0400 Subject: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-) would violate local account restrictions. This message was not delivered. Snip . . . Hmmm . . . The bounce message seems to come from Cuba. How does that square with postings to the Test or Support servers? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: No, it is in your configuration somewhere. Check your account settings for your bellsouth account, to look for a copy-to that includes the Cuban address. Oh, and add your own email address as a CC: then look in that received mail headers for the Cuban address as another TO or CC. If it is a BCC you wouldn't see it. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem
Larry wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Snip . . . . However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. Snipped . . . None of my occasional newsgroup posts have bounced. Shouldn't they, if they are also automatically forwarded to the mailing list? When the, whatever, mechanism that forwards/mirrors a newsgroup posting to the mailing list creates the list email message , it includes an Errors-To: line in the header of the message. This is supposed to be the address to which any bounce messages by a receiving mail system get sent to. Messages for: an overflowing mailbox, automatic 'on vacation' messages (?), mailbox doesn't exist (account shut down, but no unsubscribe sent to the list), and any other sundry reasons. The Errors-To: address is generally to the list administrator and the message does NOT go back to the newsgroup poster! So, NO, as a newsGROUP poster you should never see a newsLIST bounce message. And that exactly seems to be the problem here. Why am I getting these bounce messages, and how do I get the problem resolved/corrected. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: . Your crossposting noted... :-) Is it necessary to retain the crossposting? No, and I have removed it, assuming that you read mozilla.support.seamonkey Regarding bouncing, there is none from the news server; however, you might want to watch your From: area and make sure you aren't also emailing a copy to a list-subscriber. 1) What do you mean by 'watch your From: area' ??? Did you mean to write 'To: area'. Yeah, you're right. Your To: area. Is there only the newsgroup(s) listed? Not any email addresses? I am sure that I am NOT addressing a separate copy of my postings to anywhere but the newsgroups, unless I am specifically and intentionally CCing to some individual. However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. That is true. Let's examine this bounce. YEs. --- Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 00:49:16 -0500 From: MDaemon at fts.vcl.sld.cu mdae...@fts.vcl.sld.cu So how is your newsgroup post getting to a mailer daemon in Cuba? See above lines in *this* post! However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. That is true. :-) Someone in Cuba, dainierlt (??), is subscribed to the SeaMonkey mailing list ??? Reply-To: nore...@fts.vcl.sld.cu [snip] From : urj...@bellsouth.net You. To : dainie...@fts.vcl.sld.cu Date : Wed, 02 Nov 2011 01:40:22 -0400 To: that dainierlt address in Cuba. I'm rather certain that the mozilla support group did not add that address to your post! See same lines above in this post. This message was not delivered. Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ - So it seems that the unsubscribe did not repair anything. No, it is in your configuration somewhere. Check your account settings for your bellsouth account, to look for a copy-to that includes the Cuban address. If you read Spanish, have a look at the sld.cu web site. Are you associated in any way? Info-Med ? NOT Associated in any way with Info-Med! -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: No, it is in your configuration somewhere. Check your account settings for your bellsouth account, to look for a copy-to that includes the Cuban address. Oh, and add your own email address as a CC: then look in that received mail headers for the Cuban address as another TO or CC. If it is a BCC you wouldn't see it. Ok. I'll add myself as a CC: to a posted article. Why not? :-) As a matter of fact I'm adding me as a CC: to this post :-) -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Larry wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Snip . . . . However all posts to the newsgroup are automatically forwarded/mirrored to the mailing list and supposedly Google groups. Snipped . . . None of my occasional newsgroup posts have bounced. Shouldn't they, if they are also automatically forwarded to the mailing list? When the, whatever, mechanism that forwards/mirrors a newsgroup posting to the mailing list creates the list email message , it includes an Errors-To: line in the header of the message. This is supposed to be the address to which any bounce messages by a receiving mail system get sent to. Messages for: an overflowing mailbox, automatic 'on vacation' messages (?), mailbox doesn't exist (account shut down, but no unsubscribe sent to the list), and any other sundry reasons. The Errors-To: address is generally to the list administrator and the message does NOT go back to the newsgroup poster! So, NO, as a newsGROUP poster you should never see a newsLIST bounce message. And that exactly seems to be the problem here. Why am I getting these bounce messages, and how do I get the problem resolved/corrected. Thanks for explaining. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Someone in Cuba, dainierlt (??), is subscribed to the SeaMonkey mailing list ??? Seems to me if that were true, and be the cause of the bounce, wouldn't all of us receive the bounces then? I dunno. It's a puzzlement. (Thanks for snipping the crosspost.) -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Someone in Cuba, dainierlt (??), is subscribed to the SeaMonkey mailing list ??? Seems to me if that were true, and be the cause of the bounce, wouldn't all of us receive the bounces then? I dunno. It's a puzzlement. (Thanks for snipping the crosspost.) That's what I asked Kai Ro (in email) But I didn't get an answer. Oh, and should I send you what I received on CCing myself on that newsgroup posting? I didn't see anything. But maybe you will :-) -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Someone in Cuba, dainierlt (??), is subscribed to the SeaMonkey mailing list ??? Seems to me if that were true, and be the cause of the bounce, wouldn't all of us receive the bounces then? I dunno. It's a puzzlement. That's what I asked Kai Ro (in email) But I didn't get an answer. Perhaps later... Oh, and should I send you what I received on CCing myself on that newsgroup posting? I didn't see anything. But maybe you will :-) Sure .. post it (complete headers) to the .test group. :-) -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Question about mozilla.test and test for spurious bounces problem :-)
This is both a test to see if the spurious bounces problem has been repaired and to ask this naive question about mozilla.test: Has mozilla.test now become a general discussion, and blow off steam newsgroup? Just look at the last several days worth of postings there. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
