Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-13 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey 

Tue, 13 Jun 2017 08:00:25 -0400, /rickman/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 6/12/2017 7:35 AM:


https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more than) 
you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are considered 
"new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar indicator for closed 
threads with _new_ messages, also.

[...]
[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish


I'm not familiar with Stylish.  When it was first mentioned I thought it 
was an add in to SeaMonkey, but it seems to be something more general.  
In fact, when I read "help" it says it is for Chrome and Firefox and 
doesn't mention SeaMonkey.


If you have trouble with the userstyles.org site you could add the style 
manually to your Stylish [1] addon:


@namespace 
url("http://www.mozilla.org/keymaster/gatekeeper/there.is.only.xul;);


@-moz-document url("chrome://messenger/content/messenger.xul") {

  .icon-holder[BiffState="NewMail"][IsServer="true"],
  .icon-holder[NewMessages="true"],
  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(biffState-NewMail, isServer-true),
  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(biffState-NewMail, 
subfoldersHaveUnreadMessages-true, closed),

  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(newMessages-true),
  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(new) {
color: green;
  }

  treechildren::-moz-tree-cell-text(selected, focus) {
color: -moz-CellHighlightText;
  }

}

You could also use the "userChrome.css" [2] for that purpose, though it 
has inherent flaw [3] making such kind of "overlay" style customization 
much more difficult (using !important [4] declarations).


[2] http://kb.mozillazine.org/UserChrome.css
[3] https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676054
[4] 
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/Specificity#The_!important_exception


When I visit the page you link to,  the page never fully loads with a 
notice at the bottom it is waiting for googleads.g.doubleclick.net...  I 
see an ad pretending to be a download link which tries to get me to 
install what may well be malware.  Then I see a smaller box that says 
"Install with Stylish" which takes me to a page of Firefox add-ons 
showing Stylish.  Is this what I am supposed to install into SeaMonkey?  
One of the two reviews says,


Whoever taken over this plugin is destroying it.

Selling user info, making a buggy website, plugin still missing basic 
functionality.


It's amazing that it is still holding up.


Should I be concerned?

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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-13 Thread rickman 

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 6/12/2017 7:35 AM:

Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more than)
you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are considered
"new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar indicator for closed
threads with _new_ messages, also.

– Stanimir


 Original Message 
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 00:44:53 +0300
From: Stanimir Stamenkov
Subject: Re: Seamonkey Icons
Message-ID:


Mon, 5 Jun 2017 15:02:37 -0400, /rickman/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 6/5/2017 2:37 PM:

Mon, 5 Jun 2017 14:06:10 -0400, /rickman/:


Yeah, but nothing at the thread level and nothing in the folder pane to
make groups with new messages stand out.  Unread is not the same as "new".

I recall in T-bird they would color the group name in green to show it
had new posts.


The suggested styling customization achieves just that in the thread pane:

http://i.imgur.com/GUIvtiR.png

As you may see from the screenshot the same could be achieved in the
folder pane also.  It seems we're going too off-topic with the coloring
here, so you may wish to start a new thread on it, or just search the web
to find past discussions on it.


I'm not sure there is anything to discuss further.  You continue to
discuss the thread pane while I am talking about the folder pane.  You
discuss unread posts while I am talking about *new* posts.


O.k.  So you appear to want:

http://i.imgur.com/MSTAPRA.png

In the next days I'll provide this as Stylish [1] style with customizable
color, pretty much like:

https://userstyles.org/styles/126461/mail-compose-quote-color

(press the "Advanced Style Settings" to change the color)

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish


I'm not familiar with Stylish.  When it was first mentioned I thought it was 
an add in to SeaMonkey, but it seems to be something more general.  In fact, 
when I read "help" it says it is for Chrome and Firefox and doesn't mention 
SeaMonkey.


When I visit the page you link to,  the page never fully loads with a notice 
at the bottom it is waiting for googleads.g.doubleclick.net...  I see an ad 
pretending to be a download link which tries to get me to install what may 
well be malware.  Then I see a smaller box that says "Install with Stylish" 
which takes me to a page of Firefox add-ons showing Stylish.  Is this what I 
am supposed to install into SeaMonkey?  One of the two reviews says,


Whoever taken over this plugin is destroying it.

Selling user info, making a buggy website, plugin still missing basic 
functionality.


It's amazing that it is still holding up.


Should I be concerned?

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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-13 Thread Daniel 

On 13/06/2017 1:24 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:


On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired
off with great aplomb:


Here's initial draft of the style:



Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does
more than) you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders
are considered "new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar
 indicator for closed threads with _new_ messages, also.

– Stanimir


Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.


Page WFM, have not tried the style sheet.

When I click on the link above (twice, now), I get a screen with lots of 
stuff (including "Install with *Stylish* "), with a window which 
displays the message "Preview not available".


I then cleared my Error Console, closed the page, re-clicked on the 
above link and then re-checked the Error Console and had 48 errors, 
including some "Expected declaration ", some "Error in parsing 
value", some "Unknown property ", some google-analytic blocked 
errors, some Unknown property 'use-select', etc., etc.


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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-13 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey 

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 14:35:13 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:


Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more 
than) you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are 
considered "new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar indicator 
for closed threads with _new_ messages, also.


Minor fix for selected items applied additionally.  If you had it 
installed already the page should provide "Update Style" button now.


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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-12 Thread Ed Mullen 
On 6/12/17 at 1:55 PM, Ed Mullen's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:
On 6/12/17 at 1:19 PM, Ed Mullen's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:
On 6/12/17 at 11:34 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired 
off with great aplomb:

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:53:57 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:19:14 -0400, /Ed Mullen/:
On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired 
off with great aplomb:



Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages 





Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.


Opens here in all of SM 2.49, Fx 53.0.3, and Fx Dev. Ed. 54.0b14.  
It appears sometimes it "pauses" as a blank screen for awhile, then 
populates the content – see if the Console and/or Network tabs of 
the Developer Tools reveal something suspicious (blocked content, 
etc.). It might be the style hasn't been propagated to a server near 
your location yet, also.


You may also try: https://userstyles.org/styles/143818



Works in IE and Edge. Off to try Safe Mode ...



Works in Safe Mode.

The Error Console shows lots of CSS errors, a few javascript, a few 
"Unkown property" errors.  It must be an add-on. I'll try to figure out 
which one.




Nope.  Disabled all extensions and no joy.  Only one plugin, Flash.

Don't see anything obvious in User set prefs.


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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-12 Thread Ed Mullen 
On 6/12/17 at 1:19 PM, Ed Mullen's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:
On 6/12/17 at 11:34 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:53:57 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:19:14 -0400, /Ed Mullen/:
On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired 
off with great aplomb:



Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages 




Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.


Opens here in all of SM 2.49, Fx 53.0.3, and Fx Dev. Ed. 54.0b14.  It 
appears sometimes it "pauses" as a blank screen for awhile, then 
populates the content – see if the Console and/or Network tabs of the 
Developer Tools reveal something suspicious (blocked content, etc.). 
It might be the style hasn't been propagated to a server near your 
location yet, also.


You may also try: https://userstyles.org/styles/143818



Works in IE and Edge. Off to try Safe Mode ...



Works in Safe Mode.

The Error Console shows lots of CSS errors, a few javascript, a few 
"Unkown property" errors.  It must be an add-on. I'll try to figure out 
which one.


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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-12 Thread Ed Mullen 
On 6/12/17 at 11:34 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:53:57 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:19:14 -0400, /Ed Mullen/:
On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired 
off with great aplomb:



Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages 



Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.


Opens here in all of SM 2.49, Fx 53.0.3, and Fx Dev. Ed. 54.0b14.  It 
appears sometimes it "pauses" as a blank screen for awhile, then 
populates the content – see if the Console and/or Network tabs of the 
Developer Tools reveal something suspicious (blocked content, etc.).  
It might be the style hasn't been propagated to a server near your 
location yet, also.


You may also try: https://userstyles.org/styles/143818



Works in IE and Edge. Off to try Safe Mode ...

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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-12 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey 

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 17:53:57 +0300, /Stanimir Stamenkov/:

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:19:14 -0400, /Ed Mullen/:
On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired 
off with great aplomb:



Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages 


Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.


Opens here in all of SM 2.49, Fx 53.0.3, and Fx Dev. Ed. 54.0b14.  It 
appears sometimes it "pauses" as a blank screen for awhile, then 
populates the content – see if the Console and/or Network tabs of the 
Developer Tools reveal something suspicious (blocked content, etc.).  It 
might be the style hasn't been propagated to a server near your location 
yet, also.


You may also try: https://userstyles.org/styles/143818

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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-12 Thread Paul B. Gallagher 

Ed Mullen wrote:


On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired
off with great aplomb:


Here's initial draft of the style:



Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does
more than) you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders
are considered "new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar
 indicator for closed threads with _new_ messages, also.

– Stanimir


Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.


Page WFM, have not tried the style sheet.

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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-12 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey 

Mon, 12 Jun 2017 10:19:14 -0400, /Ed Mullen/:
On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:



Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more 
than) you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are 
considered "new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar 
indicator for closed threads with _new_ messages, also.


Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.


Opens here in all of SM 2.49, Fx 53.0.3, and Fx Dev. Ed. 54.0b14.  It 
appears sometimes it "pauses" as a blank screen for awhile, then 
populates the content – see if the Console and/or Network tabs of the 
Developer Tools reveal something suspicious (blocked content, etc.).  It 
might be the style hasn't been propagated to a server near your location 
yet, also.


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Re: Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-12 Thread Ed Mullen 
On 6/12/17 at 7:35 AM, Stanimir Stamenkov's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more 
than) you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are 
considered "new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar indicator 
for closed threads with _new_ messages, also.


– Stanimir

Link shows me a blank page in SM and FF.

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Color highlight of new (vs. unread) folders/messages

2017-06-12 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey 

Here's initial draft of the style:

https://userstyles.org/styles/143818/color-new-vs-unread-folders-messages

Please give it a try and tell me if it misses something (or does more 
than) you need.  Note, the style doesn't govern which folders are 
considered "new".  I couldn't find "biffState-NewMail" similar indicator 
for closed threads with _new_ messages, also.


– Stanimir


 Original Message 
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 00:44:53 +0300
From: Stanimir Stamenkov
Subject: Re: Seamonkey Icons
Message-ID: 



Mon, 5 Jun 2017 15:02:37 -0400, /rickman/:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 6/5/2017 2:37 PM:

Mon, 5 Jun 2017 14:06:10 -0400, /rickman/:

Yeah, but nothing at the thread level and nothing in the folder pane to 
make groups with new messages stand out.  Unread is not the same as 
"new".


I recall in T-bird they would color the group name in green to show 
it had new posts.


The suggested styling customization achieves just that in the thread 
pane:


http://i.imgur.com/GUIvtiR.png

As you may see from the screenshot the same could be achieved in the folder 
pane also.  It seems we're going too off-topic with the coloring here, so 
you may wish to start a new thread on it, or just search the web to find 
past discussions on it.


I'm not sure there is anything to discuss further.  You continue to 
discuss the thread pane while I am talking about the folder pane.  You 
discuss unread posts while I am talking about *new* posts.


O.k.  So you appear to want:

http://i.imgur.com/MSTAPRA.png

In the next days I'll provide this as Stylish [1] style with 
customizable color, pretty much like:


https://userstyles.org/styles/126461/mail-compose-quote-color

(press the "Advanced Style Settings" to change the color)

[1] https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/stylish

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