Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[NFN Smith]

Richard Owlett wrote:


There are a couple of ways to accomplish what you want.

* Use IMAP. :)


I chose POP long ago for various reasons.


I also have a strong preference for POP, but in this particular instance 
there may be good reason to use a combination of both POP and IMAP.


I use several different mail clients, including alternate profiles in 
Seamonkey and Thunderbird on my primary working machine, as well as 
clients on alternate working machines -- plus webmail and my smart phone.


In my primary profile in Seamonkey, I use POP, and that's where I do all 
my long-term archiving of messages. However, I have POP configs set to 
leave messages on the server for 15 days after download (rather than 
immediate deletion). Then, when I'm working from alternate profiles or 
clients, I have the most recent 2 weeks of accumulated mail available to 
me. In the alternate profiles and clients, I make one additional tweak, 
setting the Inbox to be the repository of sent messages, rather than the 
Sent folder.  That way, when I next connect with my regular POP client, 
all my sent messages are downloaded to my Inbox, where I can then file 
them in my regular mail stores.


One variant of Sent handling is to simply Bcc: myself when I'm sending. 
That one also is adequate for making sure I have copies of the stuff I 
send, where I can eventually file.


In my mind, I assume that everything that I have in my POP profile is 
the formal, official and permanent copy of any individual message. 
However, having copies of stuff on the server gives me the ability to 
interact with the most recent stuff in whatever setup I want, without 
disrupting permanent storage.


As others have noted, it's not that hard to copy a single folder from 
one profile to another (whether on the same computer or to another 
computer), but it takes more work in finding the right folder (whether 
working around the issue of the Windows AppData folder being hidden by 
default, or knowing how to use the %APPDATA% environment variable), and 
then you'll have more work to do with synchronization of your messages 
when you return the folder to the original profile. Even if you have a 
strong preference for POP, letting IMAP work for you makes all that go a 
bunch faster and easier.


Smith

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Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-12-22 3:01 p.m., Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Chris Ilias wrote:


* Manually copy the folder...

1. On your destination PC, create sub-folders in the Local Folders 
account for the folder you want to import.


This step (creating dummy files that you will immediately overwrite) 
really isn't necessary. If you just drop the corresponding mail folder 
into the corresponding (sub)folder of the mail directory with SM closed, 
it'll recognize them as soon as it wakes up.


For example, on Windows 7, if you drop it into
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles 
\9bzizhmz.slt\Mail\Local Folders\

you should be good.

The only time this would be an issue is if SM on one computer has 
subfolders in the target directory and the other doesn't. You can tell 
at a glance because all subfolders are named *.sbd.


I suppose it could also be useful if you're not sure where to put the 
folder you're transferring, but I assume you already know that.


Thanks, Paul! :)

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Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Chris Ilias wrote:


* Manually copy the folder...

1. On your destination PC, create sub-folders in the Local Folders 
account for the folder you want to import.


This step (creating dummy files that you will immediately overwrite) 
really isn't necessary. If you just drop the corresponding mail folder 
into the corresponding (sub)folder of the mail directory with SM closed, 
it'll recognize them as soon as it wakes up.


For example, on Windows 7, if you drop it into
C:\Users\\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles 
\9bzizhmz.slt\Mail\Local Folders\

you should be good.

The only time this would be an issue is if SM on one computer has 
subfolders in the target directory and the other doesn't. You can tell 
at a glance because all subfolders are named *.sbd.


I suppose it could also be useful if you're not sure where to put the 
folder you're transferring, but I assume you already know that.


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Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[Richard Owlett]

On 12/22/2018 12:12 PM, Chris Ilias wrote:

[snip]

Evidently question poorly stated.
How do I copy a single sub-folder from my inbox tree to a USB drive?
And inversely how do I copy it to the second machine's inbox?

Thank you


There are a couple of ways to accomplish what you want.

* Use IMAP. :)


I chose POP long ago for various reasons.



* Manually copy the folder...

1. On your destination PC, create sub-folders in the Local Folders 
account for the folder you want to import.



I just needed the reminder that what I wanted was at
"/home/richard/.mozilla/seamonkey/9bzizhmz.slt/Mail/rowlett on 
PCNET/Inbox.sbd/0backup incoming" ;/


And, considering the time I spent in&around "9bzizhmz.slt" a couple of 
years ago, it should have been obvious.


Thank you.
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Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[Chris Ilias]

On 2018-12-22 12:48 p.m., Richard Owlett wrote:

On 12/22/2018 10:04 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I know it is possible to copy a single e-mail folder from one machine 
to another. I've just forgotten how to do it.


The situation:
My primary machine went to the shop for repair.
I had to use a secondary machine for a while.
I set up a mail filter to copy all incoming mail to a new folder 
before applying my other filters.


How do I copy that single folder to me primary machine when it 
returns from the shop?


Two options:

1) Network the two computers, transfer over the network using your 
operating system's file-copying features;


2) Use the "sneakernet" (copy to removable media such as a flash 
drive, move the removable media to the target computer, use your OS's 
file-copying features).





 Sneakers not needed. The machines are 18" apart.

Evidently question poorly stated.
How do I copy a single sub-folder from my inbox tree to a USB drive?
And inversely how do I copy it to the second machine's inbox?

Thank you


There are a couple of ways to accomplish what you want.

* Use IMAP. :)

* Manually copy the folder...

1. On your destination PC, create sub-folders in the Local Folders 
account for the folder you want to import.


2. On your temporary PC, open SeaMonkey, go to 
Help-->Troubleshooting_Information, click on [Open Folder], and close 
SeaMonkey. That will open your profile folder in Windows Explorer.


3. In your profile, go to the \Mail\ folder, then open the directory 
containing the folder you want to import. It should be named after the 
server. (For example /Mail/pop.mail.yahoo.com/)


4. Copy the file named after the folder that doesn't have an extension 
to a USB stick or whatever you're using to transfer the data from one 
computer to the other.


5. On your destination PC, open SeaMonkey, go to
Help-->Troubleshooting_Information, click on [Open Folder], and close 
SeaMonkey. That will open your profile folder in Windows Explorer.


6. In your profile, go to the \Mail\ folder, then the \Local Folders\
folder.

7. There should be files for each folder you want to import that you 
created in step 1. In this step replace the those files with the ones 
from your USB stick. They should have the same names.


8. Open SeaMonkey. In your Local Folders account, you should see 
folders/messages from your old computer. At that point, you can drag and 
drop the messages between folders within SeaMonkey.


...but I recommend using an IMAP account for this.

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Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[Richard Owlett]

On 12/22/2018 10:04 AM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I know it is possible to copy a single e-mail folder from one machine 
to another. I've just forgotten how to do it.


The situation:
My primary machine went to the shop for repair.
I had to use a secondary machine for a while.
I set up a mail filter to copy all incoming mail to a new folder 
before applying my other filters.


How do I copy that single folder to me primary machine when it returns 
from the shop?


Two options:

1) Network the two computers, transfer over the network using your 
operating system's file-copying features;


2) Use the "sneakernet" (copy to removable media such as a flash drive, 
move the removable media to the target computer, use your OS's 
file-copying features).





 Sneakers not needed. The machines are 18" apart.

Evidently question poorly stated.
How do I copy a single sub-folder from my inbox tree to a USB drive?
And inversely how do I copy it to the second machine's inbox?

Thank you


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Re: Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Richard Owlett wrote:

I know it is possible to copy a single e-mail folder from one machine to 
another. I've just forgotten how to do it.


The situation:
My primary machine went to the shop for repair.
I had to use a secondary machine for a while.
I set up a mail filter to copy all incoming mail to a new folder before 
applying my other filters.


How do I copy that single folder to me primary machine when it returns 
from the shop?


Two options:

1) Network the two computers, transfer over the network using your 
operating system's file-copying features;


2) Use the "sneakernet" (copy to removable media such as a flash drive, 
move the removable media to the target computer, use your OS's 
file-copying features).



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Copying a single email folder to another machine - How?

[Richard Owlett]

I know it is possible to copy a single e-mail folder from one machine to 
another. I've just forgotten how to do it.


The situation:
My primary machine went to the shop for repair.
I had to use a secondary machine for a while.
I set up a mail filter to copy all incoming mail to a new folder before 
applying my other filters.


How do I copy that single folder to me primary machine when it returns 
from the shop?


TIA

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