Re: Extra folders in Cache
G. Ross wrote: Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/11/2012 04:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! That thread was in reference to 'Cache.Trash' files, not the standard 'Cache' files: Subject: Re: Cache.Trash26316 References: h-ednvktyoiyzo_nnz2dnuvz_sadn...@mozilla.org In-Reply-To: h-ednvktyoiyzo_nnz2dnuvz_sadn...@mozilla.org Message-ID: q8odns47wocxionnnz2dnuvz_qudn...@mozilla.org quote As I understand it, in Windows, when SM or FF experience a session crash/failure, the existing cache is written to cache.trash. This apparently was to assist in preserving the cache. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mozilla+%2B+cache.trash https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/15.0/releasenotes/buglist.html o 754575 Cache.Trash* files fill up disk space https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754575 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cache.trash /quote Hang onas I understand it, NoOp, e-mail and irc files are not written to cache, just files required to display a web-site in the browser. If these files are already written to cache, if a crash occurs why do I need them re-written somewhere else?? All I should need is a listing of the sites that were open in the browser at the time of failure, so, when re-started, FF/SM could re-create my browser screen, either by using the files in Cache *or* re-downloading the files from the sites if expired. So why the double up?? I found that when I click on Clear Cache in preferences/advanced/cache, the cache folder is renamed cache trash and a new, empty, cache folder is created. So then it is necessary to delete the cache trash to actually clear out the disk space. Don't know what happens in a crash as I have never had that happen that I remember. I don't see any cache.trash folder, even after Clearing Cache from the preferences/advanced/cache screen! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/11/12 6:11 PM, Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/11/12 4:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! Should I be worried about them re-appearing?? Or at all?? There is a set of cache folders that are automatically created by SeaMonkey (not Windows) if they do not already exist. These are named with the hex numbers 0-F. This happens whether or not they are immediately required. If you clear your entire cache, these folders remain. Thanks for your reply, David, explains why, after deleting the Cache folder in Win7 last night, I now have a set of the folders, etc, in Cache this morning when I've booted into my Linux version. So now the questions is.What is the purpose of all these directories?? Supposedly, having those specific directories always present improves the speed with which Gecko (the Core component of SeaMonkey and Firefox) maintains and uses the cache. How?? Just seems to be more places to look!! If you want to search them, use about:cache and then click on the Disk List Cache Entries. *WARNING*: My cache is currently at 850 MB and doing this locked Seamonkey up completely for minutes. Clearing cache occasionally makes sense. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
A Williams wrote: Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/11/12 6:11 PM, Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/11/12 4:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! Should I be worried about them re-appearing?? Or at all?? There is a set of cache folders that are automatically created by SeaMonkey (not Windows) if they do not already exist. These are named with the hex numbers 0-F. This happens whether or not they are immediately required. If you clear your entire cache, these folders remain. Thanks for your reply, David, explains why, after deleting the Cache folder in Win7 last night, I now have a set of the folders, etc, in Cache this morning when I've booted into my Linux version. So now the questions is.What is the purpose of all these directories?? Supposedly, having those specific directories always present improves the speed with which Gecko (the Core component of SeaMonkey and Firefox) maintains and uses the cache. How?? Just seems to be more places to look!! If you want to search them, use about:cache and then click on the Disk List Cache Entries. *WARNING*: My cache is currently at 850 MB and doing this locked Seamonkey up completely for minutes. Clearing cache occasionally makes sense. Yeap, clicking the List Cache Entries *does* list the files in the \profile\Cache directory.but does nothing, apparently, about the stuff contained in the 0.F directories!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
On 10/11/2012 10:52 AM David E. Ross submitted the following: On 10/11/12 4:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! Should I be worried about them re-appearing?? Or at all?? There is a set of cache folders that are automatically created by SeaMonkey (not Windows) if they do not already exist. These are named with the hex numbers 0-F. This happens whether or not they are immediately required. If you clear your entire cache, these folders remain. Using Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Cache I changed the setting of the files to C:/Seamonkey/Cache Using the same window you can 'clear cache' (I use a click of the 'PrefBar' setting to do this). I also Delete the entire C:/SeaMonkey/Cache directory before doing system backups. It'll be recreated on SM startup and normally there's nothing in there I want. I've copied what I want as I need it. -- Ed, W3BNR http://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ No heaven will not ever Heaven be; Unless my cats are there to welcome me. --Unknown ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
On 10/13/2012 7:51 AM PT, W3BNR typed: Using Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Cache I changed the setting of the files to C:/Seamonkey/Cache Using the same window you can 'clear cache' (I use a click of the 'PrefBar' setting to do this). I also Delete the entire C:/SeaMonkey/Cache directory before doing system backups. It'll be recreated on SM startup and normally there's nothing in there I want. I've copied what I want as I need it. After crashes, I think SM clears it automatically too. -- ... Our world is not an ant farm! --Duncan MacLeod (Highlander Season 3 Finale Part II) /\___/\ Ant(Dude) @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
On 10/13/12 7:51 AM, W3BNR wrote: On 10/11/2012 10:52 AM David E. Ross submitted the following: On 10/11/12 4:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! Should I be worried about them re-appearing?? Or at all?? There is a set of cache folders that are automatically created by SeaMonkey (not Windows) if they do not already exist. These are named with the hex numbers 0-F. This happens whether or not they are immediately required. If you clear your entire cache, these folders remain. Using Edit/Preferences/Advanced/Cache I changed the setting of the files to C:/Seamonkey/Cache Using the same window you can 'clear cache' (I use a click of the 'PrefBar' setting to do this). I also Delete the entire C:/SeaMonkey/Cache directory before doing system backups. It'll be recreated on SM startup and normally there's nothing in there I want. I've copied what I want as I need it. I used to delete the entire set of cache folders before doing a backup. I now set my preferences to clear the cache whenever I terminate SeaMonkey. The resulting empty folders have negligible impact on the size of the backup or the speed at which the backup occurs. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
Daniel schreef: Snip Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. Seamonkey 2.12.1 If you want to follow a special thread of interest there's an easy way To mark the thread from the rest (eaysier to find) Press W, or Menu Massage Follow conversation (W) Ignore conversation (K) Zanqeutil ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
NoOp wrote: On 10/11/2012 04:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! That thread was in reference to 'Cache.Trash' files, not the standard 'Cache' files: Subject: Re: Cache.Trash26316 References: h-ednvktyoiyzo_nnz2dnuvz_sadn...@mozilla.org In-Reply-To: h-ednvktyoiyzo_nnz2dnuvz_sadn...@mozilla.org Message-ID: q8odns47wocxionnnz2dnuvz_qudn...@mozilla.org quote As I understand it, in Windows, when SM or FF experience a session crash/failure, the existing cache is written to cache.trash. This apparently was to assist in preserving the cache. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mozilla+%2B+cache.trash https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/15.0/releasenotes/buglist.html o 754575Cache.Trash* files fill up disk space https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754575 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cache.trash /quote Hang onas I understand it, NoOp, e-mail and irc files are not written to cache, just files required to display a web-site in the browser. If these files are already written to cache, if a crash occurs why do I need them re-written somewhere else?? All I should need is a listing of the sites that were open in the browser at the time of failure, so, when re-started, FF/SM could re-create my browser screen, either by using the files in Cache *or* re-downloading the files from the sites if expired. So why the double up?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
Daniel wrote: NoOp wrote: On 10/11/2012 04:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! That thread was in reference to 'Cache.Trash' files, not the standard 'Cache' files: Subject: Re: Cache.Trash26316 References: h-ednvktyoiyzo_nnz2dnuvz_sadn...@mozilla.org In-Reply-To: h-ednvktyoiyzo_nnz2dnuvz_sadn...@mozilla.org Message-ID: q8odns47wocxionnnz2dnuvz_qudn...@mozilla.org quote As I understand it, in Windows, when SM or FF experience a session crash/failure, the existing cache is written to cache.trash. This apparently was to assist in preserving the cache. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=mozilla+%2B+cache.trash https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/15.0/releasenotes/buglist.html o 754575Cache.Trash* files fill up disk space https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=754575 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=cache.trash /quote Hang onas I understand it, NoOp, e-mail and irc files are not written to cache, just files required to display a web-site in the browser. If these files are already written to cache, if a crash occurs why do I need them re-written somewhere else?? All I should need is a listing of the sites that were open in the browser at the time of failure, so, when re-started, FF/SM could re-create my browser screen, either by using the files in Cache *or* re-downloading the files from the sites if expired. So why the double up?? I found that when I click on Clear Cache in preferences/advanced/cache, the cache folder is renamed cache trash and a new, empty, cache folder is created. So then it is necessary to delete the cache trash to actually clear out the disk space. Don't know what happens in a crash as I have never had that happen that I remember. -- G.W. Ross Megabyte: A nine course dinner. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Extra folders in Cache
User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! Should I be worried about them re-appearing?? Or at all?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
On 10/11/12 4:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! Should I be worried about them re-appearing?? Or at all?? There is a set of cache folders that are automatically created by SeaMonkey (not Windows) if they do not already exist. These are named with the hex numbers 0-F. This happens whether or not they are immediately required. If you clear your entire cache, these folders remain. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/11/12 4:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! Should I be worried about them re-appearing?? Or at all?? There is a set of cache folders that are automatically created by SeaMonkey (not Windows) if they do not already exist. These are named with the hex numbers 0-F. This happens whether or not they are immediately required. If you clear your entire cache, these folders remain. Thanks for your reply, David, explains why, after deleting the Cache folder in Win7 last night, I now have a set of the folders, etc, in Cache this morning when I've booted into my Linux version. So now the questions is.What is the purpose of all these directories?? -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
On 10/11/12 6:11 PM, Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/11/12 4:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! Should I be worried about them re-appearing?? Or at all?? There is a set of cache folders that are automatically created by SeaMonkey (not Windows) if they do not already exist. These are named with the hex numbers 0-F. This happens whether or not they are immediately required. If you clear your entire cache, these folders remain. Thanks for your reply, David, explains why, after deleting the Cache folder in Win7 last night, I now have a set of the folders, etc, in Cache this morning when I've booted into my Linux version. So now the questions is.What is the purpose of all these directories?? Supposedly, having those specific directories always present improves the speed with which Gecko (the Core component of SeaMonkey and Firefox) maintains and uses the cache. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Anyone who thinks government owns a monopoly on inefficient, obstructive bureaucracy has obviously never worked for a large corporation. © 1997 by David E. Ross ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Extra folders in Cache
David E. Ross wrote: On 10/11/12 6:11 PM, Daniel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 10/11/12 4:52 AM, Daniel wrote: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120826 SeaMonkey/2.12 In the last few days, I've caught up on about two weeks of posts in m.s.seamonkey and m.general, and somewhere, in those several hundred posts, there was a post mentioning files and folders in SM's cache folder, with names like along the lines of _CACHE_001_, _CACHE_MAP_, and folders named (hexadecimally) 0 to F Unfortunately, after re-reading that message, I didn't re-mark it as Unread so that I could easily find it, if necessary. From what I read in the post, someone (I think NoOp) said they were caused by Windows and to just delete them, and not worry about it. So, last night, after closing SM, I deleted the Cache folder. Tonight, before I had started my SM browser, they were all back! Should I be worried about them re-appearing?? Or at all?? There is a set of cache folders that are automatically created by SeaMonkey (not Windows) if they do not already exist. These are named with the hex numbers 0-F. This happens whether or not they are immediately required. If you clear your entire cache, these folders remain. Thanks for your reply, David, explains why, after deleting the Cache folder in Win7 last night, I now have a set of the folders, etc, in Cache this morning when I've booted into my Linux version. So now the questions is.What is the purpose of all these directories?? Supposedly, having those specific directories always present improves the speed with which Gecko (the Core component of SeaMonkey and Firefox) maintains and uses the cache. How?? Just seems to be more places to look!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
