Re: OT Re: Google not displaying

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/24/17 at 5:39 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

On 24/07/2017 12:29 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/23/17 at 12:01 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

On 23/07/2017 12:57 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
On 7/21/17 at 2:00 PM, Spyhunter created this epitome of digital 
genius:

This is my user agent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64;
rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51 Lightning/5.6

The one by default with Seamonkey 2.51.

What's your SeaMonkey version ?


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51

That's the default UA.


Just by-the-by 

Does/Can a "Default UA" for SM include the FF version?? Or does
selecting to "Advertise FF compatibility" in Prefs make it a
non-Default UA??


With AFFC unchecked the UA is:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.51

Correct! So I would call that the "Default UA" ... but, as the program 
itself adds the "AFFC" function, is that still "Default UA"??


No Biggie!!



I suppose you could think of it as a default for when that option is 
selected.  Although, I guess, strictly speaking, the one true default 
should be the one with no options set.



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Re: OT Re: Google not displaying

[Daniel]

On 24/07/2017 12:29 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/23/17 at 12:01 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

On 23/07/2017 12:57 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/21/17 at 2:00 PM, Spyhunter created this epitome of digital genius:

This is my user agent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64;
rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51 Lightning/5.6

The one by default with Seamonkey 2.51.

What's your SeaMonkey version ?


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51

That's the default UA.


Just by-the-by 

Does/Can a "Default UA" for SM include the FF version?? Or does
selecting to "Advertise FF compatibility" in Prefs make it a
non-Default UA??


With AFFC unchecked the UA is:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.51

Correct! So I would call that the "Default UA" ... but, as the program 
itself adds the "AFFC" function, is that still "Default UA"??


No Biggie!!

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Re: OT Re: Google not displaying

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/23/17 at 12:01 AM, Daniel created this epitome of digital genius:

On 23/07/2017 12:57 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/21/17 at 2:00 PM, Spyhunter created this epitome of digital genius:

This is my user agent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64;
rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51 Lightning/5.6

The one by default with Seamonkey 2.51.

What's your SeaMonkey version ?




Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51

That's the default UA.



Just by-the-by 

Does/Can a "Default UA" for SM include the FF version?? Or does 
selecting to "Advertise FF compatibility" in Prefs make it a non-Default 
UA??




With AFFC unchecked the UA is:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.51


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OT Re: Google not displaying

[Daniel]

On 23/07/2017 12:57 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/21/17 at 2:00 PM, Spyhunter created this epitome of digital genius:

This is my user agent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64;
rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51 Lightning/5.6

The one by default with Seamonkey 2.51.

What's your SeaMonkey version ?




Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51

That's the default UA.



Just by-the-by 

Does/Can a "Default UA" for SM include the FF version?? Or does 
selecting to "Advertise FF compatibility" in Prefs make it a non-Default 
UA??


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Re: Google not displaying

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/21/17 at 2:00 PM, Spyhunter created this epitome of digital genius:
This is my user agent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; 
rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51 Lightning/5.6


The one by default with Seamonkey 2.51.

What's your SeaMonkey version ?




Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51


That's the default UA.


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Re: Google not displaying

[WaltS48]

Ed Mullen wrote:

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the map.
Page does not display.

Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.




Confirmed using Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46


Also didn't work with a test profile.
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Re: Google not displaying

[Felix Miata]

EE composed on 2017-07-21 11:48 (UTC-0700):

> Jonathan N. Little wrote:

>> Anyone else tired of the sloppy development practice of user agent 
>> sniffing over object detection?

> Yes, but at least it is less frequent than it used to be.

I think not. Instead of broken pages, empty pages are served instead.
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Re: Google not displaying

[EE]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Anyone else tired of the sloppy development practice of user agent 
sniffing over object detection?



Yes, but at least it is less frequent than it used to be.

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Re: Google not displaying

[EE]

Arnie Goetchius wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the map. Page 
does not display.

Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.


Same here. No display

The only images I see under the map are little stars.  Clicking one of 
them results in a page listing Joyce's Craft Shop in Ireland.


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Re: Google not displaying

[WaltS48]

On 7/21/17 12:27 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/21/17 at 11:18 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl's prodigious digits fired off
with great aplomb:

Google does incorrect browser sniffing for months now. Override the
user agent using prefbar or another switcher and see if it starts
working.
FRG

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/21/17 at 10:40 AM, Arnie Goetchius's prodigious digits fired off
with great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the
map. Page does not display.

Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.


Same here. No display



Nice to know I'm not the only one!





BINGO!  Thanks.



Anyone else tired of the sloppy development practice of user agent 
sniffing over object detection?




Yes.

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Re: Google not displaying

[Spyhunter]

This is my user agent : Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; 
rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51 Lightning/5.6


The one by default with Seamonkey 2.51.

What's your SeaMonkey version ?



Ed Mullen a écrit :

On 7/21/17 at 1:24 PM, Spyhunter created this epitome of digital genius:
Yes, I have followed the instruction and it worked with my version of 
SeaMonkey.


Everything it's functional on the page.

I'm on win 10 64 bits.

Let me know.

Spyhunter


Ed Mullen a écrit :
On 7/21/17 at 1:10 PM, Spyhunter's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

Hello Ed,

I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.51 (x64) build by Adrian Kalla and 
have no issue with the link you provided.


Give it a try : 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ 
 



Spyhunter



Ed Mullen a écrit :

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the 
map. Page does not display.


Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.





Did you click one of the images as I said?  There's no problem with 
the page at the above link, it's the page that results from clicking 
the images.







Well, it doesn't work for me and others using the default UA. Spoofing 
Firefox UA lets it work.




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Re: Google not displaying

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/21/17 at 1:24 PM, Spyhunter created this epitome of digital genius:
Yes, I have followed the instruction and it worked with my version of 
SeaMonkey.


Everything it's functional on the page.

I'm on win 10 64 bits.

Let me know.

Spyhunter


Ed Mullen a écrit :
On 7/21/17 at 1:10 PM, Spyhunter's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

Hello Ed,

I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.51 (x64) build by Adrian Kalla and have 
no issue with the link you provided.


Give it a try : 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ 
 



Spyhunter



Ed Mullen a écrit :

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the 
map. Page does not display.


Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.





Did you click one of the images as I said?  There's no problem with 
the page at the above link, it's the page that results from clicking 
the images.







Well, it doesn't work for me and others using the default UA. Spoofing 
Firefox UA lets it work.


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Re: Google not displaying

[Spyhunter]

Yes, I have followed the instruction and it worked with my version of 
SeaMonkey.


Everything it's functional on the page.

I'm on win 10 64 bits.

Let me know.

Spyhunter


Ed Mullen a écrit :
On 7/21/17 at 1:10 PM, Spyhunter's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

Hello Ed,

I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.51 (x64) build by Adrian Kalla and have 
no issue with the link you provided.


Give it a try : 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ 
 



Spyhunter



Ed Mullen a écrit :

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the 
map. Page does not display.


Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.





Did you click one of the images as I said?  There's no problem with 
the page at the above link, it's the page that results from clicking 
the images.





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Re: Google not displaying

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/21/17 at 1:10 PM, Spyhunter's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

Hello Ed,

I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.51 (x64) build by Adrian Kalla and have no 
issue with the link you provided.


Give it a try : 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ 
 



Spyhunter



Ed Mullen a écrit :

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the 
map. Page does not display.


Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.





Did you click one of the images as I said?  There's no problem with the 
page at the above link, it's the page that results from clicking the images.



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Re: Google not displaying

[Spyhunter]

Hello Ed,

I'm using SeaMonkey version 2.51 (x64) build by Adrian Kalla and have no 
issue with the link you provided.


Give it a try : 
https://l10n.mozilla-community.org/~akalla/unofficial/seamonkey/nightly/ 



Spyhunter



Ed Mullen a écrit :

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the 
map. Page does not display.


Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.



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Re: Google not displaying

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/21/17 at 12:27 PM, Jonathan N. Little's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/21/17 at 11:18 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl's prodigious digits fired off
with great aplomb:

Google does incorrect browser sniffing for months now. Override the
user agent using prefbar or another switcher and see if it starts
working.
FRG

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/21/17 at 10:40 AM, Arnie Goetchius's prodigious digits fired off
with great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the
map. Page does not display.

Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.


Same here. No display



Nice to know I'm not the only one!





BINGO!  Thanks.



Anyone else tired of the sloppy development practice of user agent 
sniffing over object detection?




+1

And there's no legitimate reason anymore.


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Re: Google not displaying

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/21/17 at 11:18 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl's prodigious digits fired off
with great aplomb:

Google does incorrect browser sniffing for months now. Override the
user agent using prefbar or another switcher and see if it starts
working.
FRG

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 7/21/17 at 10:40 AM, Arnie Goetchius's prodigious digits fired off
with great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the
map. Page does not display.

Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.


Same here. No display



Nice to know I'm not the only one!





BINGO!  Thanks.



Anyone else tired of the sloppy development practice of user agent 
sniffing over object detection?


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Re: Google not displaying

[Arnie Goetchius]

Ed Mullen wrote:
> On 7/21/17 at 11:18 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl's prodigious digits fired off with 
> great aplomb:
>> Google does incorrect browser sniffing for months now. Override the user 
>> agent using prefbar or
>> another switcher and see if it starts working.
>> FRG
>>
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> On 7/21/17 at 10:40 AM, Arnie Goetchius's prodigious digits fired off with 
>>> great aplomb:
 Ed Mullen wrote:
> Weird issue. Go to:
>
> https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl
>
> Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the map. 
> Page does not display.
>
> Works fine in Firefox and IE.
>
> Tried in Safe Mode, same result.
>
 Same here. No display

>>>
>>> Nice to know I'm not the only one!
>>>
>>
> 
> BINGO!  Thanks.
> 
Ditto!!
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Re: Google not displaying

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/21/17 at 11:18 AM, Frank-Rainer Grahl's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:
Google does incorrect browser sniffing for months now. Override the user 
agent using prefbar or another switcher and see if it starts working.

FRG

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 7/21/17 at 10:40 AM, Arnie Goetchius's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the 
map. Page does not display.


Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.


Same here. No display



Nice to know I'm not the only one!





BINGO!  Thanks.

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Re: Google not displaying

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Google does incorrect browser sniffing for months now. Override the user agent 
using prefbar or another switcher and see if it starts working.

FRG

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 7/21/17 at 10:40 AM, Arnie Goetchius's prodigious digits fired off with 
great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the map. 
Page does not display.


Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.


Same here. No display



Nice to know I'm not the only one!



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Re: Google not displaying

[Ed Mullen]

On 7/21/17 at 10:40 AM, Arnie Goetchius's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the map. Page 
does not display.

Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.


Same here. No display



Nice to know I'm not the only one!

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Re: Google not displaying

[Arnie Goetchius]

Ed Mullen wrote:
> Weird issue. Go to:
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl
> 
> Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the map. Page 
> does not display.
> 
> Works fine in Firefox and IE.
> 
> Tried in Safe Mode, same result.
> 
Same here. No display
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Google not displaying

[Ed Mullen]

Weird issue. Go to:

https://www.google.com/search?q=joyc%27s%20craft%20shop&gws_rd=ssl

Page displays fine.  Click any of the small inset images under the map. 
Page does not display.


Works fine in Firefox and IE.

Tried in Safe Mode, same result.

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