Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-11-03 Thread Bernard Mercier

James a pensé très fort :


Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:41:57 -0400
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desertgal wrote:



  When I install SM2 with SM1 in place, SM2 won't run.


I am having that problem now. No matter which icon
I click, even the seamonkey.exe executable in the
sm 2 folder, when sm starts and I click HelpAbout
it always comes up 1.1.18. Must I uninstall 1.1.18
to get 2.0 to run??
I think that neither version will work as long as the other is running so you need to make 
sure that nothing of 1.1.18 is running in order to run 2.0.  For example, are you using quick 
start in 1.1.18?


Try looking at processes in task manager and make sure nothing that says Seamonkey is 
running then try 2.0.



Or try booting into safe mode and see if 2.0 will run [I don't know if it will 
or not].



Luck.
James
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Thread rearranged to have the prefered bottom posting here.

Yes, James is right, even the quick start of 1.1.18 should be exited for 2.0 to 
run.
I had that experience.

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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-30 Thread desertgal

Leonidas Jones wrote:

Peter Nieman wrote:

On 29/10/09 21:41, desertgal wrote:

/snip/

When I installed SM2 on a WinXP machine today, I didn't get the
migration wizard either. I uninstalled SM1 without removing its profile,
then installed SM2 and the wizard didn't come up. seamonkey -migration
didn't work either.

The solution for me was to uninstall SM2, then install SM1 again and
after that install SM2 WITHOUT uninstalling SM1 first. That made the
wizard come up. After that, I could unistall SM1.


That was my XP experience as well. I left the 1.1.18 install in plce, 
and the migration worked very well.


Lee
When I install SM2 with SM1 in place, SM2 won't run.  I've tried the 
manual migration of the profile  still no migration wizard.  I'm going 
to give it one more try by uninstalling both versions  running a search 
on my computer  the registry to remove all traces  see if that works.


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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-30 Thread cciaffone

desertgal wrote:

When I install SM2 with SM1 in place, SM2 won't run. 


I am having that problem now. No matter which icon
I click, even the seamonkey.exe executable in the
sm 2 folder, when sm starts and I click HelpAbout
it always comes up 1.1.18. Must I uninstall 1.1.18
to get 2.0 to run??
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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-30 Thread Jens Hatlak

cciaffone wrote:

When I install SM2 with SM1 in place, SM2 won't run.


I am having that problem now. No matter which icon
I click, even the seamonkey.exe executable in the
sm 2 folder, when sm starts and I click HelpAbout
it always comes up 1.1.18.


Only if SM 1.1.18 is running at the same time.


Must I uninstall 1.1.18 to get 2.0 to run??


No. Either quit SM 1.1.18 (completely, i.e. including Quick Launch if 
you use that) before starting SM 2.0 or start the latter with the 
-no-remote command line switch.


HTH

Jens

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Migrating a Profile

2009-10-29 Thread cciaffone

I tried this and it worked, but have I done any
damage??

I made a new folder d:/seamonkey2/users
and copied into it my 1.1.18 profile folder so it
looks like this: d:/seamonkey2/users/myname

Then in SM 2 I went into Manage Profiles, selected Create,
and chose that as the folder. Bingo. I have a new myname
profile with complete newsgroups, bookmarks, email, addys,
etc. Altho it did not carry over the url history, if I
start typing a URL I've used before, it finishes it for me.

Anyhow, is this gonna be ok??

chuck
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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-29 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov

Thu, 29 Oct 2009 14:23:44 -0400, /cciaffone/:

I tried this and it worked, but have I done any 
damage??


I made a new folder d:/seamonkey2/users
and copied into it my 1.1.18 profile folder so it
looks like this: d:/seamonkey2/users/myname

Then in SM 2 I went into Manage Profiles, selected Create,
and chose that as the folder. Bingo. I have a new myname
profile with complete newsgroups, bookmarks, email, addys,
etc. Altho it did not carry over the url history, if I
start typing a URL I've used before, it finishes it for me.

Anyhow, is this gonna be ok??


You seem to insist on doing stuff in strange ways.  It happens 
you've got some of your old profile data this way, as its format 
hasn't changed (a lot) but you should not expect everything working 
smoothly.  I can't even guarantee if you continue using thus 
imported profile to not wipe out by itself in future.


Haven't you tried:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#Manually_starting_profile_migration

as suggested in another reply?

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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-29 Thread cciaffone

cciaffone wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
  Haven't you tried:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#Manually_starting_profile_migration 



Yes I have. I enter the command in the Run box. SM starts in
Profile Manager. Not even a hint of the migration wizard.


Hey!! I ran seamonkey.exe -migration with no profile name and the
migration wizard started! The two profiles it let me migrate were
Default and the myprofile I created previously. The migration
wizard ran and now I have a legitimate myprofile profile -- I hope.

Serially -- has this stuff really been tested??
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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-29 Thread desertgal

cciaffone wrote:

cciaffone wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
  Haven't you tried:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#Manually_starting_profile_migration 




Yes I have. I enter the command in the Run box. SM starts in
Profile Manager. Not even a hint of the migration wizard.


Hey!! I ran seamonkey.exe -migration with no profile name and the
migration wizard started! The two profiles it let me migrate were
Default and the myprofile I created previously. The migration
wizard ran and now I have a legitimate myprofile profile -- I hope.

Serially -- has this stuff really been tested??
So what am I doing wrong.  I installed SM2, started it  got no 
migration wizard.  I've tried the manual migration as stated above 
several times  still no migration wizard.  I can get profile manager, 
but no way to import profiles  from what I've read just copying the old 
stuff from 1.1.18 into the folder doesn't work.  Any more suggestions.


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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-29 Thread Leonidas Jones

cciaffone wrote:

cciaffone wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 Haven't you tried:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#Manually_starting_profile_migration




Yes I have. I enter the command in the Run box. SM starts in
Profile Manager. Not even a hint of the migration wizard.


Hey!! I ran seamonkey.exe -migration with no profile name and the
migration wizard started! The two profiles it let me migrate were
Default and the myprofile I created previously. The migration
wizard ran and now I have a legitimate myprofile profile -- I hope.

Serially -- has this stuff really been tested??


Yes.  But however thoroughly software is tested, some people will always 
encounter problems.


Lee
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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-29 Thread Leonidas Jones

desertgal wrote:

cciaffone wrote:

cciaffone wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
 Haven't you tried:


http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#Manually_starting_profile_migration





Yes I have. I enter the command in the Run box. SM starts in
Profile Manager. Not even a hint of the migration wizard.


Hey!! I ran seamonkey.exe -migration with no profile name and the
migration wizard started! The two profiles it let me migrate were
Default and the myprofile I created previously. The migration
wizard ran and now I have a legitimate myprofile profile -- I hope.

Serially -- has this stuff really been tested??

So what am I doing wrong. I installed SM2, started it  got no migration
wizard. I've tried the manual migration as stated above several times 
still no migration wizard. I can get profile manager, but no way to
import profiles  from what I've read just copying the old stuff from
1.1.18 into the folder doesn't work. Any more suggestions.



Here is the knowledgebase article on maual starting profile migration:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#Manually_starting_profile_migration

It should answer any question, but feel free to post back if you have 
any trouble.


Lee
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[SM 2.0] Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-29 Thread NoOp
On 10/29/2009 01:18 PM, cciaffone wrote:
 cciaffone wrote:
 Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
   Haven't you tried:

 http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_migration_-_SeaMonkey#Manually_starting_profile_migration
  
 
 
 Yes I have. I enter the command in the Run box. SM starts in
 Profile Manager. Not even a hint of the migration wizard.
 
 Hey!! I ran seamonkey.exe -migration with no profile name and the
 migration wizard started! The two profiles it let me migrate were
 Default and the myprofile I created previously. The migration
 wizard ran and now I have a legitimate myprofile profile -- I hope.
 
 Serially -- has this stuff really been tested??

Perhaps you were absent for the SeaMonkey 2.0 RC1 pre-testing - help
wanted! announcement  thread? Or the SeaMonkey 2.0 Release Candidate
1 announcement  thread? The development wasn't done in some closed
backroom  one and all were invited to assist.

SeaMonkey (contrary to popular belief) is an open source community
effort. That means that it not only depends on the volunteer developers
 project/program leads, but the user community as well. Requests were
announced during the stages of the development to ask folks to help
test. Instructions  were provided on how to install SeaMonkey 2.x in
parallel to existing SeaMonkey 1.1.x installations. Users were asked to
run the litmus tests (as basic as they are), and provide feedback to the
developers.

But to answer your question: this stuff really been tested?? Yes. It was
tested to the best of any major release transition could be with the
non-developers that participated and provided feedback. That doesn't
mean all issues will have been noticed and/or resolved; for example I
don't have imap accounts, so I couldn't test those for litmus. It does
mean that it was tested well enough that the developers (and many
testing users) felt it solid enough for general release.

Will there be issues? Of course. Will there be folks unhappy with the
transition? Of course, that is the way with any major software transition.

  You are part of the SeaMonkey user community; so your comments do
count. Just try to remember that you were asked to help test along with
the rest of us users, and unlike many closed source products, the
ongoing effort to build a better product isn't confined to a few select
'beta testers'. Everything (except perhaps some sensitive security
issues) is all out in the open; anyone can view the bug reports, submit
a bug report, comment here, or comment on the mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey
group. Anyone can volunteer a code patch, volunteer to assist with
documentation, etc., etc.

Added comment  I'll get off my soapbox:
While I well expected to see a flood of can't do this anymore posts
(the same was true for the transition to Fx 3.x and will be for the
Thunderbird 3.x transition), I am surprised by many of the
complaints/issues that are being raised just now by _longtime_ SeaMonkey
users  subscribers to this newsgroup.

  I've no issue with those with little or no experience in testing
Alpha, Beta, Release Candidate, software. But it is disappointing (to
me) to see longtime newsgroup members with a reasonable amount of 'tech
savy' just now waving the 'can't do this flag' in a negative manner. If
you've (not directed any anyone in particular) not participated in
earlier testing, may I suggest that you post your issues with a [SM 2.0]
tag and try to provide as much detail as possible regarding the issue?
File a bug if you know how (bugzilla still bugs me but I try). If you
don't know how to file a bug report, ask  I'm sure that someone here
will help you.
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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-29 Thread Peter Nieman

On 29/10/09 21:41, desertgal wrote:

So what am I doing wrong. I installed SM2, started it  got no migration
wizard. I've tried the manual migration as stated above several times 
still no migration wizard. I can get profile manager, but no way to
import profiles  from what I've read just copying the old stuff from
1.1.18 into the folder doesn't work. Any more suggestions.


When I installed SM2 on a WinXP machine today, I didn't get the 
migration wizard either. I uninstalled SM1 without removing its profile, 
then installed SM2 and the wizard didn't come up. seamonkey -migration 
didn't work either.


The solution for me was to uninstall SM2, then install SM1 again and 
after that install SM2 WITHOUT uninstalling SM1 first. That made the 
wizard come up. After that, I could unistall SM1.

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Re: Migrating a Profile

2009-10-29 Thread Leonidas Jones

Peter Nieman wrote:

On 29/10/09 21:41, desertgal wrote:

/snip/

When I installed SM2 on a WinXP machine today, I didn't get the
migration wizard either. I uninstalled SM1 without removing its profile,
then installed SM2 and the wizard didn't come up. seamonkey -migration
didn't work either.

The solution for me was to uninstall SM2, then install SM1 again and
after that install SM2 WITHOUT uninstalling SM1 first. That made the
wizard come up. After that, I could unistall SM1.


That was my XP experience as well. I left the 1.1.18 install in plce, 
and the migration worked very well.


Lee
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