Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
Hb wrote: Perhaps https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966689 ? What is shown in the Error Console? Hb I don't think it is related. The security exceptions dialog does not even show up. Error console shows nothing regarding this problem. It is just silently ignored. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
On 01/12/2015 04:46 AM, Richard Falken wrote: I have performer further tests. I have tried to connect to news.eternal-september.org using NNTPS without installing the CAcert certificate. It silently drops the connection. I have installed CAcert's certificates and retried. Then it worked. No plugins were enabled duting these tests. My conclusion is, as I had already told, that my Seamonkey is dropping the connections when there is a SSL or TLS certificate problem and gives no warning to the user. It is helpful if you identify to others that you are using: User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:15.0) Gecko/20120910 SeaMonkey/2.12.1 Sorry, I've no interest in going back in time to help troubleshoot a 2012 version of SeaMonkey: https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey/ I doubt that others will either. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
Richard Falken wrote: I have not been able to connect to any news provider using SSL or TLS with Seamonkey yet. I have tried ternal-september, aioe and the mozilla service but I always timeout when I try to establish an encrypted connection. I suppose this means there is trouble on my end. Perhaps https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=966689 ? What is shown in the Error Console? Hb ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
NoOp wrote: SeaMonkey doesn't fail silently when connecting to Eternal-September - you should be getting the following message: Peer's Certificate issuer is not recognized. unless you've imported the root ca. See: I know that. I don't have CAcert's certificate but I am not getting a warning either. Maybe it is something related to some weird plugin. I will give it a try later. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
I have performer further tests. I have tried to connect to news.eternal-september.org using NNTPS without installing the CAcert certificate. It silently drops the connection. I have installed CAcert's certificates and retried. Then it worked. No plugins were enabled duting these tests. My conclusion is, as I had already told, that my Seamonkey is dropping the connections when there is a SSL or TLS certificate problem and gives no warning to the user. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
Hello. I have not been able to connect to any news provider using SSL or TLS with Seamonkey yet. I have tried ternal-september, aioe and the mozilla service but I always timeout when I try to establish an encrypted connection. I suppose this means there is trouble on my end. Do you have any ideas? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
Richard Falken wrote: Hello. I have not been able to connect to any news provider using SSL or TLS with Seamonkey yet. I have tried ternal-september, aioe and the mozilla service but I always timeout when I try to establish an encrypted connection. I suppose this means there is trouble on my end. Do you have any ideas? news.mozilla.org Connection security setting should be None, and use port 119. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
WaltS48 wrote: news.mozilla.org Connection security setting should be None, and use port 119. Does that mean news.mozilla.org does not support SSL or TLS? I was already connecting to those servers with no encryption at all. It is just that I find my unability to use encryption with servers that are supposed to provide it... weird. I have tested some of those services with openssl s_client, and it gives certificate error (some related to self-signing, some to expired certs). I wonder is seamonkey just silently fails when an invalid certificate is presented to it. If that is the case, I would call that a bug. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
I think I have found the problem. Excerpt from bug 745133: As of today, if a fatal connection error occurrs on a SSL/TLS socket, no feedback will be given to the user. This is different from we had in the past. In my opinion this behaviour is undesirable, as it gives the user the impression of a nonworking product. I think the problem is I have been trying to connect to servers using invalid certificates and Seamonkey has just decided to drop the connection without notifying the user. It really gives the impression there is something not working in either the client or the server. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: NNTP over SSL/TLS not working in Seamonkey.
On 01/11/2015 05:02 AM, Richard Falken wrote: WaltS48 wrote: news.mozilla.org Connection security setting should be None, and use port 119. Does that mean news.mozilla.org does not support SSL or TLS? I was already connecting to those servers with no encryption at all. It is just that I find my unability to use encryption with servers that are supposed to provide it... weird. I have tested some of those services with openssl s_client, and it gives certificate error (some related to self-signing, some to expired certs). I wonder is seamonkey just silently fails when an invalid certificate is presented to it. If that is the case, I would call that a bug. SeaMonkey doesn't fail silently when connecting to Eternal-September - you should be getting the following message: Peer's Certificate issuer is not recognized. unless you've imported the root ca. See: 1. http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo see the 2014-04-13 00:00:00 New SSL certificates for HTTPS and NNTPS info in the box. 2. http://wiki.cacert.org/FAQ/ImportRootCert?action=showredirect=ImportRootCert 3. http://wiki.cacert.org/FAQ/BrowserClients?action=showredirect=BrowserClients 4. http://www.cacert.org/index.php?id=3 Once you've imported accepted the cacert PKI key you should have no problem connecting to news.eternal-september.org s/ssl. Port : 563 (encrypted connection NNTPS) Port : 443 (encrypted connection NNTPS) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
