Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-12 Thread Nuno Silva
On 2020-03-02, Larry S. wrote:

> I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
> discovered that one preference expired today, and another one
> tomorrow. Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a
> while.)
>
> Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?
>
> Larry

On 2020-03-10, Larry S. wrote:

> Still get the message "You don't have permission to access Fox News on
> this server". Any thoughts on what to do now?
>
> I tried changing cookies to "Session Only", didn't work. I tried
> changing my UA string to read Firefox 72.0.1, didn't work.
>
> Any other thoughts?
> Larry


I can't reproduce this myself. But, from what I have found on the web so
far, this might be blacklisting by Akamai (which is used, among
others, by Fox News).

Akamai has a small javascript-driven text explaining this[1] and they
provide a tool to check the "reputation"[2]. You could try this tool to
see if this is indeed the problem. A couple results from other
sites[3,4] have some information as well.

[1] https://community.akamai.com/customers/s/article/Why-is-Akamai-blocking-me

[2] https://www.akamai.com/us/en/clientrep-lookup/ (requires javascript,
might show a captcha and takes some time to load the results)

[3] https://security.stackexchange.com/questions/197753

[4] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=15688362

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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-08 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Larry S. wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one 
tomorrow.

Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)

Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular 
site?


Larry



Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate? 
Preferences do

not expire.

You are, of course, correct. It was cookies, not preferences. A 
couple of cookies expired in the last day or so. Do they matter in 
terms of access to the Web site? (My access to Fox News was o.k. 
until today.)


Larry


It may be something other than cookies.  My cookies are session 
cookies only and I can view Fox News ok.  At the end of each session 
they are all deleted.  You could try changing your UA string to 
Firefox 72.0.1 instead of FF 52.0 and see if it helps.

How would I do that?
Larry


In the url bar, enter about:config
Enter general
Look for general.useragent.override and click on it.
Enter Firefox/72.0.1
Close and reopen SM and see if Fox News now works.
Make note of the changes that you made in case they do not work and 
you have to remove them.
O.K., it didn't work. Still get the message "You don't have permission 
to access Fox News on this server".

Any other thoughts?
And--how do I reverse the entry that I made? I entered SeaMonkey in the 
space where I put Firefox, but I don't see any effect.

Larry

Did you make written notes of your changes?
If so then reverse what you changed or just clear the override line.

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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
Hartmut Figge:

>Curious as I sometimes be I have tried to get that message. First asking
>ixquick about Fox News and then visiting https://www.foxnews.com/politics
>
>No problem with Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0)
>Gecko/2020030200 SeaMonkey/2.53.2-h

For testing I have changed my UA to yours. Still no problem.

Hartmut, next back to my own UA
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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-08 Thread Hartmut Figge
Larry S.:

>O.K., it didn't work. Still get the message "You don't have permission 
>to access Fox News on this server".
>Any other thoughts?

Curious as I sometimes be I have tried to get that message. First asking
ixquick about Fox News and then visiting https://www.foxnews.com/politics

No problem with Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0)
Gecko/2020030200 SeaMonkey/2.53.2-h

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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-08 Thread Larry S.

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one 
tomorrow.

Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)

Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular 
site?


Larry



Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate?  
Preferences do

not expire.

You are, of course, correct. It was cookies, not preferences. A 
couple of cookies expired in the last day or so. Do they matter in 
terms of access to the Web site? (My access to Fox News was o.k. 
until today.)


Larry


It may be something other than cookies.  My cookies are session 
cookies only and I can view Fox News ok.  At the end of each session 
they are all deleted.  You could try changing your UA string to 
Firefox 72.0.1 instead of FF 52.0 and see if it helps.

How would I do that?
Larry


In the url bar, enter about:config
Enter general
Look for general.useragent.override and click on it.
Enter Firefox/72.0.1
Close and reopen SM and see if Fox News now works.
Make note of the changes that you made in case they do not work and you 
have to remove them.
O.K., it didn't work. Still get the message "You don't have permission 
to access Fox News on this server".

Any other thoughts?
And--how do I reverse the entry that I made? I entered SeaMonkey in the 
space where I put Firefox, but I don't see any effect.

Larry
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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-05 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Larry S. wrote:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one 
tomorrow.

Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)

Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?

Larry



Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate?  Preferences do
not expire.

You are, of course, correct. It was cookies, not preferences. A 
couple of cookies expired in the last day or so. Do they matter in 
terms of access to the Web site? (My access to Fox News was o.k. 
until today.)


Larry


It may be something other than cookies.  My cookies are session 
cookies only and I can view Fox News ok.  At the end of each session 
they are all deleted.  You could try changing your UA string to 
Firefox 72.0.1 instead of FF 52.0 and see if it helps.

How would I do that?
Larry


In the url bar, enter about:config
Enter general
Look for general.useragent.override and click on it.
Enter Firefox/72.0.1
Close and reopen SM and see if Fox News now works.
Make note of the changes that you made in case they do not work and you 
have to remove them.

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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-05 Thread Larry S.

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one tomorrow.
Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)

Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?

Larry



Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate?  Preferences do
not expire.

You are, of course, correct. It was cookies, not preferences. A couple 
of cookies expired in the last day or so. Do they matter in terms of 
access to the Web site? (My access to Fox News was o.k. until today.)


Larry


It may be something other than cookies.  My cookies are session cookies 
only and I can view Fox News ok.  At the end of each session they are 
all deleted.  You could try changing your UA string to Firefox 72.0.1 
instead of FF 52.0 and see if it helps.

How would I do that?
Larry
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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-02 Thread Paul in Houston, TX

Larry S. wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one tomorrow.
Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)

Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?

Larry



Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate?  Preferences do
not expire.

You are, of course, correct. It was cookies, not preferences. A couple 
of cookies expired in the last day or so. Do they matter in terms of 
access to the Web site? (My access to Fox News was o.k. until today.)


Larry


It may be something other than cookies.  My cookies are session cookies 
only and I can view Fox News ok.  At the end of each session they are 
all deleted.  You could try changing your UA string to Firefox 72.0.1 
instead of FF 52.0 and see if it helps.

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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-02 Thread Larry S.

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one tomorrow.
Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)

Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?

Larry



Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate?  Preferences do
not expire.

You are, of course, correct. It was cookies, not preferences. A couple 
of cookies expired in the last day or so. Do they matter in terms of 
access to the Web site? (My access to Fox News was o.k. until today.)


Larry
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Re: Preference Expired

2020-03-02 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/2/2020 1:11 PM, Larry S. wrote:
> I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and 
> discovered that one preference expired today, and another one tomorrow. 
> Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)
> 
> Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?
> 
> Larry
> 

Are you sure it was a preference and not a certificate?  Preferences do
not expire.

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Preference Expired

2020-03-02 Thread Larry S.
I was suddenly denied access to Fox News. Checked my settings, and 
discovered that one preference expired today, and another one tomorrow. 
Permissions was blank. (No others expired for quite a while.)


Now what? How do I get an updated preference for that particular site?

Larry
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