Re: MS erodes choice

[NoOp]

On 9/1/2016 2:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> With new Windows 10 Anniversary Update MS Edge is being foisted upon us.
> You can set SeaMonkey as your default browser, but secure url shortcuts
> ALWAYS open in Edge! See attachment where you can see other installed
> browsers for HTTPS protocol but whatever you select I always stays as
> Edge. So far I have not found a way around this.
> 
> A demonstration of what I mean. Go to a secure website, Google is a easy
> choice, they now only use https. Drag a temporary shortcut to the
> desktop. Double click it and no matter what your default web browser is
> set for the link will open in Edge...
> 
> 

Works for me: Version 1607 OS Build 14393.105 - Settings|Default Apps:
Email/SeaMonkey Web browser/SeaMonkey


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Re: MS erodes choice

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ed Mullen wrote:

> Version 1607, Build 14393.105

Same here. Not sure why I had the trouble in the first place but I was
able to fix it with the help of Paul in the Win10 NG. Unfortunately it
was not straight forward as it should have been.

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Re: MS erodes choice

[Ed Mullen]

On 9/1/2016 at 9:11 PM, Jonathan N. Little's prodigious digits fired off:

Ed Mullen wrote:



Not seeing that here. W10 Pro latest updates


What is your build?

CTRL+R winver

Not everybody has been updated. I downloaded the ISO to do a clean
install because my upgrade was a CF...



Version 1607, Build 14393.105

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Re: MS erodes choice

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ralph Fox wrote:
> 
> I am not seeing that here.  Win 10 builds 14905, 14915.
> 
> Here is my version of the same picture, showing the HTTPS protocol is
> associated with Firefox not Edge. --->  http://i.imgur.com/99PjSpe.png

It would not change for me there, it kept reverting back to Edge.



You have to go the extra step deeper to 'Set Program Associations' in
order to fix. Also interestingly the fix is by using the 'Desktop' app
and not the new Metro settings interface which continuous to be
superfluous and useless feature.

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Re: MS erodes choice

[Ralph Fox]

On Thu, 1 Sep 2016 17:57:17 -0400, Jonathan N. Little wrote:


With new Windows 10 Anniversary Update MS Edge is being foisted upon us.
You can set SeaMonkey as your default browser, but secure url shortcuts
ALWAYS open in Edge! See attachment where you can see other installed
browsers for HTTPS protocol but whatever you select I always stays as
Edge. So far I have not found a way around this.

A demonstration of what I mean. Go to a secure website, Google is a easy
choice, they now only use https. Drag a temporary shortcut to the
desktop. Double click it and no matter what your default web browser is
set for the link will open in Edge...


I am not seeing that here.  Win 10 builds 14905, 14915.

Here is my version of the same picture, showing the HTTPS protocol is 
associated with Firefox not Edge. --->  http://i.imgur.com/99PjSpe.png


Interestingly, when I go to Google (a secure website), drag a temporary 
shortcut to the desktop and double-click it, it opens in K-Meleon my 
previous web browser (also Gecko-based).  So there is something 
inconsistent going on, but whatever it is, it is not MS forcing you to 
use Edge.  I am inclined to think that different parts of the registry 
have not been kept in sync with each other.


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Re: MS erodes choice

[Jonathan N. Little]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>
>> Not seeing that here. W10 Pro latest updates
> 
> What is your build?
> 
> CTRL+R winver
> 
> Not everybody has been updated. I downloaded the ISO to do a clean
> install because my upgrade was a CF...
> 

On the Windows10 NG got the fix...and of course using the REAL desktop
settings app



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Re: MS erodes choice

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ed Mullen wrote:
>>
> Not seeing that here. W10 Pro latest updates

What is your build?

CTRL+R winver

Not everybody has been updated. I downloaded the ISO to do a clean
install because my upgrade was a CF...

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Re: MS erodes choice

[Ed Mullen]

On 9/1/2016 at 5:57 PM, Jonathan N. Little's prodigious digits fired off:

With new Windows 10 Anniversary Update MS Edge is being foisted upon us.
You can set SeaMonkey as your default browser, but secure url shortcuts
ALWAYS open in Edge! See attachment where you can see other installed
browsers for HTTPS protocol but whatever you select I always stays as
Edge. So far I have not found a way around this.

A demonstration of what I mean. Go to a secure website, Google is a easy
choice, they now only use https. Drag a temporary shortcut to the
desktop. Double click it and no matter what your default web browser is
set for the link will open in Edge...



MS_Foistware.jpg



Not seeing that here. W10 Pro latest updates.

What I do see is W10's inability to remember default programs/file 
associations.  Click on an HTML file and I'm always asked what program 
to use.  I check the box to always remember but it won't.


This is simple shit. Microsoft is starting to piss me off.

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Re: MS erodes choice

[Jonathan N. Little]

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> With new Windows 10 Anniversary Update MS Edge is being foisted upon us.
>> You can set SeaMonkey as your default browser, but secure url shortcuts
>> ALWAYS open in Edge! See attachment where you can see other installed
>> browsers for HTTPS protocol but whatever you select I always stays as
>> Edge. So far I have not found a way around this.
>>
>> A demonstration of what I mean. Go to a secure website, Google is a easy
>> choice, they now only use https. Drag a temporary shortcut to the
>> desktop. Double click it and no matter what your default web browser is
>> set for the link will open in Edge...
> 
> Have you posted this in the w10 ng?
> Did not see it there.
> 

No I guess I must begrudgingly subscribe. I did scour Windows
forums...but all the "fixes" only work for pre-14393 build.

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