OT Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-20 Thread Jay Garcia
On 19.09.2010 22:36, Beverly Howard wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 then you must need coke-bottle-glasses 
 
 I sincerely hope that you store that thought someplace where you can
 reference it and reflect back on it in a few decades and reconsider it's
 impact on those with vision problems.
 
 Beverly Howard
 
 
 

First of all I wasn't speaking to you but rather having a lighthearted
conversation with Mr Shagnasty jibing back and forth, etc. I think if he
was offended then he would have said so but I think he took the comment
in jest like it was meant  .. we're in the same boat. And besides, I'm
already there, won't be here in those decades you mentioned when you
pulled the comment OUT of context to suit your own agenda.

Followup set to .general


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-20 Thread WLS

On 09/19/2010 10:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


I just did a Search in Seamonkey Add-Ons and NoSquint was a no-show.

Where does one find this, please?



here is control for No Squint when you on a website which can be
adjusted globally or customize for each site:

http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY


Looks great!

So, do I need to know the secret password? ;-)

Where do I get it, please?

Seamonkey Add-ons Search does not seem to know what it is.




After you go to this site:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html

scroll down until you this item the click on item show with item in this
screen shot:
http://screencast.com/t/MzI5YWJhMDMt



Why not just use Seamonkey's built in Zoom feature from the menu bar?

View  Zoom

Setting it to 90% allowed me to view the whole pop-up window.

Installing NoSquint and trying it had no effect for me. But then I am 
unfamiliar with it.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-20 Thread Phillip Jones

WLS wrote:

On 09/19/2010 10:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


I just did a Search in Seamonkey Add-Ons and NoSquint was a no-show.

Where does one find this, please?



here is control for No Squint when you on a website which can be
adjusted globally or customize for each site:

http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY


Looks great!

So, do I need to know the secret password? ;-)

Where do I get it, please?

Seamonkey Add-ons Search does not seem to know what it is.




After you go to this site:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html

scroll down until you this item the click on item show with item in this
screen shot:
http://screencast.com/t/MzI5YWJhMDMt



Why not just use Seamonkey's built in Zoom feature from the menu bar?

View  Zoom

Setting it to 90% allowed me to view the whole pop-up window.

Installing NoSquint and trying it had no effect for me. But then I am
unfamiliar with it.

WLS



does SM or FF have this ability:

http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY


setting Graphic and text zoom independently of each other In SM you can 
do one or the other but not both at the same time.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-20 Thread WLS

Phillip Jones wrote:

WLS wrote:

On 09/19/2010 10:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


I just did a Search in Seamonkey Add-Ons and NoSquint was a
no-show.

Where does one find this, please?



here is control for No Squint when you on a website which can be
adjusted globally or customize for each site:

http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY


Looks great!

So, do I need to know the secret password? ;-)

Where do I get it, please?

Seamonkey Add-ons Search does not seem to know what it is.




After you go to this site:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html

scroll down until you this item the click on item show with item in this
screen shot:
http://screencast.com/t/MzI5YWJhMDMt



Why not just use Seamonkey's built in Zoom feature from the menu bar?

View Zoom

Setting it to 90% allowed me to view the whole pop-up window.

Installing NoSquint and trying it had no effect for me. But then I am
unfamiliar with it.

WLS



does SM or FF have this ability:

http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY


setting Graphic and text zoom independently of each other In SM you can
do one or the other but not both at the same time.



What NoSquint setting did you use to view the pop-up window the OP was 
complaining about? Is it a graphic or text? If text how do I separate 
the pop-up from the page behind it?


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-20 Thread Phillip Jones

WLS wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

WLS wrote:

On 09/19/2010 10:47 PM, Phillip Jones wrote:

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


I just did a Search in Seamonkey Add-Ons and NoSquint was a
no-show.

Where does one find this, please?



here is control for No Squint when you on a website which can be
adjusted globally or customize for each site:

http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY


Looks great!

So, do I need to know the secret password? ;-)

Where do I get it, please?

Seamonkey Add-ons Search does not seem to know what it is.




After you go to this site:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html

scroll down until you this item the click on item show with item in this
screen shot:
http://screencast.com/t/MzI5YWJhMDMt



Why not just use Seamonkey's built in Zoom feature from the menu bar?

View  Zoom

Setting it to 90% allowed me to view the whole pop-up window.

Installing NoSquint and trying it had no effect for me. But then I am
unfamiliar with it.

WLS



does SM or FF have this ability:

http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY


setting Graphic and text zoom independently of each other In SM you can
do one or the other but not both at the same time.



What NoSquint setting did you use to view the pop-up window the OP was
complaining about? Is it a graphic or text? If text how do I separate
the pop-up from the page behind it?

WLS


No Squint doesn't have  anything to do with pop ups, only the content of 
web pages (other than it might make the content of the pop ups as a 
result.) It just has the ability to adjust the zoom level of Text and 
Graphics at differing levels.  and It can be set Globally or can be 
customized for each site you go to.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Jay Garcia wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 Using FF 3.6.10 here and looking at your screen shot I don't see the
 same thing(s), namely the topmost bar showing GV SHm L/D etc. The
 paragraph under the Baby brings miners ,etc. isn't cut off
 either. 
 
 So what's the deal with what you see and I don't? Mine looks ok to
 me.
 
 Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under
 the Baby (well, it's a different article now, but same thing
 happens). Assuming you have zoom set to _text_only_. The text
 increases in size but not the containing box. This is another
 webmaster/author fault for eschewing fluidity. Not a browser
 problem.
 
 Even tho it's a new article using ctrl+mouse wheel or crtl+ many times
 causes the page to increase in size quite fluidly, no problems.
 Perhaps it was just that particular article?

Menu:  View  Zoom  Zoom Text Only
which I mentioned several times. Does Zoom Text Only have a checkmark
next to it? If not, click on it to check it, and go look for another
article with a long (three lines?) description.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Jay Garcia
On 19.09.2010 07:48, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 Using FF 3.6.10 here and looking at your screen shot I don't see the
 same thing(s), namely the topmost bar showing GV SHm L/D etc. The
 paragraph under the Baby brings miners ,etc. isn't cut off
 either. 
 
 So what's the deal with what you see and I don't? Mine looks ok to
 me.
 
 Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under
 the Baby (well, it's a different article now, but same thing
 happens). Assuming you have zoom set to _text_only_. The text
 increases in size but not the containing box. This is another
 webmaster/author fault for eschewing fluidity. Not a browser
 problem.
 
 Even tho it's a new article using ctrl+mouse wheel or crtl+ many times
 causes the page to increase in size quite fluidly, no problems.
 Perhaps it was just that particular article?
 
 Menu:  View  Zoom  Zoom Text Only
 which I mentioned several times. Does Zoom Text Only have a checkmark
 next to it? If not, click on it to check it, and go look for another
 article with a long (three lines?) description.
 

Yah, missed that for whatever reason. Setting to text-only exhibits the
problem IF it's really a problem since there are many graphics/images on
the page. In a text-only environment you really don't need that function
anyways so why use it to begin with? If text is too small on a web page
I just use ctrl+mouse wheel anyway. Why would you need text-only ..
examples?

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Jay Garcia
On 19.09.2010 09:02, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 Using FF 3.6.10 here and looking at your screen shot I don't see
 the same thing(s), namely the topmost bar showing GV SHm L/D
 etc. The paragraph under the Baby brings miners ,etc. isn't
 cut off either. 
 
 So what's the deal with what you see and I don't? Mine looks ok
 to me.
 
 Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under
 the Baby (well, it's a different article now, but same thing
 happens). Assuming you have zoom set to _text_only_. The text
 increases in size but not the containing box. This is another
 webmaster/author fault for eschewing fluidity. Not a browser
 problem.
 
 Even tho it's a new article using ctrl+mouse wheel or crtl+ many
 times causes the page to increase in size quite fluidly, no
 problems. Perhaps it was just that particular article?
 
 Menu:  View  Zoom  Zoom Text Only
 which I mentioned several times. Does Zoom Text Only have a
 checkmark next to it? If not, click on it to check it, and go look
 for another article with a long (three lines?) description.
 
 Yah, missed that for whatever reason. Setting to text-only exhibits
 the problem IF it's really a problem since there are many
 graphics/images on the page. In a text-only environment you really
 don't need that function anyways so why use it to begin with? If text
 is too small on a web page I just use ctrl+mouse wheel anyway. Why
 would you need text-only .. examples?
 
 Coupla reasons I see for using text-only zoom:
 
 1) you're using, say, a 1000px browser window. Zooming _all_ increases
 the actual width of the page, so you have to utilize the horizontal
 scrollbar.

I can go along with that but geeze, if you have to size the text and
scrollbars appear then you must need coke-bottle-glasses.

 2) some images (low-res) do not zoom well and become pixelated or
 distorted.

But not interested in zooming images, that can be done with other
features/functions, etc.

 3) what's the main reason for wanting to zoom in the first place? Web
 author's tiny text that your eyes can't read.

Not saying that it is a useless feature globally but I have no use for
it ... so far. :-)

Insofar as pages like the CNN page(s) where text-only sizing is needed
then you have to go with the default re-size. I don't think anybody is
going to convince CNN programmers otherwise.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Jay Garcia wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 [biggasnip]
 Coupla reasons I see for using text-only zoom:
 
 1) you're using, say, a 1000px browser window. Zooming _all_
 increases the actual width of the page, so you have to utilize the
 horizontal scrollbar.
 
 I can go along with that but geeze, if you have to size the text and
 scrollbars appear then you must need coke-bottle-glasses. 

Case: a friend's mother, about 90 years old, uses a 24 CRT set at
800x600 because she loves to surf and to chat with great-grandchildren,
and has rather serious vision problems. I can read it from the other
side of the room. If she need to zoom the text and was set to zoom all,
she'd have scrollbars. Granted, this is an extreme case, but there is no
reason to exclude her from her activities.

My glasses are rather normal for a guy soon to be a septuagenarian.

 2) some images (low-res) do not zoom well and become pixelated or
 distorted.
 
 But not interested in zooming images, that can be done with other
 features/functions, etc.

Well, sure, but not every average surfer knows about them.

 3) what's the main reason for wanting to zoom in the first place? Web
 author's tiny text that your eyes can't read.
 
 Not saying that it is a useless feature globally but I have no use
 for it ... so far. :-) 

Wait until you're a 90+ great-grandmother!

 Insofar as pages like the CNN page(s) where text-only sizing is
 needed then you have to go with the default re-size. I don't think
 anybody is going to convince CNN programmers otherwise.

It's difficult to convince any web author of his/her shortcomings.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Jay Garcia
On 19.09.2010 11:29, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 [biggasnip]
 Coupla reasons I see for using text-only zoom:
 
 1) you're using, say, a 1000px browser window. Zooming _all_
 increases the actual width of the page, so you have to utilize the
 horizontal scrollbar.
 
 I can go along with that but geeze, if you have to size the text and
 scrollbars appear then you must need coke-bottle-glasses. 
 
 Case: a friend's mother, about 90 years old, uses a 24 CRT set at
 800x600 because she loves to surf and to chat with great-grandchildren,
 and has rather serious vision problems. I can read it from the other
 side of the room. If she need to zoom the text and was set to zoom all,
 she'd have scrollbars. Granted, this is an extreme case, but there is no
 reason to exclude her from her activities.
 
 My glasses are rather normal for a guy soon to be a septuagenarian.

We're in the same boat on both accounts.

 2) some images (low-res) do not zoom well and become pixelated or
 distorted.
 
 But not interested in zooming images, that can be done with other
 features/functions, etc.
 
 Well, sure, but not every average surfer knows about them.

Built-in feature of FF. Remember seeing the wand with the + in the middle?

 
 3) what's the main reason for wanting to zoom in the first place? Web
 author's tiny text that your eyes can't read.
 
 Not saying that it is a useless feature globally but I have no use
 for it ... so far. :-) 
 
 Wait until you're a 90+ great-grandmother!

You mean I have to have a sex change too? My Mom is a 91 yo GGM and her
prescription hasn't changed in over 20 years, still sharp.

 Insofar as pages like the CNN page(s) where text-only sizing is
 needed then you have to go with the default re-size. I don't think
 anybody is going to convince CNN programmers otherwise.
 
 It's difficult to convince any web author of his/her shortcomings.
 


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Phillip Jones

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 19.09.2010 09:02, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

Using FF 3.6.10 here and looking at your screen shot I don't see
the same thing(s), namely the topmost bar showing GV SHm L/D
etc. The paragraph under the Baby brings miners ,etc. isn't
cut off either.

So what's the deal with what you see and I don't? Mine looks ok
to me.


Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under
the Baby (well, it's a different article now, but same thing
happens). Assuming you have zoom set to _text_only_. The text
increases in size but not the containing box. This is another
webmaster/author fault for eschewing fluidity. Not a browser
problem.


Even tho it's a new article using ctrl+mouse wheel or crtl+ many
times causes the page to increase in size quite fluidly, no
problems. Perhaps it was just that particular article?


Menu:  View  Zoom  Zoom Text Only
which I mentioned several times. Does Zoom Text Only have a
checkmark next to it? If not, click on it to check it, and go look
for another article with a long (three lines?) description.


Yah, missed that for whatever reason. Setting to text-only exhibits
the problem IF it's really a problem since there are many
graphics/images on the page. In a text-only environment you really
don't need that function anyways so why use it to begin with? If text
is too small on a web page I just use ctrl+mouse wheel anyway. Why
would you need text-only .. examples?


Coupla reasons I see for using text-only zoom:

1) you're using, say, a 1000px browser window. Zooming _all_ increases
the actual width of the page, so you have to utilize the horizontal
scrollbar.


I can go along with that but geeze, if you have to size the text and
scrollbars appear then you must need coke-bottle-glasses.


2) some images (low-res) do not zoom well and become pixelated or
distorted.


But not interested in zooming images, that can be done with other
features/functions, etc.


3) what's the main reason for wanting to zoom in the first place? Web
author's tiny text that your eyes can't read.


Not saying that it is a useless feature globally but I have no use for
it ... so far. :-)

Insofar as pages like the CNN page(s) where text-only sizing is needed
then you have to go with the default re-size. I don't think anybody is
going to convince CNN programmers otherwise.

Anyone think about the possibility of using NOSquint Extension? It has 
the options to zoom Text, Images, or both and you can set the images to 
zoom at one level and the Text at another level.


Were it not for NoSquint I wouldn't be able to read post on the Mactopia 
Forums for Mac Office Products.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Ed Mullen

Phillip Jones wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 19.09.2010 09:02, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

Using FF 3.6.10 here and looking at your screen shot I don't see
the same thing(s), namely the topmost bar showing GV SHm L/D
etc. The paragraph under the Baby brings miners ,etc. isn't
cut off either.

So what's the deal with what you see and I don't? Mine looks ok
to me.


Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under
the Baby (well, it's a different article now, but same thing
happens). Assuming you have zoom set to _text_only_. The text
increases in size but not the containing box. This is another
webmaster/author fault for eschewing fluidity. Not a browser
problem.


Even tho it's a new article using ctrl+mouse wheel or crtl+ many
times causes the page to increase in size quite fluidly, no
problems. Perhaps it was just that particular article?


Menu: View Zoom Zoom Text Only
which I mentioned several times. Does Zoom Text Only have a
checkmark next to it? If not, click on it to check it, and go look
for another article with a long (three lines?) description.


Yah, missed that for whatever reason. Setting to text-only exhibits
the problem IF it's really a problem since there are many
graphics/images on the page. In a text-only environment you really
don't need that function anyways so why use it to begin with? If text
is too small on a web page I just use ctrl+mouse wheel anyway. Why
would you need text-only .. examples?


Coupla reasons I see for using text-only zoom:

1) you're using, say, a 1000px browser window. Zooming _all_ increases
the actual width of the page, so you have to utilize the horizontal
scrollbar.


I can go along with that but geeze, if you have to size the text and
scrollbars appear then you must need coke-bottle-glasses.


2) some images (low-res) do not zoom well and become pixelated or
distorted.


But not interested in zooming images, that can be done with other
features/functions, etc.


3) what's the main reason for wanting to zoom in the first place? Web
author's tiny text that your eyes can't read.


Not saying that it is a useless feature globally but I have no use for
it ... so far. :-)

Insofar as pages like the CNN page(s) where text-only sizing is needed
then you have to go with the default re-size. I don't think anybody is
going to convince CNN programmers otherwise.


Anyone think about the possibility of using NOSquint Extension? It has
the options to zoom Text, Images, or both and you can set the images to
zoom at one level and the Text at another level.

Were it not for NoSquint I wouldn't be able to read post on the Mactopia
Forums for Mac Office Products.



I use it.  I like it so much I've almost forgotten it's installed.  It 
just works.


I'm barely optically challenged.  I wear glasses but my corrected vision 
is good.  I have glasses I only wear for computing.  But, there are so 
many sites whose authors cluelessly set font sizes so small that it 
feels like the pages are sucking my eyeballs out of my head that I 
really needed a solution.  That extension is it.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread d...@kd4e.com

 Ed Mullen wrote:



Anyone think about the possibility of using NOSquint Extension? It has
the options to zoom Text, Images, or both and you can set the images to
zoom at one level and the Text at another level.

Were it not for NoSquint I wouldn't be able to read post on the Mactopia
Forums for Mac Office Products.



I use it. I like it so much I've almost forgotten it's installed. It
just works.

I'm barely optically challenged. I wear glasses but my corrected vision
is good. I have glasses I only wear for computing. But, there are so
many sites whose authors cluelessly set font sizes so small that it
feels like the pages are sucking my eyeballs out of my head that I
really needed a solution. That extension is it.


I just did a Search in Seamonkey Add-Ons and NoSquint was a no-show.

Where does one find this, please?

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Phillip Jones

Ed Mullen wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 19.09.2010 09:02, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

--- Original Message ---


Jay Garcia wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

Using FF 3.6.10 here and looking at your screen shot I don't see
the same thing(s), namely the topmost bar showing GV SHm L/D
etc. The paragraph under the Baby brings miners ,etc. isn't
cut off either.

So what's the deal with what you see and I don't? Mine looks ok
to me.


Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under
the Baby (well, it's a different article now, but same thing
happens). Assuming you have zoom set to _text_only_. The text
increases in size but not the containing box. This is another
webmaster/author fault for eschewing fluidity. Not a browser
problem.


Even tho it's a new article using ctrl+mouse wheel or crtl+ many
times causes the page to increase in size quite fluidly, no
problems. Perhaps it was just that particular article?


Menu: View  Zoom  Zoom Text Only
which I mentioned several times. Does Zoom Text Only have a
checkmark next to it? If not, click on it to check it, and go look
for another article with a long (three lines?) description.


Yah, missed that for whatever reason. Setting to text-only exhibits
the problem IF it's really a problem since there are many
graphics/images on the page. In a text-only environment you really
don't need that function anyways so why use it to begin with? If text
is too small on a web page I just use ctrl+mouse wheel anyway. Why
would you need text-only .. examples?


Coupla reasons I see for using text-only zoom:

1) you're using, say, a 1000px browser window. Zooming _all_ increases
the actual width of the page, so you have to utilize the horizontal
scrollbar.


I can go along with that but geeze, if you have to size the text and
scrollbars appear then you must need coke-bottle-glasses.


2) some images (low-res) do not zoom well and become pixelated or
distorted.


But not interested in zooming images, that can be done with other
features/functions, etc.


3) what's the main reason for wanting to zoom in the first place? Web
author's tiny text that your eyes can't read.


Not saying that it is a useless feature globally but I have no use for
it ... so far. :-)

Insofar as pages like the CNN page(s) where text-only sizing is needed
then you have to go with the default re-size. I don't think anybody is
going to convince CNN programmers otherwise.


Anyone think about the possibility of using NOSquint Extension? It has
the options to zoom Text, Images, or both and you can set the images to
zoom at one level and the Text at another level.

Were it not for NoSquint I wouldn't be able to read post on the Mactopia
Forums for Mac Office Products.



I use it.  I like it so much I've almost forgotten it's installed.  It
just works.

I'm barely optically challenged.  I wear glasses but my corrected vision
is good.  I have glasses I only wear for computing.  But, there are so
many sites whose authors cluelessly set font sizes so small that it
feels like the pages are sucking my eyeballs out of my head that I
really needed a solution.  That extension is it.

I have a recently developed an astigmatism on my right eye. caused with 
a bout with a a boil on my eye lid because of the pressure of the boil 
it deformed lens of my eye with my glasses at close quarters my eye 
sight is still affected.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Phillip Jones

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:



Anyone think about the possibility of using NOSquint Extension? It has
the options to zoom Text, Images, or both and you can set the images to
zoom at one level and the Text at another level.

Were it not for NoSquint I wouldn't be able to read post on the Mactopia
Forums for Mac Office Products.



I use it. I like it so much I've almost forgotten it's installed. It
just works.

I'm barely optically challenged. I wear glasses but my corrected vision
is good. I have glasses I only wear for computing. But, there are so
many sites whose authors cluelessly set font sizes so small that it
feels like the pages are sucking my eyeballs out of my head that I
really needed a solution. That extension is it.


I just did a Search in Seamonkey Add-Ons and NoSquint was a no-show.

Where does one find this, please?


go to addons Manager and click on the Get Addons.
 when window opens type in No Squint.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Phillip Jones

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:



Anyone think about the possibility of using NOSquint Extension? It has
the options to zoom Text, Images, or both and you can set the images to
zoom at one level and the Text at another level.

Were it not for NoSquint I wouldn't be able to read post on the Mactopia
Forums for Mac Office Products.



I use it. I like it so much I've almost forgotten it's installed. It
just works.

I'm barely optically challenged. I wear glasses but my corrected vision
is good. I have glasses I only wear for computing. But, there are so
many sites whose authors cluelessly set font sizes so small that it
feels like the pages are sucking my eyeballs out of my head that I
really needed a solution. That extension is it.


I just did a Search in Seamonkey Add-Ons and NoSquint was a no-show.

Where does one find this, please?



here is control for No Squint when you on a website which can be 
adjusted globally or customize for each site:


http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread d...@kd4e.com

Phillip Jones wrote:


I just did a Search in Seamonkey Add-Ons and NoSquint was a no-show.

Where does one find this, please?



here is control for No Squint when you on a website which can be
adjusted globally or customize for each site:

http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY


Looks great!

So, do I need to know the secret password?  ;-)

Where do I get it, please?

Seamonkey Add-ons Search does not seem to know what it is.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Phillip Jones

d...@kd4e.com wrote:

Phillip Jones wrote:


I just did a Search in Seamonkey Add-Ons and NoSquint was a no-show.

Where does one find this, please?



here is control for No Squint when you on a website which can be
adjusted globally or customize for each site:

http://screencast.com/t/YjUwZWZhMTY


Looks great!

So, do I need to know the secret password?  ;-)

Where do I get it, please?

Seamonkey Add-ons Search does not seem to know what it is.




After you go to this site:
http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmisc.html

scroll down until you this item the click on item show with item in this 
screen shot:

http://screencast.com/t/MzI5YWJhMDMt

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-19 Thread Beverly Howard

 then you must need coke-bottle-glasses 

I sincerely hope that you store that thought someplace where you can 
reference it and reflect back on it in a few decades and reconsider it's 
impact on those with vision problems.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Beverly Howard
 I could still use the scroll bars to view various parts of the main 
page... 


CNN and a number of other major sites have the same issues as shown by 
the clip at http://bevhoward.com/stuff/images/CNNFont.jpg


 notify the site 

From my experience, life isn't like that... on high volume sites such 
as cnn and fox in my opinion (and from my experiences) it's unlikely 
that a human will see such a comment and even if they do, it's unlikely 
that they will care enough to forward it much less take action to 
address the issues.


 options 

Sometimes it is possible to use ctrlminus but, even that does not 
work on the source page for the above image with my font settings.


Other options are to use view in ie or ctrl-A then paste into a text 
editor if you really need to see the text.


Beverly Howard








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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Jay Garcia
On 18.09.2010 12:10, Beverly Howard wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 I could still use the scroll bars to view various parts of the main
 page... 
 
 CNN and a number of other major sites have the same issues as shown by
 the clip at http://bevhoward.com/stuff/images/CNNFont.jpg
 
 notify the site 
 
 From my experience, life isn't like that... on high volume sites such as
 cnn and fox in my opinion (and from my experiences) it's unlikely that a
 human will see such a comment and even if they do, it's unlikely that
 they will care enough to forward it much less take action to address the
 issues.
 
 options 
 
 Sometimes it is possible to use ctrlminus but, even that does not
 work on the source page for the above image with my font settings.
 
 Other options are to use view in ie or ctrl-A then paste into a text
 editor if you really need to see the text.
 
 Beverly Howard
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Using FF 3.6.10 here and looking at your screen shot I don't see the
same thing(s), namely the topmost bar showing GV SHm L/D etc. The
paragraph under the Baby brings miners ,etc. isn't cut off either.

So what's the deal with what you see and I don't? Mine looks ok to me.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Jay Garcia
On 18.09.2010 12:10, Beverly Howard wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 I could still use the scroll bars to view various parts of the main
 page... 
 
 CNN and a number of other major sites have the same issues as shown by
 the clip at http://bevhoward.com/stuff/images/CNNFont.jpg
 
 notify the site 
 
 From my experience, life isn't like that... on high volume sites such as
 cnn and fox in my opinion (and from my experiences) it's unlikely that a
 human will see such a comment and even if they do, it's unlikely that
 they will care enough to forward it much less take action to address the
 issues.
 
 options 
 
 Sometimes it is possible to use ctrlminus but, even that does not
 work on the source page for the above image with my font settings.
 
 Other options are to use view in ie or ctrl-A then paste into a text
 editor if you really need to see the text.
 
 Beverly Howard
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

Never mind on that upper bar, just realized that's your personal toolbar
.. :-(


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Jay Garcia wrote:

 Using FF 3.6.10 here and looking at your screen shot I don't see the
 same thing(s), namely the topmost bar showing GV SHm L/D etc. The
 paragraph under the Baby brings miners ,etc. isn't cut off
 either. 
 
 So what's the deal with what you see and I don't? Mine looks ok to
 me.

Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under the
Baby (well, it's a different article now, but same thing happens).
Assuming you have zoom set to _text_only_. The text increases in size
but not the containing box. This is another webmaster/author fault for
eschewing fluidity. Not a browser problem.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Beverly Howard
 Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under 
the Baby 


Control-Pluses ?? Control-Minus perhaps?

Tried it... multiple Control-Minus still leave the last line hidden.

fwiw, I'm resigned to living with it and have an arsenal of options, 
including blacklisting sites, on my end as that ends up being the only 
real option.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Beverly Howard wrote:

[Please stop removing attributes! Thank you for your consideration.]
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under 
 the Baby 
 
 Control-Pluses ?? Control-Minus perhaps?

No, I meant Pluses. You see, my default size showed all the text under
the Baby photo, whereas your default size is likely quite a bit larger
than mine, so Minuses are necessary to bring it *down* to size to see it
all. And further note my comment (that you snipped) about zooming text
only, and not the entire page.

 Tried it... multiple Control-Minus still leave the last line hidden.

Zoom text only.

 fwiw, I'm resigned to living with it and have an arsenal of options,
 including blacklisting sites, on my end as that ends up being the
 only real option.

That's the defeatist way!   lol

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:



The pop-up window in question (click the Login link at the Fox News
page http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ that the OP supplied). Note
it's not the kind of window you're thinking about. Heck, it isn't
a window at all; it's a JavaScript display embedded right in the
page itself.


That's what you say, but when I disable JavaScript in the browser, the
page behaves the same way.


Hmmm?  I get no login window at all, with JavaScript disabled - in three
different browsers. Are you sure you had it disabled? (Easy to do if you
use the PrefBar extension.) Are you clicking the Login link up in the
upper-right corner of the page?


It matters a lot when you do the disabling.

For example, if I load the page, click Login, and THEN disable 
JavaScript, the script is already running and the change has no effect 
(disabling js doesn't terminate running scripts, it just prevents new 
launches). If I disable JavaScript before clicking Login, nothing 
happens, as you say.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 It matters a lot when you do the disabling.

Well ... yeah.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Ralph Fox
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 11:42:25 -0400, in message 
news://news.mozilla.org:119/mailman.3743.1284738278.19132.support-seamon...@lists.mozilla.org 
d...@kd4e.com wrote:



On this site:
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/

... the pop-up window to fill out your E-mail address when
you've forgotten your password will not move or scroll to
bring the lower part of the pop-up into view.

What might be causing that, please?


It is caused by the way the web page has been written.

What you can do, when you are ready to fill out your e-mail address 
on this site, is to first enter the following line in the location 
bar and press ENTER.


javascript:{document.getElementById(login-provider).style[position]=relative;void(0);}

After you do this, you will have to scroll down to the bottom of the 
main window to find the pop-up again -- AND -- you will be able to 
use the main window's scrollbar to scroll up and down over the 
pop-up.




I am using 2.0.8 in Limux.


It is the same on other browsers and operating systems.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-18 Thread Jay Garcia
On 18.09.2010 12:45, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Jay Garcia wrote:
 
 Using FF 3.6.10 here and looking at your screen shot I don't see the
 same thing(s), namely the topmost bar showing GV SHm L/D etc. The
 paragraph under the Baby brings miners ,etc. isn't cut off
 either. 
 
 So what's the deal with what you see and I don't? Mine looks ok to
 me.
 
 Go about two Control-Pluses and see what happens to the text under the
 Baby (well, it's a different article now, but same thing happens).
 Assuming you have zoom set to _text_only_. The text increases in size
 but not the containing box. This is another webmaster/author fault for
 eschewing fluidity. Not a browser problem.
 

Even tho it's a new article using ctrl+mouse wheel or crtl+ many times
causes the page to increase in size quite fluidly, no problems. Perhaps
it was just that particular article?

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
d...@kd4e.com wrote:

 On this site:
 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/
 
 ... the pop-up window to fill out your E-mail address when you've
 forgotten your password will not move or scroll to bring the lower
 part of the pop-up into view. 
 
 What might be causing that, please? 

It's the JavaScript that brings up the window. It is hardcoded to a
certain height (and width - centered), and if it doesn't fit in your
viewport, you must have a rather (vertically) short browser window. Lots
of toolbars?

There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser canvas
taller.

 I am using 2.0.8 in Limux.

Limux?   :-)

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Philip Chee
On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:27:19 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

 There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser canvas
 taller.

open about:config
filter for:
dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

toggle it to true

Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
preferences.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Philip Chee wrote:


On Fri, 17 Sep 2010 12:27:19 -0400, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:


There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser canvas
taller.


open about:config
filter for:
dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

toggle it to true

Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
preferences.


See also
Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts  Plugins
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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 Philip Chee wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser
 canvas taller.

 open about:config
 filter for:
 dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

 toggle it to true

(It was already true.)

 Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
 preferences.
 
 See also
 Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts  Plugins
 and check/uncheck boxes as desired.

Neither of you fellas looked at the page in question, did ya?  g
The pop-up window in question (click the Login link at the Fox News
page http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ that the OP supplied). Note it's
not the kind of window you're thinking about. Heck, it isn't a
window at all; it's a JavaScript display embedded right in the page
itself.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Beverly Howard

 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ 

Several parts of this page are completely unreadable on my system, due 
primarily to my need to use large font settings.


This is a classic case of the web designers being oblivious to the 
possibility that anyone viewing their site is using anything other than 
a computer that has had no changes such as font size increases and they 
are using ie as their browser.


...fortunately, I would have never visited this site had it not been for 
this thread ;-)


Beverly Howard


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:


Philip Chee wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser
canvas taller.


open about:config
filter for:
dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

toggle it to true


(It was already true.)


Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
preferences.


See also
Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts  Plugins
and check/uncheck boxes as desired.


Neither of you fellas looked at the page in question, did ya?g


I'm allergic to Fox Noise, sorry. I just took the OP's word for it that 
we were talking about a JavaScript popup.



The pop-up window in question (click the Login link at the Fox News
page http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ that the OP supplied). Note it's
not the kind of window you're thinking about. Heck, it isn't a
window at all; it's a JavaScript display embedded right in the page
itself.


That's what you say, but when I disable JavaScript in the browser, the 
page behaves the same way. I thought it was pretty cute that after a 
couple of CTRL-plusses to increase the font size, I could still use the 
scroll bars to view various parts of the main page, but the popup as 
you call it stayed put off the edge of the screen. Nifty trick.


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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Beauregard T. Shagnasty
Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
 There isn't anything you can do about it except make your browser
 canvas taller.

 open about:config
 filter for:
 dom.disable_window_open_feature.resizable

 toggle it to true

 (It was already true.)

 Also worth looking at the other dom.disable_window_open_feature.*
 preferences.

 See also
 Edit | Preferences | Advanced | Scripts  Plugins
 and check/uncheck boxes as desired.

 Neither of you fellas looked at the page in question, did ya?g
 
 I'm allergic to Fox Noise, sorry. I just took the OP's word for it
 that we were talking about a JavaScript popup.

The OP didn't know what kind of window it was...  :-)

 The pop-up window in question (click the Login link at the Fox News
 page http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ that the OP supplied). Note
 it's not the kind of window you're thinking about. Heck, it isn't
 a window at all; it's a JavaScript display embedded right in the
 page itself.
 
 That's what you say, but when I disable JavaScript in the browser, the 
 page behaves the same way.

Hmmm?  I get no login window at all, with JavaScript disabled - in three
different browsers. Are you sure you had it disabled? (Easy to do if you
use the PrefBar extension.) Are you clicking the Login link up in the
upper-right corner of the page?

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread Leonidas Jones
Beverly Howard b...@bevhoward.com wrote:
 http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/ 
 
 Several parts of this page are completely unreadable on my system, due
 primarily to my need to use large font settings.
 
 This is a classic case of the web designers being oblivious to the
 possibility that anyone viewing their site is using anything other
 than a computer that has had no changes such as font size increases
 and they are using ie as their browser.
 
 ...fortunately, I would have never visited this site had it not been
 for this thread ;-)
 
 Beverly Howard

Even so, it would be worth contacting Fox on this, explaining you
problem in detail.

It's an accessibility issue, and folks like that tend to be very
sensitive to that.  While you don't visit there, it might well help
others with similar issues.

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Re: Pop Up Window Won't Scroll

2010-09-17 Thread JeffM
doc@ kd4e.com wrote:
I am using 2.0.8 in Limux.

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
Limux?   :-)

Well, he might not be using it, but it's a real thing.
It's a spin of Debian produced by the City of Munich
with an eye on mass migration off of Windoze
and other closed-source payware.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LiMux
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