Re: Problem with ol
On 11/3/10 7:01 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: David E. Ross wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: David E. Ross wrote: In any case, get rid of the /p, /li, /dd, and /dt tags. They are not needed. Their presence makes your page look like tag soup. I agree with the rest of what you wrote, except for the above. All elements should be closed, having an opening tag and a closing tag. If you don't, you would fail Strict validation. pThis is a paragraph./p From the W3C HTML 4.01 specification: 9.3.1 Paragraphs: the P element ... Start tag: required, End tag: optional See http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/text.html#h-9.3.1. Yes, I know what the spec says. But if you don't use closing tags in your coding, it's like trying to read a group of sentences without periods at the end. I did say should be closed, not must. Oh, and if you ever have thoughts about advancing to XHTML or HTML 5, you'll have to reinsert all those closing tags you took out. The advice in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html is against using XHTML unless what is wanted cannot possibly be obtained with HTML 4.01. HTML 5 is still in draft form as of 19 October. The test cases have not all been developed yet, and some existing test cases might have to be revised. Some W3C people have strongly objected to Micro$oft claiming that IE 9 is fully HTML 5 compliant when the test suite is incomplete and thus cannot support such a claim. Given all that, I will not use HTML 5 until it is finished, until it is a W3C formal recommendation. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ I am again filtering and ignoring all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of the amount of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
On 11/4/10 11:59 AM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: David E. Ross wrote: The advice in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html is against using XHTML unless what is wanted cannot possibly be obtained with HTML 4.01. Yes, I know I've also been reading those groups for over a decade You snipped out my example about reading a group of sentences without periods at the end Perhaps that is none of your concern;-) While you keep snipping content from my replies, I snipped NOTHING from yours. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ I am again filtering and ignoring all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of the amount of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
[03.11.2010 13:22] »Hana Skoumalova« wrote: Hello, I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana I' m on Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101026 Firefox/3.6.12 and no problem with the page ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
gNeandr wrote: [03.11.2010 13:22] »Hana Skoumalova« wrote: Hello, I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana I' m on Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101026 Firefox/3.6.12 and no problem with the page No problem with the page on Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.0; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 either -- /Arne ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Hana Skoumalova wrote: I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. It works fine for me, in several browsers. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). Look more closely. I found numerous errors in your HTML: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html There appear to be no errors in your CSS: http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?profile=css21warning=0uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Perhaps you would want to consider not using XHTML. http://tekrider.net/html/doctype.php -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Hana Skoumalova wrote: Hello, I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 Firefox/3.6.7 Lightning/1.1a1pre SeaMonkey/2.0.10 ID:20101027073647 I also see 13 as garbled:- http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142274367/sizes/l/in/photostream/ and the code looks excellent to me. Barry. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142878112/sizes/z/in/photostream/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Hana Skoumalova wrote: I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. It works fine for me, in several browsers. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). Look more closely. I found numerous errors in your HTML: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html I repent my sins, but now, I've corrected all errors and SM is still displaying that page incorrectly. The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Hana Skoumalova wrote: The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana Displays fine for me on Windows XP SP3 SM 2.0.10 Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 Lightning/1.0b2pre NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 - Build ID: 20101027121512 -- You either teach people to treat you with dignity and respect, or you don't. This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the hands of someone else. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Hana Skoumalova wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Hana Skoumalova wrote: I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. It works fine for me, in several browsers. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). Look more closely. I found numerous errors in your HTML: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html I repent my sins, but now, I've corrected all errors and SM is still displaying that page incorrectly. The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html I can confirm that the validator now says there are no errors, but the 13 still displays as the same garbled offset into the text. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142971698/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142274367/sizes/l/in/photostream/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Le 3 novembre 2010, Beauregard T. Shagnasty a écrit : Hana Skoumalova wrote: I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. It works fine for me, in several browsers. What SM version did you try and on which OS? She already stated other browsers do work: I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). -- LL ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Hana Skoumalova wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Hana Skoumalova wrote: I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. It works fine for me, in several browsers. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). Look more closely. I found numerous errors in your HTML: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html I repent my sins, but now, I've corrected all errors and SM is still displaying that page incorrectly. The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html I can confirm that the validator now says there are no errors, but the 13 still displays as the same garbled offset into the text. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142971698/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142274367/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Confirmed here with SM 2.0.10 - no errors, and the 13 at the bottom of the page overlaps the item text. -JW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote: Hana Skoumalova wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Hana Skoumalova wrote: I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. It works fine for me, in several browsers. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). Look more closely. I found numerous errors in your HTML: http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html I repent my sins, but now, I've corrected all errors and SM is still displaying that page incorrectly. The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana http://validator.w3.org/check?verbose=1uri=http%3A%2F%2Futkl.ff.cuni.cz%2F~skoumal%2Fcsts-faq.html I can confirm that the validator now says there are no errors, but the 13 still displays as the same garbled offset into the text. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142971698/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5142274367/sizes/l/in/photostream/ Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 Firefox/3.6.7 Lightning/1.1a1pre SeaMonkey/2.0.10 ID:20101027073647 whatever it is, is getting worse (as reported by Lucas), with 9 10 and 13 now all moving across into the display-data content. http://www.flickr.com/photos/22198...@n03/5143118132/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
On 11/3/10 4:22 AM, Hana Skoumalova wrote: Hello, I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 No XHTML errors. No CSS errors. I do not see the problem, either in the list of items at the top or the detailed Q and A below. Further, I see a sublist under the details of item #2, running from 1 to 15; I do not see the problem there. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ I am again filtering and ignoring all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of the amount of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Lucas Levrel wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty a écrit : Hana Skoumalova wrote: I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. It works fine for me, in several browsers. What SM version did you try and on which OS? She already stated other browsers do work: On the computer currently available, 1.1.17 in Ubuntu Linux. The later SeaMonkey is on my wife's computer, not currently on. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Hana Skoumalova wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: Hana Skoumalova wrote: I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. Please state whether you see the strange 13 in the FAQ subjectol at the top of the page, or in the Q/A at the end of the page. Just to be certain. In the Q/A part at the bottom. I am trying the page at home and I see the same error. After upgrading to SM 2.0.10 I can see the same error at the item no. 10, as well. And I can see the same error in FF (version 3.16.12 for Ubuntu), with items 10 and 11. I see, now no errors. But is it my imagination, or were you using XHTML 1.0 *Strict* when I first looked at your page? It is now Transitional, which is for use with legacy pages. Did you read my suggestions about using HTML 4.01 Strict instead? HTML should give you greater cross-browser conformity. Yes, I changed Strict to Transitional to get rid of the last three errors, which however concerned the tag link and which probably didn't have any influence on the strange behaviour of ol items. This page will become a part of a larger web page, which uses XHTML, but I will try HTML to see what happens. Another tip you might want to consider: instead of using #q1 #q2 and so forth, use real words (no numbers) related to each of the FAQ points. (I don't read your language, so can't suggest any.) This way, if you later want to add another FAQ in the middle of the list, you won't have to renumber all the rest that come after it. Oh yeah, I will think about it. :-) Hana ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Hana Skoumalova wrote: This page will become a part of a larger web page, which uses XHTML, but I will try HTML to see what happens. Still no joy. Hana ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Wed, 03 Nov 2010 13:22:10 +0100, /Hana Skoumalova/:
I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with
displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed
correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to
the right into the text.
I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also
tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they
display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items).
The page showing the problem is at this address:
http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html
Although it looks just o.k. to me, could you try to apply the
following style rule in addition:
li {
clear: both;
}
I can only guess some font differences could cause the floated DTs
to descend below the containing DL/LI so the text in the marker of
the following box (LI) gets shifted. Floats are not as innocent as
they may look and they actually cause most of the problems I've
seen... especially with IE. :-)
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Re: Problem with ol
Lucas Levrel wrote: Le 3 novembre 2010, Hana Skoumalova a écrit : I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Here both 10 and 13 are shifted to the right! Tested on 2.0.6 then 2.0.10 (your post made me realize I was still using 2.0.6). I use: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; fr; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101026 SUSE/2.0.10-1.1 NOT Firefox/3.5 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 Maybe you should post your SM string. At home, it is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 I use these extensions: Adblock Plus, Autofill Forms, DownloadHelper, FlashGot, No Tooltip Timeout, SQLite Manager, and the Mostly Crystal theme. Did you try with a fresh profile? Yes, I did, but it didn't help. Hana ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
Wed, 03 Nov 2010 13:22:10 +0100, /Hana Skoumalova/:
I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with
displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed
correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to
the right into the text.
I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also
tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they
display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items).
The page showing the problem is at this address:
http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html
Although it looks just o.k. to me, could you try to apply the following
style rule in addition:
li {
clear: both;
}
This helped. Thank you, Stanimir! First, it looked as a SM's fault, but
now, it seems to be my mistake. I will remeber this.
Hana
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Re: Problem with ol
On 11/3/10 7:42 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 11/3/10 4:22 AM, Hana Skoumalova wrote: Hello, I use SM 2.0.3 on Linux and I encountered a strange problem with displaying items in ordered list (ol). Twelve items are displayed correctly, but the thirteenth looks strange: the number 13 is pushed to the right into the text. I tried to find an error in my code, but I couldn't find any. I also tried other browsers (FF, Google Chrome, FF on XP and IE) and they display the item correctly (or at least the same way as other items). The page showing the problem is at this address: http://utkl.ff.cuni.cz/~skoumal/csts-faq.html Hana Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.1.15) Gecko/20101027 SeaMonkey/2.0.10 No XHTML errors. No CSS errors. I do not see the problem, either in the list of items at the top or the detailed Q and A below. Further, I see a sublist under the details of item #2, running from 1 to 15; I do not see the problem there. With IE 7, the numbers for the detailed Q and A appear one line above the Q, which is likely not what you want. I suggest you NOT use the dldtdd combination for the Q and A terms. This combination should be used only for defining terms. The Q is not a term to be defined, and the A is not a definition. Furthermore, this combination is supposed to be for a LIST of terms and definitions; but you haved coded a single term and definition for each list. In any case, get rid of the /p, /li, /dd, and /dt tags. They are not needed. Their presence makes your page look like tag soup. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ I am again filtering and ignoring all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of the amount of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
David E. Ross wrote: In any case, get rid of the /p, /li, /dd, and /dt tags. They are not needed. Their presence makes your page look like tag soup. I agree with the rest of what you wrote, except for the above. All elements should be closed, having an opening tag and a closing tag. If you don't, you would fail Strict validation. pThis is a paragraph./p -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
On 11/3/10 2:26 PM, Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: David E. Ross wrote: In any case, get rid of the /p, /li, /dd, and /dt tags. They are not needed. Their presence makes your page look like tag soup. I agree with the rest of what you wrote, except for the above. All elements should be closed, having an opening tag and a closing tag. If you don't, you would fail Strict validation. pThis is a paragraph./p From the W3C HTML 4.01 specification: 9.3.1 Paragraphs: the P element ... Start tag: required, End tag: optional See http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/text.html#h-9.3.1. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ I am again filtering and ignoring all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of the amount of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Problem with ol
David E. Ross wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: David E. Ross wrote: In any case, get rid of the /p, /li, /dd, and /dt tags. They are not needed. Their presence makes your page look like tag soup. I agree with the rest of what you wrote, except for the above. All elements should be closed, having an opening tag and a closing tag. If you don't, you would fail Strict validation. pThis is a paragraph./p From the W3C HTML 4.01 specification: 9.3.1 Paragraphs: the P element ... Start tag: required, End tag: optional See http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40/struct/text.html#h-9.3.1. Yes, I know what the spec says. But if you don't use closing tags in your coding, it's like trying to read a group of sentences without periods at the end. I did say should be closed, not must. Oh, and if you ever have thoughts about advancing to XHTML or HTML 5, you'll have to reinsert all those closing tags you took out. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
