Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-29 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/29/2018 9:49 AM, Ant wrote:
> On 7/28/2018 10:51 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 7/28/2018 4:54 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>
>>> SeaMonkey doesn't update anymore. The user has to download and install
>>> the whole new version over the old version.
>>>
>>> I'll bet your repo did the same.
>>>
>>
>> I updated to 2.49.4 for my Windows 7 by downloading
>>  seamonkey-2.49.3-2.49.4.partial.mar
>> from
>> 
>> and then using a script I created to incrementally update 2.49.3.  I
>> have been doing such incremental updates for several years but only for
>> third-digit changes.  This means smaller and quicker downloads and much
>> quicker updates.
> 
> So, you just download and run it? Is that how it works? Or do you need 
> that script to patch too?
> 

I need the script.  It is tailored to the fact that (1) I have SeaMonkey
installed in J:\SeaMonkey and not any C-partition folder and (2) Windows
7 insists there is a Windows meaning for the .mar extension.  That
tailoring can be easily modified for any location of SeaMonkey.

Since I log the changes to my PC when I install or update software --
including updates to Windows 7 -- my updates involve 9 steps.  I have a
list of those steps to make sure I do all of them in the correct
sequence.  That might seem like an effort, but it takes less than 5
minutes except for the final step: "Update configuration inventories."
(Because my career involved configuration management and control of
large software systems, I am obsessive about maintaining inventories of
what software and logs of software changes.)

As I have commented a number of times in this newsgroup, I use SeaMonkey
only as a browser.  For E-mail, RSS feeds, and newsgroups, I use
Thunderbird.  I have a similar script for updating Thunderbird from .mar
files.  My list of steps applies to both SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.

Note that for an update to a new primary or secondary version number
(e.g., from SeaMOnkey 2.48 directly to 2.49.1), I use a full installer,
not a .mar file and script.  Before such updates, I copy all my profiles
in case I need to revert to a prior version.  I still log the changes
and maintain my inventories.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-29 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

On 7/28/2018 10:51 PM, David E. Ross wrote:

On 7/28/2018 4:54 PM, WaltS48 wrote:


SeaMonkey doesn't update anymore. The user has to download and install
the whole new version over the old version.

I'll bet your repo did the same.



I updated to 2.49.4 for my Windows 7 by downloading
seamonkey-2.49.3-2.49.4.partial.mar
from

and then using a script I created to incrementally update 2.49.3.  I
have been doing such incremental updates for several years but only for
third-digit changes.  This means smaller and quicker downloads and much
quicker updates.


So, you just download and run it? Is that how it works? Or do you need 
that script to patch too?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-28 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/28/2018 4:54 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> 
> SeaMonkey doesn't update anymore. The user has to download and install 
> the whole new version over the old version.
> 
> I'll bet your repo did the same.
> 

I updated to 2.49.4 for my Windows 7 by downloading
seamonkey-2.49.3-2.49.4.partial.mar
from

and then using a script I created to incrementally update 2.49.3.  I
have been doing such incremental updates for several years but only for
third-digit changes.  This means smaller and quicker downloads and much
quicker updates.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-28 Thread WaltS48

On 7/28/18 7:15 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/27/18 9:15 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

On 07/27/2018 05:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.4!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.4, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

As with previous releases, updates are still not working.  With this
release out the door, I'm splitting up myself between getting the
updates working and getting the new infrastructure building.

Best Regards

:ewong


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.4
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/




Already in the Ubuntuzilla PPA!  Just got it a little while ago on my 
other PC.





Didn't have to wait. Just downloaded and installed the 64-bit 
contributor build.


Why do so many Linux users depend on some maintainer to build and 
upload an app to a repository, that they have to install so they can 
get the updated application.


Just use the one from the original source, Luke. ;)

Because it allows better control of when I install updates, at a time I 
want.  If I wanted applications that updated themselves willy-nilly I 
would've just stayed on Windows.





SeaMonkey doesn't update anymore. The user has to download and install 
the whole new version over the old version.


I'll bet your repo did the same.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-28 Thread Cruz, Jaime

WaltS48 wrote:

On 7/27/18 9:15 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

On 07/27/2018 05:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.4!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.4, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

As with previous releases, updates are still not working.  With this
release out the door, I'm splitting up myself between getting the
updates working and getting the new infrastructure building.

Best Regards

:ewong


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.4
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/




Already in the Ubuntuzilla PPA!  Just got it a little while ago on my 
other PC.





Didn't have to wait. Just downloaded and installed the 64-bit 
contributor build.


Why do so many Linux users depend on some maintainer to build and upload 
an app to a repository, that they have to install so they can get the 
updated application.


Just use the one from the original source, Luke. ;)

Because it allows better control of when I install updates, at a time I 
want.  If I wanted applications that updated themselves willy-nilly I 
would've just stayed on Windows.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-28 Thread NoOp
On 7/27/2018 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.49.4!
> 
> For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.4, see the What's
> New in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
> contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
> questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
> screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.
> 
> As with previous releases, updates are still not working.  With this
> release out the door, I'm splitting up myself between getting the
> updates working and getting the new infrastructure building.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> :ewong
> 
> 
> Links:
> [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.4
> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/
> 
> 

Thanks Edmund,

Will this ever be updated as well:

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/seamonkey/
[# Fixed in SeaMonkey 2.38 ]
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-28 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 28/07/2018 3:43 AM:

Daniel wrote:


It's probably just me, but, while in my Win7 WOW SeaMonkey, when I
 click to download the English-British Windows version (or Eng-US 
version), I get a little window asking if I want to Save or Cancel

 and, when I click on "Save", nothing happens ... well, I don't get
 asked where I want to save the file and the Download Manager
doesn't open to indicate a download is occurring. Even if I
manually open the Download Manager (Tools->Download Manager), there
is no action showing in the Download Manager.

Is it just me, or is there a problem with the Download Manager??


On my machine, it blinked and then said all files had downloaded. I 
checked my download directory, and sure enough, I had a 40 MB file.


I've never had any trouble with the Download Manager. If your
connection is as fast as mine, that may be it...

I could only hope, Paul!! Being connected via a 3G USB Dongle, I can 
usually expect a 40 MB D/L to take several minutes to complete.


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-28 Thread Yamo'
Hi,

Edmund Wong a écrit le 27/07/2018 à 11:13 :
> Greetings,
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.49.4!


Many thanks to the team!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-27 Thread Wolf

Edmund Wong schrieb:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.4!




Best Regards
:ewong

Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.4
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/



Thanks a lot, just updated from Ubuntuzilla PPA,
works like a charme.
Using Ubuntuzilla PPA for convenience.

Greetings
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-27 Thread WaltS48

On 7/27/18 9:15 PM, Cruz, Jaime wrote:

On 07/27/2018 05:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.4!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.4, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

As with previous releases, updates are still not working.  With this
release out the door, I'm splitting up myself between getting the
updates working and getting the new infrastructure building.

Best Regards

:ewong


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.4
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/




Already in the Ubuntuzilla PPA!  Just got it a little while ago on my 
other PC.





Didn't have to wait. Just downloaded and installed the 64-bit 
contributor build.


Why do so many Linux users depend on some maintainer to build and upload 
an app to a repository, that they have to install so they can get the 
updated application.


Just use the one from the original source, Luke. ;)

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-27 Thread Cruz, Jaime

On 07/27/2018 05:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.4!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.4, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

As with previous releases, updates are still not working.  With this
release out the door, I'm splitting up myself between getting the
updates working and getting the new infrastructure building.

Best Regards

:ewong


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.4
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/




Already in the Ubuntuzilla PPA!  Just got it a little while ago on my 
other PC.



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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-27 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Daniel wrote:

It's probably just me, but, while in my Win7 WOW SeaMonkey, when I click 
to download the English-British Windows version (or Eng-US version), I 
get a little window asking if I want to Save or Cancel and, when I click 
on "Save", nothing happens ... well, I don't get asked where I want to 
save the file and the Download Manager doesn't open to indicate a 
download is occurring. Even if I manually open the Download Manager 
(Tools->Download Manager), there is no action showing in the Download 
Manager.


Is it just me, or is there a problem with the Download Manager??


On my machine, it blinked and then said all files had downloaded. I 
checked my download directory, and sure enough, I had a 40 MB file.


I've never had any trouble with the Download Manager. If your connection 
is as fast as mine, that may be it...


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-27 Thread David E. Ross
On 7/27/2018 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:
> Greetings,
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.49.4!
> 
> For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.4, see the What's
> New in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
> contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
> questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
> screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.
> 
> As with previous releases, updates are still not working.  With this
> release out the door, I'm splitting up myself between getting the
> updates working and getting the new infrastructure building.
> 
> Best Regards
> 
> :ewong
> 
> 
> Links:
> [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.4
> [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/
> 
> 

I just now updated SeaMonkey in Windows 7 from 2.49.2 using the
seamonkey-2.49.3-2.49.4.partial.mar file.  I normally have "Advertise
Firefox compatibility" disabled.

When I first launched SeaMonkey 2.49.4, the UA string was
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/52.0
I enabled "Advertise Firefox compatibility" and then disabled it.  I now
get the correct (for me)
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.4
This correction persists when I terminate and then relaunch SeaMonkey.

I have posted this comment to warn others who also have "Advertise
Firefox compatibility" disabled.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-27 Thread Daniel

Edmund Wong wrote on 27/07/2018 7:13 PM:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of
SeaMonkey 2.49.4!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.4, see the
What's New in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 section of the Release Notes [2],
which also contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently
asked questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project
(and screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

As with previous releases, updates are still not working.  With this 
release out the door, I'm splitting up myself between getting the 
updates working and getting the new infrastructure building.


Best Regards

:ewong


Links: [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.4 [2] -
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/


It's probably just me, but, while in my Win7 WOW SeaMonkey, when I click 
to download the English-British Windows version (or Eng-US version), I 
get a little window asking if I want to Save or Cancel and, when I click 
on "Save", nothing happens ... well, I don't get asked where I want to 
save the file and the Download Manager doesn't open to indicate a 
download is occurring. Even if I manually open the Download Manager 
(Tools->Download Manager), there is no action showing in the Download 
Manager.


Is it just me, or is there a problem with the Download Manager??

When I look at my Win7 Internet Connection thingie, I can see that there 
is actually action occurring!!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.49.4 released

2018-07-27 Thread Ant via support-seamonkey

Yay. Thanks as usual. :)

On 7/27/2018 2:13 AM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.49.4!

For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.49.4, see the What's
New in SeaMonkey 2.49.4 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

As with previous releases, updates are still not working.  With this
release out the door, I'm splitting up myself between getting the
updates working and getting the new infrastructure building.

Best Regards

:ewong


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.49.4
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.49.4/-
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