Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Dirk Fieldhouse]

On 02/12/2020 07:42, Daniel wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 02/12/20 01:25:
...>

Makes me think the site's
code is what the Brits call a dog's breakfast.


;-)


For Deutsche Welle, a more appropriate term could be "Berlin Airport".

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Daniel]

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 02/12/20 01:25:

Daniel wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 30/11/20 07:56:

Daniel wrote:


Like I typed, on either OS once I click the "Stop" button, I can scroll
down the page!


Hmmm, I never get to the stop script dialog, just is unresponsive until
the crash reporter dialog appears




Mine sub-screen says 

Quote
Warning: Unresponsive script

A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding.
You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the
script continue.

Script: https://system.promio-connect.…1/default/assets/js/scripts.js:30
End Quote

Then has a tick-box for "Don't ask me again" (ticked) and three buttons
 "Debug script", "Stop script" and "Continue"

I think I usually click "Stop script"!


I can get that experience in Ubuntu nut not on this system with Windows
10. And it is not a resource-poor system, I7 16GB RAM SSD and GTX970.
Interesting though it seems the Stop Script indicates different scripts
as the problem. Mine was on pym.v1.min.js. Makes me think the site's
code is what the Brits call a dog's breakfast.


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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Jonathan N. Little]

Daniel wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote on 30/11/20 07:56:
>> Daniel wrote:
>>
>>> Like I typed, on either OS once I click the "Stop" button, I can scroll
>>> down the page!
>>
>> Hmmm, I never get to the stop script dialog, just is unresponsive until
>> the crash reporter dialog appears
>>
>> 
>>
> Mine sub-screen says 
> 
> Quote
> Warning: Unresponsive script
> 
> A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding.
> You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the
> script continue.
> 
> Script: https://system.promio-connect.…1/default/assets/js/scripts.js:30
> End Quote
> 
> Then has a tick-box for "Don't ask me again" (ticked) and three buttons
>  "Debug script", "Stop script" and "Continue"
> 
> I think I usually click "Stop script"!

I can get that experience in Ubuntu nut not on this system with Windows
10. And it is not a resource-poor system, I7 16GB RAM SSD and GTX970.
Interesting though it seems the Stop Script indicates different scripts
as the problem. Mine was on pym.v1.min.js. Makes me think the site's
code is what the Brits call a dog's breakfast.

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Daniel]

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 30/11/20 07:56:

Daniel wrote:


Like I typed, on either OS once I click the "Stop" button, I can scroll
down the page!


Hmmm, I never get to the stop script dialog, just is unresponsive until
the crash reporter dialog appears




Mine sub-screen says 

Quote
Warning: Unresponsive script

A script on this page may be busy, or it may have stopped responding. 
You can stop the script now, open the script in the debugger, or let the 
script continue.


Script: https://system.promio-connect.…1/default/assets/js/scripts.js:30
End Quote

Then has a tick-box for "Don't ask me again" (ticked) and three buttons 
 "Debug script", "Stop script" and "Continue"


I think I usually click "Stop script"!
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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Jonathan N. Little]

Daniel wrote:

> Like I typed, on either OS once I click the "Stop" button, I can scroll
> down the page!

Hmmm, I never get to the stop script dialog, just is unresponsive until
the crash reporter dialog appears




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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Daniel]

jcteyssier wrote on 29/11/20 20:33:

Daniel a écrit :

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 29/11/20 06:58:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:14:59 -0500, /Jonathan N. Little/:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

 



Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.


Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me
if I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine.
I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the
newer level does.


2.53.5.1, identical behaviour.  Stopping the Script works.


Same thing that I have witnessed, on Linux I get the JavaScript about
dialog, on Windows I SeaMonkey become unresponsive and then crashes to
the desktop.

I the former behavior I would expect to handle bad JavaScript, the
latter I would raise as an issue to be addressed.


Works for me on Windows 10 with 2.53.5.1 as others on Linux have
reported here.  Initially it hangs, then a "Slow Script" dialog pops up
allowing me to stop the script and continue.


Hmmm I wonder if it is a 64-bit 32-bit thing. I am still using 32-bit
never bothered switching and legacy since Netscape Communicator. On my
Ubuntu system I am using 64-bit and manages to should the "Slow Script"
dialog, whereas the 32-bit Windows install crashes before it appears.

On my Dual Booting 64 bit HP laptop, when I boot my 64 bit Linux and 
click the above link and just let it load, I eventually get the 
"Unresponsive Script" warning. Clicking the "Stop" button lets me 
continue scrolling.


On my 32 bit, Win7 WOW64 OS and I click the above link, and eventually 
get the warning, and again clicking the "Stop" button lets me continue 
scrolling.


So I don't see any difference!!
Win 10 64 bits FR; after long time waiting i obtain the same 
"Unresponsive Script " (in french of course) but clicking on "stop" does 
nothing (still running and the message still here: i have to kill 
seamonkey.


Like I typed, on either OS once I click the "Stop" button, I can scroll 
down the page!

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Daniel]

Nuno Silva wrote on 29/11/20 20:30:

On 2020-11-29, Daniel wrote:


Jonathan N. Little wrote on 29/11/20 06:58:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:




[...]

Hmmm I wonder if it is a 64-bit 32-bit thing. I am still using 32-bit
never bothered switching and legacy since Netscape Communicator. On my
Ubuntu system I am using 64-bit and manages to should the "Slow Script"
dialog, whereas the 32-bit Windows install crashes before it appears.


On my Dual Booting 64 bit HP laptop, when I boot my 64 bit Linux and
click the above link and just let it load, I eventually get the
"Unresponsive Script" warning. Clicking the "Stop" button lets me
continue scrolling.

On my 32 bit, Win7 WOW64 OS and I click the above link, and eventually
get the warning, and again clicking the "Stop" button lets me continue
scrolling.


This is as in your signature, a 32-bit build of 2.49.5?


Correct  and YES, I've yet to update either OS to SM 2.53.5.x
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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

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Daniel a écrit :

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 29/11/20 06:58:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:14:59 -0500, /Jonathan N. Little/:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

 



Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.


Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me
if I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine.
I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the
newer level does.


2.53.5.1, identical behaviour.  Stopping the Script works.


Same thing that I have witnessed, on Linux I get the JavaScript about
dialog, on Windows I SeaMonkey become unresponsive and then crashes to
the desktop.

I the former behavior I would expect to handle bad JavaScript, the
latter I would raise as an issue to be addressed.


Works for me on Windows 10 with 2.53.5.1 as others on Linux have
reported here.  Initially it hangs, then a "Slow Script" dialog pops up
allowing me to stop the script and continue.


Hmmm I wonder if it is a 64-bit 32-bit thing. I am still using 32-bit
never bothered switching and legacy since Netscape Communicator. On my
Ubuntu system I am using 64-bit and manages to should the "Slow Script"
dialog, whereas the 32-bit Windows install crashes before it appears.

On my Dual Booting 64 bit HP laptop, when I boot my 64 bit Linux and 
click the above link and just let it load, I eventually get the 
"Unresponsive Script" warning. Clicking the "Stop" button lets me 
continue scrolling.


On my 32 bit, Win7 WOW64 OS and I click the above link, and eventually 
get the warning, and again clicking the "Stop" button lets me continue 
scrolling.


So I don't see any difference!!
Win 10 64 bits FR; after long time waiting i obtain the same 
"Unresponsive Script " (in french of course) but clicking on "stop" does 
nothing (still running and the message still here: i have to kill seamonkey.

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Nuno Silva]

On 2020-11-29, Daniel wrote:

> Jonathan N. Little wrote on 29/11/20 06:58:
>>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>>
 
[...]
>> Hmmm I wonder if it is a 64-bit 32-bit thing. I am still using 32-bit
>> never bothered switching and legacy since Netscape Communicator. On my
>> Ubuntu system I am using 64-bit and manages to should the "Slow Script"
>> dialog, whereas the 32-bit Windows install crashes before it appears.
>>
> On my Dual Booting 64 bit HP laptop, when I boot my 64 bit Linux and
> click the above link and just let it load, I eventually get the
> "Unresponsive Script" warning. Clicking the "Stop" button lets me
> continue scrolling.
>
> On my 32 bit, Win7 WOW64 OS and I click the above link, and eventually
> get the warning, and again clicking the "Stop" button lets me continue
> scrolling.

This is as in your signature, a 32-bit build of 2.49.5?

>
> So I don't see any difference!!

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Daniel]

Jonathan N. Little wrote on 29/11/20 06:58:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:14:59 -0500, /Jonathan N. Little/:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:





Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.


Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me
if I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine.
I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the
newer level does.


2.53.5.1, identical behaviour.  Stopping the Script works.


Same thing that I have witnessed, on Linux I get the JavaScript about
dialog, on Windows I SeaMonkey become unresponsive and then crashes to
the desktop.

I the former behavior I would expect to handle bad JavaScript, the
latter I would raise as an issue to be addressed.


Works for me on Windows 10 with 2.53.5.1 as others on Linux have
reported here.  Initially it hangs, then a "Slow Script" dialog pops up
allowing me to stop the script and continue.


Hmmm I wonder if it is a 64-bit 32-bit thing. I am still using 32-bit
never bothered switching and legacy since Netscape Communicator. On my
Ubuntu system I am using 64-bit and manages to should the "Slow Script"
dialog, whereas the 32-bit Windows install crashes before it appears.

On my Dual Booting 64 bit HP laptop, when I boot my 64 bit Linux and 
click the above link and just let it load, I eventually get the 
"Unresponsive Script" warning. Clicking the "Stop" button lets me 
continue scrolling.


On my 32 bit, Win7 WOW64 OS and I click the above link, and eventually 
get the warning, and again clicking the "Stop" button lets me continue 
scrolling.


So I don't see any difference!!
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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[EE]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

This German site reliably and consistently hard crashes SeaMonkey



Tried in safe-mode but page crashes too suddenly to id the issue. This
is will Windows 10 2004. Try with Ubuntu 16.04 managed to get the
busy-script dialog and seemed to point to JavaScript standard JQuery
v3.4.1. A minimized library so difficult to debug.

I see there is another update to 2.53.5.1 so will see if that fixes it.


I just read that page and there was no problem with MacOS.
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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Jonathan N. Little]

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:
> Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:14:59 -0500, /Jonathan N. Little/:
>> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>>> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
 Gerry Hickman wrote:
> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>
>> 
>>
>
> Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.

 Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me
 if I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine.
 I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the
 newer level does.
>>>
>>> 2.53.5.1, identical behaviour.  Stopping the Script works.
>>
>> Same thing that I have witnessed, on Linux I get the JavaScript about
>> dialog, on Windows I SeaMonkey become unresponsive and then crashes to
>> the desktop.
>>
>> I the former behavior I would expect to handle bad JavaScript, the
>> latter I would raise as an issue to be addressed.
> 
> Works for me on Windows 10 with 2.53.5.1 as others on Linux have
> reported here.  Initially it hangs, then a "Slow Script" dialog pops up
> allowing me to stop the script and continue.
> 

Hmmm I wonder if it is a 64-bit 32-bit thing. I am still using 32-bit
never bothered switching and legacy since Netscape Communicator. On my
Ubuntu system I am using 64-bit and manages to should the "Slow Script"
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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Gerry Hickman via support-seamonkey]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
 

Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.


Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me if 
I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine.
I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the 
newer level does.


Maybe NoScript is blocking the bad script for me. It generally allows 
any script that's served from the same domain, but NOT a script from a 
different domain. Most bad scripts and ads come from different domains 
so NoScript tends to block them...



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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey]

Fri, 27 Nov 2020 15:14:59 -0500, /Jonathan N. Little/:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:





Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.


Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me 
if I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine. 
I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the 
newer level does.


2.53.5.1, identical behaviour.  Stopping the Script works.


Same thing that I have witnessed, on Linux I get the JavaScript about 
dialog, on Windows I SeaMonkey become unresponsive and then crashes to 
the desktop.


I the former behavior I would expect to handle bad JavaScript, the 
latter I would raise as an issue to be addressed.


Works for me on Windows 10 with 2.53.5.1 as others on Linux have 
reported here.  Initially it hangs, then a "Slow Script" dialog pops up 
allowing me to stop the script and continue.


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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Jonathan N. Little]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
> Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
>> Gerry Hickman wrote:
>>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 

>>>
>>> Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.
>>>
>> Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me
>> if I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine.
>> I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the
>> newer level does.
>>
> 2.53.5.1, identical behaviour.  Stopping the Script works.
> 

Same thing that I have witnessed, on Linux I get the JavaScript about
dialog, on Windows I SeaMonkey become unresponsive and then crashes to
the desktop.

I the former behavior I would expect to handle bad JavaScript, the
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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:

Gerry Hickman wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 



Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.

Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me if 
I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine.
I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the 
newer level does.



2.53.5.1, identical behaviour.  Stopping the Script works.

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

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Gerry Hickman wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 



Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.

Linux, 2.53.3, no add-ons: JavaScript loop, after a while it asks me if 
I should continue or abort the script.  Aborting it works fine.
I'll be updating my Seamonkey in a few minutes so we'll see what the 
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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

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Jonathan N. Little wrote:




Works straight away for me, using SM 2.53.3 on Linux with NoScript.

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

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On 11/27/20 10:05 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

This German site reliably and consistently hard crashes SeaMonkey



Tried in safe-mode but page crashes too suddenly to id the issue. This
is will Windows 10 2004. Try with Ubuntu 16.04 managed to get the
busy-script dialog and seemed to point to JavaScript standard JQuery
v3.4.1. A minimized library so difficult to debug.

I see there is another update to 2.53.5.1 so will see if that fixes it.



No difference with 2.53.5.1, but can confirm it is definitely JavaScript
crashing the browser.



No crash here using SM 2.53.5.1 on Ubuntu 18.04.

Did get a script is slowing down your browser message. Clicked the stop 
button and can navigate the page.


Did you mean hangs?

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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Jonathan N. Little]

WaltS48 wrote:
> On 11/27/20 10:05 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>> Jonathan N. Little wrote:
>>> This German site reliably and consistently hard crashes SeaMonkey
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
>>> Tried in safe-mode but page crashes too suddenly to id the issue. This
>>> is will Windows 10 2004. Try with Ubuntu 16.04 managed to get the
>>> busy-script dialog and seemed to point to JavaScript standard JQuery
>>> v3.4.1. A minimized library so difficult to debug.
>>>
>>> I see there is another update to 2.53.5.1 so will see if that fixes it.
>>>
>>
>> No difference with 2.53.5.1, but can confirm it is definitely JavaScript
>> crashing the browser.
>>
> 
> No crash here using SM 2.53.5.1 on Ubuntu 18.04.
> 
> Did get a script is slowing down your browser message. Clicked the stop
> button and can navigate the page.

Same with Ubuntu 16.04. In Windows 10 hangs immediately so you cannot
hit stop, then crashes to the Desktop.

> 
> Did you mean hangs?
> 




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Re: Website appears to crash 2.53.5

[Jonathan N. Little]

Jonathan N. Little wrote:
> This German site reliably and consistently hard crashes SeaMonkey
> 
> 
> 
> Tried in safe-mode but page crashes too suddenly to id the issue. This
> is will Windows 10 2004. Try with Ubuntu 16.04 managed to get the
> busy-script dialog and seemed to point to JavaScript standard JQuery
> v3.4.1. A minimized library so difficult to debug.
> 
> I see there is another update to 2.53.5.1 so will see if that fixes it.
> 

No difference with 2.53.5.1, but can confirm it is definitely JavaScript
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