Re: Windows 8.1 installation question
On 31/12/14 09:34, Dick Hoffman wrote: We are slowly moving off an XP system to a new computer under Win 8.1. I've installed SeaMonkey 2.30 and used Mozbackup to copy the profile from the XP system to the 8.1 system. On the XP system, my wife and I share a single SeaMonkey profile and share an email account. On the Win 8.1 system the profile was placed under my account as C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla...)and when my wife signed on it built a new profile for her in her account as C:\Users\Jean\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla Is there a way to set up a profile folder in a common area somewhere so that we have one shared profile as we did under XP? If so where and how do I do it? Dick, I would tend to say Yes, but how you would go about it ... I don't know! On this computer, I dual boot Win7 and Mageia Linux and use the one profile, located on my Win E:\, for both OS's. I have very little knowledge of Win8, so am guessing. Is it possible for you to see and locations in your wife's system, maybe you can set Win8 up to have a common location that you both can see, and then do custom instillations of SM so it access the common profile in this common location. Apart from this, I have no idea. -- Daniel Seasons Greeting to One and All!! User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225909 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.32 Build identifier: 20141218225525 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8.1 installation question
Dick Hoffman wrote: We are slowly moving off an XP system to a new computer under Win 8.1. I've installed SeaMonkey 2.30 and used Mozbackup to copy the profile from the XP system to the 8.1 system. On the XP system, my wife and I share a single SeaMonkey profile and share an email account. On the Win 8.1 system the profile was placed under my account as C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla...)and when my wife signed on it built a new profile for her in her account as C:\Users\Jean\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla Is there a way to set up a profile folder in a common area somewhere so that we have one shared profile as we did under XP? If so where and how do I do it? Two thoughts: 1) Does Win8 offer you the option of installing for All Users rather than for a particular user? You probably need to be an administrator... 2) Having installed in the two user directories, can you set one of the installations to point to the other profile? -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8.1 installation question
Daniel wrote: On 31/12/14 09:34, Dick Hoffman wrote: We are slowly moving off an XP system to a new computer under Win 8.1. I've installed SeaMonkey 2.30 and used Mozbackup to copy the profile from the XP system to the 8.1 system. On the XP system, my wife and I share a single SeaMonkey profile and share an email account. On the Win 8.1 system the profile was placed under my account as C:\Users\Dick\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla...)and when my wife signed on it built a new profile for her in her account as C:\Users\Jean\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla Is there a way to set up a profile folder in a common area somewhere so that we have one shared profile as we did under XP? If so where and how do I do it? Dick, I would tend to say Yes, but how you would go about it ... I don't know! On this computer, I dual boot Win7 and Mageia Linux and use the one profile, located on my Win E:\, for both OS's. I have very little knowledge of Win8, so am guessing. Is it possible for you to see and locations in your wife's system, maybe you can set Win8 up to have a common location that you both can see, and then do custom instillations of SM so it access the common profile in this common location. Apart from this, I have no idea. It can be done but it is a very bad idea, because you can really screw things up if you switch profiles while the former profile still has SeaMonkey running. A far better idea to share an email account with more than one user is to use IMAP and then different profiles would have access via a server to the same mail. But if you insist. Copy the WinXP profile folder [SOME_SALT].default to some commonly shared location on Win8.1. For this example I will choose C:\Users\Public\SeaMonkey The path to the profile will not be: C:\Users\Public\SeaMonkey\[SOME_SALT].default Then in each profile goto: %APPDATA%\Mozilla\SeaMonkey Edit the profile.ini [General] StartWithLastProfile=1 [Profile0] Name=default ; Change IsRelative for 1 to 0 IsRelative=0 ; comment out the existing NEW profile ; Path=Profiles/[WIN8.1_SALT].default ; and add absolute path to profile in Public Path=\Users\Public\SeaMonkey\[SOME_SALT].default Do this for both profiles with the same info. Of course you need to replace [SOME_SALT] with whatever your WinXP profile salt was. When you are in either profile will will be using the *same* profile folder. So this really is a bad idea. List of caveats * profile location must be writable from both profiles * you must fully logout from one profile before logging if from the other * it still might get foobared despite above precautions. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8.1 installation question
Jonathan N. Little wrote: It can be done but it is a very bad idea, because you can really screw things up if you switch profiles while the former profile still has SeaMonkey running. A far better idea to share an email account with more than one user is to use IMAP and then different profiles would have access via a server to the same mail. Firefox and Thunderbird have the same issues. It's really not a good idea to try to share a profile. Even if you've done it safely up until now, it's still a disaster waiting to happen. There's several better work-arounds: 1) Working from a common Windows user ID, as suggested elsewhere in this discussion; 2) If the server supports it, using IMAP, and where all your mail is stored on the server (and mirrored locally if desired). 3) I haven't played with it, but the Mozilla Sync tool might be usable. 4) If you're determined to stay with POP, there are ways of having multiple users share the same mailbox, although it takes some tinkering to do that. Primarily, that's a matter of adjusting mail retention settings (e.g., setting mail to not be deleted from the server immediately after download, typically for something like 15 or 30 days). When I've done this in the past, I find it also useful to add BCC: to myself, so that each profile access has copies of sent messages copied to the inbox. Plus, for the purposes of long-term storage, it generally helps if you designate one profile or the other as the Primary profile, and the other(s) as Secondary. That's not an official designation, just something you determine yourself. One additional twist -- for me, since I have several mail accounts, and I do the majority of my work from a specific profile on a specific machine, I do prefer POP, and I consider that to be my primary. However, I do mail access from a number extra points, including Thunderbird on my primary working machine, and Seamonkey, Thunderbird or web mail on other machines. In those other profiles, I use IMAP (because the servers support that), and in each instance, I tweak the client so that copies of sent mail are saved not to the Sent Mail folder, but to the Inbox. Additionally, on my primary POP client, I set retention for 15 days. With that setup, I have read access to virtually anything current, no matter which machine or client I'm using, and anything that I write on a secondary client will always be the inbox, where the primary POP client will download (and I can subsequently file in my archives). However, if you're in the process of moving to a new computer, now is a really good time to get away from trying to share a profile. Just because it's technically possible (and that you've done it in the past), doesn't mean that you should continue doing it. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Windows 8.1 installation question
On 12/30/2014 5:34 PM, Dick Hoffman wrote: Thanks for all the replies to my query. I'm now mulling things over and am questioning why we need two accounts in Win8.1; setting up just one account that we share will satisfy Win8's requirement for an account but result in the more-or-less equivalent of what we have on the XP system. This may not be the most elegant solution but sounds like the easiest. (BTW, we are having similar issues with other software products that have profile-like components separate from their program folders, such as Open Office.) Dick ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
