Re: SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

2015-02-02 Thread Larry S.

WaltS48 wrote:

On 01/31/2015 06:12 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me),
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem
affects me.

I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this
group over recent weeks:
 1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.
 2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill
either one where needed.
 3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.
 4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.
 5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a
second page.

So, how exactly does autofill work in 2.32? One of the above, or
something else entirely?

Yes, I know about the problem extension to save passwords. Yes, various
sites use "username" or "login" or other terms; all refer to the first
entry upon logging in.

Thank you for any insights or advice you might give me.

Larry S.
(Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1)



I am still on SeaMonkey 2.31, and it isn't my default browser so I don't
have many usernames or passwords saved.

I went to the mozillaZine site. Entered my username and password,
clicked the Login button and was presented with this warning.

http://imgur.com/SGz9nUa

Clicking continue in that warning logged me in, but I wasn't asked to
save the information. Proving #1 for that site.

I went to my other news servers web site which I have a L/I and P/W
saved in SeaMonkey. It did not autofill the password when I entered the
user name. I was asked if I wanted to save this information, which I did.

That disproves #1 and confirms #2

Removed the old Password Manager entry, restarted SeaMonkey, went to the
site, clicked the User login link and the data was autofilled.

Confirming #4 for that site.


My Verizon login works.

Disproving #5 for that site.

I'm done testing. It is all too confusing for me.

Switch to Firefox and install the Secure Login extension.

Thank you for your reply, and for your research. I, too, find all this 
confusing, which is why I asked the question in the first place. Your 
answer clears up a lot.


Thanks again.

Larry S.
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Re: SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

2015-02-02 Thread Larry S.

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me),
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem
affects me.

I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this
group over recent weeks:
 1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.


Well I know that is not true. Just set one with 2.32


 2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill
either one where needed.


Dito not so, WFM. If you have more than one userid/password saved for
the same domain you will need to start typing the userid for the correct
password to be autofilled.



 3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.


Not what I see.


 4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.


Yes.


 5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a
second page.


Maybe so, sounds like and extended login used by financial websites. If,
so you'd be crazy to autofill logins to anything connected to your money
IMO. It is the one area you should never, ever, auto login. Use a good
*unique* password for each and always manually enter your credentials.





(Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1)

  ^^
Missing out on security patches here...

Thank you for your detailed and specific reply. That is very helpful, 
and encourages me to go ahead and update.


Yes, I know there are needed security patches which is why I'm trying to 
sort out the issues and update.


Thanks again.

Larry S.
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Re: SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

2015-01-31 Thread WaltS48

On 01/31/2015 06:12 PM, Larry S. wrote:

I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me),
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem
affects me.

I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this
group over recent weeks:
 1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.
 2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill
either one where needed.
 3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.
 4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.
 5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a
second page.

So, how exactly does autofill work in 2.32? One of the above, or
something else entirely?

Yes, I know about the problem extension to save passwords. Yes, various
sites use "username" or "login" or other terms; all refer to the first
entry upon logging in.

Thank you for any insights or advice you might give me.

Larry S.
(Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1)



I am still on SeaMonkey 2.31, and it isn't my default browser so I don't have 
many usernames or passwords saved.

I went to the mozillaZine site. Entered my username and password, clicked the 
Login button and was presented with this warning.

http://imgur.com/SGz9nUa

Clicking continue in that warning logged me in, but I wasn't asked to save the 
information. Proving #1 for that site.

I went to my other news servers web site which I have a L/I and P/W saved in 
SeaMonkey. It did not autofill the password when I entered the user name. I was 
asked if I wanted to save this information, which I did.

That disproves #1 and confirms #2

Removed the old Password Manager entry, restarted SeaMonkey, went to the site, 
clicked the User login link and the data was autofilled.

Confirming #4 for that site.


My Verizon login works.

Disproving #5 for that site.

I'm done testing. It is all too confusing for me.

Switch to Firefox and install the Secure Login extension.

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Re: SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

2015-01-31 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Larry S. wrote:

I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me),
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem
affects me.

I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this
group over recent weeks:
 1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.


Well I know that is not true. Just set one with 2.32


 2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill
either one where needed.


Dito not so, WFM. If you have more than one userid/password saved for 
the same domain you will need to start typing the userid for the correct 
password to be autofilled.




 3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.


Not what I see.


 4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.


Yes.


 5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a
second page.


Maybe so, sounds like and extended login used by financial websites. If, 
so you'd be crazy to autofill logins to anything connected to your money 
IMO. It is the one area you should never, ever, auto login. Use a good 
*unique* password for each and always manually enter your credentials.






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Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1)

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Missing out on security patches here...

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SM 2.32 Password Autofill--The Facts?

2015-01-31 Thread Larry S.
I've been sticking with 2.26.1 until this sorts out (a biggie for me), 
but I'm coming to realize that I don't even really know if the problem 
affects me.


I see several different descriptions of the "problem" as I read this 
group over recent weeks:

1. SM won't save *new* logins (L/I) or passwords(P/W) at all.
	2. When L/I or P/W are saved in Password Manger SM won't autofill 
either one where needed.

3. SM will fill the L/I but not the P/W.
4. SM will fill both if in the Password Manager.
	5. SM will fill both if on the same page, but not the P/W if on a 
second page.


So, how exactly does autofill work in 2.32? One of the above, or 
something else entirely?


Yes, I know about the problem extension to save passwords. Yes, various 
sites use "username" or "login" or other terms; all refer to the first 
entry upon logging in.


Thank you for any insights or advice you might give me.

Larry S.
(Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1)

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